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Re: Manipulating C code at the AST level, in C Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-14 12:26 +0100
Re: Manipulating C code at the AST level, in C Geoff Clare <geoff@clare.See-My-Signature.invalid> - 2026-08-14 13:53 +0100
Re: Manipulating C code at the AST level, in C Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-08-14 21:10 +0000
Re: Manipulating C code at the AST level, in C scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-08-14 16:00 +0000
Re: Manipulating C code at the AST level, in C c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-14 23:47 -0400
Re: Manipulating C code at the AST level, in C rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-15 07:20 +0000
Re: Manipulating C code at the AST level, in C The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-15 11:33 +0100
Re: Manipulating C code at the AST level, in C c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-15 22:41 -0400
Re: Manipulating C code at the AST level, in C "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-08-16 10:50 +0200
Re: Manipulating C code at the AST level, in C rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-16 19:04 +0000
Re: Manipulating C code at the AST level, in C Jim Jackson <jj@franjam.org.uk> - 2026-08-15 11:07 +0000
Re: Manipulating C code at the AST level, in C The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-15 12:18 +0100
Re: Manipulating C code at the AST level, in C Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-15 12:20 +0100
Re: Manipulating C code at the AST level, in C c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-16 02:09 -0400
Re: Manipulating C code at the AST level, in C Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-16 09:59 +0100
Re: Manipulating C code at the AST level, in C The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-16 11:42 +0100
Re: Manipulating C code at the AST level, in C c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-17 00:02 -0400
Re: Manipulating C code at the AST level, in C rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-17 07:10 +0000
Re: Manipulating C code at the AST level, in C Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-17 09:32 +0100
Re: Manipulating C code at the AST level, in C The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-17 10:13 +0100
Re: Manipulating C code at the AST level, in C rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-17 17:15 +0000
Re: Manipulating C code at the AST level, in C The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-17 20:58 +0100
Re: Manipulating C code at the AST level, in C c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-17 22:24 -0400
Re: Manipulating C code at the AST level, in C Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-08-18 04:55 +0000
Re: Manipulating C code at the AST level, in C rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-18 06:17 +0000
Re: Manipulating C code at the AST level, in C c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-18 22:11 -0400
Re: Manipulating C code at the AST level, in C rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-19 04:21 +0000
Re: Manipulating C code at the AST level, in C c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-19 02:26 -0400
Re: Manipulating C code at the AST level, in C The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-19 14:29 +0100
Re: Manipulating C code at the AST level, in C rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-19 19:36 +0000
Re: Manipulating C code at the AST level, in C The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-19 14:28 +0100
Re: Manipulating C code at the AST level, in C The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-19 14:24 +0100
Re: Manipulating C code at the AST level, in C The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-18 10:19 +0100
Re: Manipulating C code at the AST level, in C Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-08-18 16:30 +0000
Re: Manipulating C code at the AST level, in C rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-19 04:11 +0000
Re: Manipulating C code at the AST level, in C Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-08-19 04:22 +0000
Re: Manipulating C code at the AST level, in C Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-08-19 04:38 +0000
Re: Manipulating C code at the AST level, in C Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-08-19 05:34 +0000
Re: Manipulating C code at the AST level, in C rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-19 06:39 +0000
Re: Manipulating C code at the AST level, in C Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-08-19 07:04 +0000
Re: Manipulating C code at the AST level, in C rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-19 19:59 +0000
Re: Manipulating C code at the AST level, in C The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-20 01:31 +0100
Re: Manipulating C code at the AST level, in C rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-20 03:26 +0000
Re: Manipulating C code at the AST level, in C Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-08-20 04:02 +0000
Re: Manipulating C code at the AST level, in C rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-19 06:35 +0000
Re: Manipulating C code at the AST level, in C The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-19 14:31 +0100
Re: Manipulating C code at the AST level, in C rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-19 19:47 +0000
Re: Manipulating C code at the AST level, in C c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-19 02:28 -0400
Re: Manipulating C code at the AST level, in C Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-08-19 16:57 +0000
Re: Manipulating C code at the AST level, in C rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-19 22:17 +0000
Re: Manipulating C code at the AST level, in C The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-20 01:34 +0100
Re: Manipulating C code at the AST level, in C rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-20 03:45 +0000
Re: Manipulating C code at the AST level, in C c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-19 23:26 -0400
Re: Manipulating C code at the AST level, in C rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-19 06:30 +0000
Re: Manipulating C code at the AST level, in C The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-19 14:15 +0100
Re: Manipulating C code at the AST level, in C rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-19 19:39 +0000
Re: Manipulating C code at the AST level, in C Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-08-19 22:54 +0000
Re: Manipulating C code at the AST level, in C rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-20 04:03 +0000
Re: Manipulating C code at the AST level, in C The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-20 01:25 +0100
Re: Manipulating C code at the AST level, in C rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-20 03:56 +0000
Re: Manipulating C code at the AST level, in C Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-08-20 04:40 +0000
Re: Manipulating C code at the AST level, in C Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-08-20 04:46 +0000
Re: Manipulating C code at the AST level, in C Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-08-20 04:59 +0000
Re: Manipulating C code at the AST level, in C rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-16 19:13 +0000
Re: Manipulating C code at the AST level, in C c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-17 01:14 -0400
Re: Manipulating C code at the AST level, in C Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-08-17 16:58 +0000
Re: Manipulating C code at the AST level, in C Geoff Clare <geoff@clare.See-My-Signature.invalid> - 2026-08-17 13:44 +0100
Re: Manipulating C code at the AST level, in C The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-17 15:31 +0100
Re: Manipulating C code at the AST level, in C Geoff Clare <geoff@clare.See-My-Signature.invalid> - 2026-08-18 13:23 +0100
Re: Manipulating C code at the AST level, in C The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-18 17:16 +0100
Re: Manipulating C code at the AST level, in C Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-17 20:27 +0100
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2026-08-19 19:59 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <nemg9eFpub2U11@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #90113 |
On Wed, 19 Aug 2026 07:04:06 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote: > On Wed, 19 Aug 2026 05:34:16 GMT, Charlie Gibbs wrote: > >> On 2026-08-19, Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote: >> >>> On Wed, 19 Aug 2026 04:22:04 GMT, Charlie Gibbs wrote: >>> >>>> Speaking as a jump pilot as well as a jumper... have you _seen_ >>>> some of those airplanes? >>> >>> I understand a lot of them are purpose-built, by a company based in >>> the same 🇳🇿 city where I live. >> >> It's not a very big market. But a good old Cessna 182 fills the bill >> for small loads. For larger loads jumpers will eagerly go in anything >> that you can take the door off of or open in flight. The Pilatus Porter >> is popular, as is the King Air or Twin Otter for larger loads. Not to >> mention the venerable antiques like the Beech 18 or DC-3. > > I think this <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PAC_P-750_XSTOL> is the one > I’m thinking of. Yeah, that's the one that fell down and went boom in June. It isn't the first time that model forgot how to fly. Apparently popular in North Korea.
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| From | The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-08-20 01:31 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <1165hsq$33bfm$3@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #90159 |
On 19/08/2026 20:59, rbowman wrote: > On Wed, 19 Aug 2026 07:04:06 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote: > >> On Wed, 19 Aug 2026 05:34:16 GMT, Charlie Gibbs wrote: >> >>> On 2026-08-19, Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote: >>> >>>> On Wed, 19 Aug 2026 04:22:04 GMT, Charlie Gibbs wrote: >>>> >>>>> Speaking as a jump pilot as well as a jumper... have you _seen_ >>>>> some of those airplanes? >>>> >>>> I understand a lot of them are purpose-built, by a company based in >>>> the same 🇳🇿 city where I live. >>> >>> It's not a very big market. But a good old Cessna 182 fills the bill >>> for small loads. For larger loads jumpers will eagerly go in anything >>> that you can take the door off of or open in flight. The Pilatus Porter >>> is popular, as is the King Air or Twin Otter for larger loads. Not to >>> mention the venerable antiques like the Beech 18 or DC-3. >> >> I think this <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PAC_P-750_XSTOL> is the one >> I’m thinking of. > > Yeah, that's the one that fell down and went boom in June. It isn't the > first time that model forgot how to fly. Apparently popular in North > Korea. Pilot took it off and stalled it, Maybe 11 skydivers with full packs was outside its weight and balance limits. I've crashed more than one model plane that was unflyable with a too rearward CofG -- New Socialism consists essentially in being seen to have your heart in the right place whilst your head is in the clouds and your hand is in someone else's pocket.
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2026-08-20 03:26 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <nenafjFpub2U25@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #90177 |
On Thu, 20 Aug 2026 01:31:22 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote: > Pilot took it off and stalled it, Maybe 11 skydivers with full packs was > outside its weight and balance limits. The reported behavior doesn't sound like a stall.
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| From | Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-08-20 04:02 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <M%uhS.11155$oxY4.8243@fx09.iad> |
| In reply to | #90177 |
On 2026-08-20, The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote: > On 19/08/2026 20:59, rbowman wrote: > >> On Wed, 19 Aug 2026 07:04:06 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote: >> >>> I think this <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PAC_P-750_XSTOL> is the one >>> I’m thinking of. >> >> Yeah, that's the one that fell down and went boom in June. It isn't the >> first time that model forgot how to fly. Apparently popular in North >> Korea. > > Pilot took it off and stalled it, Maybe 11 skydivers with full packs was > outside its weight and balance limits. > > I've crashed more than one model plane that was unflyable with a too > rearward CofG Jumpers want to get out as quickly as possible, because a split second delay getting out the door means a long way to catch up in free fall. Hence there's usually a lot of crowding around the aft door on jump run, and if you're not careful it's easy to put the C of G past the aft limit. There have been some pretty spectacular accidents (with multiple fatalities) from this over the years. On the other hand, this one doesn't sound like your typical stall. As with any other aviation accident, you just have to find the patience to wait until the investigators have done their job. -- /~\ Charlie Gibbs | In this world there are \ / <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> | two kinds of people: X I'm really at ac.dekanfrus | 1. Those who can extrapolate / \ if you read it the right way. | from incomplete data.
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2026-08-19 06:35 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <nel15uFe0jfU18@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #90100 |
On Wed, 19 Aug 2026 04:38:44 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote: > On Wed, 19 Aug 2026 04:22:04 GMT, Charlie Gibbs wrote: > >> Speaking as a jump pilot as well as a jumper... have you _seen_ some of >> those airplanes? > > I understand a lot of them are purpose-built, by a company based in the > same 🇳🇿 city where I live. The June 14th crash in Butler Missouri where the pilot and 11 skydivers died was a Pacific Aerospace 750XL. The NTSB hasn't found an obvious problem. It started banking left on the climb out until the wings were vertical to the ground.
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| From | The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-08-19 14:31 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <1164b7f$2le0s$11@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #90110 |
On 19/08/2026 07:35, rbowman wrote: > On Wed, 19 Aug 2026 04:38:44 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote: > >> On Wed, 19 Aug 2026 04:22:04 GMT, Charlie Gibbs wrote: >> >>> Speaking as a jump pilot as well as a jumper... have you _seen_ some of >>> those airplanes? >> >> I understand a lot of them are purpose-built, by a company based in the >> same 🇳🇿 city where I live. > > The June 14th crash in Butler Missouri where the pilot and 11 skydivers > died was a Pacific Aerospace 750XL. The NTSB hasn't found an obvious > problem. It started banking left on the climb out until the wings were > vertical to the ground. Stuck controls? Pilot tired of life? -- Socialism is the philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance and the gospel of envy. Its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery. Winston Churchill
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2026-08-19 19:47 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <nemfjeFpub2U10@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #90129 |
On Wed, 19 Aug 2026 14:31:27 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote: > On 19/08/2026 07:35, rbowman wrote: >> On Wed, 19 Aug 2026 04:38:44 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote: >> >>> On Wed, 19 Aug 2026 04:22:04 GMT, Charlie Gibbs wrote: >>> >>>> Speaking as a jump pilot as well as a jumper... have you _seen_ some >>>> of those airplanes? >>> >>> I understand a lot of them are purpose-built, by a company based in >>> the same 🇳🇿 city where I live. >> >> The June 14th crash in Butler Missouri where the pilot and 11 skydivers >> died was a Pacific Aerospace 750XL. The NTSB hasn't found an obvious >> problem. It started banking left on the climb out until the wings were >> vertical to the ground. > > Stuck controls? > Pilot tired of life? The NTSB so far says they haven't found a mechanical problem. The pilot had over 4000 hours and wasn't on anybody's radar as a nutter, He'd flown two jumps earlier in the day. When it comes to the NTSB the mills of the gods grind exceedingly slow.
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| From | c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> |
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| Date | 2026-08-19 02:28 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <_46cnQMXs59s0Rj3nZ2dnZfqn_SdnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #90098 |
On 8/19/26 00:22, Charlie Gibbs wrote: > On 2026-08-19, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote: > >> On Tue, 18 Aug 2026 16:30:04 GMT, Charlie Gibbs wrote: >> >>> Back in my early skydiving days I was so spaced out by the experience >>> that I was given the nickname "Spaceman". >> >> Jumping out of perfectly good airplanes... > > Speaking as a jump pilot as well as a jumper... > have you _seen_ some of those airplanes? > > If not, try watching the movie "Fandango" - > the skydiving scenes, while hilarious, are > a lot closer to reality than you might think. Never seen it. Also would never intentionally jump out of a perfectly good plane.
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| From | Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-08-19 16:57 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <pglhS.2464$5X3e.1395@fx01.iad> |
| In reply to | #90108 |
On 2026-08-19, c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> wrote:
> On 8/19/26 00:22, Charlie Gibbs wrote:
>
>> On 2026-08-19, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Tue, 18 Aug 2026 16:30:04 GMT, Charlie Gibbs wrote:
>>>
>>>> Back in my early skydiving days I was so spaced out by the experience
>>>> that I was given the nickname "Spaceman".
>>>
>>> Jumping out of perfectly good airplanes...
>>
>> Speaking as a jump pilot as well as a jumper...
>> have you _seen_ some of those airplanes?
>>
>> If not, try watching the movie "Fandango" -
>> the skydiving scenes, while hilarious, are
>> a lot closer to reality than you might think.
>
> Never seen it.
>
> Also would never intentionally jump out
> of a perfectly good plane.
As I would tell people:
If you haven't tried it, no explanation is possible.
If you have, none is necessary.
Man small.
Why fall?
Skies call.
That's all.
-- Andy Keech
--
/~\ Charlie Gibbs | In this world there are
\ / <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> | two kinds of people:
X I'm really at ac.dekanfrus | 1. Those who can extrapolate
/ \ if you read it the right way. | from incomplete data.
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2026-08-19 22:17 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <nemockFpub2U23@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #90149 |
On Wed, 19 Aug 2026 16:57:57 GMT, Charlie Gibbs wrote: > As I would tell people: > If you haven't tried it, no explanation is possible. > If you have, none is necessary. When I was a kid the arsenal had an open house and set up sort of a jump tower. It was more like a zip line. They would strap you into the harness and boot you off the edge. That was enough of that for me. I enjoyed learning to fly but I never was very comfortable driving the plane let alone jumping out of it. I know the statistics but I'll stick to bikes if I want the wind in my face.
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| From | The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-08-20 01:34 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <1165i3c$33bfm$4@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #90169 |
On 19/08/2026 23:17, rbowman wrote: > On Wed, 19 Aug 2026 16:57:57 GMT, Charlie Gibbs wrote: > >> As I would tell people: >> If you haven't tried it, no explanation is possible. >> If you have, none is necessary. > > When I was a kid the arsenal had an open house and set up sort of a jump > tower. It was more like a zip line. They would strap you into the harness > and boot you off the edge. That was enough of that for me. > Abseiling off a 100ft viaduct was more than enough for me > I enjoyed learning to fly but I never was very comfortable driving the > plane let alone jumping out of it. I know the statistics but I'll stick to > bikes if I want the wind in my face. > Well I preferred 4 wheels. I think one of the best experiences was driving a go-kart on slicks around Brands Hatch short circuit in the pouring rain. There is a sort of stream that runs across the tack and one point... -- Microsoft : the best reason to go to Linux that ever existed.
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2026-08-20 03:45 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <nenbi4Fpub2U26@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #90178 |
On Thu, 20 Aug 2026 01:34:52 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote: > Well I preferred 4 wheels. I had my moments in my misbegotten youth with an AH Sprite. Fun little scooter although under-powered with brakes to match. It was a '62 during the transition from the bugeye, so it had the slightly larger engine but the bugeye's inadequate drum brakes. It wasn't that great a problem since it could barely do 80 with a tailwind. You did get plenty of fresh air since if it started to rain you had to assemble the top from bits and pieces in the trunk (boot). Usually I just drove on; you were going to get soaked either way. I only saw it while passing today so it might had been a replica but there was a pristine looking MG TD at a shop that specializes in old Beetles. Classy looking although even slower than a Midget/Sprite.
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| From | c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> |
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| Date | 2026-08-19 23:26 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <7_CcnWPL6eNP7hv3nZ2dnZfqnPednZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #90169 |
On 8/19/26 18:17, rbowman wrote: > On Wed, 19 Aug 2026 16:57:57 GMT, Charlie Gibbs wrote: > >> As I would tell people: >> If you haven't tried it, no explanation is possible. >> If you have, none is necessary. > > When I was a kid the arsenal had an open house and set up sort of a jump > tower. It was more like a zip line. They would strap you into the harness > and boot you off the edge. That was enough of that for me. > > I enjoyed learning to fly but I never was very comfortable driving the > plane let alone jumping out of it. I know the statistics but I'll stick to > bikes if I want the wind in my face. I learned to fly - license at 17 - but then an OPEC embargo drove the fuel costs beyond what I could cope with. Hell, couldn't even get the red gas, they tried 100LL but the engine valves kept sticking ... not good. So, motorcycles instead :-)
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2026-08-19 06:30 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <nel0sgFe0jfU17@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #90098 |
On Wed, 19 Aug 2026 04:22:04 GMT, Charlie Gibbs wrote: > On 2026-08-19, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote: > >> On Tue, 18 Aug 2026 16:30:04 GMT, Charlie Gibbs wrote: >> >>> Back in my early skydiving days I was so spaced out by the experience >>> that I was given the nickname "Spaceman". >> >> Jumping out of perfectly good airplanes... > > Speaking as a jump pilot as well as a jumper... have you _seen_ some of > those airplanes? > > If not, try watching the movie "Fandango" - > the skydiving scenes, while hilarious, are a lot closer to reality than > you might think. I wouldn't be surprised. I learned to fly in an elderly Lark Commander. The usual procedures on final included pumping the brakes up if you expected to stop. afaik they haven't figured out the Butler crash yet. That was a fairly new plane too.
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| From | The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-08-19 14:15 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <1164a8o$2le0s$7@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #90073 |
On 18/08/2026 17:30, Charlie Gibbs wrote: > On 2026-08-18, The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote: > >> On 18/08/2026 05:55, Charlie Gibbs wrote: >> >>> On 2026-08-18, c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> wrote: >>> >>>> On 8/17/26 05:13, The Natural Philosopher wrote: >>>> >>>>> Yes. USA is being raped by its political classes... >>>> >>>> Umm ... read yer history. It's ALWAYS been thus, >>>> USA or anywhere else. No fixing it. Send all the >>>> pols to Mars and the NEW ones will be doing the >>>> SAME things from the get-go. A "human nature" quirk. >>> >>> No matter who you vote for, the government always get in. >>> -- The Bonzo Dog Band >> >> +1 >> >> Bonzo dog DOODAH band. > > Thank you. :-) > > Back in my early skydiving days I was so spaced out by > the experience that I was given the nickname "Spaceman". > At the time I was working for an outfit called "Urban > Computers Ltd." So I really _am_ the Urban Spaceman. > Darling, back in the day, who wasn't? I remember London in the 1970s too, in brief moments of lucidity -- “when things get difficult you just have to lie” ― Jean Claud Jüncker
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2026-08-19 19:39 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <nemf42Fpub2U9@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #90124 |
On Wed, 19 Aug 2026 14:15:04 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote: > I remember London in the 1970s too, in brief moments of lucidity I think I have mislaid the '70s. I vaguely remember getting married and divorced but I would have to ask my ex when that was. She was the designated driver for much of our time together.
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| From | Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-08-19 22:54 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <guqhS.48258$9DC1.20658@fx18.iad> |
| In reply to | #90157 |
On 2026-08-19, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:
> On Wed, 19 Aug 2026 14:15:04 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>
>> I remember London in the 1970s too, in brief moments of lucidity
>
> I think I have mislaid the '70s. I vaguely remember getting married and
> divorced but I would have to ask my ex when that was. She was the
> designated driver for much of our time together.
Anyone who remembers the '60s probably wasn't there.
-- Robin Williams (or maybe someone else)
--
/~\ Charlie Gibbs | In this world there are
\ / <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> | two kinds of people:
X I'm really at ac.dekanfrus | 1. Those who can extrapolate
/ \ if you read it the right way. | from incomplete data.
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2026-08-20 04:03 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <nencjoFpub2U28@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #90172 |
On Wed, 19 Aug 2026 22:54:04 GMT, Charlie Gibbs wrote: > On 2026-08-19, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote: > >> On Wed, 19 Aug 2026 14:15:04 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote: >> >>> I remember London in the 1970s too, in brief moments of lucidity >> >> I think I have mislaid the '70s. I vaguely remember getting married and >> divorced but I would have to ask my ex when that was. She was the >> designated driver for much of our time together. > > Anyone who remembers the '60s probably wasn't there. > -- Robin Williams (or maybe someone else) I have a slightly better grasp on the '60s. Although I lived about 100 miles from the Woodstock festival I had a prior commitment and was on a plane to South Carolina the Wednesday before it kicked off. I would have much rather went to Woodstock.
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| From | The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-08-20 01:25 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <1165hhj$33bfm$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #90157 |
On 19/08/2026 20:39, rbowman wrote: > On Wed, 19 Aug 2026 14:15:04 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote: > >> I remember London in the 1970s too, in brief moments of lucidity > > I think I have mislaid the '70s. I vaguely remember getting married and > divorced but I would have to ask my ex when that was. She was the > designated driver for much of our time together. Bravo! That is a life to be proud of.. I certainly had a lot of sex... -- The lifetime of any political organisation is about three years before its been subverted by the people it tried to warn you about. Anon.
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2026-08-20 03:56 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <nenc7oFpub2U27@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #90176 |
On Thu, 20 Aug 2026 01:25:23 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote: > On 19/08/2026 20:39, rbowman wrote: >> On Wed, 19 Aug 2026 14:15:04 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote: >> >>> I remember London in the 1970s too, in brief moments of lucidity >> >> I think I have mislaid the '70s. I vaguely remember getting married and >> divorced but I would have to ask my ex when that was. She was the >> designated driver for much of our time together. > > Bravo! That is a life to be proud of.. > > I certainly had a lot of sex... Sex, drugs, and rock'n'roll, baby. youtube.com/watch?v=Nu7aOan-lds 'Acid, booze, and ass Needles, guns, and grass Lots of laughs, lots of laughs' Another Blue altogether: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CcR24iQa0yU 'The Wild Angels' was 1966 and kicked off the biker genre. The '69 'Easy Rider' is much more famous, also with Peter Fonda. Nancy Sinatra had fallen off the bitch pad somewhere along the way.
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