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Oh Gawd - Now MX Linux "Security Verification" - NO !!!

Started byc186282 <c186282@nnada.net>
First post2026-08-16 03:47 -0400
Last post2026-08-17 17:14 +0000
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  Oh Gawd - Now MX Linux "Security Verification" - NO !!! c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-16 03:47 -0400
    Re: Oh Gawd - Now MX Linux "Security Verification" - NO !!! rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-16 18:54 +0000
      Re: Oh Gawd - Now MX Linux "Security Verification" - NO !!! not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2026-08-17 08:46 +1000
        Re: Oh Gawd - Now MX Linux "Security Verification" - NO !!! c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-16 23:46 -0400
        Open web (was: Re: Oh Gawd - Now MX Linux "Security Verification" - NO !!!) Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-17 09:42 +0100
      Re: Oh Gawd - Now MX Linux "Security Verification" - NO !!! c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-16 23:44 -0400
        Re: Oh Gawd - Now MX Linux "Security Verification" - NO !!! rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-17 03:54 +0000
          Re: Oh Gawd - Now MX Linux "Security Verification" - NO !!! c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-17 01:24 -0400
          Linux 7.2 (was: Re: Oh Gawd - Now MX Linux "Security Verification" - NO !!!) vallor <vallor@vallor.earth> - 2026-08-17 08:59 +0000
            Re: Linux 7.2 (was: Re: Oh Gawd - Now MX Linux "Security Verification" - NO !!!) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-17 17:39 +0000
              Re: Linux 7.2 c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-17 22:26 -0400
            Re: Linux 7.2 c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-17 22:21 -0400
              Re: Linux 7.2 Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-18 08:30 +0100
              Re: Linux 7.2 Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-08-18 13:51 +0000
                Re: Linux 7.2 not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2026-08-19 08:16 +1000
                  Re: Linux 7.2 c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-18 22:57 -0400
                    Re: Linux 7.2 Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-08-19 12:37 +0000
                      Re: Linux 7.2 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-19 20:08 +0000
                  Re: Linux 7.2 Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-08-19 12:49 +0000
                    Re: Linux 7.2 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-19 14:44 +0100
                      Re: Linux 7.2 Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-19 17:56 +0100
                        Re: Linux 7.2 John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-08-19 10:27 -0700
                        Re: Linux 7.2 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-19 19:37 +0100
                      Re: Linux 7.2 Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-08-20 13:51 +0000
                        Re: Linux 7.2 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-21 13:25 +0100
                    Re: Linux 7.2 John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-08-19 08:45 -0700
                      Re: Linux 7.2 Robert Riches <spamtrap42@jacob21819.net> - 2026-08-19 16:48 +0000
        Re: Oh Gawd - Now MX Linux "Security Verification" - NO !!! TJ <TJ@noneofyour.business> - 2026-08-17 10:30 -0400
          Re: Oh Gawd - Now MX Linux "Security Verification" - NO !!! c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-17 22:25 -0400
            Re: Oh Gawd - Now MX Linux "Security Verification" - NO !!! rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-18 03:05 +0000
              Re: Oh Gawd - Now MX Linux "Security Verification" - NO !!! c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-18 00:58 -0400
              Re: Oh Gawd - Now MX Linux "Security Verification" - NO !!! The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-18 10:21 +0100
                Re: Oh Gawd - Now MX Linux "Security Verification" - NO !!! Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-08-18 13:55 +0000
                  Re: Oh Gawd - Now MX Linux "Security Verification" - NO !!! Robert Riches <spamtrap42@jacob21819.net> - 2026-08-18 21:24 +0000
                    Re: Oh Gawd - Now MX Linux "Security Verification" - NO !!! The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-19 14:41 +0100
                      Re: Oh Gawd - Now MX Linux "Security Verification" - NO !!! rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-19 19:00 +0000
              Re: Oh Gawd - Now MX Linux "Security Verification" - NO !!! Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-08-18 13:53 +0000
                Re: Oh Gawd - Now MX Linux "Security Verification" - NO !!! Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-08-18 16:30 +0000
                  Re: Oh Gawd - Now MX Linux "Security Verification" - NO !!! Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-08-18 23:02 +0000
                    Re: Oh Gawd - Now MX Linux "Security Verification" - NO !!! c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-18 23:02 -0400
                      Re: Oh Gawd - Now MX Linux "Security Verification" - NO !!! Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-08-19 12:53 +0000
                        Re: Oh Gawd - Now MX Linux "Security Verification" - NO !!! rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-19 19:25 +0000
                        Re: Oh Gawd - Now MX Linux "Security Verification" - NO !!! c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-19 21:37 -0400
                          Re: Oh Gawd - Now MX Linux "Security Verification" - NO !!! rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-20 03:24 +0000
                            Re: Oh Gawd - Now MX Linux "Security Verification" - NO !!! c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-20 12:32 -0400
                              Re: Oh Gawd - Now MX Linux "Security Verification" - NO !!! rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-20 20:53 +0000
                                Re: Oh Gawd - Now MX Linux "Security Verification" - NO !!! c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-20 22:14 -0400
                                  Re: Oh Gawd - Now MX Linux "Security Verification" - NO !!! rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-21 04:29 +0000
                                    Re: Oh Gawd - Now MX Linux "Security Verification" - NO !!! c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-21 01:17 -0400
                          Re: Oh Gawd - Now MX Linux "Security Verification" - NO !!! Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-08-20 13:55 +0000
                            Re: Oh Gawd - Now MX Linux "Security Verification" - NO !!! c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-20 13:04 -0400
                              Re: Oh Gawd - Now MX Linux "Security Verification" - NO !!! Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-08-20 18:04 +0000
                                Re: Oh Gawd - Now MX Linux "Security Verification" - NO !!! rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-20 21:02 +0000
                                  Re: Oh Gawd - Now MX Linux "Security Verification" - NO !!! c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-20 22:30 -0400
                                    Re: Oh Gawd - Now MX Linux "Security Verification" - NO !!! rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-21 04:24 +0000
                                      Re: Oh Gawd - Now MX Linux "Security Verification" - NO !!! c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-21 01:12 -0400
                                    Re: Oh Gawd - Now MX Linux "Security Verification" - NO !!! TJ <TJ@noneofyour.business> - 2026-08-21 08:22 -0400
                                      Re: Oh Gawd - Now MX Linux "Security Verification" - NO !!! Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam2616@zugschl.us> - 2026-08-21 16:01 +0200
                                        Re: Oh Gawd - Now MX Linux "Security Verification" - NO !!! The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-21 15:22 +0100
                                          Re: Oh Gawd - Now MX Linux "Security Verification" - NO !!! c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-21 23:55 -0400
                                        Re: Oh Gawd - Now MX Linux "Security Verification" - NO !!! rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-21 18:18 +0000
                                        Re: Oh Gawd - Now MX Linux "Security Verification" - NO !!! Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-08-22 01:56 +0000
                                          Re: Oh Gawd - Now MX Linux "Security Verification" - NO !!! Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-22 10:17 +0100
                                        Re: Oh Gawd - Now MX Linux "Security Verification" - NO !!! c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-21 23:31 -0400
                                        Re: Oh Gawd - Now MX Linux "Security Verification" - NO !!! TJ <TJ@noneofyour.business> - 2026-08-22 08:36 -0400
                                          Re: Oh Gawd - Now MX Linux "Security Verification" - NO !!! The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-22 13:44 +0100
                                            Re: Oh Gawd - Now MX Linux "Security Verification" - NO !!! TJ <TJ@noneofyour.business> - 2026-08-22 17:06 -0400
                                          Re: Oh Gods - Now MX Linux "Security Verification" - NO !!! Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-08-22 22:35 +0000
                                            Re: Oh Gods - Now MX Linux "Security Verification" - NO !!! c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-23 02:57 -0400
                                              Re: Oh Gods - Now MX Linux "Security Verification" - NO !!! "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-08-23 13:32 +0200
                                                Re: Oh Gods - Now MX Linux "Security Verification" - NO !!! The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-23 13:10 +0100
                                                  Re: Oh Gods - Now MX Linux "Security Verification" - NO !!! "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-08-23 14:47 +0200
                                                    Re: Oh Gods - Now MX Linux "Security Verification" - NO !!! The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-23 14:26 +0100
                                                    Re: Oh Gods - Now MX Linux "Security Verification" - NO !!! rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-23 18:34 +0000
                                                      Re: Oh Gods - Now MX Linux "Security Verification" - NO !!! "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-08-23 21:40 +0200
                                                        Re: Oh Gods - Now MX Linux "Security Verification" - NO !!! rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-24 01:24 +0000
                                                        Re: Oh Gods - Now MX Linux "Security Verification" - NO !!! c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-24 02:21 -0400
                                                          Re: Oh Gods - Now MX Linux "Security Verification" - NO !!! rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-24 21:05 +0000
                                                    Re: Oh Gods - Now MX Linux "Security Verification" - NO !!! c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-24 00:54 -0400
                                                      Re: Oh Gods - Now MX Linux "Security Verification" - NO !!! "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-08-24 09:18 +0200
                                                        Re: Oh Gods - Now MX Linux "Security Verification" - NO !!! rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-24 21:13 +0000
                                                        Re: Oh Gods - Now MX Linux "Security Verification" - NO !!! c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-25 00:01 -0400
                                                          Re: Oh Gods - Now MX Linux "Security Verification" - NO !!! The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-25 11:38 +0100
                                                          Re: Oh Gods - Now MX Linux "Security Verification" - NO !!! "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-08-25 14:08 +0200
                                                Legacy computer in embedded industial systems (Re: Oh Gods ...) Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> - 2026-08-23 06:20 -0700
                                                  Re: Legacy computer in embedded industial systems (Re: Oh Gods ...) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-23 14:31 +0100
                                                    Re: Legacy computer in embedded industial systems (Re: Oh Gods ...) Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> - 2026-08-23 11:28 -0700
                                                      Re: Legacy computer in embedded industial systems (Re: Oh Gods ...) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-23 19:58 +0100
                                                      Re: Legacy computer in embedded industial systems (Re: Oh Gods ...) c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-24 01:43 -0400
                                                        Re: Legacy computer in embedded industial systems (Re: Oh Gods ...) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-08-24 09:21 +0200
                                                          Re: Legacy computer in embedded industial systems (Re: Oh Gods ...) c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-25 00:33 -0400
                                                            Re: Legacy computer in embedded industial systems (Re: Oh Gods ...) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-08-25 14:11 +0200
                                                    Re: Legacy computer in embedded industial systems (Re: Oh Gods ...) c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-24 01:06 -0400
                                                  Re: Legacy computer in embedded industial systems (Re: Oh Gods ...) c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-24 01:01 -0400
                                                Re: Oh Gods - Now MX Linux "Security Verification" - NO !!! c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-23 23:19 -0400
                                              Re: Oh Gods - Now MX Linux "Security Verification" - NO !!! The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-23 12:46 +0100
                                                Re: Oh Gods - Now MX Linux "Security Verification" - NO !!! rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-23 18:41 +0000
                                                Re: Oh Gods - Now MX Linux "Security Verification" - NO !!! c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-24 00:19 -0400
                                      Re: Oh Gawd - Now MX Linux "Security Verification" - NO !!! c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-21 21:54 -0400
                              Re: Oh Gawd - Now MX Linux "Security Verification" - NO !!! The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-21 13:27 +0100
                              Re: Oh Gawd - Now MX Linux "Security Verification" - NO !!! Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-08-22 04:15 +0000
            Re: Oh Gawd - Now MX Linux "Security Verification" - NO !!! TJ <TJ@noneofyour.business> - 2026-08-19 11:48 -0400
      Re: Oh Gawd - Now MX Linux "Security Verification" - NO !!! Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-17 09:38 +0100
        Re: Oh Gawd - Now MX Linux "Security Verification" - NO !!! rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-17 17:14 +0000

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#90323

FromRich <rich@example.invalid>
Date2026-08-22 04:15 +0000
Message-ID<116b7ov$qb29$3@dont-email.me>
In reply to#90220
c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> wrote:
> On 8/20/26 09:55, Rich wrote:
>> c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> wrote:
>>>    ... I'd be happy with vanilla Deb forever.
>> 
>> Only if "forever" is defined as: "about twenty minutes".
> 
>   Another guy with a red fedora on the rack  :-)

Nope.  Don't care for the red fedora distro.  I've been exclusively an 
SLS (SoftLanding Systems -- you likely have no idea what that one was) 
or Slackware user since circa 1992 or 1993.

>   Deb, to me, "feels right".

And, given what you complain about here on Usenet, within about twenty 
minutes you'll have found some reason why Deb is badly broken beyond 
repair based upon your unique theories about how the Unix/Linux world 
works.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Softlanding_Linux_System

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#90146

FromTJ <TJ@noneofyour.business>
Date2026-08-19 11:48 -0400
Message-ID<1164j98$2p25r$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#90011
On 2026-08-17 22:25, c186282 wrote:
> On 8/17/26 10:30, TJ wrote:
>> On 2026-08-16 23:44, c186282 wrote:
>>> On 8/16/26 14:54, rbowman wrote:
>>>> On Sun, 16 Aug 2026 03:47:41 -0400, c186282 wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> WHO told them to do this ???
>>>>>
>>>>> No, I'm NOT gonna comply.
>>>>>
>>>>> If the Pixie Girl or equivs appear I *instantly*
>>>>> quit.
>>>>>
>>>>> Evil !
>>>>
>>>> So a 2 second CAPTCHA 3 a website uses to protect against malicious
>>>> attacks ruins your entire day?
>>>
>>>    Yep.
>>>
>>>    Over and out.
>>>
>>>    Oh, and nobody STEALS Linux - it's FREE.
>>>
>> Don't bother with Mageia's Bugzilla, then. Before we added mitigation, 
>> there were times when it was completely unusable, due to bots 
>> overloading our servers. They still manage to sneak in every once in a 
>> while, somehow.
>>
>> So with or without mitigation, you would not be happy with us.
>>
>> TJ
> 
>    OK ... I'll ignore Mageia BugZilla.
> 
>    Actually, given the current environ, heading
>    into the BSD universe. If I want bullshit I'd
>    buy Winders .....
> 
Good. Don't let the door hit you in the nether regions on the way out...

TJ

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#89961

FromNuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid>
Date2026-08-17 09:38 +0100
Message-ID<115uhah$r3ib$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#89943
On 2026-08-16, rbowman wrote:

> On Sun, 16 Aug 2026 03:47:41 -0400, c186282 wrote:
>
>> WHO told them to do this ???
>> 
>> No, I'm NOT gonna comply.
>> 
>> If the Pixie Girl or equivs appear I *instantly*
>> quit.
>> 
>> Evil !
>
> So a 2 second CAPTCHA 3 a website uses to protect against malicious 
> attacks ruins your entire day? 
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cloudflare#DDoS_mitigation
>
> I hate to tell you but I think your world is going to shrink. I didn't hit 
> the verification with Brave on two different machines. I think that's 
> because I'd been there before and they'd dropped a cookie.

If it is Cloudflare it is guaranteed to ruin some days. Cloudflare
doesn't support other than a few select browsers, at a few select
version ranges. Unless the site owner configures it to somehow let other
browsers bypass the "browser check"(*), you'll be left out of it even
with JS enabled. Anubis tends to be much better in this regard.

(*) Formerly "Browser Integrity Check" with proper fallbacks in place,
    at least when Cloudflare's team didn't forget these were fallbacks
    and shouldn't all require some newer feature like the Origin: header
    being set, which is how they tried to make a self-DDoS in the past.

>  OMG cookies!

Omnomnomnomnom :-P

-- 
Nuno Silva

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#89973

Fromrbowman <bowman@montana.com>
Date2026-08-17 17:14 +0000
Message-ID<negtrbFpk4lU29@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#89961
On Mon, 17 Aug 2026 09:38:41 +0100, Nuno Silva wrote:

> If it is Cloudflare it is guaranteed to ruin some days. Cloudflare
> doesn't support other than a few select browsers, at a few select
> version ranges. Unless the site owner configures it to somehow let other
> browsers bypass the "browser check"(*), you'll be left out of it even
> with JS enabled. Anubis tends to be much better in this regard.

Using mxlinux.org as the test case, I can successfully connect after 
CloudFlare verification with Brave, Firefox, Tor, and Librewolf.  Lynx 
reports:

"Just a moment...
   REFRESH(360 sec): https://mxlinux.org/
   Enable JavaScript and cookies to continue
'

That's expected. No JavaScript, no proof of work. Of course if you use a 
browser without JavaScript in 2026 don't expect to do much on the web. 
What browser are you using that is reject with JS enabled?



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