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  Re: Manipulating C code at the AST level, in C Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-14 12:26 +0100
    Re: Manipulating C code at the AST level, in C Geoff Clare <geoff@clare.See-My-Signature.invalid> - 2026-08-14 13:53 +0100
      Re: Manipulating C code at the AST level, in C Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-08-14 21:10 +0000
    Re: Manipulating C code at the AST level, in C scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-08-14 16:00 +0000
    Re: Manipulating C code at the AST level, in C c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-14 23:47 -0400
      Re: Manipulating C code at the AST level, in C rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-15 07:20 +0000
        Re: Manipulating C code at the AST level, in C The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-15 11:33 +0100
        Re: Manipulating C code at the AST level, in C c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-15 22:41 -0400
          Re: Manipulating C code at the AST level, in C "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-08-16 10:50 +0200
            Re: Manipulating C code at the AST level, in C rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-16 19:04 +0000
      Re: Manipulating C code at the AST level, in C Jim Jackson <jj@franjam.org.uk> - 2026-08-15 11:07 +0000
        Re: Manipulating C code at the AST level, in C The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-15 12:18 +0100
      Re: Manipulating C code at the AST level, in C Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-15 12:20 +0100
        Re: Manipulating C code at the AST level, in C c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-16 02:09 -0400
          Re: Manipulating C code at the AST level, in C Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-16 09:59 +0100
            Re: Manipulating C code at the AST level, in C The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-16 11:42 +0100
              Re: Manipulating C code at the AST level, in C c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-17 00:02 -0400
                Re: Manipulating C code at the AST level, in C rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-17 07:10 +0000
                  Re: Manipulating C code at the AST level, in C Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-17 09:32 +0100
                  Re: Manipulating C code at the AST level, in C The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-17 10:13 +0100
                    Re: Manipulating C code at the AST level, in C rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-17 17:15 +0000
                      Re: Manipulating C code at the AST level, in C The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-17 20:58 +0100
                    Re: Manipulating C code at the AST level, in C c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-17 22:24 -0400
                      Re: Manipulating C code at the AST level, in C Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-08-18 04:55 +0000
                        Re: Manipulating C code at the AST level, in C rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-18 06:17 +0000
                          Re: Manipulating C code at the AST level, in C c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-18 22:11 -0400
                            Re: Manipulating C code at the AST level, in C rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-19 04:21 +0000
                              Re: Manipulating C code at the AST level, in C c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-19 02:26 -0400
                                Re: Manipulating C code at the AST level, in C The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-19 14:29 +0100
                                  Re: Manipulating C code at the AST level, in C rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-19 19:36 +0000
                              Re: Manipulating C code at the AST level, in C The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-19 14:28 +0100
                            Re: Manipulating C code at the AST level, in C The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-19 14:24 +0100
                        Re: Manipulating C code at the AST level, in C The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-18 10:19 +0100
                          Re: Manipulating C code at the AST level, in C Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-08-18 16:30 +0000
                            Re: Manipulating C code at the AST level, in C rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-19 04:11 +0000
                              Re: Manipulating C code at the AST level, in C Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-08-19 04:22 +0000
                                Re: Manipulating C code at the AST level, in C Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-08-19 04:38 +0000
                                  Re: Manipulating C code at the AST level, in C Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-08-19 05:34 +0000
                                    Re: Manipulating C code at the AST level, in C rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-19 06:39 +0000
                                    Re: Manipulating C code at the AST level, in C Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-08-19 07:04 +0000
                                      Re: Manipulating C code at the AST level, in C rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-19 19:59 +0000
                                        Re: Manipulating C code at the AST level, in C The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-20 01:31 +0100
                                          Re: Manipulating C code at the AST level, in C rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-20 03:26 +0000
                                            Re: Manipulating C code at the AST level, in C The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-20 11:50 +0100
                                              Re: Manipulating C code at the AST level, in C The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-20 12:06 +0100
                                              Re: Manipulating C code at the AST level, in C c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-20 12:51 -0400
                                                Re: Manipulating C code at the AST level, in C The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-21 13:34 +0100
                                          Re: Manipulating C code at the AST level, in C Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-08-20 04:02 +0000
                                  Re: Manipulating C code at the AST level, in C rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-19 06:35 +0000
                                    Re: Manipulating C code at the AST level, in C The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-19 14:31 +0100
                                      Re: Manipulating C code at the AST level, in C rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-19 19:47 +0000
                                        [off-topic] MA 370 flight disappearance (Was: Re: Manipulating C code at the AST level, in C) Anton Antimo <anton@safunu.org> - 2026-08-20 10:04 -0300
                                          Re: [off-topic] MA 370 flight disappearance (Was: Re: Manipulating C code at the AST level, in C) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-20 21:11 +0000
                                          Re: [off-topic] MA 370 flight disappearance The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-21 13:32 +0100
                                Re: Manipulating C code at the AST level, in C c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-19 02:28 -0400
                                  Re: Manipulating C code at the AST level, in C Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-08-19 16:57 +0000
                                    Re: Manipulating C code at the AST level, in C rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-19 22:17 +0000
                                      Re: Manipulating C code at the AST level, in C The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-20 01:34 +0100
                                        Re: Manipulating C code at the AST level, in C rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-20 03:45 +0000
                                      Re: Manipulating C code at the AST level, in C c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-19 23:26 -0400
                                        Re: Manipulating C code at the AST level, in C rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-20 21:40 +0000
                                          Re: Manipulating C code at the AST level, in C c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-20 23:42 -0400
                                            Re: Manipulating C code at the AST level, in C rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-21 06:10 +0000
                                              Re: Manipulating C code at the AST level, in C Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> - 2026-08-21 06:01 -0700
                                                Re: Manipulating C code at the AST level, in C rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-21 18:36 +0000
                                Re: Manipulating C code at the AST level, in C rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-19 06:30 +0000
                            Re: Manipulating C code at the AST level, in C The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-19 14:15 +0100
                              Re: Manipulating C code at the AST level, in C rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-19 19:39 +0000
                                Re: Manipulating C code at the AST level, in C Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-08-19 22:54 +0000
                                  Re: Manipulating C code at the AST level, in C rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-20 04:03 +0000
                                Re: Manipulating C code at the AST level, in C The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-20 01:25 +0100
                                  Re: Manipulating C code at the AST level, in C rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-20 03:56 +0000
                                    Re: Manipulating C code at the AST level, in C Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-08-20 04:40 +0000
                                      Re: Manipulating C code at the AST level, in C Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-08-20 04:46 +0000
                                        Re: Manipulating C code at the AST level, in C Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-08-20 04:59 +0000
                                      Re: Manipulating C code at the AST level, in C rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-20 21:46 +0000
                                        Re: Manipulating C code at the AST level, in C Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-08-20 22:44 +0000
                                          Re: Manipulating C code at the AST level, in C rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-21 04:35 +0000
                                          Re: Manipulating C code at the AST level, in C c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-21 00:54 -0400
                                        Re: Manipulating C code at the AST level, in C c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-21 00:05 -0400
          Re: Manipulating C code at the AST level, in C rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-16 19:13 +0000
            Re: Manipulating C code at the AST level, in C c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-17 01:14 -0400
              Re: Manipulating C code at the AST level, in C Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-08-17 16:58 +0000
        Re: Manipulating C code at the AST level, in C Geoff Clare <geoff@clare.See-My-Signature.invalid> - 2026-08-17 13:44 +0100
          Re: Manipulating C code at the AST level, in C The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-17 15:31 +0100
            Re: Manipulating C code at the AST level, in C Geoff Clare <geoff@clare.See-My-Signature.invalid> - 2026-08-18 13:23 +0100
              Re: Manipulating C code at the AST level, in C The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-18 17:16 +0100
          Re: Manipulating C code at the AST level, in C Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-17 20:27 +0100

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#90242

On Wed, 19 Aug 2026 23:26:44 -0400, c186282 wrote:

>    I learned to fly - license at 17 - but then an OPEC embargo drove the
>    fuel costs beyond what I could cope with. Hell, couldn't even get the
>    red gas, they tried 100LL but the engine valves kept sticking ... not
>    good.

I was working on a project for fuel measurement and management. It was a 
DoD project and I was bored out of my mind so I decided to get some first 
hand experience with planes. The FBO at Middlebury VT was run by an ag 
pilot who offered instruction. It's an uncontrolled airport with one 
runway, 01/19. Typical mountain flying. 

I got bored enough that I took a contract in Ft. Wayne and resumed 
instruction. The instructor was a young woman building hours. My 
impression was she was in the wrong career. The real problem was Indiana. 
I don't do well in flatland. You could land in almost  any soybean field 
in an emergency but looking out and seeing nothing out to the limit of 
visibility was spooky. 

I also realized the VFR limits. I had previously worked for a company that 
was housed in the old Thurston plant that was located on an airport. 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thurston_Teal

The company president decided he would take the opportunity to learn to 
fly. He did so and bought a plane since it was so convenient to park it. 
His secretary wasn't enthused by flying off to business meetings but so it 
goes. One day he went to visit a client in Kennebunk ME, a distance of 
about 20 miles. Kennebunk being where it is he encountered fog with very 
limited visibility. He managed to get home in one piece, got out of the 
plane, kissed the ground, and sold the plane. That was that.

Not a good area for VFR. For that matter I totaled my Mustang flying low 
in the fog. I knew the road but I didn't anticipate the truck parked 
across it as he searched for his turn in the murk. 

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#90256

On 8/20/26 17:40, rbowman wrote:
> On Wed, 19 Aug 2026 23:26:44 -0400, c186282 wrote:
> 
>>     I learned to fly - license at 17 - but then an OPEC embargo drove the
>>     fuel costs beyond what I could cope with. Hell, couldn't even get the
>>     red gas, they tried 100LL but the engine valves kept sticking ... not
>>     good.
> 
> I was working on a project for fuel measurement and management. It was a
> DoD project and I was bored out of my mind so I decided to get some first
> hand experience with planes. The FBO at Middlebury VT was run by an ag
> pilot who offered instruction. It's an uncontrolled airport with one
> runway, 01/19. Typical mountain flying.
> 
> I got bored enough that I took a contract in Ft. Wayne and resumed
> instruction. The instructor was a young woman building hours. My
> impression was she was in the wrong career. The real problem was Indiana.
> I don't do well in flatland. You could land in almost  any soybean field
> in an emergency but looking out and seeing nothing out to the limit of
> visibility was spooky.
> 
> I also realized the VFR limits. I had previously worked for a company that
> was housed in the old Thurston plant that was located on an airport.
> 
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thurston_Teal

   I was good enough so they'd trust me to rent a
   plane on bad/gusty weather days and VERY minimal
   VFR days. My old instructor had TOP creds, 'nuf
   said, plus I kinda "just knew" how to fly.

   In case of extreme weirdness, had a few instances,
   even the basic instrument cluster WILL tell you
   what you need to know IF you'll focus on them and
   not what you "feel" or THINK you're seeing.

   Never got an official IFR rating, but my instructors,
   back then, DID pretty much get you there even if that
   wasn't the official program. NOW days - more wimpy.
   How DARE you put "the hood" on a newbie !!!

   Weirdest ... a ZERO ground-speed landing - just as a
   huge thunderstorm front was moving in. 50 knot gust
   just as I was coming in. HAD to bring it down, straight
   vertical, before the gust ran out. FUN ! Runway, you
   still just kinda 'fly' it in the gusts. Also caught
   the edge of a forming T-storm (FAST in my area) that
   fuckin' FLIPPED the plane. Well, worry LATER - just
   work the problem. The instruments will tell you which
   way is up and straight. Oddly did not lose much
   altitude, the updraft was THAT strong.

   Hmm, ONE day, went up and VFR turned into IFR - then
   an F-18 blew by barely 100 feet away. Could see the
   pilots face. DID post a complaint on UNICOM. You
   could not see the ground or anything, just a total
   general haze. The F-18 had fuckin' active RADAR
   though - he was fuckin' around with me.

   Anyway, if yer gonna panic, panic LATER. Meanwhile
   just Work The Problem.

> The company president decided he would take the opportunity to learn to
> fly. He did so and bought a plane since it was so convenient to park it.
> His secretary wasn't enthused by flying off to business meetings but so it
> goes. One day he went to visit a client in Kennebunk ME, a distance of
> about 20 miles. Kennebunk being where it is he encountered fog with very
> limited visibility. He managed to get home in one piece, got out of the
> plane, kissed the ground, and sold the plane. That was that.
> 
> Not a good area for VFR. For that matter I totaled my Mustang flying low
> in the fog. I knew the road but I didn't anticipate the truck parked
> across it as he searched for his turn in the murk.

   IMHO, from long-past experiences, "VFR" training SHOULD
   include pretty much everything you need for basic IFR.
   It can save yer ass. Saved mine a couple of times. The
   instruments, the instilled discipline ... guess JFK Jr.
   never GOT that level .........

   Anyway, don't fly now. A few times on little planes ALWAYS
   insisted on the right seat, just in case. DID get to very
   briefly fly a C-47 - the Cap said "fly it" while he went
   in the back to do something. Cap's word is Law.

   Pretty heavy controls - but manageable. Kinda a BIG
   FAT Cessna :-)

   MIGHT have made a fair commercial pilot. carrying FedEx
   packages (FUCK passengers !). But, went bio/biochem and
   then physical anthropology and then computers. I'm one
   of those "Wide"-Ed people. Specialization is TOO boring
   and awful and ignorant. "Big Picture" serves me best.

   But, if you wanna boost yer GPA, just take in a
   "psychology" course. Very VAGUE pseudo-science
   shit. Mostly just remember the Holy Men in the
   "science". Easy "A". Owned a PRINTER - made very
   NEAT looking papers. Added a point to the GPA
   right there !  :-)

   Anyway, STILL keep track of new Neanderthal/H.Erectus/
   Denisovan info ... know where ya CAME from to kinda
   know where yer GOING.

   Oh, NO SUCH THING as a "human". Hybrids of hybrids
   of hybrids moving all around and fucking everything
   in sight along the way :-)

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#90265

On Thu, 20 Aug 2026 23:42:12 -0400, c186282 wrote:

>    But, if you wanna boost yer GPA, just take in a "psychology" course.
>    Very VAGUE pseudo-science shit. Mostly just remember the Holy Men in
>    the "science". Easy "A". Owned a PRINTER - made very NEAT looking
>    papers. Added a point to the GPA right there !

That all depends on the flavor of psychology.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Experimental_psychology

What do you know about neurophysiology?  Given a brain can you identify 
the optic chiasm?

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#90283

On 2026-08-20 23:10, rbowman wrote:
> On Thu, 20 Aug 2026 23:42:12 -0400, c186282 wrote:
> 
>>     But, if you wanna boost yer GPA, just take in a "psychology" course.
>>     Very VAGUE pseudo-science shit. Mostly just remember the Holy Men in
>>     the "science". Easy "A". Owned a PRINTER - made very NEAT looking
>>     papers. Added a point to the GPA right there !
> 
> That all depends on the flavor of psychology.
> 
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Experimental_psychology
> 
> What do you know about neurophysiology?  Given a brain can you identify
> the optic chiasm?

Early on in my California life, several of the young programmers I 
worked with had entered the computer field through the psych department 
at UCSB.

-- 
Lars Poulsen - an old geek in Santa Barbara, California

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#90297

On Fri, 21 Aug 2026 06:01:41 -0700, Lars Poulsen wrote:

> On 2026-08-20 23:10, rbowman wrote:
>> On Thu, 20 Aug 2026 23:42:12 -0400, c186282 wrote:
>> 
>>>     But, if you wanna boost yer GPA, just take in a "psychology"
>>>     course.
>>>     Very VAGUE pseudo-science shit. Mostly just remember the Holy Men
>>>     in the "science". Easy "A". Owned a PRINTER - made very NEAT
>>>     looking papers. Added a point to the GPA right there !
>> 
>> That all depends on the flavor of psychology.
>> 
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Experimental_psychology
>> 
>> What do you know about neurophysiology?  Given a brain can you identify
>> the optic chiasm?
> 
> Early on in my California life, several of the young programmers I
> worked with had entered the computer field through the psych department
> at UCSB.

When I graduated in the '60s 'cognitive science' didn't exist as a 
discipline. I don't think the term was even invented until the '70s. Had 
it been that's where I would have wound up. 

The department head at RPI was an old school behaviorist. Other than a 
survey course what most people think of as psychology wasn't on the table. 
Most work was with rats but even in experiments involving humans measured 
physiological responses to stimuli were what was of interest, not what 
they were babbling about. 

In the '60s a 360/30 didn't have the horsepower to do a FFT in one pass 
let alone model the neural networks; it took a while to catch up. 

I still lean heavily to epiphenomenalism and nominalism. Speech evolved as 
a very handy tool but then humans used what is essentially a commentary on 
what is really happening to build castles in the sky equipped with 
unicorns and butterflies. 

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#90109

On Wed, 19 Aug 2026 04:22:04 GMT, Charlie Gibbs wrote:

> On 2026-08-19, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:
> 
>> On Tue, 18 Aug 2026 16:30:04 GMT, Charlie Gibbs wrote:
>>
>>> Back in my early skydiving days I was so spaced out by the experience
>>> that I was given the nickname "Spaceman".
>>
>> Jumping out of perfectly good airplanes...
> 
> Speaking as a jump pilot as well as a jumper... have you _seen_ some of
> those airplanes?
> 
> If not, try watching the movie "Fandango" -
> the skydiving scenes, while hilarious, are a lot closer to reality than
> you might think.

I wouldn't be surprised. I learned to fly in an elderly Lark Commander. 
The usual procedures on final included pumping the brakes up if you 
expected to stop. afaik they haven't figured out the Butler crash yet. 
That was a fairly new plane too.

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#90124

On 18/08/2026 17:30, Charlie Gibbs wrote:
> On 2026-08-18, The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> 
>> On 18/08/2026 05:55, Charlie Gibbs wrote:
>>
>>> On 2026-08-18, c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 8/17/26 05:13, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Yes. USA is being raped by its political classes...
>>>>
>>>>      Umm ... read yer history. It's ALWAYS been thus,
>>>>      USA or anywhere else. No fixing it. Send all the
>>>>      pols to Mars and the NEW ones will be doing the
>>>>      SAME things from the get-go. A "human nature" quirk.
>>>
>>>       No matter who you vote for, the government always get in.
>>>         -- The Bonzo Dog Band
>>
>> +1
>>
>> Bonzo dog DOODAH band.
> 
> Thank you.  :-)
> 
> Back in my early skydiving days I was so spaced out by
> the experience that I was given the nickname "Spaceman".
> At the time I was working for an outfit called "Urban
> Computers Ltd."  So I really _am_ the Urban Spaceman.
> 
Darling, back in the day, who wasn't?

I remember London in the 1970s too, in brief moments of lucidity

-- 
“when things get difficult you just have to lie”

― Jean Claud Jüncker

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#90157

On Wed, 19 Aug 2026 14:15:04 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

> I remember London in the 1970s too, in brief moments of lucidity

I think I have mislaid the '70s. I vaguely remember getting married and 
divorced but I would have to ask my ex when that was. She was the 
designated driver for much of our time together.

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#90172

On 2026-08-19, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:

> On Wed, 19 Aug 2026 14:15:04 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>
>> I remember London in the 1970s too, in brief moments of lucidity
>
> I think I have mislaid the '70s. I vaguely remember getting married and 
> divorced but I would have to ask my ex when that was. She was the 
> designated driver for much of our time together.

    Anyone who remembers the '60s probably wasn't there.
      -- Robin Williams (or maybe someone else)

-- 
/~\  Charlie Gibbs                  |  In this world there are
\ /  <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid>      |  two kinds of people:
 X   I'm really at ac.dekanfrus     |  1. Those who can extrapolate
/ \  if you read it the right way.  |  from incomplete data.

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#90194

On Wed, 19 Aug 2026 22:54:04 GMT, Charlie Gibbs wrote:

> On 2026-08-19, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:
> 
>> On Wed, 19 Aug 2026 14:15:04 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>>
>>> I remember London in the 1970s too, in brief moments of lucidity
>>
>> I think I have mislaid the '70s. I vaguely remember getting married and
>> divorced but I would have to ask my ex when that was. She was the
>> designated driver for much of our time together.
> 
>     Anyone who remembers the '60s probably wasn't there.
>       -- Robin Williams (or maybe someone else)

I have a slightly better grasp on the '60s. Although I lived about 100 
miles from the Woodstock festival I had a prior commitment and was on a 
plane to South Carolina the Wednesday before it kicked off. I would have 
much rather went to Woodstock. 

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#90176

On 19/08/2026 20:39, rbowman wrote:
> On Wed, 19 Aug 2026 14:15:04 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
> 
>> I remember London in the 1970s too, in brief moments of lucidity
> 
> I think I have mislaid the '70s. I vaguely remember getting married and
> divorced but I would have to ask my ex when that was. She was the
> designated driver for much of our time together.

Bravo! That is a life to be proud of..

I certainly had a lot of sex...
-- 
The lifetime of any political organisation is about three years before 
its been subverted by the people it tried to warn you about.

Anon.

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#90191

On Thu, 20 Aug 2026 01:25:23 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

> On 19/08/2026 20:39, rbowman wrote:
>> On Wed, 19 Aug 2026 14:15:04 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>> 
>>> I remember London in the 1970s too, in brief moments of lucidity
>> 
>> I think I have mislaid the '70s. I vaguely remember getting married and
>> divorced but I would have to ask my ex when that was. She was the
>> designated driver for much of our time together.
> 
> Bravo! That is a life to be proud of..
> 
> I certainly had a lot of sex...

Sex, drugs, and rock'n'roll, baby.

youtube.com/watch?v=Nu7aOan-lds

'Acid, booze, and ass
Needles, guns, and grass
Lots of laughs, lots of laughs'

Another Blue altogether:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CcR24iQa0yU

'The Wild Angels' was 1966 and kicked off the biker genre. The '69 'Easy 
Rider' is much more famous, also with Peter Fonda. Nancy Sinatra had 
fallen off the bitch pad somewhere along the way.

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#90196

On 2026-08-20, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:

> On Thu, 20 Aug 2026 01:25:23 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>
>> On 19/08/2026 20:39, rbowman wrote:
>>> On Wed, 19 Aug 2026 14:15:04 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>>> 
>>>> I remember London in the 1970s too, in brief moments of lucidity
>>> 
>>> I think I have mislaid the '70s. I vaguely remember getting married and
>>> divorced but I would have to ask my ex when that was. She was the
>>> designated driver for much of our time together.
>> 
>> Bravo! That is a life to be proud of..
>> 
>> I certainly had a lot of sex...
>
> Sex, drugs, and rock'n'roll, baby.
>
> youtube.com/watch?v=Nu7aOan-lds

Nice.  For some reason I didn't listen to that album that much;
I was busy wearing out my copy of "Ladies of the Canyon", I guess.

> 'Acid, booze, and ass
> Needles, guns, and grass
> Lots of laughs, lots of laughs'

    Marijuana, hashish, mescaline, scopolamine
    Belladonna, cocaine, chloral hydrate, ephedrine
    Psilocybin, atropine, cannabis, amphetamine
    LBJ, LSD, MDA and DMT
    Do you know what you're doing?
      -- Terry Bush

As I was digging up the above, I found out that
Terry Bush later wrote the theme to "The Littlest Hobo".

-- 
/~\  Charlie Gibbs                  |  In this world there are
\ /  <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid>      |  two kinds of people:
 X   I'm really at ac.dekanfrus     |  1. Those who can extrapolate
/ \  if you read it the right way.  |  from incomplete data.

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#90197

On Thu, 20 Aug 2026 04:40:36 GMT, Charlie Gibbs wrote:

>     Marijuana, hashish, mescaline, scopolamine
>     Belladonna, cocaine, chloral hydrate, ephedrine
>     Psilocybin, atropine, cannabis, amphetamine
>     LBJ, LSD, MDA and DMT
>     Do you know what you're doing?
>       -- Terry Bush

A-Z of ways to abuse your body & mind
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SdbaDBp1S>.

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#90198

On Thu, 20 Aug 2026 04:46:37 -0000 (UTC), I wrote:

> On Thu, 20 Aug 2026 04:40:36 GMT, Charlie Gibbs wrote:
> 
>>     Marijuana, hashish, mescaline, scopolamine
>>     Belladonna, cocaine, chloral hydrate, ephedrine
>>     Psilocybin, atropine, cannabis, amphetamine
>>     LBJ, LSD, MDA and DMT
>>     Do you know what you're doing?
>>       -- Terry Bush
> 
> A-Z of ways to abuse your body & mind
> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SdbaDBp1S>.

Typo, sorry:
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SdbaDBp1S_I>

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#90243

On Thu, 20 Aug 2026 04:40:36 GMT, Charlie Gibbs wrote:

>     Marijuana, hashish, mescaline, scopolamine Belladonna, cocaine,
>     chloral hydrate, ephedrine Psilocybin, atropine, cannabis,
>     amphetamine LBJ, LSD, MDA and DMT Do you know what you're doing?
>       -- Terry Bush

"The sporting editors had also given me $300 in cash, most of which was 
already spent on extremely dangerous drugs. The trunk of the car looked 
like a mobile police narcotics lab. We had two bags of grass, seventy-five 
pellets of mescaline, five sheets of high-powered blotter acid, a salt 
shaker half full of cocaine, and a whole galaxy of multi-colored uppers, 
downers, screamers, laughers . . . and also a quart of tequila, a quart of 
rum, a case of Budweiser, a pint of raw ether and two dozen amyls."

"The only thing that really worried me was the ether. There is nothing in 
the world more hopeless and irresponsible and depraved that a man in the 
depths of an ether binge."

Hunter Thompson

https://steemit.com/writing/@doc-gonzo/fear-and-loathing-in-las-vegas-
chapter-1-by-hunter-s-thompson

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#90247

On 2026-08-20, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:

> On Thu, 20 Aug 2026 04:40:36 GMT, Charlie Gibbs wrote:
>
>>     Marijuana, hashish, mescaline, scopolamine Belladonna, cocaine,
>>     chloral hydrate, ephedrine Psilocybin, atropine, cannabis,
>>     amphetamine LBJ, LSD, MDA and DMT Do you know what you're doing?
>>       -- Terry Bush
>
> "The sporting editors had also given me $300 in cash, most of which was 
> already spent on extremely dangerous drugs. The trunk of the car looked 
> like a mobile police narcotics lab. We had two bags of grass, seventy-five 
> pellets of mescaline, five sheets of high-powered blotter acid, a salt 
> shaker half full of cocaine, and a whole galaxy of multi-colored uppers, 
> downers, screamers, laughers . . . and also a quart of tequila, a quart of 
> rum, a case of Budweiser, a pint of raw ether and two dozen amyls."
>
> "The only thing that really worried me was the ether. There is nothing in 
> the world more hopeless and irresponsible and depraved that a man in the 
> depths of an ether binge."
>
> Hunter Thompson
>
> https://steemit.com/writing/@doc-gonzo/fear-and-loathing-in-las-vegas-
> chapter-1-by-hunter-s-thompson

Great book.  The movie was fun too - casting Johnny Depp was a good move.

My other favourite HST quote is:
"When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro."

-- 
/~\  Charlie Gibbs                  |  In this world there are
\ /  <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid>      |  two kinds of people:
 X   I'm really at ac.dekanfrus     |  1. Those who can extrapolate
/ \  if you read it the right way.  |  from incomplete data.

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#90261

On Thu, 20 Aug 2026 22:44:17 GMT, Charlie Gibbs wrote:


> Great book.  The movie was fun too - casting Johnny Depp was a good
> move.
> 
> My other favourite HST quote is:
> "When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro."

I first encountereed Thompson in "Hell's Angels". He became progressively 
stranger. I liked his 'Rolling Stone' articles before it became 
enshitified. I guess it's still around.

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#90262

On 8/20/26 18:44, Charlie Gibbs wrote:
> On 2026-08-20, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:
> 
>> On Thu, 20 Aug 2026 04:40:36 GMT, Charlie Gibbs wrote:
>>
>>>      Marijuana, hashish, mescaline, scopolamine Belladonna, cocaine,
>>>      chloral hydrate, ephedrine Psilocybin, atropine, cannabis,
>>>      amphetamine LBJ, LSD, MDA and DMT Do you know what you're doing?
>>>        -- Terry Bush
>>
>> "The sporting editors had also given me $300 in cash, most of which was
>> already spent on extremely dangerous drugs. The trunk of the car looked
>> like a mobile police narcotics lab. We had two bags of grass, seventy-five
>> pellets of mescaline, five sheets of high-powered blotter acid, a salt
>> shaker half full of cocaine, and a whole galaxy of multi-colored uppers,
>> downers, screamers, laughers . . . and also a quart of tequila, a quart of
>> rum, a case of Budweiser, a pint of raw ether and two dozen amyls."
>>
>> "The only thing that really worried me was the ether. There is nothing in
>> the world more hopeless and irresponsible and depraved that a man in the
>> depths of an ether binge."
>>
>> Hunter Thompson
>>
>> https://steemit.com/writing/@doc-gonzo/fear-and-loathing-in-las-vegas-
>> chapter-1-by-hunter-s-thompson
> 
> Great book.  The movie was fun too - casting Johnny Depp was a good move.
> 
> My other favourite HST quote is:
> "When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro."

   One of my favorite phrases ! :-)

   Have a cousin, maybe a bit smarter, or at
   least more glib, great joker, who is
   completely into HST. He was a school-teacher.
   Must have been INTERESTING classes. HOPE
   he "corrupted" the youth :-)

   No, not 'woke' or 'fascist' or ANY of the
   modern BULLSHIT - more DEAD REAL, with a
   smile, as best as it might possibly be defined.

   I was a bit more "spectrum" - no TERMS for
   it way back when - but I still GOT him and
   we ARE kinda on the same plane. Just can't
   pour it out like he does.

   He now kinda looks like a 60s old Hippy-
   Dippy - huge beard, odd clothes, really
   odd quasi-Jeff-Bridges kinda guy. Great :-)
   Much more glib than I am - kinda jealous.

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#90258

On 8/20/26 17:46, rbowman wrote:
> On Thu, 20 Aug 2026 04:40:36 GMT, Charlie Gibbs wrote:
> 
>>      Marijuana, hashish, mescaline, scopolamine Belladonna, cocaine,
>>      chloral hydrate, ephedrine Psilocybin, atropine, cannabis,
>>      amphetamine LBJ, LSD, MDA and DMT Do you know what you're doing?
>>        -- Terry Bush
> 
> "The sporting editors had also given me $300 in cash, most of which was
> already spent on extremely dangerous drugs. 
   SEX And DRUGS and ROCK-n-ROLL !!!

   And, amazingly, almost everybody SURVIVED
   the 60s/70s :-)

   Guy laid some good blotter on me at about
   age 10 or maybe 11. Lucky I split it, but
   NOT disappointed  :-)

   Later, the Natives know about some WEIRD
   shit found under rocks. Rad experience.
   Rad environments, 14000 foot mountain in
   a thunderstorm, you see "The Gods". Thought
   it was funny.

   Sorry, just not much into "theisms".

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