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The best Wi-Fi upgrade I made wasn't a new router, it was moving one piece of furniture

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First post2026-08-14 23:33 +0000
Last post2026-08-18 02:48 +0000
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  The best Wi-Fi upgrade I made wasn't a new router, it was moving one piece of furniture rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-14 23:33 +0000
    Re: The best Wi-Fi upgrade I made wasn't a new router, it was moving one piece of furniture c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-14 21:35 -0400
      Re: The best Wi-Fi upgrade I made wasn't a new router, it was moving one piece of furniture Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> - 2026-08-15 07:13 -0700
        Re: The best Wi-Fi upgrade I made wasn't a new router, it was moving one piece of furniture c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-16 02:14 -0400
          Re: The best Wi-Fi upgrade I made wasn't a new router, it was moving one piece of furniture Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-08-17 19:26 +0000
            Re: The best Wi-Fi upgrade I made wasn't a new router, it was moving one piece of furniture The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-17 20:58 +0100
              Re: The best Wi-Fi upgrade I made wasn't a new router, it was moving one piece of furniture Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-08-17 20:47 +0000
                Re: The best Wi-Fi upgrade I made wasn't a new router, it was moving one piece of furniture Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-08-18 00:47 +0000
                  Re: The best Wi-Fi upgrade I made wasn't a new router, it was moving one piece of furniture c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-17 22:31 -0400
                    Re: The best Wi-Fi upgrade I made wasn't a new router, it was moving one piece of furniture Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-08-18 13:36 +0000
                      Re: The best Wi-Fi upgrade I made wasn't a new router, it was moving one piece of furniture The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-18 17:18 +0100
                        Re: The best Wi-Fi upgrade I made wasn't a new router, it was moving one piece of furniture Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-08-18 22:00 +0000
                          Re: The best Wi-Fi upgrade I made wasn't a new router, it was moving one piece of furniture The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-19 14:33 +0100
                        Re: The best Wi-Fi upgrade I made wasn't a new router, it was moving one piece of furniture c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-18 22:45 -0400
                          Re: The best Wi-Fi upgrade I made wasn't a new router, it was moving one piece of furniture Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-08-19 03:17 +0000
                            Re: The best Wi-Fi upgrade I made wasn't a new router, it was moving one piece of furniture c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-19 01:57 -0400
                              Re: The best Wi-Fi upgrade I made wasn't a new router, it was moving one piece of furniture rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-19 06:20 +0000
                                Re: The best Wi-Fi upgrade I made wasn't a new router, it was moving one piece of furniture c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-19 02:51 -0400
                          Re: The best Wi-Fi upgrade I made wasn't a new router, it was moving one piece of furniture rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-19 03:58 +0000
                            Re: The best Wi-Fi upgrade I made wasn't a new router, it was moving one piece of furniture c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-19 02:20 -0400
                              Re: The best Wi-Fi upgrade I made wasn't a new router, it was moving one piece of furniture rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-19 14:19 +0000
                          Re: The best Wi-Fi upgrade I made wasn't a new router, it was moving one piece of furniture The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-19 14:36 +0100
                        Re: The best Wi-Fi upgrade I made wasn't a new router, it was moving one piece of furniture rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-19 03:47 +0000
                  Re: The best Wi-Fi upgrade I made wasn't a new router, it was moving one piece of furniture rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-18 02:48 +0000

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#90142

Fromrbowman <bowman@montana.com>
Date2026-08-19 14:19 +0000
Message-ID<nelsauFpub2U5@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#90105
On Wed, 19 Aug 2026 02:20:01 -0400, c186282 wrote:

>    I think I had an Accurite. Never tried to decode its signals on a PC
>    however - never had a receiver to fit a PC. Anyway, for low speed
>    'field data' even the 400mhz zone is quite adequate and tends to get
>    around obstacles pretty well.

amazon.com/RTL-SDR-Blog-RTL2832U-Software-Defined/dp/B0BMKZCKTF

It does a lot more than pick up the Accurite signal. 

https://github.com/merbanan/rtl_433

It also can handle ADS-B, FM stations, etc, etc.  

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#90131

FromThe Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid>
Date2026-08-19 14:36 +0100
Message-ID<1164bha$2le0s$13@dont-email.me>
In reply to#90087
On 19/08/2026 03:45, c186282 wrote:
> On 8/18/26 12:18, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>> On 18/08/2026 14:36, Rich wrote:
>>> c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> wrote:
>>>> On 8/17/26 20:47, Charlie Gibbs wrote:
>>>>> On 2026-08-17, Rich <rich@example.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2.4Ghz will happily do a miles as many RC modelers have found. 
>>>>>>> Just not
>>>>>>> with trees in the way.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Living trees are quite full of lots of water, which is a very good
>>>>>> 2.4G signal absorbing medium.
>>>>>
>>>>> Good point.  There's a reason microwave ovens operate at 2.45 GHz.
>>>>
>>>>    Alas 5ghz interacts poorly with STRUCTURES.
>>>
>>> 5Ghz is much more easily absorbed by structures.  Brick and concrete
>>> are very good absorbers of 5Ghz signals.  Brick and concrete also
>>> absorb 2.4Ghz signals as well, just not to the attenuation level that
>>> 5Ghz is absorbed.
>>>
>>>>    I doubt there's a 'perfect frequency' that will
>>>>    get thru structures, veggies AND offer a good
>>>>    data rate.
>>>
>>> There is no "perfect frequency".  Ignoring FCC rules that mean you
>>> can't use every frequency anyway, if you want more penetration (less
>>> attenuation) from structures you want lower frequency.  But lower
>>> frequency comes along with lower bandwidth for data, so lower data
>>> speeds.
>>>
>> Its ironic that I could probably build a reliable data transfer for 50 
>> baud running on 27MHz
> 
>    Quite true - 'reliable', just not FAST.
> 
No, 50 baud is not fast. But when the data is only 50 bytes to so  every 
other hour it is more than enough


>> The best way is to wire the house with CAT 5
> 
>    CAT 6+ these days !!!
> 
Well yes if you want 10 gigabits and a range less than a room width

No. Cat 5e is better for whole house coverage and 1Gbbps



> 

-- 
The lifetime of any political organisation is about three years before 
its been subverted by the people it tried to warn you about.

Anon.

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#90093

Fromrbowman <bowman@montana.com>
Date2026-08-19 03:47 +0000
Message-ID<neknb6Fe0jfU11@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#90069
On Tue, 18 Aug 2026 17:18:37 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

> Its ironic that I could probably build a reliable data transfer for 50
> baud running on 27MHz

I never did anything with the HF digital modes but I did play around with 
2M packet radio at a blazing 1200 baud. Some areas did have 9600 baud but 
there wasn't that much interest in the local club. To be more precise, 
when the topic of packet came up there was a groan from most of the 
members. This was before cheap cellphones so they were mostly using 2M 
handi-talkies as cheap phones. 

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#90014

Fromrbowman <bowman@montana.com>
Date2026-08-18 02:48 +0000
Message-ID<nehvfaFpk4lU40@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#90007
On Tue, 18 Aug 2026 00:47:08 GMT, Charlie Gibbs wrote:

> On 2026-08-17, Rich <rich@example.invalid> wrote:
> 
>> The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>
>>> 2.4Ghz will happily do a miles as many RC modelers have found. Just
>>> not with trees in the way.
>>
>> Living trees are quite full of lots of water, which is a very good 2.4G
>> signal absorbing medium.
> 
> Good point.  There's a reason microwave ovens operate at 2.45 GHz.

More than one. If you only wanted to heat water the optimal frequency 
would be quite a bit higher. However that would increase the problem of 
the center of the mass not being heated very well.

The dielectric heaters I worked with were around 100 MHz and used the near 
field effect. The material was placed inside the two plates of a 
capacitor. It heats the material more uniformly but isn't practical for a 
counter top unit. 

I worked in that field before consumer microwaves were widely used but it 
didn't take long for the factory workers to discover that what could heat 
a phenolic preform worked well with pizza. We had one of the smaller units 
in engineering that was great for reviving day old pastries from the 
bakery down the street.

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