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Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon

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  Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-04 00:53 -0400
    Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2026-08-04 06:19 +0000
    Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-08-04 07:52 +0100
      Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-05 00:45 -0400
        Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-08-05 09:22 +0100
          Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-05 12:08 +0100
        Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-05 12:04 +0100
          Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-05 13:56 +0000
            Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-08-05 17:45 +0100
              Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-05 18:47 +0100
            Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-05 18:46 +0100
              Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-08-06 14:34 +0200
                Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-06 14:16 +0100
                  Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2026-08-06 20:31 +0200
                    Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-06 21:45 +0100
                    Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2026-08-07 08:45 +1000
                  Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-06 20:03 +0000
                    Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-06 21:49 +0100
                      Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-07 04:26 +0000
          Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2026-08-06 08:59 +1000
            Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-06 02:25 -0400
              Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-06 12:55 +0100
                Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-06 20:10 +0000
                  Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-06 22:02 +0100
            Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-06 12:53 +0100
              Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-06 20:13 +0000
                Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-06 22:08 +0100
                  Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-07 03:52 +0000
              Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2026-08-07 08:40 +1000
    Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-04 07:00 +0000
      Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-08-04 08:45 +0100
        Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-04 17:23 +0000
          Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-08-04 18:43 +0100
            Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-05 02:18 -0400
              Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-08-05 09:27 +0100
                Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-05 12:00 +0100
            Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-05 11:56 +0100
          Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-05 02:10 -0400
            Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-08-05 09:29 +0100
              Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-05 12:18 +0100
          Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-05 11:49 +0100
      Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-05 00:47 -0400
        Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-05 06:03 +0000
          Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-05 03:34 -0400
          Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-05 12:17 +0100
        Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-05 12:10 +0100
    Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-04 11:24 +0100
      Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-04 17:30 +0000
        Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-05 02:14 -0400
        Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-05 11:51 +0100
    Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2026-08-04 15:04 +0200
      Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-08-04 17:03 +0100
      Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-05 01:53 -0400
        Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2026-08-05 19:47 +0200
          Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-05 18:51 +0100
          Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-05 18:57 +0100
            Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2026-08-05 20:14 +0200
              Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-05 19:49 +0100
                Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2026-08-06 11:12 +0200
                  Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-06 12:15 +0100
                  Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-06 18:22 +0000
                    Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-06 21:39 +0100
                      Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-07 02:27 +0000
                  Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-06 23:37 -0400
              Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-05 22:03 +0000
                Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2026-08-06 11:03 +0200
                  Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-06 18:32 +0000
              Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-06 02:22 -0400
                Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2026-08-06 11:12 +0200
                  Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-06 12:09 +0100
                Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-06 12:57 +0100
                  Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2026-08-06 14:14 +0100
                    Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-06 14:18 +0100
                      Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon wmartin <wwm@wwmartin.net> - 2026-08-06 09:55 -0700
                      Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-06 18:48 +0000
                  Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-06 18:42 +0000
                    Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-06 21:43 +0100
                      Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-07 02:26 +0000

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#89644

Fromrbowman <bowman@montana.com>
Date2026-08-06 18:22 +0000
Message-ID<ndk1miFf88dU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#89626
On Thu, 06 Aug 2026 11:12:09 +0200, s|b wrote:

> On Wed, 5 Aug 2026 19:49:58 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
> 
>> PSUs are generic But Pi zeros are unobtanium right now, except at silly
>> money
>> 
>> I can wait. I think I have a spare one somewhere
> 
> 'unobtanium', I love it when I learn a new word/expression. If I could
> only remember it, so I can use it myself some day. (-:

The word has a long history. There is a nuance. 'Vaproware' is a product 
that is announced but doesn't exist. The prime example is when Osborne 
announced the successor to the Osborne 1, killing the sales of the 
existing product without having the replacement in hand. Intel's 432 and 
Microsoft's Xenix may fall into that category.

'Unobtanium' is a device that exists but you can't buy at the present 
time. The Zero is a current example. In the early '80s vendors were 
quoting similar lead times of over a year on commodity chips. That, in 
part, impacted IBM's PC design. 

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#89656

FromThe Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid>
Date2026-08-06 21:39 +0100
Message-ID<1152ref$501h$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#89644
On 06/08/2026 19:22, rbowman wrote:

> 'Unobtanium' is a device that exists but you can't buy at the present
> time. The Zero is a current example. In the early '80s vendors were
> quoting similar lead times of over a year on commodity chips. That, in
> part, impacted IBM's PC design.

No. Unobtanium is a substance that does NOT exist. But would solve 
massive problems if it did.

right now pi zeros do not actually exist in vendor stock.




-- 
Socialism is the philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance and the 
gospel of envy.

Its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery.

Winston Churchill

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#89673

Fromrbowman <bowman@montana.com>
Date2026-08-07 02:27 +0000
Message-ID<ndku4cFf88dU21@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#89656
On Thu, 6 Aug 2026 21:39:43 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

> On 06/08/2026 19:22, rbowman wrote:
> 
>> 'Unobtanium' is a device that exists but you can't buy at the present
>> time. The Zero is a current example. In the early '80s vendors were
>> quoting similar lead times of over a year on commodity chips. That, in
>> part, impacted IBM's PC design.
> 
> No. Unobtanium is a substance that does NOT exist. But would solve
> massive problems if it did.

Once again, I speak American. 

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#89674

Fromc186282 <c186282@nnada.net>
Date2026-08-06 23:37 -0400
Message-ID<pr-dne6NHKBxz-j3nZ2dnZfqn_idnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#89626
On 8/6/26 05:12, s|b wrote:
> On Wed, 5 Aug 2026 19:49:58 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
> 
>> PSUs are generic
>> But Pi zeros are unobtanium right now, except at silly money
>>
>> I can wait. I think I have a spare one somewhere
> 
> 'unobtanium', I love it when I learn a new word/expression. If I could
> only remember it, so I can use it myself some day. (-:
> 
> I did a quick search yesterday and found 2 Dutch and 2 Belgian stores
> that still had them in stock for under 20 euro. But those were Zero W,
> not Zero 2 W. I didn't check if they shipped internationally, probably
> not, so they're of no use to many people here.

   I managed to score two of them, 2Ws, but the price
   went up $25 USD between buying the first and second -
   just a few weeks diff.

   Don't even see the one with the pre-soldered pins
   anymore. The more expensive one CAME with pins, but
   you have to solder them on yourself.

   Today - "CanaKit" Pi5 at $259. Was less than half
   that 18 months ago. "Kit" (box + a few options)
   from various makers running $354 to $209. The
   higher RAM versions seem especially affected
   since basically all memory-makers shifted
   production to "AI"-friendly stuff.

   How are we supposed to use "AI" when we can't
   even afford, FIND, laptops and such because
   there's no damned MEMORY ???

   The tariff shit is PARTIALLY responsible, but
   frankly the "AI" angle seems even WORSE.

   Two years ago I was able to buy complete mini-box
   PCs (BeeLink, BMax) for $250 and they had good
   specs. Have several in various roles. But NOW ...

   Note PI4 kits ... which in some respects I like
   better (max speed and gizmos ain't everything) ...
   are about $100 less. So, if you want PI, consider
   the 4s right now. They're good enough to stream
   2k, sometimes 4k, video.

   "Bare" - Amazon has a an 2gb Pi4 for $86. Alas
   the 4gb are hardly seen and 8gb ones not at all.

   Folks, this is A PROBLEM.

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#89616

Fromrbowman <bowman@montana.com>
Date2026-08-05 22:03 +0000
Message-ID<ndhq98F8voU7@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#89610
On Wed, 05 Aug 2026 20:14:34 +0200, s|b wrote:

> That's what I said. They expect to have new ones by Oct 2026, but who
> knows? (There's a button to get a notification when they're available
> again.)

DigiKey isn't that optimistic. They're saying sometime next year.

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#89625

From"s|b" <me@privacy.invalid>
Date2026-08-06 11:03 +0200
Message-ID<ndj0vlFab94U2@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#89616
On 5 Aug 2026 22:03:21 GMT, rbowman wrote:

> On Wed, 05 Aug 2026 20:14:34 +0200, s|b wrote:
> 
> > That's what I said. They expect to have new ones by Oct 2026, but who
> > knows? (There's a button to get a notification when they're available
> > again.)
 
> DigiKey isn't that optimistic. They're saying sometime next year.

Yesterday, I did a quick search for Raspberry Pi Zero and found 2 Dutch
and 2 Belgian stores who still had them in stock and sold them under 20
euro. Just saying...

-- 
s|b

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#89646

Fromrbowman <bowman@montana.com>
Date2026-08-06 18:32 +0000
Message-ID<ndk296Ff88dU2@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#89625
On Thu, 06 Aug 2026 11:03:57 +0200, s|b wrote:

> On 5 Aug 2026 22:03:21 GMT, rbowman wrote:
> 
>> On Wed, 05 Aug 2026 20:14:34 +0200, s|b wrote:
>> 
>> > That's what I said. They expect to have new ones by Oct 2026, but who
>> > knows? (There's a button to get a notification when they're available
>> > again.)
>  
>> DigiKey isn't that optimistic. They're saying sometime next year.
> 
> Yesterday, I did a quick search for Raspberry Pi Zero and found 2 Dutch
> and 2 Belgian stores who still had them in stock and sold them under 20
> euro. Just saying...

Perhaps the Dutch are more ethical. Obama's election triggered panic 
buying of ammunition that resulted in bare shelves. Many vendors 
maintained the current price but quickly exhausted their stock. One 
vendors which had been known as a cheap source had stock but raised prices 
almost hourly. When the market normalized many remembered the vendor who 
used the 'whatever the market will bear' philosophy. 

The extremely overpriced vendors on Amazon have an advantage. Next year 
they can return with a brand new name. I did note a new Amazon feature, a 
'high price alert' that suggested you might search a little further. The 
'price history' graph is also useful.

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#89622

Fromc186282 <c186282@nnada.net>
Date2026-08-06 02:22 -0400
Message-ID<H4mdneOmp715uun3nZ2dnZfqn_GdnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#89610
On 8/5/26 14:14, s|b wrote:
> On Wed, 5 Aug 2026 18:57:11 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
> 
>> On 05/08/2026 18:47, s|b wrote:
>>
>> € 13,99 ex VAT
> 
> That's what the site says, but the price you pay would be VAT included.
> AFAIK only business owners can buy ex VAT (in a Dutch shop).
>   
>> And out of stock
> 
> That's what I said. They expect to have new ones by Oct 2026, but who
> knows? (There's a button to get a notification when they're available
> again.)
>   
>> The point is almost NO one has Pi zeros AT ALL right now. The price is
>> irrelevant
> 
> The OP is about the price, so I tend to disagree. I did however forgot 2
> things: tariffs and the power supply. That would have to be bought in
> the US. I have no clue what effect tariffs would have since Drumpf
> changes his mind like every 5 minutes on this.

   Hey, was JUST SAYIN' ... the ridiculous price
   was what I saw on US Amazon the other day.

   Pi0s were supposed to be DIRT CHEAP - now
   they're "exotic", EXPENSIVE, tech. This is
   not all 'tariffs' either. Pi stuff was always
   way over-priced if you bought it in the USA.

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#89627

From"s|b" <me@privacy.invalid>
Date2026-08-06 11:12 +0200
Message-ID<ndj1foFagvfU2@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#89622
On Thu, 6 Aug 2026 02:22:11 -0400, c186282 wrote:

>    Hey, was JUST SAYIN' ... the ridiculous price
>    was what I saw on US Amazon the other day.
> 
>    Pi0s were supposed to be DIRT CHEAP - now
>    they're "exotic", EXPENSIVE, tech. This is
>    not all 'tariffs' either. Pi stuff was always
>    way over-priced if you bought it in the USA.

Point taken.

-- 
s|b

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#89628

FromThe Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid>
Date2026-08-06 12:09 +0100
Message-ID<1151q1e$3p218$6@dont-email.me>
In reply to#89627
On 06/08/2026 10:12, s|b wrote:
> On Thu, 6 Aug 2026 02:22:11 -0400, c186282 wrote:
> 
>>     Hey, was JUST SAYIN' ... the ridiculous price
>>     was what I saw on US Amazon the other day.
>>
>>     Pi0s were supposed to be DIRT CHEAP - now
>>     they're "exotic", EXPENSIVE, tech. This is
>>     not all 'tariffs' either. Pi stuff was always
>>     way over-priced if you bought it in the USA.
> 
> Point taken.
> 
It's not overpriced now,. It's simply unobtainable

-- 
There is nothing a fleet of dispatchable nuclear power plants cannot do 
that cannot be done worse and more expensively and with higher carbon 
emissions and more adverse environmental impact by adding intermittent 
renewable energy.

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#89636

FromThe Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid>
Date2026-08-06 12:57 +0100
Message-ID<1151srq$3p218$14@dont-email.me>
In reply to#89622
On 06/08/2026 07:22, c186282 wrote:
> On 8/5/26 14:14, s|b wrote:
>> On Wed, 5 Aug 2026 18:57:11 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>>
>>> On 05/08/2026 18:47, s|b wrote:
>>>
>>> € 13,99 ex VAT
>>
>> That's what the site says, but the price you pay would be VAT included.
>> AFAIK only business owners can buy ex VAT (in a Dutch shop).
>>> And out of stock
>>
>> That's what I said. They expect to have new ones by Oct 2026, but who
>> knows? (There's a button to get a notification when they're available
>> again.)
>>> The point is almost NO one has Pi zeros AT ALL right now. The price is
>>> irrelevant
>>
>> The OP is about the price, so I tend to disagree. I did however forgot 2
>> things: tariffs and the power supply. That would have to be bought in
>> the US. I have no clue what effect tariffs would have since Drumpf
>> changes his mind like every 5 minutes on this.
> 
>    Hey, was JUST SAYIN' ... the ridiculous price
>    was what I saw on US Amazon the other day.
> 
>    Pi0s were supposed to be DIRT CHEAP - now
>    they're "exotic", EXPENSIVE, tech.

No. They are just in very short supply

>   This is
>    not all 'tariffs' either. Pi stuff was always
>    way over-priced if you bought it in the USA.
> 
Then buy it direct from the UK!

I was in Boston on business a short time after my house got burgled and 
my CD collection stolen. I filled my suitcase with replacement CDs at 
2/3rd the price of the UK...


-- 
The lifetime of any political organisation is about three years before 
its been subverted by the people it tried to warn you about.

Anon.

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#89640

FromTheo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk>
Date2026-08-06 14:14 +0100
Message-ID<dWd*WisNA@news.chiark.greenend.org.uk>
In reply to#89636
In comp.sys.raspberry-pi The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> On 06/08/2026 07:22, c186282 wrote:
> > 
> >    Hey, was JUST SAYIN' ... the ridiculous price
> >    was what I saw on US Amazon the other day.
> > 
> >    Pi0s were supposed to be DIRT CHEAP - now
> >    they're "exotic", EXPENSIVE, tech.
> 
> No. They are just in very short supply

Plus buying from a non-official reseller means there's a scalper in the loop.
(Hint: Amazon is not always the best place to buy things)

> >   This is
> >    not all 'tariffs' either. Pi stuff was always
> >    way over-priced if you bought it in the USA.
> > 
> Then buy it direct from the UK!

To be fair, 'merkins do have tariffs and import fees and whatnot to worry
about these days.  It's not as simple for them as it is for us.

Theo

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#89642

FromThe Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid>
Date2026-08-06 14:18 +0100
Message-ID<11521j1$3rqu7$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#89640
On 06/08/2026 14:14, Theo wrote:
> To be fair, 'merkins do have tariffs and import fees and whatnot to worry
> about these days.  It's not as simple for them as it is for us.

I wonder what would happen if (once available again) you bought 1000 Pi 
zeros in the UK, put them in a suitcase and flew home with them, and 
then sold them on Ebay...

-- 
"An intellectual is a person knowledgeable in one field who speaks out 
only in others...”

Tom Wolfe

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#89643

Fromwmartin <wwm@wwmartin.net>
Date2026-08-06 09:55 -0700
Message-ID<1152eae$dp1$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#89642
On 8/6/26 06:18, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
> On 06/08/2026 14:14, Theo wrote:
>> To be fair, 'merkins do have tariffs and import fees and whatnot to worry
>> about these days.  It's not as simple for them as it is for us.
> 
> I wonder what would happen if (once available again) you bought 1000 Pi 
> zeros in the UK, put them in a suitcase and flew home with them, and 
> then sold them on Ebay...
> 
US Customs would be very interested in your suitcase!

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#89648

Fromrbowman <bowman@montana.com>
Date2026-08-06 18:48 +0000
Message-ID<ndk376Ff88dU4@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#89642
On Thu, 6 Aug 2026 14:18:25 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

> On 06/08/2026 14:14, Theo wrote:
>> To be fair, 'merkins do have tariffs and import fees and whatnot to
>> worry about these days.  It's not as simple for them as it is for us.
> 
> I wonder what would happen if (once available again) you bought 1000 Pi
> zeros in the UK, put them in a suitcase and flew home with them, and
> then sold them on Ebay...

As I mentioned in a previous post US and Canadian customs can be 
unpredictable. 1000 Zeroes probably would get you special processing. 
Bringing in Chinese tech might get you very special processing. 

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#89647

Fromrbowman <bowman@montana.com>
Date2026-08-06 18:42 +0000
Message-ID<ndk2s4Ff88dU3@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#89636
On Thu, 6 Aug 2026 12:57:46 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

> I was in Boston on business a short time after my house got burgled and
> my CD collection stolen. I filled my suitcase with replacement CDs at
> 2/3rd the price of the UK...

The tax man must have missed your collection. I returned from a Canadian 
site where I'd been setting up a system and had my toolbox, including a 
few octal relays in case I had to replace any. The relays were Japanese 
and I did not have proof that they had been purchased in the US so they 
charged me the import duty.

The customs officers were being pricks. US and Canadian relations have 
been mixed far before Trump. When the countries are in a pissing contest 
citizens crossing the borer bear the brunt. I was next to a guy clearing 
the Canadian side. He was a shoe salesman with his sample case. They 
nailed him for the duty even though he pointed out they were all left foot 
shoes. 

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#89657

FromThe Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid>
Date2026-08-06 21:43 +0100
Message-ID<1152rkr$501h$3@dont-email.me>
In reply to#89647
On 06/08/2026 19:42, rbowman wrote:
> On Thu, 6 Aug 2026 12:57:46 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
> 
>> I was in Boston on business a short time after my house got burgled and
>> my CD collection stolen. I filled my suitcase with replacement CDs at
>> 2/3rd the price of the UK...
> 
> The tax man must have missed your collection. I returned from a Canadian
> site where I'd been setting up a system and had my toolbox, including a
> few octal relays in case I had to replace any. The relays were Japanese
> and I did not have proof that they had been purchased in the US so they
> charged me the import duty.
> 
But you live in the land of 'Big Bootiful Tariffs'
The nation that thinks the rest of the world does not exist, or is a 
third world shit hole

> The customs officers were being pricks. US and Canadian relations have
> been mixed far before Trump. When the countries are in a pissing contest
> citizens crossing the borer bear the brunt. I was next to a guy clearing
> the Canadian side. He was a shoe salesman with his sample case. They
> nailed him for the duty even though he pointed out they were all left foot
> shoes.

I remember flying in from Toronto to New York very early in the morning 
and the customs officer being very suspicious of my tooth powder...

-- 
No Apple devices were knowingly used in the preparation of this post.

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#89672

Fromrbowman <bowman@montana.com>
Date2026-08-07 02:26 +0000
Message-ID<ndku2eFf88dU20@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#89657
On Thu, 6 Aug 2026 21:43:07 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

> On 06/08/2026 19:42, rbowman wrote:
>> On Thu, 6 Aug 2026 12:57:46 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>> 
>>> I was in Boston on business a short time after my house got burgled
>>> and my CD collection stolen. I filled my suitcase with replacement CDs
>>> at 2/3rd the price of the UK...
>> 
>> The tax man must have missed your collection. I returned from a
>> Canadian site where I'd been setting up a system and had my toolbox,
>> including a few octal relays in case I had to replace any. The relays
>> were Japanese and I did not have proof that they had been purchased in
>> the US so they charged me the import duty.
>> 
> But you live in the land of 'Big Bootiful Tariffs'
> The nation that thinks the rest of the world does not exist, or is a
> third world shit hole

That episode would have been around 1972. They also checked to make sure I 
wasn't a draft dodger sneaking home. The relationshi
p was strange even before NAFTA. 

The funniest adventure was when a friend and sailed a International 500 
yawl from Kittery ME up the coast to St. John NB. We'd been to Grand Manan 
which is also NB but doesn't have a customs office so we cleared at the 
St. John harbor. We were low on vital supplies so we asked the nice 
customs lady where the nearest liquor store was. "You guys just came from 
the States? You're supposed to smuggle booze into Canada, not buy it 
here!"

I will admit to some smuggling. When setting up a system in Trois Rivieres 
they'd assigned me a minder since most of the people couldn't speak 
English and I have no French. He went above and beyond, taking me around 
town after work so I asked if there was any way I could return the favor. 
He was fond of Prince Albert which is a US brand despite the name and not 
available or expensive in Canada. He got his Prince Albert in a can to 
echo the popular prank call. 

Canada was always bitchy about tobacco. They confiscated my father's Lucky 
Strikes on one trip. I didn't smoke until I was in my 20s and strange 
enough started with Exports in Ontario but in the US reverted to Luckies. 

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