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| Started by | L Thorpe <lt666@sixsixsix.net> |
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| First post | 2026-08-15 20:45 +0000 |
| Last post | 2026-08-16 11:55 +0000 |
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Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 L Thorpe <lt666@sixsixsix.net> - 2026-08-15 20:45 +0000
Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-08-15 17:10 -0400
Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 L Thorpe <lt666@sixsixsix.net> - 2026-08-15 21:15 +0000
Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-08-15 17:21 -0400
Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 Leroy H <lh@somewhere.net> - 2026-08-15 22:56 +0000
Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-16 02:26 -0400
Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-08-16 03:01 -0400
Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-08-17 09:48 -0700
Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-08-17 12:54 -0400
Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-17 17:49 +0000
Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-08-17 14:34 -0400
Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-08-17 23:48 +0000
Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-08-17 12:14 -0700
Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-17 22:55 +0000
Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 Leroy H <lh@somewhere.net> - 2026-08-17 19:33 +0000
Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-08-17 15:39 -0400
Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 Leroy H <lh@somewhere.net> - 2026-08-17 20:13 +0000
Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-08-16 10:58 +0200
Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 Leroy H <lh@somewhere.net> - 2026-08-16 14:30 +0000
Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-16 17:44 +0100
Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 L Thorpe <lt666@sixsixsix.net> - 2026-08-16 17:01 +0000
Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-17 00:52 -0400
Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-08-17 16:58 +0000
Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-08-17 13:45 -0400
Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-08-17 18:59 +0000
Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-08-17 15:16 -0400
OT (was: Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11) "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-08-17 21:20 +0100
Re: OT "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-08-17 16:42 -0400
Re: OT "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-08-17 22:21 +0100
Re: OT "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-08-17 18:23 -0400
Re: OT John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-08-17 14:34 -0700
Re: OT "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-08-17 18:24 -0400
Re: OT John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-08-17 15:40 -0700
Re: OT "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-08-17 18:44 -0400
Re: OT John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-08-18 07:51 -0700
Re: OT "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-08-18 11:20 -0400
Re: OT John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-08-18 10:24 -0700
Re: OT The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-19 13:58 +0100
Re: OT Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-08-18 00:47 +0000
Re: OT "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-08-17 20:51 -0400
Re: OT rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-18 03:01 +0000
Re: OT Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-08-18 04:55 +0000
Re: OT rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-18 02:55 +0000
Re: OT Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2026-08-19 18:30 +0000
Re: OT "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-08-19 22:19 +0100
Re: OT Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2026-08-20 15:41 +0000
Re: OT "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-08-20 17:05 +0100
Re: OT Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2026-08-20 17:57 +0000
Re: OT "Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2026-08-20 18:59 +0100
Re: OT Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2026-08-20 18:48 +0000
Re: OT Oz roads /satnavs "Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2026-08-20 21:23 +0100
Re: OT Oz roads /satnavs Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2026-08-21 07:40 +0000
Re: OT rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-20 20:50 +0000
Re: OT rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-20 20:32 +0000
Re: OT rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-20 20:26 +0000
Re: OT Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-08-20 22:44 +0000
Re: OT rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-21 03:36 +0000
Re: OT The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-21 13:43 +0100
Re: OT rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-21 18:08 +0000
Re: OT chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2026-08-21 16:03 -0500
Re: OT rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-22 03:50 +0000
Re: OT c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-22 05:21 -0400
Re: OT rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-22 19:16 +0000
Re: OT chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2026-08-22 10:34 -0500
Re: OT rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-22 19:40 +0000
Re: OT The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-22 23:42 +0100
Re: OT The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-22 00:09 +0100
Re: OT "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-08-21 19:43 +0200
Re: OT The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-22 00:06 +0100
Re: OT rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-22 04:11 +0000
Re: OT c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-22 03:20 -0400
Re: OT rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-22 19:28 +0000
Re: OT The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-22 23:41 +0100
Re: OT rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-23 01:07 +0000
Re: OT "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-08-22 13:42 +0100
Re: OT rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-22 19:33 +0000
Re: OT rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-20 20:05 +0000
Re: OT Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-08-20 20:26 +0000
Re: OT Robert Riches <spamtrap42@jacob21819.net> - 2026-08-20 21:18 +0000
Re: OT rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-21 03:54 +0000
Re: OT The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-21 13:45 +0100
Re: OT Robert Riches <spamtrap42@jacob21819.net> - 2026-08-21 19:07 +0000
Re: OT The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-22 00:23 +0100
Re: OT rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-20 22:12 +0000
Re: OT The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-20 01:16 +0100
Re: OT "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-08-20 12:31 +0200
Re: OT The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-20 11:59 +0100
Re: OT "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-08-20 15:23 +0200
Re: OT The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-21 13:39 +0100
Re: OT "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-08-21 19:52 +0200
Re: OT "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-08-20 17:15 +0100
Re: OT Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-08-21 02:49 +0000
Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-17 22:51 +0000
Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 "Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2026-08-18 08:39 +0100
Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-08-18 03:52 -0400
Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-08-18 21:15 +1000
Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-08-18 07:25 -0400
Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-08-18 21:44 +1000
Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-08-18 07:52 -0400
Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-18 13:18 +0100
Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-08-18 08:36 -0400
Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-18 13:16 +0100
Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-17 18:07 +0000
Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-08-17 23:40 +0000
Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-08-17 19:45 -0400
Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-08-18 00:47 +0000
Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-08-18 02:51 +0000
Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-08-18 03:10 +0000
Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-18 00:48 -0400
Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-18 10:26 +0100
Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-08-18 04:55 +0000
Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2026-08-18 08:55 -0400
Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-18 17:24 +0100
Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-08-18 16:37 +0000
Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2026-08-18 20:51 -0400
Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-19 15:04 +0100
Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-19 20:53 +0000
Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2026-08-19 22:11 -0400
Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-20 11:58 +0100
Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-20 21:51 +0000
Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2026-08-20 21:06 -0400
Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-21 13:50 +0100
Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-21 18:55 +0000
Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-22 00:18 +0100
Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-19 04:32 +0000
Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-08-19 05:34 +0000
Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-19 14:52 +0100
Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-19 21:08 +0000
Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-08-19 22:54 +0000
Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-20 04:11 +0000
Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-18 10:25 +0100
Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-18 15:34 +0000
Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-18 17:30 +0100
Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-08-18 16:30 +0000
Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-08-18 22:52 +0000
Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2026-08-19 05:54 +0200
Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-19 14:47 +0100
Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-19 21:26 +0000
Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-20 01:42 +0100
Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 Leroy H <lh@somewhere.net> - 2026-08-20 01:42 +0000
Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-18 03:34 +0000
Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 Robert Riches <spamtrap42@jacob21819.net> - 2026-08-17 19:08 +0000
Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-16 23:42 -0400
Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 vallor <vallor@vallor.earth> - 2026-08-16 11:55 +0000
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| From | CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> |
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| Date | 2026-08-20 21:06 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <6a87a4ab$0$21$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com> |
| In reply to | #90203 |
On 2026-08-20 6:58 a.m., The Natural Philosopher wrote: > On 20/08/2026 03:11, CrudeSausage wrote: >> On 2026-08-19 10:04 a.m., The Natural Philosopher wrote: >>> On 19/08/2026 01:51, CrudeSausage wrote: >>>> Since Hitler and Stalin aren't that far apart, we don't need to >>>> wonder what would happen if Communists and their Muslims allies in >>>> North America would do if they manage to take a greater amount of >>>> power. War and misery is on the menu. >>> >>> The Left LOVE Islam. 'Queers for Palestine' is the most ridiculous >>> thing I have ever heard. >>> >>> Churchill described Islam as a "militant and proselytizing faith" and >>> asserted that "the influence of the religion paralyses the social >>> development of those who follow it" In the same text, he criticized >>> what he perceived as a "fatalistic apathy", economic stagnation, and >>> the status of women under traditional interpretations of Islamic law >>> >>> And, in fact that is exactly true of the hard left of today as well. >>> Apart from the woman bit. >>> >>> The problem is that the rational materialism of the post modern >>> intellectuals has eroded any semblance of religious faith and >>> morality in those who espouse it and left a massive vacuum in those >>> who simply need something - anything - to Believe In. And give them >>> some kind of Moral Compass. >>> >>> Into that vacuum steps Communism, Wokeism, Political correctness, >>> Liberalism, Radical Islam . the Greens and of course yer axshul >>> Donald Trump and MAGA. >>> >>> All promising salvation. And sa simple set of moral guidelines >>> 'America first. fuck the foreigners' 'God is great, fuck the >>> infidels' . 'Everybody is really nice, kill the bastards who don't >>> think so' >>> >>> And so on. >> >> At some point, salvation comes from simply turning all electronics off >> and not paying attention anymore. >> > That would be fine if it was just your head: I ran into the fringes of > an animal rights demonstration once. Now I have had loaded guns pointed > at me, but the wild eyed guy with the placard shrieking ' kill the > murderers' was far more scary... > > You need to know where the next crazy is coming from... Which is part of why it is difficult for _me_ to turn off the screen. I'm trying to pay less attention to what's going on in the United States though. Much like YouTube which knows you so well that it always has yet another video for you to watch, American news has just enough drama for you to keep your eyes peeled. Trying to get away from what seems to be an endless distraction is proving to be very difficult. -- CrudeSausage M4 MacBook Air Matthew 7:15 John 14:6
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| From | The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-08-21 13:50 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <1169hi4$9sqa$12@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #90250 |
On 21/08/2026 02:06, CrudeSausage wrote: > On 2026-08-20 6:58 a.m., The Natural Philosopher wrote: >> On 20/08/2026 03:11, CrudeSausage wrote: >>> On 2026-08-19 10:04 a.m., The Natural Philosopher wrote: >>>> On 19/08/2026 01:51, CrudeSausage wrote: >>>>> Since Hitler and Stalin aren't that far apart, we don't need to >>>>> wonder what would happen if Communists and their Muslims allies in >>>>> North America would do if they manage to take a greater amount of >>>>> power. War and misery is on the menu. >>>> >>>> The Left LOVE Islam. 'Queers for Palestine' is the most ridiculous >>>> thing I have ever heard. >>>> >>>> Churchill described Islam as a "militant and proselytizing faith" >>>> and asserted that "the influence of the religion paralyses the >>>> social development of those who follow it" In the same text, he >>>> criticized what he perceived as a "fatalistic apathy", economic >>>> stagnation, and the status of women under traditional >>>> interpretations of Islamic law >>>> >>>> And, in fact that is exactly true of the hard left of today as well. >>>> Apart from the woman bit. >>>> >>>> The problem is that the rational materialism of the post modern >>>> intellectuals has eroded any semblance of religious faith and >>>> morality in those who espouse it and left a massive vacuum in those >>>> who simply need something - anything - to Believe In. And give them >>>> some kind of Moral Compass. >>>> >>>> Into that vacuum steps Communism, Wokeism, Political correctness, >>>> Liberalism, Radical Islam . the Greens and of course yer axshul >>>> Donald Trump and MAGA. >>>> >>>> All promising salvation. And sa simple set of moral guidelines >>>> 'America first. fuck the foreigners' 'God is great, fuck the >>>> infidels' . 'Everybody is really nice, kill the bastards who don't >>>> think so' >>>> >>>> And so on. >>> >>> At some point, salvation comes from simply turning all electronics >>> off and not paying attention anymore. >>> >> That would be fine if it was just your head: I ran into the fringes of >> an animal rights demonstration once. Now I have had loaded guns >> pointed at me, but the wild eyed guy with the placard shrieking ' kill >> the murderers' was far more scary... >> >> You need to know where the next crazy is coming from... > > Which is part of why it is difficult for _me_ to turn off the screen. > I'm trying to pay less attention to what's going on in the United States > though. Much like YouTube which knows you so well that it always has yet > another video for you to watch, American news has just enough drama for > you to keep your eyes peeled. Trying to get away from what seems to be > an endless distraction is proving to be very difficult. > These days I have somehow arrived at a helicopter view. I KNOW that its 99.9% propaganda paid for by someone who has a vested interest in shoving shit into your brain, so I try to have a meta view, to work out who is that someone and why they want that particular shit shoved in. It's remarkable how the probable answer comes up as 'the Kremlin' 'Arab oil states' or 'Some Big Business' -- You can get much farther with a kind word and a gun than you can with a kind word alone. Al Capone
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2026-08-21 18:55 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <nerl97Fpub2U55@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #90280 |
On Fri, 21 Aug 2026 13:50:12 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote: > These days I have somehow arrived at a helicopter view. > I KNOW that its 99.9% propaganda paid for by someone who has a vested > interest in shoving shit into your brain, so I try to have a meta view, > to work out who is that someone and why they want that particular shit > shoved in. Comparison of the propaganda is interesting. It isn't in the news cycle today but often the western press reports on Ukrainian civilians killed by Russian drones. Oddly RT reports on Russian civilians killed by Ukrainian drones. Sometimes there is an element of humor. https://www.rt.com/russia/644451-rt-speaks-with-russian-farmer-fined- firing-ukrainian-uav/ "Nikolay Mukhin has said his love for his country drove him to try to down the drone with his shotgun" You've got to give the old guy an A for effort. He was fined for discharging the shotgun and the shotgun was confiscated but the court reversed the decision. He would so fit in around here. That propaganda war isn't a pimple on the ass of the Middle East propaganda. Even the US MSM is having a hard time reporting on that with a straight face.
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| From | The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-08-22 00:18 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <116amco$mo6m$5@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #90298 |
On 21/08/2026 19:55, rbowman wrote: > Comparison of the propaganda is interesting. It isn't in the news cycle > today but often the western press reports on Ukrainian civilians killed by > Russian drones. Oddly RT reports on Russian civilians killed by Ukrainian > drones. Sometimes there is an element of humor. Mostly the UK coverage gives the impression that Russia is beating the shit out of Ukraine. Its full on Kremlin press releases. Ukraine doesn't have such established channels, but I find info from elsewhere that shows Ukraine is in fact beating the shit out of Russia. Just knocked out their orbital rocket base. No more RuskyStarLink satellites going up, so coverage is very patchy 40% of Wildberry warehouses are smoking ruins. (Russky Amazon) 60% of oil refining capacity is off line. Almost nothing but a damaged bridge now connects Russia to Crimea, and the overland route down the Donbas is a Gauntlet run for trucks with the routes pretty much controlled by Ukrainian drones even if its nominally occupied by Russia. None of this makes it to the MSM. All THEY report on is ballistic missile strikes on Kyiv civilian targets. -- "An intellectual is a person knowledgeable in one field who speaks out only in others...” Tom Wolfe
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2026-08-19 04:32 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <nekpvkFe0jfU15@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #90075 |
On Tue, 18 Aug 2026 16:37:12 GMT, Charlie Gibbs wrote: > In actual fact, the ends of this line curve around and meet, meaning > that Hitler and Stalin really aren't that far apart. > As somone once said in one of these discussions, the extremists all meet > somewhere around on the dark side. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horseshoe_theory I think it was Goebbels that remarked that a KPD radical that had a change of heart made a really good SA soldier. You do have to be careful as the Strassers found out.
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| From | Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-08-19 05:34 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <tfbhS.30508$EDc8.14824@fx24.iad> |
| In reply to | #90099 |
On 2026-08-19, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote: > On Tue, 18 Aug 2026 16:37:12 GMT, Charlie Gibbs wrote: > >> In actual fact, the ends of this line curve around and meet, meaning >> that Hitler and Stalin really aren't that far apart. >> As somone once said in one of these discussions, the extremists all meet >> somewhere around on the dark side. > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horseshoe_theory Bingo! That looks a lot like my theory. I think the Taliban are somewhere off the ends. -- /~\ Charlie Gibbs | In this world there are \ / <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> | two kinds of people: X I'm really at ac.dekanfrus | 1. Those who can extrapolate / \ if you read it the right way. | from incomplete data.
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| From | The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-08-19 14:52 +0100 |
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On 18/08/2026 17:37, Charlie Gibbs wrote: > n actual fact, the ends of this line curve around and meet, > meaning that Hitler and Stalin really aren't that far apart. > As somone once said in one of these discussions, the extremists > all meet somewhere around on the dark side. Both communism and corpocracy have one thing in common. No decisions or wealth should be left in the hands of the little people. We are slaves, either to the State or the Company. And as they call it in Communist [ANC] run South Africa, 'State Capture' ensures that they are essentially the same thing. -- "When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this sign, that the dunces are all in confederacy against him." Jonathan Swift.
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2026-08-19 21:08 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <nemka1Fpub2U16@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #90135 |
On Wed, 19 Aug 2026 14:52:20 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote: > On 18/08/2026 17:37, Charlie Gibbs wrote: >> n actual fact, the ends of this line curve around and meet, meaning >> that Hitler and Stalin really aren't that far apart. As somone once >> said in one of these discussions, the extremists all meet somewhere >> around on the dark side. > > Both communism and corpocracy have one thing in common. No decisions or > wealth should be left in the hands of the little people. Big Business and State Socialism are very much alike, especially Big Business.” “Too much capitalism does not mean too many capitalists, but too few capitalists.” G.K. Chesterton https://www.chesterton.org/quotations/economic-theory-and-distributism/ Chesterton and Belloc's distributism followed from Catholic social doctrine which followed from Leo XIII's Rerum Novarum. https://www.vatican.va/content/leo-xiii/en/encyclicals/documents/hf_l- xiii_enc_15051891_rerum-novarum.html The current Leo certainly isn't equivalent to his namesake. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Distributism
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| From | Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-08-19 22:54 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <iuqhS.48260$9DC1.41783@fx18.iad> |
| In reply to | #90163 |
On 2026-08-19, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote: > “Too much capitalism does not mean too many capitalists, but too few > capitalists.” > > G.K. Chesterton *applause* -- /~\ Charlie Gibbs | In this world there are \ / <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> | two kinds of people: X I'm really at ac.dekanfrus | 1. Those who can extrapolate / \ if you read it the right way. | from incomplete data.
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2026-08-20 04:11 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <nend43Fpub2U29@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #90171 |
On Wed, 19 Aug 2026 22:54:06 GMT, Charlie Gibbs wrote: > On 2026-08-19, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote: > >> “Too much capitalism does not mean too many capitalists, but too few >> capitalists.” >> >> G.K. Chesterton > > *applause* He did have a way with words. It gets a bit strange toward the end but I think of 'The Man Who Was Thursday' every time the FBI makes one of their orchestrated busts. Six out of seven of the members of the underground anarchist cell were actually undercover detectives of various agencies.
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| From | The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-08-18 10:25 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <11618dq$1mmpl$3@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #90006 |
On 18/08/2026 01:47, Charlie Gibbs wrote: > "Corporatocracy" seems to be preferable. Corpocracy. Be British. Don't multiply syllables beyond necessity. (William of Occam, A Brit, adapted).. -- "Socialist governments traditionally do make a financial mess. They always run out of other people's money. It's quite a characteristic of them" Margaret Thatcher
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2026-08-18 15:34 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <nejcbcFe0jfU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #90048 |
On Tue, 18 Aug 2026 10:25:14 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote: > On 18/08/2026 01:47, Charlie Gibbs wrote: >> "Corporatocracy" seems to be preferable. > Corpocracy. Be British. Don't multiply syllables beyond necessity. > (William of Occam, A Brit, adapted).. That might be confused with coprophagia -- or perhaps they are the same thing. I've always had a soft spot for Old Bill, not wanting to dwell in Plato's Cloud Cuckoo Land.
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| From | The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-08-18 17:30 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <11621bo$1v4qd$5@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #90067 |
On 18/08/2026 16:34, rbowman wrote: > On Tue, 18 Aug 2026 10:25:14 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote: > >> On 18/08/2026 01:47, Charlie Gibbs wrote: >>> "Corporatocracy" seems to be preferable. >> Corpocracy. Be British. Don't multiply syllables beyond necessity. >> (William of Occam, A Brit, adapted).. > > That might be confused with coprophagia -- or perhaps they are the > same thing. I dear, they may well converge as the old doctrine about 'mushroom' management says "Keep them in the dark and feed them on bullshit" > I've always had a soft spot for Old Bill, not wanting to dwell in > Plato's Cloud Cuckoo Land. Ah. That got me for a second. In the UK The Old Bill are in fact the fuzz, pigs, cops, etc. Willy Occam understood what everyone else forgot till Hume. A Hypothesis is only disprovable. In which case why be so damned complicated. It was all lies anyway.. No one knew the truth and only the Church claimed to... -- Climate is what you expect but weather is what you get. Mark Twain
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| From | Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-08-18 16:30 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <eM%gS.35896$Wz_7.5769@fx40.iad> |
| In reply to | #90048 |
On 2026-08-18, The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote: > On 18/08/2026 01:47, Charlie Gibbs wrote: > >> "Corporatocracy" seems to be preferable. > > Corpocracy. Be British. Don't multiply syllables beyond necessity. > (William of Occam, A Brit, adapted).. "Orientate" is an example of the trend toward polysyllabificationizing. (My other pet peeve: saying "preventative" instead of "preventive".) -- /~\ Charlie Gibbs | In this world there are \ / <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> | two kinds of people: X I'm really at ac.dekanfrus | 1. Those who can extrapolate / \ if you read it the right way. | from incomplete data.
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| From | Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-08-18 22:52 +0000 |
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| In reply to | #90071 |
On Tue, 18 Aug 2026 16:30:02 GMT, Charlie Gibbs wrote: > On 2026-08-18, The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote: > >> On 18/08/2026 01:47, Charlie Gibbs wrote: >> >>> "Corporatocracy" seems to be preferable. >> >> Corpocracy. Be British. Don't multiply syllables beyond necessity. >> (William of Occam, A Brit, adapted).. > > "Orientate" is an example of the trend toward > polysyllabificationizing. > > (My other pet peeve: saying "preventative" instead of "preventive".) “Adaptation” or “adaption”?
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| From | Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> |
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| Date | 2026-08-19 05:54 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <p3aa8l5vo37s1hsp1s26ttqda4cq321li7@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #90080 |
On Tue, 18 Aug 2026 22:52:09 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence DÿOliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote: >On Tue, 18 Aug 2026 16:30:02 GMT, Charlie Gibbs wrote: > >> On 2026-08-18, The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote: >> >>> On 18/08/2026 01:47, Charlie Gibbs wrote: >>> >>>> "Corporatocracy" seems to be preferable. >>> >>> Corpocracy. Be British. Don't multiply syllables beyond necessity. >>> (William of Occam, A Brit, adapted).. >> >> "Orientate" is an example of the trend toward >> polysyllabificationizing. >> >> (My other pet peeve: saying "preventative" instead of "preventive".) > >“Adaptation” or “adaption”? Administer --> administrate Comment --> commentate -- Steve Hayes from Tshwane, South Africa Web: http://www.khanya.org.za/stevesig.htm Blog: http://methodius.blogspot.com E-mail - see web page, or parse: shayes at dunelm full stop org full stop uk
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| From | The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-08-19 14:47 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <1164c5u$2le0s$16@dont-email.me> |
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On 18/08/2026 17:30, Charlie Gibbs wrote: > On 2026-08-18, The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote: > >> On 18/08/2026 01:47, Charlie Gibbs wrote: >> >>> "Corporatocracy" seems to be preferable. >> >> Corpocracy. Be British. Don't multiply syllables beyond necessity. >> (William of Occam, A Brit, adapted).. > > "Orientate" is an example of the trend toward polysyllabificationizing. > Yes. I love the US 'burglarise' Both countries needed to make a verb out of the activities of burglars. The UK chose 'to burgle'. > (My other pet peeve: saying "preventative" instead of "preventive".) > Use prophylactics instead -- "When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this sign, that the dunces are all in confederacy against him." Jonathan Swift.
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2026-08-19 21:26 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <nemlbbFpub2U17@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #90134 |
On Wed, 19 Aug 2026 14:47:42 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote: > I love the US 'burglarise' > Both countries needed to make a verb out of the activities of burglars. > The UK chose 'to burgle'. Many jurisdictions in the US specify burglary as entering an unoccupied building and home invasion for an occupied building. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Home_invasion This state has the castle doctrine with a no retreat clause: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Castle_doctrine It isn't an automatic license to kill. A local was convicted of murder since he baited a kid breaking into garages by leaving the door open. It didn't help that he fired a 12 gauge into the dark garage 4 times without identifying a target. 4th rule of firearm safety: Always Be Sure of Your Target and What’s Beyond It
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| From | The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-08-20 01:42 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <1165ihf$33bfm$5@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #90166 |
On 19/08/2026 22:26, rbowman wrote: > On Wed, 19 Aug 2026 14:47:42 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote: > >> I love the US 'burglarise' >> Both countries needed to make a verb out of the activities of burglars. >> The UK chose 'to burgle'. > > Many jurisdictions in the US specify burglary as entering an unoccupied > building and home invasion for an occupied building. > UK law, has breaking and entering, burglary and robbery with violence. Or did. They reformed it a bit "The old common law term "breaking and entering" is now encompassed within the statutory offence of burglary. A person commits burglary if they enter any building (or part of a building) as a trespasser" "If a person commits a standard burglary and has with them at the time any firearm, imitation firearm, explosive, or weapon of offence, it becomes aggravated burglary" "Robbery is fundamentally different from burglary because it focuses on a direct confrontation and theft from a person. A person is guilty of robbery if they steal and immediately before or at the time of doing so, and in order to do so, they use force on any person or put/seek to put any person in fear of being subjected to force" > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Home_invasion > > This state has the castle doctrine with a no retreat clause: > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Castle_doctrine > > It isn't an automatic license to kill. A local was convicted of murder > since he baited a kid breaking into garages by leaving the door open. It > didn't help that he fired a 12 gauge into the dark garage 4 times without > identifying a target. 4th rule of firearm safety: > > Always Be Sure of Your Target and What’s Beyond It > -- There is something fascinating about science. One gets such wholesale returns of conjecture out of such a trifling investment of fact. Mark Twain
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| From | Leroy H <lh@somewhere.net> |
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| Date | 2026-08-20 01:42 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <18cd5ffdd6a11452$186395$796307$802601b3@news.usenetexpress.com> |
| In reply to | #90179 |
On Thu, 20 Aug 2026 01:42:23 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote: > > UK law, has breaking and entering, burglary and robbery with violence. > Or did. They reformed it a bit > In the ever Victorian UK, breaking and entering is always called "buggery," and was always a tradition in the Royal Navy: <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rMxALY5IaAs> Haaaaaaaaaa, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha!
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