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  Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-04 00:53 -0400
    Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2026-08-04 06:19 +0000
    Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-08-04 07:52 +0100
      Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-05 00:45 -0400
        Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-08-05 09:22 +0100
          Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-05 12:08 +0100
        Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-05 12:04 +0100
          Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-05 13:56 +0000
            Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-08-05 17:45 +0100
              Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-05 18:47 +0100
            Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-05 18:46 +0100
              Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-08-06 14:34 +0200
                Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-06 14:16 +0100
                  Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2026-08-06 20:31 +0200
                    Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-06 21:45 +0100
                    Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2026-08-07 08:45 +1000
                  Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-06 20:03 +0000
                    Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-06 21:49 +0100
          Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2026-08-06 08:59 +1000
            Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-06 02:25 -0400
              Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-06 12:55 +0100
                Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-06 20:10 +0000
                  Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-06 22:02 +0100
            Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-06 12:53 +0100
              Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-06 20:13 +0000
                Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-06 22:08 +0100
              Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2026-08-07 08:40 +1000
    Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-04 07:00 +0000
      Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-08-04 08:45 +0100
        Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-04 17:23 +0000
          Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-08-04 18:43 +0100
            Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-05 02:18 -0400
              Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-08-05 09:27 +0100
                Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-05 12:00 +0100
            Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-05 11:56 +0100
          Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-05 02:10 -0400
            Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-08-05 09:29 +0100
              Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-05 12:18 +0100
          Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-05 11:49 +0100
      Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-05 00:47 -0400
        Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-05 06:03 +0000
          Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-05 03:34 -0400
          Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-05 12:17 +0100
        Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-05 12:10 +0100
    Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-04 11:24 +0100
      Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-04 17:30 +0000
        Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-05 02:14 -0400
        Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-05 11:51 +0100
    Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2026-08-04 15:04 +0200
      Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-08-04 17:03 +0100
      Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-05 01:53 -0400
        Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2026-08-05 19:47 +0200
          Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-05 18:51 +0100
          Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-05 18:57 +0100
            Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2026-08-05 20:14 +0200
              Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-05 19:49 +0100
                Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2026-08-06 11:12 +0200
                  Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-06 12:15 +0100
                  Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-06 18:22 +0000
                    Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-06 21:39 +0100
              Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-05 22:03 +0000
                Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2026-08-06 11:03 +0200
                  Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-06 18:32 +0000
              Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-06 02:22 -0400
                Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2026-08-06 11:12 +0200
                  Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-06 12:09 +0100
                Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-06 12:57 +0100
                  Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2026-08-06 14:14 +0100
                    Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-06 14:18 +0100
                      Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon wmartin <wwm@wwmartin.net> - 2026-08-06 09:55 -0700
                      Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-06 18:48 +0000
                  Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-06 18:42 +0000
                    Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-06 21:43 +0100

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#89573

On Wed, 5 Aug 2026 00:47:56 -0400, c186282 wrote:

>    These prices will alienate US customers rather badly - 300 million of
>    them. PIs are no longer an 'affordable' path to anything.

I have no idea how many Pi users aren't doing anything with the GPIO 
capabilities and are using the Pi as a cheap board for PiHole, a NAS 
server, or other things that only need a Linux box. As the article I 
posted points out when you can buy a cheap mini that will do the job and 
comes with a case, heat sink, fan, and standard HDMI/USB connections the 
Pi loses it's shine.

I am using the Pi to read a DHT11 sensor but I could certainly use one of 
the Linux boxes with a Pico hung off a USB port.

It's interesting the Arduino Uno Q formalizes that architecture with the 
MCU soldered to the bottom and a Cortex-A MPU on top. 

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#89581

On 8/5/26 02:03, rbowman wrote:
> On Wed, 5 Aug 2026 00:47:56 -0400, c186282 wrote:
> 
>>     These prices will alienate US customers rather badly - 300 million of
>>     them. PIs are no longer an 'affordable' path to anything.
> 
> I have no idea how many Pi users aren't doing anything with the GPIO
> capabilities and are using the Pi as a cheap board for PiHole, a NAS
> server, or other things that only need a Linux box. As the article I
> posted points out when you can buy a cheap mini that will do the job and
> comes with a case, heat sink, fan, and standard HDMI/USB connections the
> Pi loses it's shine.
> 
> I am using the Pi to read a DHT11 sensor but I could certainly use one of
> the Linux boxes with a Pico hung off a USB port.
> 
> It's interesting the Arduino Uno Q formalizes that architecture with the
> MCU soldered to the bottom and a Cortex-A MPU on top.

   PIs *used* to be a good/cheap fix for MANY
   issues. But at THESE prices .......

   And nobody in the USA makes good clone.

   And 'consumer' PCs and such - you can't GET
   mem/storage any more - ALL the mem production
   has been redirected to "AI".

   This is BAD.

   I got kinda lucky, got a new main lap and
   upgraded a few older, but OK, laps and
   such LAST year. NOW I could not DO it
   without being horribly ripped-off.

   Just gonna have to stand pat ... maybe
   things will improve - but not THIS year
   fer sure.

   Note - USING the "AIs" requires a moderantly
   decent lap or whatever. If you can't AFFORD
   those due to mem issues then you can't use
   the "AI'. Interesting, eh ?

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#89596

On 05/08/2026 07:03, rbowman wrote:
> On Wed, 5 Aug 2026 00:47:56 -0400, c186282 wrote:
> 
>>     These prices will alienate US customers rather badly - 300 million of
>>     them. PIs are no longer an 'affordable' path to anything.
> 
> I have no idea how many Pi users aren't doing anything with the GPIO
> capabilities and are using the Pi as a cheap board for PiHole, a NAS
> server, or other things that only need a Linux box. As the article I
> posted points out when you can buy a cheap mini that will do the job and
> comes with a case, heat sink, fan, and standard HDMI/USB connections the
> Pi loses it's shine.
> 
Yes. I do drive relays with one of of my zeros. The others drive quality 
D to A converters for use as audio servers.
They are (or were) simply the lowest cost Linux servers you can get. 
Perfect.

When it comes to NAS my trial PI is not doing well. It cannot 
consistently drive twin SSDs. I may got to a Pi5 with SATA hat...

> I am using the Pi to read a DHT11 sensor but I could certainly use one of
> the Linux boxes with a Pico hung off a USB port.
> 
I use Picos as well for their A to D capabilities and I/O and wireless comms

> It's interesting the Arduino Uno Q formalizes that architecture with the
> MCU soldered to the bottom and a Cortex-A MPU on top.

The point is that people select what is going to work for them in their 
application that is within their code skills.

I picked PIs because they were less than half the price of an Arduino 
and were very well supported

If they cease to be that, I wont buy them

-- 
Renewable energy: Expensive solutions that don't work to a problem that 
doesn't exist instituted by self legalising protection rackets that 
don't protect,  masquerading as public servants who don't serve the public.

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#89595

On 05/08/2026 05:47, c186282 wrote:
> What I saw was BARE BOARD - no 'accessories'.
> 
>    These prices will alienate US customers rather
>    badly - 300 million of them. PIs are no longer
>    an 'affordable' path to anything.

I think that isn't just a USA POV

High RAM prices have driven the cost of ANY computing equipment to the 
point where second hand kit is vastly more attractive as is hanging on 
to what you have

God knows how much one time use suicide drones are soaking up in Russia.

-- 
Renewable energy: Expensive solutions that don't work to a problem that 
doesn't exist instituted by self legalising protection rackets that 
don't protect,  masquerading as public servants who don't serve the public.

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#89548

On 04/08/2026 05:53, c186282 wrote:
> Just checked. $79 USD on Amazon. Just the
> bare board, no accessories.
> 
> Weren't these things supposed to be under $10 ???
> 
> Wow !
> 
They are about $230 in the UK if there were any to sell

> Memory chip production redirection surely
> plays its part - but beyond even that ...
> 
> A 2-Zero is SUPPOSED to be the next thing
> to electronic NOTHING. What the fuck has
> happened ???
> 

Someone is gouging because of the shortage

-- 
“There are two ways to be fooled. One is to believe what isn’t true; the 
other is to refuse to believe what is true.”

—Soren Kierkegaard

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#89553

On Tue, 4 Aug 2026 11:24:47 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

> Someone is gouging because of the shortage

Capitalism, old boy. Whatever the market will bear. It is rather a 
problem. Nixon tried wage and price controls after the oil embargo 
disrupted the economy. Poor old Jimmy got handed the bag'o'shit when the 
controls were removed. The Dems really should have handed the mess to Ford 
and played a long game.

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#89575

On 8/4/26 13:30, rbowman wrote:
> On Tue, 4 Aug 2026 11:24:47 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
> 
>> Someone is gouging because of the shortage
> 
> Capitalism, old boy. 

  Yep.

  It's a blessing OR a curse.

  Supply/demand - prices WILL vary considerably.

  But STILL better than commiesocialism - then
  you'll get NOTHING.

Whatever the market will bear. It is rather a
> problem. Nixon tried wage and price controls after the oil embargo
> disrupted the economy. Poor old Jimmy got handed the bag'o'shit when the
> controls were removed. The Dems really should have handed the mess to Ford
> and played a long game.

   The current "trade adjustments" affect everything.
   Sometimes they affect shit they shouldn't. USA has
   no equivs to PIs. Should, but doesn't.

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#89590

On 04/08/2026 18:30, rbowman wrote:
> On Tue, 4 Aug 2026 11:24:47 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
> 
>> Someone is gouging because of the shortage
> 
> Capitalism, old boy. Whatever the market will bear. It is rather a
> problem. Nixon tried wage and price controls after the oil embargo
> disrupted the economy. Poor old Jimmy got handed the bag'o'shit when the
> controls were removed. The Dems really should have handed the mess to Ford
> and played a long game.

Of course, but as you pointed out, consistent demand is not a given.

My desktop with its 24GB of RAM is not going to be replaced just yet

I may well not buy another pi for a year or two

Just wait till the AI bubble bursts...

-- 
The New Left are the people they warned you about.

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#89550

[added comp.sys.raspberry-pi]

On Tue, 4 Aug 2026 00:53:21 -0400, c186282 wrote:

> Just checked. $79 USD on Amazon. Just the
> bare board, no accessories.
> 
> Weren't these things supposed to be under $10 ???
> 
> Wow !
> 
> Memory chip production redirection surely
> plays its part - but beyond even that ...
> 
> A 2-Zero is SUPPOSED to be the next thing
> to electronic NOTHING. What the fuck has
> happened ???

Still 16,93 euro at this Dutch shop
<https://www.kiwi-electronics.com/nl/raspberry-pi-zero-2-w-10770?search=pi%20zero%202w>

But...

1. not available atm; when available? 14-10-2026 (expected)

2. Every customer/address can only buy 2 maximum.

They've been implementing a restriction like this for some time now, but
atm none of the Zeros seem to be available:
<https://www.kiwi-electronics.com/nl/raspberry-pi-boards-behuizingen-uitbreidingen-en-accessoires-59/raspberry-pi-boards-363?ff1=7>

-- 
s|b

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#89551

s|b wrote:

> [added comp.sys.raspberry-pi]

wasn't it posted here already?

> Still 16,93 euro at this Dutch shop
> <https://www.kiwi-electronics.com/nl/raspberry-pi-zero-2-w-10770?search=pi%20zero%202w>
> 
> But...
> 
> 1. not available atm
According to <https://rpilocator.com> they had stock yesterday, or are 
the status updates broken?

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#89572

On 8/4/26 09:04, s|b wrote:
> [added comp.sys.raspberry-pi]
> 
> On Tue, 4 Aug 2026 00:53:21 -0400, c186282 wrote:
> 
>> Just checked. $79 USD on Amazon. Just the
>> bare board, no accessories.
>>
>> Weren't these things supposed to be under $10 ???
>>
>> Wow !
>>
>> Memory chip production redirection surely
>> plays its part - but beyond even that ...
>>
>> A 2-Zero is SUPPOSED to be the next thing
>> to electronic NOTHING. What the fuck has
>> happened ???
> 
> Still 16,93 euro at this Dutch shop
> <https://www.kiwi-electronics.com/nl/raspberry-pi-zero-2-w-10770?search=pi%20zero%202w>

   Only interested in US prices.

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#89606

On Wed, 5 Aug 2026 01:53:35 -0400, c186282 wrote:

> On 8/4/26 09:04, s|b wrote:
>
> > Still 16,93 euro at this Dutch shop
> > <https://www.kiwi-electronics.com/nl/raspberry-pi-zero-2-w-10770?search=pi%20zero%202w>
 
>    Only interested in US prices.

They do international shipping and you can change the language on the
website to English. But hey, if you want to stick with Amazon and make
Bezos even richer than he already is...

-- 
s|b

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#89608

On 05/08/2026 18:47, s|b wrote:
> On Wed, 5 Aug 2026 01:53:35 -0400, c186282 wrote:
> 
>> On 8/4/26 09:04, s|b wrote:
>>
>>> Still 16,93 euro at this Dutch shop
>>> <https://www.kiwi-electronics.com/nl/raspberry-pi-zero-2-w-10770?search=pi%20zero%202w>
>   
>>     Only interested in US prices.
> 
> They do international shipping and you can change the language on the
> website to English. But hey, if you want to stick with Amazon and make
> Bezos even richer than he already is...
> 

Yeah. I once imported the last two mid range units from a particular 
(Spanish) manufacturer that I could find to repair my 45 year old 
loudspeakers. From Australia!

And then they didn't fit. I had to 3D print adapter rings.
I repaired the bass and treble units with parts from China, of course

The import from Oz was not too painful.

I did import a Fender part for a loudspeaker from USA. Bloody expensive 
but it got here OK


-- 
In todays liberal progressive conflict-free education system, everyone 
gets full Marx.

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#89609

On 05/08/2026 18:47, s|b wrote:
> On Wed, 5 Aug 2026 01:53:35 -0400, c186282 wrote:
> 
>> On 8/4/26 09:04, s|b wrote:
>>
>>> Still 16,93 euro at this Dutch shop
>>> <https://www.kiwi-electronics.com/nl/raspberry-pi-zero-2-w-10770?search=pi%20zero%202w>
>   

€ 13,99 ex VAT

>>     Only interested in US prices.
> 
And out of stock

> They do international shipping and you can change the language on the
> website to English. But hey, if you want to stick with Amazon and make
> Bezos even richer than he already is...
> 
The point is almost NO one has Pi zeros AT ALL right now. The price is 
irrelevant



-- 
"What do you think about Gay Marriage?"
"I don't."
"Don't what?"
"Think about Gay Marriage."

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#89610

On Wed, 5 Aug 2026 18:57:11 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

> On 05/08/2026 18:47, s|b wrote:
> 
> € 13,99 ex VAT

That's what the site says, but the price you pay would be VAT included.
AFAIK only business owners can buy ex VAT (in a Dutch shop).
 
> And out of stock

That's what I said. They expect to have new ones by Oct 2026, but who
knows? (There's a button to get a notification when they're available
again.)
 
> The point is almost NO one has Pi zeros AT ALL right now. The price is 
> irrelevant

The OP is about the price, so I tend to disagree. I did however forgot 2
things: tariffs and the power supply. That would have to be bought in
the US. I have no clue what effect tariffs would have since Drumpf
changes his mind like every 5 minutes on this.

-- 
s|b

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#89611

On 05/08/2026 19:14, s|b wrote:
> On Wed, 5 Aug 2026 18:57:11 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
> 
>> On 05/08/2026 18:47, s|b wrote:
>>
>> € 13,99 ex VAT
> 
> That's what the site says, but the price you pay would be VAT included.
> AFAIK only business owners can buy ex VAT (in a Dutch shop).
>   
>> And out of stock
> 
> That's what I said. They expect to have new ones by Oct 2026, but who
> knows? (There's a button to get a notification when they're available
> again.)
>   
>> The point is almost NO one has Pi zeros AT ALL right now. The price is
>> irrelevant
> 
> The OP is about the price, so I tend to disagree. I did however forgot 2
> things: tariffs and the power supply. That would have to be bought in
> the US. I have no clue what effect tariffs would have since Drumpf
> changes his mind like every 5 minutes on this.
> 
PSUs are generic
But Pi zeros are unobtanium right now, except at silly money

I can wait. I think I have a spare one somewhere

-- 
Civilization exists by geological consent, subject to change without notice.
  – Will Durant

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#89626

On Wed, 5 Aug 2026 19:49:58 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

> PSUs are generic
> But Pi zeros are unobtanium right now, except at silly money
> 
> I can wait. I think I have a spare one somewhere

'unobtanium', I love it when I learn a new word/expression. If I could
only remember it, so I can use it myself some day. (-:

I did a quick search yesterday and found 2 Dutch and 2 Belgian stores
that still had them in stock for under 20 euro. But those were Zero W,
not Zero 2 W. I didn't check if they shipped internationally, probably
not, so they're of no use to many people here.

-- 
s|b

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#89629

On 06/08/2026 10:12, s|b wrote:
> On Wed, 5 Aug 2026 19:49:58 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
> 
>> PSUs are generic
>> But Pi zeros are unobtanium right now, except at silly money
>>
>> I can wait. I think I have a spare one somewhere
> 
> 'unobtanium', I love it when I learn a new word/expression. If I could
> only remember it, so I can use it myself some day. (-:
> 
It's been around since the 1950s.

It's widely touted as the solution to renewable energy batteries.


> I did a quick search yesterday and found 2 Dutch and 2 Belgian stores
> that still had them in stock for under 20 euro. But those were Zero W,
> not Zero 2 W. I didn't check if they shipped internationally, probably
> not, so they're of no use to many people here.
> 
All mine are v1.3s not 2.0. Although the Zero W was never given a 
version number til V2
More than adequate for what I wanted,.

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emissions and more adverse environmental impact by adding intermittent 
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#89644

On Thu, 06 Aug 2026 11:12:09 +0200, s|b wrote:

> On Wed, 5 Aug 2026 19:49:58 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
> 
>> PSUs are generic But Pi zeros are unobtanium right now, except at silly
>> money
>> 
>> I can wait. I think I have a spare one somewhere
> 
> 'unobtanium', I love it when I learn a new word/expression. If I could
> only remember it, so I can use it myself some day. (-:

The word has a long history. There is a nuance. 'Vaproware' is a product 
that is announced but doesn't exist. The prime example is when Osborne 
announced the successor to the Osborne 1, killing the sales of the 
existing product without having the replacement in hand. Intel's 432 and 
Microsoft's Xenix may fall into that category.

'Unobtanium' is a device that exists but you can't buy at the present 
time. The Zero is a current example. In the early '80s vendors were 
quoting similar lead times of over a year on commodity chips. That, in 
part, impacted IBM's PC design. 

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#89656

On 06/08/2026 19:22, rbowman wrote:

> 'Unobtanium' is a device that exists but you can't buy at the present
> time. The Zero is a current example. In the early '80s vendors were
> quoting similar lead times of over a year on commodity chips. That, in
> part, impacted IBM's PC design.

No. Unobtanium is a substance that does NOT exist. But would solve 
massive problems if it did.

right now pi zeros do not actually exist in vendor stock.




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