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  Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-04 00:53 -0400
    Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2026-08-04 06:19 +0000
    Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-08-04 07:52 +0100
      Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-05 00:45 -0400
        Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-08-05 09:22 +0100
          Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-05 12:08 +0100
        Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-05 12:04 +0100
          Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-05 13:56 +0000
            Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-08-05 17:45 +0100
              Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-05 18:47 +0100
            Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-05 18:46 +0100
              Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-08-06 14:34 +0200
                Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-06 14:16 +0100
                  Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2026-08-06 20:31 +0200
                    Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-06 21:45 +0100
                    Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2026-08-07 08:45 +1000
                  Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-06 20:03 +0000
                    Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-06 21:49 +0100
          Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2026-08-06 08:59 +1000
            Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-06 02:25 -0400
              Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-06 12:55 +0100
                Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-06 20:10 +0000
                  Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-06 22:02 +0100
            Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-06 12:53 +0100
              Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-06 20:13 +0000
                Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-06 22:08 +0100
              Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2026-08-07 08:40 +1000
    Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-04 07:00 +0000
      Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-08-04 08:45 +0100
        Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-04 17:23 +0000
          Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-08-04 18:43 +0100
            Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-05 02:18 -0400
              Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-08-05 09:27 +0100
                Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-05 12:00 +0100
            Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-05 11:56 +0100
          Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-05 02:10 -0400
            Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-08-05 09:29 +0100
              Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-05 12:18 +0100
          Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-05 11:49 +0100
      Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-05 00:47 -0400
        Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-05 06:03 +0000
          Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-05 03:34 -0400
          Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-05 12:17 +0100
        Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-05 12:10 +0100
    Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-04 11:24 +0100
      Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-04 17:30 +0000
        Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-05 02:14 -0400
        Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-05 11:51 +0100
    Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2026-08-04 15:04 +0200
      Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-08-04 17:03 +0100
      Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-05 01:53 -0400
        Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2026-08-05 19:47 +0200
          Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-05 18:51 +0100
          Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-05 18:57 +0100
            Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2026-08-05 20:14 +0200
              Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-05 19:49 +0100
                Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2026-08-06 11:12 +0200
                  Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-06 12:15 +0100
                  Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-06 18:22 +0000
                    Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-06 21:39 +0100
              Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-05 22:03 +0000
                Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2026-08-06 11:03 +0200
                  Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-06 18:32 +0000
              Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-06 02:22 -0400
                Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2026-08-06 11:12 +0200
                  Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-06 12:09 +0100
                Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-06 12:57 +0100
                  Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2026-08-06 14:14 +0100
                    Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-06 14:18 +0100
                      Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon wmartin <wwm@wwmartin.net> - 2026-08-06 09:55 -0700
                      Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-06 18:48 +0000
                  Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-06 18:42 +0000
                    Re: Note : Pi 2 Zero W Now RIP-OFF Price on Amazon The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-06 21:43 +0100

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#89635

On 06/08/2026 07:25, c186282 wrote:
> Ummmm ... NEVER buy from Ali ... 

ALWAYS buy from Ali. Just never again discrete semiconductors or 
obsolete chips....


-- 
    "Fanaticism consists in redoubling your effort when you have 
forgotten your aim."

  George Santayana

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#89652

On Thu, 6 Aug 2026 12:55:36 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

> On 06/08/2026 07:25, c186282 wrote:
>> Ummmm ... NEVER buy from Ali ...
> 
> ALWAYS buy from Ali. Just never again discrete semiconductors or
> obsolete chips....

Your money, your choice.  The word on the STM forums is you might as well 
participate in back alley crap games if you expect your AliExpress Black 
or Blue Pill to be other than a pill bug.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armadillidiidae

My family always called them 'cellar bugs'. I don't know if it was the 
German influence like calling chives 'Schnittlauch'  or because they lived 
in the cellar.

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#89661

On 06/08/2026 21:10, rbowman wrote:
> On Thu, 6 Aug 2026 12:55:36 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
> 
>> On 06/08/2026 07:25, c186282 wrote:
>>> Ummmm ... NEVER buy from Ali ...
>>
>> ALWAYS buy from Ali. Just never again discrete semiconductors or
>> obsolete chips....
> 
> Your money, your choice.  The word on the STM forums is you might as well
> participate in back alley crap games if you expect your AliExpress Black
> or Blue Pill to be other than a pill bug.
> 
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armadillidiidae
> 
> My family always called them 'cellar bugs'. I don't know if it was the
> German influence like calling chives 'Schnittlauch'  or because they lived
> in the cellar.

*shrug*. I have tools, I have boxes of screws, I have threaded bushes 
for 3D prints...I have PCBs with chips on that actually work.
The only thing I got that was totally duff were some high voltage 
(allegedly) Darlingtons that weren't. They broke down until I stopped 
using them. I've got resistor packs, capacitor sets, mains RF chokes and 
so on all of which are very good quality. And of course SMPS units to 
power Pis and so on.

Hi-Link is the company for those.

I repaired loudspeakers with GXAMP parts .

They (Ali express)  were the only place for full 15A/240VAC relays.

I bought a pair of small brushless motors with controllers. One of the 
controllers caught fire as soon as I plugged it in. I downloaded a 
return material auth,sent the damaged unit back  and they refunded the 
money. So I ended up with one set for free.

My PCBs are made in China too. No problems ever. About 10 day turn round.
Only VAT charged on the stuff, and Aliexpress do that at source.

Some vendors are criminals. Most are not.



-- 
The difference bweteen a psychopath and a saint is that the psychpoath 
takes what he can and gives only what he must, but the saint gives 
everything he can and takes only what he needs.

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#89634

On 05/08/2026 23:59, Computer Nerd Kev wrote:
> The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>> On 05/08/2026 05:45, c186282 wrote:
>>>     As you're quoting BRIT currency ...
>>>
>>>     But once the units are offered in USA and
>>>     maybe others ... MASSIVE price increase.
>>
>> Blame King Donald's import taxes.
>> And its isolationist stance.
>>
>> Once I ordered like $120 worth of small parts from a US supplier.
>> The transport, import duty, VAT  and handling charges doubled that.
>>
>> I can import small stuff from china with none of that.
> 
> I guess you actually believe the postage quotes on sites like
> AliExpress then? 

No need.  They have proved to be 100% accurate

> In that case I'll bet some Chinese seller there
> has a RPi Zero for something like $10, but with $60 for delivery,
> while another has one for $60 and $10 delivery. Pick the deal that
> looks best to you!
> 
Nope. Ive bought a ton of stuff from Aliexpress. The more usual 'scam' 
is to advertise say a Pi zero for 80c, but when you go to the page 
that's just the plastic case...if you want a PCB and chips with that its 
$20 :-)

Another one was for an excavator for $1500 - that turned out to be the 
deposit on one to be delivered later at a total cost of 
$12000...depending on options

> True most companies in the USA do want at least twice as much to
> send things to me in Australia as it costs me to send things to the
> USA. But it's not half as bad as the UK where the costs often start
> at over $100 to send anything to Aus these days. Though I guess
> because many UK/USA companies insist on only sending international
> orders by courier for some reason. Courier services can be
> expensive from China as well. Most couriers now just hand over to
> the local postal service once the parcel reaches Aus so I still
> have to drive to town to pick the thing up from the post office
> myself anyway.
> 
Too many vendors got their fingers burned sending by international post. 
Parcels just 'disappeared'

I couriered some documents to my niece in South Africa for just £20 took 
tow days only!

> On the up side, thanks to the Aus government's weak attempt at
> taxing imports you often skip having to pay GST (though AliExpress,
> and sometimes Ebay, charge it). The UK used to be almost as weak on
> that too, but like the EU they're copying the USA now and
> tightening up on it. Trump has shown the world how to tax imports
> more effectively (after a massive amount of initial disruption), if
> that's something to be proud of...
> 
Trump still thinks that isolation is possible or even desirable in the 
21st century
What a dork!
-- 
The higher up the mountainside
The greener grows the grass.
The higher up the monkey climbs
The more he shows his arse.

Traditional

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#89653

On Thu, 6 Aug 2026 12:53:46 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

> Trump still thinks that isolation is possible or even desirable in the
> 21st century

He obviously doesn't believe that or he wouldn't be screwing around in 
West Asia. 

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#89663

On 06/08/2026 21:13, rbowman wrote:
> On Thu, 6 Aug 2026 12:53:46 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
> 
>> Trump still thinks that isolation is possible or even desirable in the
>> 21st century
> 
> He obviously doesn't believe that or he wouldn't be screwing around in
> West Asia.
Trump doesn't believe anything really. He is also beyond caring. He just 
says whatever floats into his mind from the last person he talked to.

He has no plan. He just does stuff until the ratings go down, or someone 
stops paying him,  then stops doing it...

He just bluffs and bullshits his way and if some people clap he knows he 
said the right thing. He wont DO any of it mind you.

It's all fluff and bollocks.


-- 
In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice.
In practice, there is.
-- Yogi Berra

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#89670

The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> On 05/08/2026 23:59, Computer Nerd Kev wrote:
>> The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>> Once I ordered like $120 worth of small parts from a US supplier.
>>> The transport, import duty, VAT  and handling charges doubled that.
>>>
>>> I can import small stuff from china with none of that.
>> 
>> I guess you actually believe the postage quotes on sites like
>> AliExpress then? 
> 
> No need.  They have proved to be 100% accurate

"Accurate"? Well if you mean they charge you the same as what's
shown then yes. If you mean it's always what they actually pay
to send your item then you're being fooled.

>> In that case I'll bet some Chinese seller there
>> has a RPi Zero for something like $10, but with $60 for delivery,
>> while another has one for $60 and $10 delivery. Pick the deal that
>> looks best to you!
>> 
> Nope. Ive bought a ton of stuff from Aliexpress. The more usual 'scam' 
> is to advertise say a Pi zero for 80c, but when you go to the page 
> that's just the plastic case...if you want a PCB and chips with that its 
> $20 :-)

Yes, seen plenty of that, but I find the fake postage charges are
more common. The thing off AliExpress that's waiting at the post
office for me today is a prime example, where the same item is
listed by two sellers on AliExpress, one appearing cheaper than the
other on the search page. But the postage on the cheap one was
significantly more than the other, so the higher-priced one was
really much cheaper. In this case it was also really obvious in
spite of the different listing images that the two sellers were
really the same person/company, because both listings had the same
typo in the title!

As well as the seller, AliExpress themselves tried to scam me again
this time by offering a coupon discount for ordering more than a
certain total amount at once. Add the coupon, go through PayPal
(not credit card) for payment, _then_ up comes a pop-up (actually
along with another meaningless error pop-up, but that's typical
because their website is as terriby made as half of the junk
that's sold there), to say that the coupon has expired, and raises
the price. Obviously you're expected to have added extra things to
your cart to reach a greater coupon discount teir, then when you
see that message you're meant shrug and go ahead ordering the extra
junk you added at full price anyway.

The blatant dishonesty does put me off a lot of the time, but
sometimes AliExpress is still a lot cheaper than even Chinese
sellers on Ebay, who are no more honest anyway (although I do have
marginally more faith in Ebay themselves). Plus some manufacturers
such as, (back on topic) Banana Pi, use it as their official store.

> Another one was for an excavator for $1500 - that turned out to be the 
> deposit on one to be delivered later at a total cost of 
> $12000...depending on options
> 
>> True most companies in the USA do want at least twice as much to
>> send things to me in Australia as it costs me to send things to the
>> USA. But it's not half as bad as the UK where the costs often start
>> at over $100 to send anything to Aus these days. Though I guess
>> because many UK/USA companies insist on only sending international
>> orders by courier for some reason. Courier services can be
>> expensive from China as well. Most couriers now just hand over to
>> the local postal service once the parcel reaches Aus so I still
>> have to drive to town to pick the thing up from the post office
>> myself anyway.
>> 
> Too many vendors got their fingers burned sending by international post. 
> Parcels just 'disappeared'

Like I say, many go over to local post once they get here now, so
they're just as likely to disappear at that stage. They probably
get insurance included to cover refunds in such cases, but you can
get that from the local postal service for international parcels
sent through them anyway (though it can take months to work through
the process of making a claim).

> I couriered some documents to my niece in South Africa for just ?20 took 
> tow days only!

Actually when they were really coming by courier, parcels usually
got to the nearest city really quick, then waited there for a
couple of weeks until they got around to making the expedition out
to where I live. Delivering to the post office does often work out
quicker in that regard. However the thing is I'm almost never in a
hurry in the first place - I'm forced to pay triple the cost to get
something (at least to the nearest city) next week, then it sits
around for a week or two before I get up to the stage of needing it
for whatever project I'm working on anyway. Or it just costs so
much that I don't order at all.

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#89537

On Tue, 4 Aug 2026 00:53:21 -0400, c186282 wrote:

> Just checked. $79 USD on Amazon. Just the bare board, no accessories.
> 
> Weren't these things supposed to be under $10 ???
> 
> Wow !
> 
> Memory chip production redirection surely plays its part - but beyond
> even that ...
> 
> A 2-Zero is SUPPOSED to be the next thing to electronic NOTHING. What
> the fuck has happened ???

https://www.howtogeek.com/the-raspberry-pis-reign-is-quietly-ending/

The Canakit link shows the bare board as sold out.

https://www.amazon.com/SANOOV-Raspberry-Aluminum-Heatsink-HDMI-USB/dp/
B0FX3SCP5F

$78 with a heat sink and a couple of adapters. The price history graph 
isn't the greatest but it looks like about $30 in March. Then it took off, 
gaining $14 in the last 30 days.

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#89541

rbowman wrote:

> c186282 wrote:
> 
>> Just checked. $79 USD on Amazon. Just the bare board, no accessories.
>> Weren't these things supposed to be under $10 ???
>
> https://www.amazon.com/SANOOV-Raspberry-Aluminum-Heatsink-HDMI-USB/dp/
> B0FX3SCP5F
> 
> $78 with a heat sink and a couple of adapters. The price history graph
> isn't the greatest but it looks like about $30 in March. Then it took off,
> gaining $14 in the last 30 days.

Find a better place to buy?  I see them from $15 at digikey in the USA

<https://rpilocator.com/?country=US&cat=PIZERO2>

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#89552

On Tue, 4 Aug 2026 08:45:04 +0100, Andy Burns wrote:

> rbowman wrote:
> 
>> c186282 wrote:
>> 
>>> Just checked. $79 USD on Amazon. Just the bare board, no accessories.
>>> Weren't these things supposed to be under $10 ???
>>
>> https://www.amazon.com/SANOOV-Raspberry-Aluminum-Heatsink-HDMI-USB/dp/
>> B0FX3SCP5F
>> 
>> $78 with a heat sink and a couple of adapters. The price history graph
>> isn't the greatest but it looks like about $30 in March. Then it took
>> off,
>> gaining $14 in the last 30 days.
> 
> Find a better place to buy?  I see them from $15 at digikey in the USA
> 
> <https://rpilocator.com/?country=US&cat=PIZERO2>

If you go to DigiKey's site you'll find there are 0 in stock. There is a 
'check lead time' option that says they will be available 6/7/2027.

I've seen this in the early '80s when lead times were a year or more. 
Before starting a design you researched what you could buy. Motorola was 
particularly bad as they responded to increased demand in the automotive 
industry as cars became more sophisticated. 

The Amazon pricing probably reflects a vendor who has stock on hand and is 
gouging for all they're worth, or should I say responding to the law of 
supply and demand. 

The problem is if Part B is designed in because of temporary shortage of 
Part A, there is little future incentive to go back to Part A. 

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#89554

rbowman wrote:

> Andy Burns wrote:
> 
>> Find a better place to buy?  I see them from $15 at digikey in the USA
>>
>> <https://rpilocator.com/?country=US&cat=PIZERO2>
> 
> If you go to DigiKey's site you'll find there are 0 in stock. There is a
> 'check lead time' option that says they will be available 6/7/2027.

I did, but the locator site said they had stock yesterday, not sure if 
they actually did or not?  I did manage to buy a zero a couple of weeks 
ago within the UK (both non-W and 2W were available at that time, I 
specifically didn't want a 2W)

> I've seen this in the early '80s when lead times were a year or more.
> Before starting a design you researched what you could buy. Motorola was
> particularly bad as they responded to increased demand in the automotive
> industry as cars became more sophisticated.
> 
> The Amazon pricing probably reflects a vendor who has stock on hand and is
> gouging for all they're worth, or should I say responding to the law of
> supply and demand.

If you look at the feedback of the marketplace supplier, there 1 star 
reviews from people calling them cunts, so I'd probably avoid ...

> The problem is if Part B is designed in because of temporary shortage of
> Part A, there is little future incentive to go back to Part A.

As someone mentioned maybe Ukraine and/or Russia are buying them up?

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#89577

On 8/4/26 13:43, Andy Burns wrote:
> rbowman wrote:
> 
>> Andy Burns wrote:
>>
>>> Find a better place to buy?  I see them from $15 at digikey in the USA
>>>
>>> <https://rpilocator.com/?country=US&cat=PIZERO2>
>>
>> If you go to DigiKey's site you'll find there are 0 in stock. There is a
>> 'check lead time' option that says they will be available 6/7/2027.
> 
> I did, but the locator site said they had stock yesterday, not sure if 
> they actually did or not?  I did manage to buy a zero a couple of weeks 
> ago within the UK (both non-W and 2W were available at that time, I 
> specifically didn't want a 2W)

   USA has NO real equivs to the PI line.

   Maybe should, but doesn't.

   The current trade wars/adjustments ... things
   like PIs just got SCREWED. Short supplies,
   inflated prices.

   It WILL get better, but not THIS year.

   Oh, price MEMORY - SDs/M.2/etc - almost
   the ENTIRE world production has been
   shifted towards the "AI" market. For
   Joe Consumer - NADA !

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#89584

c186282 wrote:

>    The current trade wars/adjustments ... things
>    like PIs just got SCREWED. Short supplies,
>    inflated prices.

They were screwed a couple of years ago (pandemic) and had got back to 
normalish, now AI sucking up RAM and flash production.

Personally I think the Pi5 has got too big for its boots.

>    It WILL get better, but not THIS year.
> 
>    Oh, price MEMORY - SDs/M.2/etc - almost
>    the ENTIRE world production has been
>    shifted towards the "AI" market. For
>    Joe Consumer - NADA !

My hope is that big-AI realises it's not making profits and gives up, no 
doubt a second wave would step-in thinking they could do better ...

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#89592

On 05/08/2026 09:27, Andy Burns wrote:
> My hope is that big-AI realises it's not making profits and gives up, no 
> doubt a second wave would step-in thinking they could do better ...

I am not sure that big AI will ever prove profitable.

A decade ago I was briefly involved with LCD panel economics. Not one of 
the half dozen panel manufacturers had repaid the debt they accrued to 
build the factories.

The hope was that LCD panel manufacture would be like nuclear power 
stations - all the profit happened after the first 20 years of operation.

But nukes provide something the world needs and wants. I am not sure AI 
does.


-- 
No Apple devices were knowingly used in the preparation of this post.

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#89591

On 04/08/2026 18:43, Andy Burns wrote:
> rbowman wrote:
> 
>> Andy Burns wrote:
>>
>>> Find a better place to buy?  I see them from $15 at digikey in the USA
>>>
>>> <https://rpilocator.com/?country=US&cat=PIZERO2>
>>
>> If you go to DigiKey's site you'll find there are 0 in stock. There is a
>> 'check lead time' option that says they will be available 6/7/2027.
> 
> I did, but the locator site said they had stock yesterday, not sure if 
> they actually did or not?  I did manage to buy a zero a couple of weeks 
> ago within the UK (both non-W and 2W were available at that time, I 
> specifically didn't want a 2W)
> 
My local supplier hasnt a single zero of any sort in stock

>> I've seen this in the early '80s when lead times were a year or more.
>> Before starting a design you researched what you could buy. Motorola was
>> particularly bad as they responded to increased demand in the automotive
>> industry as cars became more sophisticated.
>>
>> The Amazon pricing probably reflects a vendor who has stock on hand 
>> and is
>> gouging for all they're worth, or should I say responding to the law of
>> supply and demand.
> 
> If you look at the feedback of the marketplace supplier, there 1 star 
> reviews from people calling them cunts, so I'd probably avoid ...
> 
Handy sort of review...

>> The problem is if Part B is designed in because of temporary shortage of
>> Part A, there is little future incentive to go back to Part A.
> 
There are still PI 3s available

> As someone mentioned maybe Ukraine and/or Russia are buying them up?
> 
Why wouldn't they?

-- 
Climate Change: Socialism wearing a lab coat.

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#89574

On 8/4/26 13:23, rbowman wrote:
> On Tue, 4 Aug 2026 08:45:04 +0100, Andy Burns wrote:
> 
>> rbowman wrote:
>>
>>> c186282 wrote:
>>>
>>>> Just checked. $79 USD on Amazon. Just the bare board, no accessories.
>>>> Weren't these things supposed to be under $10 ???
>>>
>>> https://www.amazon.com/SANOOV-Raspberry-Aluminum-Heatsink-HDMI-USB/dp/
>>> B0FX3SCP5F
>>>
>>> $78 with a heat sink and a couple of adapters. The price history graph
>>> isn't the greatest but it looks like about $30 in March. Then it took
>>> off,
>>> gaining $14 in the last 30 days.
>>
>> Find a better place to buy?  I see them from $15 at digikey in the USA
>>
>> <https://rpilocator.com/?country=US&cat=PIZERO2>
> 
> If you go to DigiKey's site you'll find there are 0 in stock. There is a
> 'check lead time' option that says they will be available 6/7/2027.
ust

   The current "trade adjustments" have had
   an effect. Alas a lot of stuff that was
   NOT a drag on the USA got caught up in
   this shit. "Collateral Damage".

   It WILL improve ... but not THIS year.

   USA, alas, has NOTHING like PIs. Should, but
   doesn't. Everything HERE is now kinda dedicated
   to "AI" - can't even get Mem/Storage.

   DID try an "Orange PI" ... it was NOT really
   "compatible" though. Could FORCE it to kind-
   of work ... but ......

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#89585

c186282 wrote:

>    DID try an "Orange PI" ... it was NOT really
>    "compatible" though. Could FORCE it to kind-
>    of work ... but ......

All the banana/orange pis are at a disadvantage they just don't have the 
level of support that raspberry have behind them.

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#89597

On 05/08/2026 09:29, Andy Burns wrote:
> c186282 wrote:
> 
>>    DID try an "Orange PI" ... it was NOT really
>>    "compatible" though. Could FORCE it to kind-
>>    of work ... but ......
> 
> All the banana/orange pis are at a disadvantage they just don't have the 
> level of support that raspberry have behind them.
> 
+1

-- 
"A point of view can be a dangerous luxury when substituted for insight 
and understanding".

Marshall McLuhan

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#89589

On 04/08/2026 18:23, rbowman wrote:
> The problem is if Part B is designed in because of temporary shortage of
> Part A, there is little future incentive to go back to Part A.

Indeed.

Some huge marketing failures hinge on that particular point

-- 
The New Left are the people they warned you about.

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#89568

On 8/4/26 03:00, rbowman wrote:
> On Tue, 4 Aug 2026 00:53:21 -0400, c186282 wrote:
> 
>> Just checked. $79 USD on Amazon. Just the bare board, no accessories.
>>
>> Weren't these things supposed to be under $10 ???
>>
>> Wow !
>>
>> Memory chip production redirection surely plays its part - but beyond
>> even that ...
>>
>> A 2-Zero is SUPPOSED to be the next thing to electronic NOTHING. What
>> the fuck has happened ???
> 
> https://www.howtogeek.com/the-raspberry-pis-reign-is-quietly-ending/
> 
> The Canakit link shows the bare board as sold out.
> 
> https://www.amazon.com/SANOOV-Raspberry-Aluminum-Heatsink-HDMI-USB/dp/
> B0FX3SCP5F
> 
> $78 with a heat sink and a couple of adapters. The price history graph
> isn't the greatest but it looks like about $30 in March. Then it took off,
> gaining $14 in the last 30 days.

   What I saw was BARE BOARD - no 'accessories'.

   These prices will alienate US customers rather
   badly - 300 million of them. PIs are no longer
   an 'affordable' path to anything.

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