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| First post | 2026-08-18 01:44 -0400 |
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What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-18 01:44 -0400
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-18 01:59 -0400
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-18 06:05 +0000
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? vallor <vallor@vallor.earth> - 2026-08-18 08:10 +0000
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-08-18 11:33 +0100
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-18 22:16 -0400
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-19 03:32 +0000
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-19 14:05 +0100
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-08-19 13:23 +0000
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-19 14:10 +0000
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-19 15:15 +0100
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-19 21:53 +0000
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-08-19 22:54 +0000
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? Anton Antimo <anton@safunu.org> - 2026-08-20 10:31 -0300
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-21 13:10 +0100
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? Anton Antimo <anton@safunu.org> - 2026-08-20 10:30 -0300
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-08-20 18:04 +0000
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-19 14:01 +0000
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-19 15:24 +0100
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-19 22:07 +0000
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-08-22 04:02 +0000
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-22 06:48 +0000
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-08-22 16:15 +0000
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? vallor <vallor@vallor.earth> - 2026-08-23 21:52 +0000
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-24 01:07 +0000
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-24 11:15 +0100
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-24 19:26 +0000
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-25 11:45 +0100
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-25 18:39 +0000
Power lines Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> - 2026-08-25 06:48 -0700
Re: Power lines The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-25 15:10 +0100
Re: Power lines Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> - 2026-08-26 18:04 -0700
Re: Power lines c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-27 03:23 -0400
Re: Power lines The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-27 12:09 +0100
Re: Power lines c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-27 22:15 -0400
Re: Power lines rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-28 03:21 +0000
Re: Power lines c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-28 02:42 -0400
Re: Power lines The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-28 13:15 +0100
Re: Power lines rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-28 18:40 +0000
Re: Power lines The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-28 13:09 +0100
Re: Power lines The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-28 13:06 +0100
Re: Power lines rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-27 14:19 +0000
Re: Power lines The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-27 15:25 +0100
Re: Power lines c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-27 22:24 -0400
Re: Power lines The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-28 13:18 +0100
Re: Power lines Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> - 2026-08-28 05:56 -0700
Re: Power lines The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-28 15:33 +0100
Re: Power lines Robert Riches <spamtrap42@jacob21819.net> - 2026-08-28 16:06 +0000
Re: Power lines rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-28 18:51 +0000
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-25 01:46 -0400
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-25 11:50 +0100
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-25 18:43 +0000
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-26 04:07 -0400
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? Enoch Powell <e.powell@tutanatu.kom> - 2026-08-27 10:54 -0600
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-27 19:11 +0100
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? Enoch Powell <e.powell@tutanatu.kom> - 2026-08-27 12:57 -0600
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-28 12:55 +0100
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-28 18:25 +0000
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-28 00:27 +0100
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-28 00:45 -0400
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-28 13:02 +0100
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? Robert Riches <spamtrap42@jacob21819.net> - 2026-08-28 16:13 +0000
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-27 22:55 -0400
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-25 23:34 -0400
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? Robert Riches <spamtrap42@jacob21819.net> - 2026-08-26 04:27 +0000
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-26 08:57 +0100
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> - 2026-08-27 06:30 -0700
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-27 13:57 +0000
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-27 22:22 -0400
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-28 13:16 +0100
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-28 18:36 +0000
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-08-28 19:42 +0100
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-08-27 16:32 +0100
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-27 22:44 -0400
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-08-19 12:57 +0000
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-19 14:03 +0100
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-19 22:24 -0400
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-18 22:07 -0400
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-19 03:42 +0000
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-19 02:14 -0400
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-19 14:13 +0100
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-19 14:14 +0000
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-19 15:27 +0100
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-08-19 16:57 +0000
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-19 14:02 +0100
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-19 13:54 +0000
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-19 22:21 -0400
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| From | The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-08-28 13:02 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <116rtcq$28guo$15@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #90701 |
On 28/08/2026 00:27, Nuno Silva wrote: > On 2026-08-27, The Natural Philosopher wrote: > >> On 27/08/2026 17:54, Enoch Powell wrote: >>> Some amazing video of the flooding in Nepal and Tibet from what >>> "experts" believe is a collapsed glacier: >>> >>> https://www.dailymail.com/news/article-16083765/New-footage-nepal-tibet-floods-destruction-damage.html >> >> Its all over you tube. >> Horrendous. >> Yes, the consensus is a chunk of ice water rocks and sediment fell >> into the valley causing a 6,4 level 'earthquake' and that overwhelmed >> a series of dams and the water behind them. >> >> Dam failure - these were hydro dams - is massively dangerous. >> And yet people prefer it to nuclear power stations... > > If anything dams may have softened the impact for a while, and even if a > short while that'd probably still be immensely valuable. > No. Each dam held a volume of water that was released once the event came, and the dams failed, *adding* to the chaos downstream The greatest loss of life from an energy related accident was the failure of the 1975 Banqiao Dam ... ..Around 1:30 a.m. on August 8, 1975, water overtopped the earthen structure, causing rapid and catastrophic erosion. A wall of water roughly 10 kilometers wide and 5 meters high rushed out at speeds up to 50 km/h. The initial surge caused a domino effect, leading to the catastrophic collapse of 61 total downstream dams in the Zhumadian area, including the Shimantan Dam Death Toll: Estimates range from roughly 26,000 immediate drowning deaths up to a total of 150,000–240,000 overall casualties when accounting for subsequent disease (cholera, typhoid) and widespread famine. Over 10 million people were displaced. The disaster was kept as a state secret in China for roughly 30 years before public acknowledgment and eventual reconstruction of a new dam on the site by 1993 > Other than that, if it's beyond dam capacity, there'd be a flood, dam or > no dam... The problem is similar to what brought the twin towers down. Progressive collapse,. The shock of all the water rocks and ice hitting each dam *broke* that dam. And added more water for the next dam... > -- "I guess a rattlesnake ain't risponsible fer bein' a rattlesnake, but ah puts mah heel on um jess the same if'n I catches him around mah chillun".
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| From | Robert Riches <spamtrap42@jacob21819.net> |
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| Date | 2026-08-28 16:13 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <slrn1193cst.gd.spamtrap42@one.localnet> |
| In reply to | #90752 |
On 2026-08-28, The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote: > On 28/08/2026 00:27, Nuno Silva wrote: >> On 2026-08-27, The Natural Philosopher wrote: >> >>> On 27/08/2026 17:54, Enoch Powell wrote: >>>> Some amazing video of the flooding in Nepal and Tibet from what >>>> "experts" believe is a collapsed glacier: >>>> >>>> https://www.dailymail.com/news/article-16083765/New-footage-nepal-tibet-floods-destruction-damage.html >>> >>> Its all over you tube. >>> Horrendous. >>> Yes, the consensus is a chunk of ice water rocks and sediment fell >>> into the valley causing a 6,4 level 'earthquake' and that overwhelmed >>> a series of dams and the water behind them. >>> >>> Dam failure - these were hydro dams - is massively dangerous. >>> And yet people prefer it to nuclear power stations... >> >> If anything dams may have softened the impact for a while, and even if a >> short while that'd probably still be immensely valuable. >> > No. Each dam held a volume of water that was released once the event > came, and the dams failed, *adding* to the chaos downstream > > The greatest loss of life from an energy related accident was the > failure of the 1975 Banqiao Dam ... > > ..Around 1:30 a.m. on August 8, 1975, water overtopped the earthen > structure, causing rapid and catastrophic erosion. > > A wall of water roughly 10 kilometers wide and 5 meters high rushed > out at speeds up to 50 km/h. > > The initial surge caused a domino effect, leading to the catastrophic > collapse of 61 total downstream dams in the Zhumadian area, including > the Shimantan Dam > > Death Toll: Estimates range from roughly 26,000 immediate drowning > deaths up to a total of 150,000–240,000 overall casualties when > accounting for subsequent disease (cholera, typhoid) and widespread famine. > > Over 10 million people were displaced. > > The disaster was kept as a state secret in China for roughly 30 years > before public acknowledgment and eventual reconstruction of a new dam on > the site by 1993 > > >> Other than that, if it's beyond dam capacity, there'd be a flood, dam or >> no dam... > > The problem is similar to what brought the twin towers down. Progressive > collapse,. The shock of all the water rocks and ice hitting each dam > *broke* that dam. And added more water for the next dam... Under the right (or wrong) conditions and in a much smaller scale, that can happen in nature with a series of beaver dams in a canyon. I have seen a road washout from that type of event. I was told by competent sources that there were rock gouges on tree trunks, IIRC, 8-16 feet up. -- Robert Riches spamtrap42@jacob21819.net (Yes, that is one of my email addresses.)
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| From | c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> |
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| Date | 2026-08-27 22:55 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <zX6dnaaqj-cPZQ33nZ2dnZfqn_SdnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #90688 |
On 8/27/26 12:54, Enoch Powell wrote: > On 8/26/2026 2:07 AM, c186282 wrote: >> On 8/25/26 14:43, rbowman wrote: >>> On Tue, 25 Aug 2026 11:50:08 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote: >>> >>>> On 25/08/2026 06:46, c186282 wrote: >>>>> Face it, the USA is barely set to deal with major >>>>> environmental disasters better than yer average 3rd-world >>>>> shithole. >>>>> Recent EU news suggests that NOBODY is. Shredded housing, shredded >>>>> power distribution, shredded comms ... yer ON YER OWN ! The >>>>> proverbial "safety net" is 90+ percent ILLUSION. >>>> >>>> Cost benefit says you don't prepare for 1000 year events, you just pay >>>> insurance. >>> >>> One year in the '90s Arizona found out what '100 year flood plain' >>> means. >>> Not a good idea to build in Rio Salada even though it hasn't been a >>> rio in >>> recent memory. >> >> Yea, "100 Year" even "1000 Year" don't really >> MEAN much. >> >> So, like it or not, gotta be ready for the >> "1000-year" EVERY year. > > Some amazing video of the flooding in Nepal and Tibet from what > "experts" believe is a collapsed glacier: > > https://www.dailymail.com/news/article-16083765/New-footage-nepal-tibet- > floods-destruction-damage.html THAT was impressive ! Steep hills and what looked to be a 30+ foot high gigantic flush coming down the river bed. China has warned that debris have created a NEW 'dam' that will likely fall apart suddenly and send a similar flush downhill. In any case, those "100-year" or even "1000-year" events were mostly based on data not nearly so old. Guesses. Too optimistic. Insurers and disaster orgs adopted those 'truths' in the 50s/60s. More recent works shows that regional climate shifts all the time, sort of 'cyclic'. There IS NO 'normal' except as a sort of statistical hallucination. Any ONE year can fuck you over really bad. And, with realization of that truth, it's why far more and more every year can't GET/afford any kind of property insurance. This is a serious PROBLEM.
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| From | c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> |
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| Date | 2026-08-25 23:34 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <ZfqcnXRt_dS0whP3nZ2dnZfqnPWdnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #90513 |
On 8/25/26 06:50, The Natural Philosopher wrote: > On 25/08/2026 06:46, c186282 wrote: >> Face it, the USA is barely set to deal with major >> environmental disasters better than yer average >> 3rd-world shithole. Recent EU news suggests that >> NOBODY is. Shredded housing, shredded power >> distribution, shredded comms ... yer ON YER OWN ! >> The proverbial "safety net" is 90+ percent ILLUSION. > > Cost benefit says you don't prepare for 1000 year events, you just pay > insurance. Insurance company lobbyists OBVIOUSLY behind that tact ! :-) Came across an article about a year ago - seems the mayor of Palm Beach Florida - a RICH area - had to drop his property/windstorm insurance because the price had gotten entirely out of hand. His salary would have been well into six figures fer-sure, but ...... Finally, "1000-year Events" seem to be "EVERY-year events" of late ..... note a repeat of last years deadly/destructive floods in Texas. On the plus the el-Nino ought to suppress Atlantic/Gulf hurricanes for a few years. > Weather is very weird this year. Big El Niño. Only two named Atlantic > storms so far. > > Expect the unexpected. Flash Floods in Utah,and forest fires apparently. > > Stock up on cans of pork and beans and fresh water Cans of P&B aren't a bad choice - except I have to keep a low-carb diet. Canned tuna will keep for a LONG time too. Corned beef also. For carb freaks you have plenty of choices - plain old bags of rice and wheat flour and dried beans. Just as the Covid thing was starting I scored kind of the last boxes of dehydrated food and decent MREs. Still have 'em, surely still "edible", Just In Case. MREs remain 'edible' for a long time, but the flavor gets kinda stale after a few years. Still better than the neighbors cat I suspect :-) Oh, avoid armadillo ... recent news sez they're loaded with leprosy. Lots of human xfer cases this year. There's something about the citters body temperature that makes them ideal incubators. Also probs with prion diseases in some herds of deer and moose - NO cure for those - not even sure super-well-done will destroy those mutant proteins. Actually, the whole food-supply chain, commercial and natural, seems kinda FUCKED the past five years. Never seen so many "urgent recall / Sure Death" warnings. The CryptoSHIT disease is the least of it. Fish may still be ok, but you kinda have to live on the ocean to take full advantage. Other odd bit this year - most of the horrible food diseases seem to be in VEGGIES, not meat. So much that I'm beginning to suspect something deliberate.
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| From | Robert Riches <spamtrap42@jacob21819.net> |
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| Date | 2026-08-26 04:27 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <slrn118sqp3.k54.spamtrap42@one.localnet> |
| In reply to | #90583 |
On 2026-08-26, c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> wrote: > > Cans of P&B aren't a bad choice - except I have to > keep a low-carb diet. Canned tuna will keep for > a LONG time too. Corned beef also. For carb freaks > you have plenty of choices - plain old bags of > rice and wheat flour and dried beans. If I'm informed correctly: - wheat flour degrades rather quickly; - unground wheat berries/kernels will last for many years if stored in airtight containers with the oxygen removed by dry ice or manufactured oxygen eliminator packets; - wheat has much more protein and other nutrients than (at least white) rice. Plain wheat kernels can be boiled to make a very nice grown-up cereal. My wife likes milk, honey, cinnamon, and/or butter on hers. I prefer plain milk on mine. If no milk is available, that's okay, too. The recipe can be adjusted for the size of batch being boiled, but the general idea is to combine 3 parts water for 1 part wheat kernels, bring to a boil, turn down the heat and let slow boil or simmer for ~45 minutes, then turn off the heat and let it continue to self-cook for 3-8 hours. A larger pan will hold heat longer, while a smaller pan will cool down more quickly, so cook times can be adjusted to get the preferred consistency. In my experience, boiled wheat can be left at room temperature for up to 24 hours before refrigerating it, but it starts to taste sour after a few days in the fridge if left at room temperature longer than about 24 hours before going in the fridge. If boiling is not possible, wheat can be eaten by putting some kernels in the mouth for a few minutes to let them soften enough for chewing. -- Robert Riches spamtrap42@jacob21819.net (Yes, that is one of my email addresses.)
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| From | The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-08-26 08:57 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <116m68d$e9qm$4@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #90583 |
On 26/08/2026 04:34, c186282 wrote: > Finally, "1000-year Events" seem to be "EVERY-year > events" of late ..... note a repeat of last years > deadly/destructive floods in Texas. On the plus > the el-Nino ought to suppress Atlantic/Gulf > hurricanes for a few years. Well yes, any random event in a year of sufficiently unique character from a set of a thousand is going to be a 'thousand year event' -- For in reason, all government without the consent of the governed is the very definition of slavery. Jonathan Swift
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| From | Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> |
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| Date | 2026-08-27 06:30 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <116pe5r$1glhn$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #90583 |
On 2026-08-25 20:34, c186282 wrote: > Actually, the whole food-supply chain, commercial > and natural, seems kinda FUCKED the past five years. > Never seen so many "urgent recall / Sure Death" > warnings. The CryptoSHIT disease is the least of it. > Fish may still be ok, but you kinda have to live on > the ocean to take full advantage. > > Other odd bit this year - most of the horrible food > diseases seem to be in VEGGIES, not meat. So much > that I'm beginning to suspect something deliberate. Many of the outbreaks of food-borne illnesses over the years seem to be connected to things being processed too early in the supply chain. Who ever thought it would be a good idea for chain restaurants to bring in lettuce shredded at a plant in Mexico and distribute it across half the United States? Rather than to cut up a head of lettuce in the kitchen? I can see pre-shredded lettuce making a little bit of sense in a small family or a single person's kitchen, but in a restaurant? Likewise in years past, burger chains had large outbreaks of E. Coli linked to ground beef being shipped all over. In my old country, ground meats sold in retail stores had to be ground on the store premises and sold within 24 hours. -- Lars Poulsen - an old geek in Santa Barbara, California
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2026-08-27 13:57 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <nfau1pFprcuU19@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #90681 |
On Thu, 27 Aug 2026 06:30:32 -0700, Lars Poulsen wrote: > Likewise in years past, burger chains had large outbreaks of E. Coli > linked to ground beef being shipped all over. In my old country, ground > meats sold in retail stores had to be ground on the store premises and > sold within 24 hours. I can remember when meat was ground on demand from identifiable pieces of meat. A pound of 'ground round' was a bit different from today's super lean product that is only 15% fat. I draw the line at the 'chubs'.
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| From | c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> |
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| Date | 2026-08-27 22:22 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <zX6dnaWqj-d1bQ33nZ2dnZfqn_SdnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #90681 |
On 8/27/26 09:30, Lars Poulsen wrote: > On 2026-08-25 20:34, c186282 wrote: >> Actually, the whole food-supply chain, commercial >> and natural, seems kinda FUCKED the past five years. >> Never seen so many "urgent recall / Sure Death" >> warnings. The CryptoSHIT disease is the least of it. >> Fish may still be ok, but you kinda have to live on >> the ocean to take full advantage. >> >> Other odd bit this year - most of the horrible food >> diseases seem to be in VEGGIES, not meat. So much >> that I'm beginning to suspect something deliberate. > > Many of the outbreaks of food-borne illnesses over the years seem to be > connected to things being processed too early in the supply chain. Who > ever thought it would be a good idea for chain restaurants to bring in > lettuce shredded at a plant in Mexico and distribute it across half the > United States? Rather than to cut up a head of lettuce in the kitchen? > I can see pre-shredded lettuce making a little bit of sense in a small > family or a single person's kitchen, but in a restaurant? Well ... 'convenience'. > Likewise in years past, burger chains had large outbreaks of E. Coli > linked to ground beef being shipped all over. In my old country, ground > meats sold in retail stores had to be ground on the store premises and > sold within 24 hours. Ground meats did have a rather bad rep. The odd bit is THIS year the reports are almost ALL veggies. Salmonella in frozen blueberries. Eh ?
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| From | The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-08-28 13:16 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <116ru75$28guo$19@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #90713 |
On 28/08/2026 03:22, c186282 wrote: > Salmonella in frozen blueberries. Eh ? Eggs reared under EU rather than UK rules -- "What do you think about Gay Marriage?" "I don't." "Don't what?" "Think about Gay Marriage."
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2026-08-28 18:36 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <nfe2pgFprcuU38@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #90756 |
On Fri, 28 Aug 2026 13:16:37 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote: > On 28/08/2026 03:22, c186282 wrote: >> Salmonella in frozen blueberries. Eh ? > > Eggs reared under EU rather than UK rules https://www.rt.com/news/644756-uk-eggs-salmonella-ukraine/ The original Telegraph article requires a login so I can't verify. It seems odd since I've read other articles that say the Ukraine is virtually chicken free. https://www.foodagribusiness.world/poultry/russia-destroys-ukraines- poultry-industry I don't eat much chicken but I did grill up some chicken thighs last night. I made sure they were well done.
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| From | Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> |
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| Date | 2026-08-28 19:42 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <nfe30tFm51qU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #90774 |
rbowman wrote: > The original Telegraph article requires a login so I can't verify. It > seems odd since I've read other articles that say the Ukraine is virtually > chicken free. It didn't paywall me, but usually disabling javascript is all that's needed for the Telegraph <https://www.telegraph.co.uk/global-health/science-and-disease/great-british-fry-up-implicated-in-salmonella-outbreak/>
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| From | Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> |
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| Date | 2026-08-27 16:32 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <nfb3gqF7jarU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #90487 |
c186282 wrote: > GoogleEarth showed large quantities of "blue tarp" roofs there for > YEARS 🙂 > > BUT, Laura Bush DID show up to distribute water bottles and MREs ! I though that was Waffle House's job?
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| From | c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> |
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| Date | 2026-08-27 22:44 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <wxednY4-Uqqhaw33nZ2dnZfqnPqdnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #90687 |
On 8/27/26 11:32, Andy Burns wrote: > > c186282 wrote: > >> GoogleEarth showed large quantities of "blue tarp" roofs there for >> YEARS 🙂 >> >> BUT, Laura Bush DID show up to distribute water bottles and MREs ! > > I though that was Waffle House's job? As I remember, the nearest WH had been trashed. BAD storms ! By popular convention, no WH = no civilization.
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| From | Rich <rich@example.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-08-19 12:57 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <116498l$2l1f7$4@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #90085 |
c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> wrote: > On 8/18/26 04:10, vallor wrote: >> At 18 Aug 2026 06:05:55 GMT, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote: >> >>> On Tue, 18 Aug 2026 01:44:51 -0400, c186282 wrote: >>> >>>> Tried FFox and Chromium the past few days. The site is ULTRA-slow, >>>> useless. >>> >>> Brave browser. Went to the site, paged through the instructions, went to >>> the Cinnamon download, selected the Clarkson mirror, and the download >>> started immediately. Canceled the download. >>> >>> Like I've said before you have a lot more problems than the average bear. >> >> Well, his clock is off -- probably not enough to effect TLS, but >> figuring that out is above my current paygrade. >> >> Dear Mr. c-cipher, >> >> Please run: >> >> $ ntpdate -q time.nist.gov >> >> And post what you see. Mine says: >> >> 2026-08-18 01:06:57.105142 (-0700) +0.000209 +/- 0.016759 time.nist.gov 132.163.96.6 s1 no-leap > > > Checked, MY clock is dead on. > > Anyway, they took away my hardwire and gave me a 5G where the > antenna is many miles away. Weak signal almost always, perhaps > packet errors too. > > But why the Mint site so notably ??? Perhaps Mint's servers were put on the other side of another 5G gateway? > Weirdness spanned DAYS too. Or, perhaps the AI bots were busying downloading, in parallel, every file offered on the Mint website, over-saturating Mint's outbound network link.
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| From | The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-08-19 14:03 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <11649jq$2le0s$4@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #90085 |
On 19/08/2026 03:16, c186282 wrote: > Weak signal almost always, perhaps packet > errors too. > > But why the Mint site so notably ??? > Weirdness spanned DAYS too. Different mint servers have different loading at different times Its often better for me to download from other than UK based ones -- "Nature does not give up the winter because people dislike the cold." ― Confucius
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| From | c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> |
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| Date | 2026-08-19 22:24 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <e--dnUBUO5z_-Bv3nZ2dnZfqnPSdnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #90121 |
On 8/19/26 09:03, The Natural Philosopher wrote: > On 19/08/2026 03:16, c186282 wrote: >> Weak signal almost always, perhaps packet >> errors too. >> >> But why the Mint site so notably ??? >> Weirdness spanned DAYS too. > > Different mint servers have different loading at different times > > Its often better for me to download from other than UK based ones Can't remember - but it MAY have been using a Euro site to serve the download. Anyway, the effect lasted for days.
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| From | c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> |
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| Date | 2026-08-18 22:07 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <_46cnQkXs59Hkhj3nZ2dnZfqn_SdnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #90039 |
On 8/18/26 02:05, rbowman wrote: > On Tue, 18 Aug 2026 01:44:51 -0400, c186282 wrote: > >> Tried FFox and Chromium the past few days. The site is ULTRA-slow, >> useless. > > Brave browser. Went to the site, paged through the instructions, went to > the Cinnamon download, selected the Clarkson mirror, and the download > started immediately. Canceled the download. > > Like I've said before you have a lot more problems than the average bear. It's true. In PART it's because I'm stuck with a somewhat balky 5G net connection. At times the signal strength goes to about naught, other times weird delays in transmission - packet errors ? It's why I was wondering about StarLink a little while back. Alas seems you need a pretty clear northeast 'view' from where I am - and I don't HAVE one ... big trees most everywhere. I'd have to run a 100' cable out under the yard to get a good clear point. StarLink MAY still be a viable "backup" however. Even a half-assed signal is better than none at all. Anyway, after a LONG wait, finally did get the download page to come up. Grabbed the latest XFCE version. Good enough.
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2026-08-19 03:42 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <nekn1aFe0jfU10@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #90083 |
On Tue, 18 Aug 2026 22:07:20 -0400, c186282 wrote: > It's why I was wondering about StarLink a little while back. Alas > seems you need a pretty clear northeast 'view' from where I am - and > I don't HAVE one ... big trees most everywhere. I'd have to run a > 100' cable out under the yard to get a good clear point. I was concerned about the tree but it's to the west and the receiver is oriented to 5 degrees. You can download the app for free to evaluate the site. You point the phone at the sky and rotate through 360. I was skeptical about the services using geosynchronous sats, the footprint, and how many subscribers would be in the beam. The Leos, and there are a lot of them, solve that problem. I am a bit curious how it works. Back in the day the ham sats were store and forwards and the window was only a few minutes. Of course there was only the one and not over 1000.
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| From | c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> |
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| Date | 2026-08-19 02:14 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <KnydnRY2DeMh1Bj3nZ2dnZfqn_cAAAAA@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #90092 |
On 8/18/26 23:42, rbowman wrote: > On Tue, 18 Aug 2026 22:07:20 -0400, c186282 wrote: > >> It's why I was wondering about StarLink a little while back. Alas >> seems you need a pretty clear northeast 'view' from where I am - and >> I don't HAVE one ... big trees most everywhere. I'd have to run a >> 100' cable out under the yard to get a good clear point. > > I was concerned about the tree but it's to the west and the receiver is > oriented to 5 degrees. You can download the app for free to evaluate the > site. You point the phone at the sky and rotate through 360. I don't have the kind of phone that'll run "apps". > I was skeptical about the services using geosynchronous sats, the > footprint, and how many subscribers would be in the beam. The Leos, and > there are a lot of them, solve that problem. LONG back I put my office on geo-sync sat internet. It worked, and - sometimes - was faster than our old shotgunned dial-ups. Alas as web pages quickly became full of SHIT ... the signals bouncing 33,000 miles up and back and up and back REALLY dragged down the connection. Then the phone offered DSL and we used that for a long time. Sorry, even the speed of light is NOT nearly fast enough these days. StarLink kinda CHEATS - very low orbits and clever data-routing tricks. > I am a bit curious how it works. Back in the day the ham sats were store > and forwards and the window was only a few minutes. Of course there was > only the one and not over 1000. Well, StarLink is "in the works" even now. I think Musk still wants at least ten times as many sats, and the next-gen sats handle many more channels. A sort of extravagant system, but it's proven very useful and resistant to sabotage. ANYway, my geography is NOT so great for StarLink. It'd probably work but I'd never get the promised data speed. BIG trees everywhere. Also, their MOUNTING schemes ... searched Amazon and there was NOTHING really suitable for my house and likely weather conditions. I'd need to fab a hardwood frame and a 4-point mount to a concrete wall. Ordinary T-storm came through today ... gusts to maybe 60mph. It can get worse, much worse.
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