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| First post | 2026-08-04 00:53 -0400 |
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Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-04 00:53 -0400
Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2026-08-04 06:19 +0000
Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-08-04 07:52 +0100
Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-05 00:45 -0400
Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-08-05 09:22 +0100
Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-05 12:08 +0100
Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-05 12:04 +0100
Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-05 13:56 +0000
Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-08-05 17:45 +0100
Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-05 18:47 +0100
Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-05 18:46 +0100
Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-08-06 14:34 +0200
Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-06 14:16 +0100
Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2026-08-06 20:31 +0200
Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-06 21:45 +0100
Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2026-08-07 08:45 +1000
Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-06 20:03 +0000
Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-06 21:49 +0100
Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2026-08-06 08:59 +1000
Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-06 02:25 -0400
Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-06 12:55 +0100
Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-06 20:10 +0000
Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-06 22:02 +0100
Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-06 12:53 +0100
Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-06 20:13 +0000
Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-06 22:08 +0100
Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2026-08-07 08:40 +1000
Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-04 07:00 +0000
Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-08-04 08:45 +0100
Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-04 17:23 +0000
Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-08-04 18:43 +0100
Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-05 02:18 -0400
Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-08-05 09:27 +0100
Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-05 12:00 +0100
Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-05 11:56 +0100
Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-05 02:10 -0400
Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-08-05 09:29 +0100
Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-05 12:18 +0100
Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-05 11:49 +0100
Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-05 00:47 -0400
Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-05 06:03 +0000
Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-05 03:34 -0400
Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-05 12:17 +0100
Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-05 12:10 +0100
Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-04 11:24 +0100
Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-04 17:30 +0000
Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-05 02:14 -0400
Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-05 11:51 +0100
Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2026-08-04 15:04 +0200
Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-08-04 17:03 +0100
Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-05 01:53 -0400
Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2026-08-05 19:47 +0200
Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-05 18:51 +0100
Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-05 18:57 +0100
Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2026-08-05 20:14 +0200
Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-05 19:49 +0100
Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2026-08-06 11:12 +0200
Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-06 12:15 +0100
Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-06 18:22 +0000
Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-06 21:39 +0100
Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-05 22:03 +0000
Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2026-08-06 11:03 +0200
Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-06 18:32 +0000
Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-06 02:22 -0400
Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2026-08-06 11:12 +0200
Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-06 12:09 +0100
Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-06 12:57 +0100
Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2026-08-06 14:14 +0100
Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-06 14:18 +0100
Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon wmartin <wwm@wwmartin.net> - 2026-08-06 09:55 -0700
Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-06 18:48 +0000
Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-06 18:42 +0000
Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-06 21:43 +0100
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2026-08-05 22:03 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <ndhq98F8voU7@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #89610 |
On Wed, 05 Aug 2026 20:14:34 +0200, s|b wrote: > That's what I said. They expect to have new ones by Oct 2026, but who > knows? (There's a button to get a notification when they're available > again.) DigiKey isn't that optimistic. They're saying sometime next year.
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| From | "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-08-06 11:03 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <ndj0vlFab94U2@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #89616 |
On 5 Aug 2026 22:03:21 GMT, rbowman wrote: > On Wed, 05 Aug 2026 20:14:34 +0200, s|b wrote: > > > That's what I said. They expect to have new ones by Oct 2026, but who > > knows? (There's a button to get a notification when they're available > > again.) > DigiKey isn't that optimistic. They're saying sometime next year. Yesterday, I did a quick search for Raspberry Pi Zero and found 2 Dutch and 2 Belgian stores who still had them in stock and sold them under 20 euro. Just saying... -- s|b
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2026-08-06 18:32 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <ndk296Ff88dU2@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #89625 |
On Thu, 06 Aug 2026 11:03:57 +0200, s|b wrote: > On 5 Aug 2026 22:03:21 GMT, rbowman wrote: > >> On Wed, 05 Aug 2026 20:14:34 +0200, s|b wrote: >> >> > That's what I said. They expect to have new ones by Oct 2026, but who >> > knows? (There's a button to get a notification when they're available >> > again.) > >> DigiKey isn't that optimistic. They're saying sometime next year. > > Yesterday, I did a quick search for Raspberry Pi Zero and found 2 Dutch > and 2 Belgian stores who still had them in stock and sold them under 20 > euro. Just saying... Perhaps the Dutch are more ethical. Obama's election triggered panic buying of ammunition that resulted in bare shelves. Many vendors maintained the current price but quickly exhausted their stock. One vendors which had been known as a cheap source had stock but raised prices almost hourly. When the market normalized many remembered the vendor who used the 'whatever the market will bear' philosophy. The extremely overpriced vendors on Amazon have an advantage. Next year they can return with a brand new name. I did note a new Amazon feature, a 'high price alert' that suggested you might search a little further. The 'price history' graph is also useful.
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| From | c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> |
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| Date | 2026-08-06 02:22 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <H4mdneOmp715uun3nZ2dnZfqn_GdnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #89610 |
On 8/5/26 14:14, s|b wrote: > On Wed, 5 Aug 2026 18:57:11 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote: > >> On 05/08/2026 18:47, s|b wrote: >> >> € 13,99 ex VAT > > That's what the site says, but the price you pay would be VAT included. > AFAIK only business owners can buy ex VAT (in a Dutch shop). > >> And out of stock > > That's what I said. They expect to have new ones by Oct 2026, but who > knows? (There's a button to get a notification when they're available > again.) > >> The point is almost NO one has Pi zeros AT ALL right now. The price is >> irrelevant > > The OP is about the price, so I tend to disagree. I did however forgot 2 > things: tariffs and the power supply. That would have to be bought in > the US. I have no clue what effect tariffs would have since Drumpf > changes his mind like every 5 minutes on this. Hey, was JUST SAYIN' ... the ridiculous price was what I saw on US Amazon the other day. Pi0s were supposed to be DIRT CHEAP - now they're "exotic", EXPENSIVE, tech. This is not all 'tariffs' either. Pi stuff was always way over-priced if you bought it in the USA.
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| From | "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-08-06 11:12 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <ndj1foFagvfU2@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #89622 |
On Thu, 6 Aug 2026 02:22:11 -0400, c186282 wrote: > Hey, was JUST SAYIN' ... the ridiculous price > was what I saw on US Amazon the other day. > > Pi0s were supposed to be DIRT CHEAP - now > they're "exotic", EXPENSIVE, tech. This is > not all 'tariffs' either. Pi stuff was always > way over-priced if you bought it in the USA. Point taken. -- s|b
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| From | The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-08-06 12:09 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <1151q1e$3p218$6@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #89627 |
On 06/08/2026 10:12, s|b wrote: > On Thu, 6 Aug 2026 02:22:11 -0400, c186282 wrote: > >> Hey, was JUST SAYIN' ... the ridiculous price >> was what I saw on US Amazon the other day. >> >> Pi0s were supposed to be DIRT CHEAP - now >> they're "exotic", EXPENSIVE, tech. This is >> not all 'tariffs' either. Pi stuff was always >> way over-priced if you bought it in the USA. > > Point taken. > It's not overpriced now,. It's simply unobtainable -- There is nothing a fleet of dispatchable nuclear power plants cannot do that cannot be done worse and more expensively and with higher carbon emissions and more adverse environmental impact by adding intermittent renewable energy.
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| From | The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-08-06 12:57 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <1151srq$3p218$14@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #89622 |
On 06/08/2026 07:22, c186282 wrote: > On 8/5/26 14:14, s|b wrote: >> On Wed, 5 Aug 2026 18:57:11 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote: >> >>> On 05/08/2026 18:47, s|b wrote: >>> >>> € 13,99 ex VAT >> >> That's what the site says, but the price you pay would be VAT included. >> AFAIK only business owners can buy ex VAT (in a Dutch shop). >>> And out of stock >> >> That's what I said. They expect to have new ones by Oct 2026, but who >> knows? (There's a button to get a notification when they're available >> again.) >>> The point is almost NO one has Pi zeros AT ALL right now. The price is >>> irrelevant >> >> The OP is about the price, so I tend to disagree. I did however forgot 2 >> things: tariffs and the power supply. That would have to be bought in >> the US. I have no clue what effect tariffs would have since Drumpf >> changes his mind like every 5 minutes on this. > > Hey, was JUST SAYIN' ... the ridiculous price > was what I saw on US Amazon the other day. > > Pi0s were supposed to be DIRT CHEAP - now > they're "exotic", EXPENSIVE, tech. No. They are just in very short supply > This is > not all 'tariffs' either. Pi stuff was always > way over-priced if you bought it in the USA. > Then buy it direct from the UK! I was in Boston on business a short time after my house got burgled and my CD collection stolen. I filled my suitcase with replacement CDs at 2/3rd the price of the UK... -- The lifetime of any political organisation is about three years before its been subverted by the people it tried to warn you about. Anon.
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| From | Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> |
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| Date | 2026-08-06 14:14 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <dWd*WisNA@news.chiark.greenend.org.uk> |
| In reply to | #89636 |
In comp.sys.raspberry-pi The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote: > On 06/08/2026 07:22, c186282 wrote: > > > > Hey, was JUST SAYIN' ... the ridiculous price > > was what I saw on US Amazon the other day. > > > > Pi0s were supposed to be DIRT CHEAP - now > > they're "exotic", EXPENSIVE, tech. > > No. They are just in very short supply Plus buying from a non-official reseller means there's a scalper in the loop. (Hint: Amazon is not always the best place to buy things) > > This is > > not all 'tariffs' either. Pi stuff was always > > way over-priced if you bought it in the USA. > > > Then buy it direct from the UK! To be fair, 'merkins do have tariffs and import fees and whatnot to worry about these days. It's not as simple for them as it is for us. Theo
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| From | The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-08-06 14:18 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <11521j1$3rqu7$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #89640 |
On 06/08/2026 14:14, Theo wrote: > To be fair, 'merkins do have tariffs and import fees and whatnot to worry > about these days. It's not as simple for them as it is for us. I wonder what would happen if (once available again) you bought 1000 Pi zeros in the UK, put them in a suitcase and flew home with them, and then sold them on Ebay... -- "An intellectual is a person knowledgeable in one field who speaks out only in others...” Tom Wolfe
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| From | wmartin <wwm@wwmartin.net> |
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| Date | 2026-08-06 09:55 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <1152eae$dp1$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #89642 |
On 8/6/26 06:18, The Natural Philosopher wrote: > On 06/08/2026 14:14, Theo wrote: >> To be fair, 'merkins do have tariffs and import fees and whatnot to worry >> about these days. It's not as simple for them as it is for us. > > I wonder what would happen if (once available again) you bought 1000 Pi > zeros in the UK, put them in a suitcase and flew home with them, and > then sold them on Ebay... > US Customs would be very interested in your suitcase!
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2026-08-06 18:48 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <ndk376Ff88dU4@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #89642 |
On Thu, 6 Aug 2026 14:18:25 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote: > On 06/08/2026 14:14, Theo wrote: >> To be fair, 'merkins do have tariffs and import fees and whatnot to >> worry about these days. It's not as simple for them as it is for us. > > I wonder what would happen if (once available again) you bought 1000 Pi > zeros in the UK, put them in a suitcase and flew home with them, and > then sold them on Ebay... As I mentioned in a previous post US and Canadian customs can be unpredictable. 1000 Zeroes probably would get you special processing. Bringing in Chinese tech might get you very special processing.
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2026-08-06 18:42 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <ndk2s4Ff88dU3@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #89636 |
On Thu, 6 Aug 2026 12:57:46 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote: > I was in Boston on business a short time after my house got burgled and > my CD collection stolen. I filled my suitcase with replacement CDs at > 2/3rd the price of the UK... The tax man must have missed your collection. I returned from a Canadian site where I'd been setting up a system and had my toolbox, including a few octal relays in case I had to replace any. The relays were Japanese and I did not have proof that they had been purchased in the US so they charged me the import duty. The customs officers were being pricks. US and Canadian relations have been mixed far before Trump. When the countries are in a pissing contest citizens crossing the borer bear the brunt. I was next to a guy clearing the Canadian side. He was a shoe salesman with his sample case. They nailed him for the duty even though he pointed out they were all left foot shoes.
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| From | The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-08-06 21:43 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <1152rkr$501h$3@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #89647 |
On 06/08/2026 19:42, rbowman wrote: > On Thu, 6 Aug 2026 12:57:46 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote: > >> I was in Boston on business a short time after my house got burgled and >> my CD collection stolen. I filled my suitcase with replacement CDs at >> 2/3rd the price of the UK... > > The tax man must have missed your collection. I returned from a Canadian > site where I'd been setting up a system and had my toolbox, including a > few octal relays in case I had to replace any. The relays were Japanese > and I did not have proof that they had been purchased in the US so they > charged me the import duty. > But you live in the land of 'Big Bootiful Tariffs' The nation that thinks the rest of the world does not exist, or is a third world shit hole > The customs officers were being pricks. US and Canadian relations have > been mixed far before Trump. When the countries are in a pissing contest > citizens crossing the borer bear the brunt. I was next to a guy clearing > the Canadian side. He was a shoe salesman with his sample case. They > nailed him for the duty even though he pointed out they were all left foot > shoes. I remember flying in from Toronto to New York very early in the morning and the customs officer being very suspicious of my tooth powder... -- No Apple devices were knowingly used in the preparation of this post.
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