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Not Much LINUX Stuff of Late

Started byc186282 <c186282@nnada.net>
First post2026-07-26 01:09 -0400
Last post2026-07-27 20:04 +0200
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  Not Much LINUX Stuff of Late c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-07-26 01:09 -0400
    Re: Not Much LINUX Stuff of Late rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-07-26 07:22 +0000
      Re: Not Much LINUX Stuff of Late c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-07-26 20:37 -0400
        Re: Not Much LINUX Stuff of Late rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-07-27 01:16 +0000
    Re: Not Much LINUX Stuff of Late John McCue <jmclnx@gmail.com.invalid> - 2026-07-26 20:00 +0000
      Re: Not Much LINUX Stuff of Late "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-07-26 22:40 +0200
        Re: Not Much LINUX Stuff of Late c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-07-26 21:10 -0400
      Re: Not Much LINUX Stuff of Late Farley Flud <ff@gnulinux.rocks> - 2026-07-26 21:24 +0000
        Re: Not Much LINUX Stuff of Late rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-07-27 01:02 +0000
          Re: Not Much LINUX Stuff of Late Farley Flud <ff@gnulinux.rocks> - 2026-07-27 02:59 +0000
            Re: Not Much LINUX Stuff of Late c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-07-26 23:18 -0400
            Re: Not Much LINUX Stuff of Late Epherma <epherma@remort.app.invalid> - 2026-07-26 20:31 -0700
              Re: Not Much LINUX Stuff of Late Farley Flud <ff@gnulinux.rocks> - 2026-07-27 04:35 +0000
                Re: Not Much LINUX Stuff of Late The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-27 06:37 +0100
                  Re: Not Much LINUX Stuff of Late c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-07-27 23:45 -0400
                    Re: Not Much LINUX Stuff of Late rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-07-28 18:10 +0000
                    Re: Not Much LINUX Stuff of Late Farley Flud <ff@gnulinux.rocks> - 2026-07-28 19:52 +0000
                  Re: Not Much LINUX Stuff of Late Farley Flud <ff@gnulinux.rocks> - 2026-07-28 15:17 +0000
                    Re: Not Much LINUX Stuff of Late The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-28 16:22 +0100
                Re: Not Much LINUX Stuff of Late Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2026-07-27 11:51 -0400
                  Re: Not Much LINUX Stuff of Late Farley Flud <ff@gnulinux.rocks> - 2026-07-27 16:22 +0000
                    Re: Not Much LINUX Stuff of Late Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2026-07-29 08:25 -0400
                      Re: Not Much LINUX Stuff of Late John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-07-29 08:04 -0700
                        Re: Not Much LINUX Stuff of Late The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-29 16:09 +0100
                          Re: Not Much LINUX Stuff of Late Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-29 20:33 +0100
                            Re: Not Much LINUX Stuff of Late rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-07-29 23:35 +0000
                        Re: Not Much LINUX Stuff of Late "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-07-29 19:08 +0200
                          Re: Not Much LINUX Stuff of Late John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-07-29 10:32 -0700
                            Re: Not Much LINUX Stuff of Late "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-07-29 20:10 +0200
                            Re: Not Much LINUX Stuff of Late rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-07-29 18:46 +0000
                              Re: Not Much LINUX Stuff of Late John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-07-29 12:32 -0700
                            Re: Not Much LINUX Stuff of Late Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-07-29 18:47 +0000
                              Re: Not Much LINUX Stuff of Late c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-07-29 23:41 -0400
                              Flawed stereotypical joke (was: Re: Not Much LINUX Stuff of Late) Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-31 12:31 +0100
                            Re: Not Much LINUX Stuff of Late Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam2616@zugschl.us> - 2026-07-29 22:54 +0200
                          Re: Not Much Linux Stuff of Late Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-07-29 23:30 +0000
                          Re: Not Much LINUX Stuff of Late Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-31 12:37 +0100
                            Re: Not Much LINUX Stuff of Late "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-07-31 14:37 +0200
                              Re: Not Much LINUX Stuff of Late rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-07-31 19:32 +0000
                            Re: Not Much LINUX Stuff of Late Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-08-01 21:11 +0000
                              Re: Not Much LINUX Stuff of Late Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-08-01 21:54 +0000
                                Re: Not Much Linux Stuff of Late Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-08-01 23:46 +0000
                                  Re: Not Much Linux Stuff of Late Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-08-02 01:34 +0000
                                    Re: Not Much Linux Stuff of Late c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-01 23:40 -0400
                                  Re: Not Much Linux Stuff of Late Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-02 08:52 +0100
                                Re: Not Much LINUX Stuff of Late c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-01 23:57 -0400
                              Re: Not Much LINUX Stuff of Late rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-02 00:52 +0000
                              Re: Not Much LINUX Stuff of Late Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam2616@zugschl.us> - 2026-08-02 06:03 +0200
                                Re: Not Much LINUX Stuff of Late Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-08-02 05:23 +0000
                                  Re: Not Much LINUX Stuff of Late c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-02 01:38 -0400
                                  Re: Not Much LINUX Stuff of Late Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam2616@zugschl.us> - 2026-08-02 08:41 +0200
                                    Re: Not Much Linux Stuff of Late Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-08-02 09:44 +0000
                                      Re: Not Much Linux Stuff of Late Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam2616@zugschl.us> - 2026-08-02 15:29 +0200
                        Re: Not Much LINUX Stuff of Late rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-07-29 18:42 +0000
                          Re: Not Much LINUX Stuff of Late c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-07-29 23:38 -0400
                            Re: Not Much LINUX Stuff of Late rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-07-30 04:04 +0000
                              Re: Not Much LINUX Stuff of Late "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-07-30 12:33 +0200
                                Re: Not Much LINUX Stuff of Late rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-07-30 19:03 +0000
                                  Re: Not Much LINUX Stuff of Late "Stanislav N. aka pztrn" <no@email.please> - 2026-07-31 01:54 +0500
                                    Re: Not Much LINUX Stuff of Late Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-07-30 21:13 +0000
                                      Re: Not Much LINUX Stuff of Late vallor <vallor@vallor.earth> - 2026-07-30 23:47 +0000
                                        Re: Not Much LINUX Stuff of Late rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-07-31 04:53 +0000
                                          Re: Not Much LINUX Stuff of Late c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-07-31 01:11 -0400
                                            Re: Not Much LINUX Stuff of Late "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-07-31 14:47 +0200
                                              Re: Not Much LINUX Stuff of Late The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-31 14:47 +0100
                                                Re: Not Much LINUX Stuff of Late "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-08-01 14:22 +0200
                                                  Re: Not Much LINUX Stuff of Late The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-01 14:15 +0100
                                                    Re: Not Much LINUX Stuff of Late rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-01 19:07 +0000
                                                      Re: Not Much LINUX Stuff of Late The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-02 11:14 +0100
                                                        Re: Not Much LINUX Stuff of Late rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-02 20:02 +0000
                                                    Re: Not Much LINUX Stuff of Late Robert Riches <spamtrap42@jacob21819.net> - 2026-08-01 23:46 +0000
                                                      Re: Not Much LINUX Stuff of Late The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-02 11:25 +0100
                                              Re: Not Much LINUX Stuff of Late rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-07-31 19:47 +0000
                                    Re: Not Much LINUX Stuff of Late rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-07-31 04:45 +0000
                                      Re: Not Much LINUX Stuff of Late c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-07-31 01:00 -0400
                                        Re: Not Much LINUX Stuff of Late "Stanislav N. aka pztrn" <no@email.please> - 2026-07-31 10:30 +0500
                                        Re: Not Much LINUX Stuff of Late rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-07-31 07:44 +0000
                                  Re: Not Much LINUX Stuff of Late vallor <vallor@vallor.earth> - 2026-07-30 23:30 +0000
                                    Re: Not Much LINUX Stuff of Late rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-07-31 05:02 +0000
                                      Re: Not Much LINUX Stuff of Late "Stanislav N. aka pztrn" <no@email.please> - 2026-07-31 10:33 +0500
                                        Re: Not Much LINUX Stuff of Late rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-07-31 07:56 +0000
                                        Re: Not Much LINUX Stuff of Late The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-31 12:28 +0100
                                          Re: Not Much LINUX Stuff of Late "Stanislav N. aka pztrn" <no@email.please> - 2026-07-31 17:23 +0500
                                            Re: Not Much LINUX Stuff of Late rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-07-31 20:27 +0000
                                              Re: Not Much LINUX Stuff of Late "Stanislav N. aka pztrn" <no@email.please> - 2026-08-01 02:02 +0500
                                              Re: Not Much LINUX Stuff of Late "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-08-01 14:29 +0200
                                                Re: Not Much LINUX Stuff of Late The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-01 14:17 +0100
                                                  Re: Not Much LINUX Stuff of Late rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-01 18:59 +0000
                                                  Re: Not Much LINUX Stuff of Late "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-08-01 23:15 +0200
                                                  Re: Not Much LINUX Stuff of Late Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-08-01 21:54 +0000
                                                    Re: Not Much LINUX Stuff of Late The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-02 11:20 +0100
                                                      Re: Not Much LINUX Stuff of Late rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-02 20:25 +0000
                                                Re: Not Much LINUX Stuff of Late rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-01 18:51 +0000
                                                  Re: Not Much LINUX Stuff of Late The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-02 11:12 +0100
                                                    Re: Not Much LINUX Stuff of Late rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-02 20:21 +0000
                                                Re: Not Much LINUX Stuff of Late "Stanislav N. aka pztrn" <no@email.please> - 2026-08-01 23:54 +0500
                                                  Re: Not Much LINUX Stuff of Late Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-01 23:39 +0100
                                                    Re: Not Much LINUX Stuff of Late "Stanislav N. aka pztrn" <pztrn@oldproto.invalid> - 2026-08-02 16:45 +0500
                                                      Re: Not Much LINUX Stuff of Late Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-02 14:41 +0100
                                          Re: Not Much LINUX Stuff of Late rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-07-31 20:06 +0000
                                  Re: Not Much LINUX Stuff of Late "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-07-31 14:41 +0200
                                    Re: Not Much LINUX Stuff of Late rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-07-31 19:42 +0000
                                      Re: Not Much LINUX Stuff of Late "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-08-01 14:30 +0200
                        Re: Not Much LINUX Stuff of Late Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2026-07-30 12:34 -0400
                          Re: Not Much LINUX Stuff of Late rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-07-30 19:11 +0000
                            Re: Not Much LINUX Stuff of Late The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-30 21:11 +0100
                          Re: Not Much LINUX Stuff of Late Anton Antimo <anton@safunu.org> - 2026-07-30 14:05 -0300
                            Re: Not Much LINUX Stuff of Late rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-07-31 05:04 +0000
                              Re: Not Much LINUX Stuff of Late c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-07-31 01:31 -0400
                          Re: Not Much LINUX Stuff of Late John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-07-30 14:51 -0700
                            Re: Not Much LINUX Stuff of Late The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-31 12:21 +0100
                              Re: Not Much LINUX Stuff of Late rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-07-31 19:35 +0000
                            Re: Not Much LINUX Stuff of Late Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2026-07-31 12:54 -0400
                              Re: Not Much LINUX Stuff of Late The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-31 19:50 +0100
                                Re: Not Much LINUX Stuff of Late Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2026-08-01 07:53 -0400
                                  Re: Not Much LINUX Stuff of Late The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-01 14:12 +0100
                                  Re: Not Much LINUX Stuff of Late rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-01 18:35 +0000
                                  Re: Not Much LINUX Stuff of Late c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-01 21:32 -0400
                                    Re: Not Much LINUX Stuff of Late The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-02 11:26 +0100
                              Re: Not Much LINUX Stuff of Late rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-07-31 19:05 +0000
                      Re: Not Much LINUX Stuff of Late The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-29 16:07 +0100
              Re: Not Much LINUX Stuff of Late Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-07-27 04:42 +0000
                Another XLibre and/or Wayland subthread (was: Re: Not Much LINUX Stuff of Late) Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-27 08:48 +0100
                  Re: Another XLibre and/or Wayland subthread Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-27 17:19 +0100
                    Re: Another XLibre and/or Wayland subthread Farley Flud <ff@gnulinux.rocks> - 2026-07-27 16:40 +0000
                      Re: Another XLibre and/or Wayland subthread rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-07-27 21:22 +0000
                        Re: Another XLibre and/or Wayland subthread John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-07-27 14:44 -0700
                          Re: Another XLibre and/or Wayland subthread rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-07-27 23:37 +0000
                        Re: Another XLibre and/or Wayland subthread Farley Flud <ff@gnulinux.rocks> - 2026-07-27 21:47 +0000
                          Re: Another XLibre and/or Wayland subthread Farley Flud <ff@gnulinux.rocks> - 2026-07-28 00:24 +0000
                            Re: Another XLibre and/or Wayland subthread rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-07-28 04:23 +0000
                          Re: Another XLibre and/or Wayland subthread rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-07-27 23:46 +0000
                          Re: Another XLibre and/or Wayland subthread The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-28 10:07 +0100
                            Re: Another XLibre and/or Wayland subthread Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-07-29 01:50 +0000
                              Re: Another XLibre and/or Wayland subthread John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-07-29 07:58 -0700
                              Re: Another XLibre and/or Wayland subthread Farley Flud <ff@gnulinux.rocks> - 2026-07-29 18:11 +0000
                                Re: Another XLibre and/or Wayland subthread The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-29 19:16 +0100
                                Re: Another XLibre and/or Wayland subthread rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-07-29 19:21 +0000
                                  Re: Another XLibre and/or Wayland subthread "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-07-29 21:54 +0200
                                    Re: Another XLibre and/or Wayland subthread rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-07-29 23:43 +0000
                                  Re: Another XLibre and/or Wayland subthread Farley Flud <ff@gnulinux.rocks> - 2026-07-29 21:36 +0000
                                    Re: Another XLibre and/or Wayland subthread rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-07-29 23:51 +0000
                            Re: Another XLibre and/or Wayland subthread Farley Flud <ff@gnulinux.rocks> - 2026-07-29 02:32 +0000
                        Re: Another XLibre and/or Wayland subthread Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2026-07-27 17:57 -0400
                          Re: Another XLibre and/or Wayland subthread rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-07-28 00:03 +0000
                        Re: Another XLibre and/or Wayland subthread Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-07-28 04:11 +0000
                          Re: Another XLibre and/or Wayland subthread Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-07-28 04:38 +0000
                          Re: Another XLibre and/or Wayland subthread rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-07-28 18:19 +0000
                          Re: Another XLibre and/or Wayland subthread Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2026-07-29 08:19 -0400
                Re: Not Much LINUX Stuff of Late Farley Flud <ff@gnulinux.rocks> - 2026-07-27 16:11 +0000
                  Re: Not Much LINUX Stuff of Late The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-27 18:27 +0100
            Re: Not Much LINUX Stuff of Late rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-07-27 04:46 +0000
              Re: Not Much LINUX Stuff of Late Farley Flud <ff@gnulinux.rocks> - 2026-07-27 15:47 +0000
              Re: Not Much LINUX Stuff of Late c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-07-27 23:45 -0400
                Re: Not Much LINUX Stuff of Late rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-07-28 18:03 +0000
            Re: Not Much LINUX Stuff of Late The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-27 06:35 +0100
          Re: Not Much LINUX Stuff of Late Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-07-27 16:12 +0000
            Re: Not Much LINUX Stuff of Late rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-07-27 21:07 +0000
        Re: Not Much LINUX Stuff of Late c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-07-26 21:19 -0400
          Re: Not Much LINUX Stuff of Late Farley Flud <ff@gnulinux.rocks> - 2026-07-27 03:08 +0000
            Re: Not Much LINUX Stuff of Late c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-07-26 23:19 -0400
              Re: Not Much LINUX Stuff of Late Farley Flud <ff@gnulinux.rocks> - 2026-07-27 03:30 +0000
              Re: Not Much LINUX Stuff of Late "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-07-27 15:07 +0200
                Re: Not Much LINUX Stuff of Late Farley Flud <ff@gnulinux.rocks> - 2026-07-27 15:48 +0000
                  Re: Not Much LINUX Stuff of Late The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-27 18:27 +0100
                    Re: Not Much LINUX Stuff of Late Farley Flud <ff@gnulinux.rocks> - 2026-07-28 01:02 +0000
                      Re: Not Much LINUX Stuff of Late The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-28 10:10 +0100
                Re: Not Much LINUX Stuff of Late c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-07-28 00:01 -0400
                  Re: Not Much LINUX Stuff of Late The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-28 10:19 +0100
                  Re: Not Much LINUX Stuff of Late "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-07-28 11:37 +0200
                  Re: Not Much LINUX Stuff of Late rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-07-28 17:43 +0000
            Re: Not Much LINUX Stuff of Late Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2026-08-01 18:00 +0000
              Re: Not Much LINUX Stuff of Late FF <fflud@linux.rocks> - 2026-08-01 19:09 +0000
                Re: Not Much LINUX Stuff of Late The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-02 11:15 +0100
                  Re: Not Much LINUX Stuff of Late "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-08-02 14:23 +0200
                    Re: Not Much LINUX Stuff of Late rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-02 20:09 +0000
              Re: Not Much LINUX Stuff of Late c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-01 22:00 -0400
          Re: Not Much LINUX Stuff of Late Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam2616@zugschl.us> - 2026-07-27 16:22 +0200
            Re: Not Much LINUX Stuff of Late Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-07-27 23:07 +0000
            Re: Not Much LINUX Stuff of Late c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-07-28 00:10 -0400
              Re: Not Much LINUX Stuff of Late Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-07-28 04:20 +0000
                Re: Not Much LINUX Stuff of Late Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-07-28 04:40 +0000
                  Re: Not Much LINUX Stuff of Late c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-07-28 23:00 -0400
                    Re: Not Much LINUX Stuff of Late The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-29 09:37 +0100
                    Re: Not Much LINUX Stuff of Late Farley Flud <ff@gnulinux.rocks> - 2026-07-29 18:24 +0000
                Re: Not Much LINUX Stuff of Late Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam2616@zugschl.us> - 2026-07-28 10:48 +0200
                  Re: Not Much LINUX Stuff of Late Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-07-28 22:29 +0000
                    Re: Not Much LINUX Stuff of Late c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-07-28 23:02 -0400
                    Re: Not Much LINUX Stuff of Late Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam2616@zugschl.us> - 2026-07-29 08:36 +0200
                Re: Not Much LINUX Stuff of Late c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-07-28 22:57 -0400
              Re: Not Much LINUX Stuff of Late Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam2616@zugschl.us> - 2026-07-28 10:24 +0200
              Re: Not Much LINUX Stuff of Late The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-28 10:24 +0100
                Re: Not Much LINUX Stuff of Late rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-07-28 17:22 +0000
              Re: Not Much LINUX Stuff of Late rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-07-28 17:16 +0000
      Re: Open-Source Armchair Critics At It Again Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-07-26 22:51 +0000
        Re: Open-Source Armchair Critics At It Again Robert Heller <heller@deepsoft.com> - 2026-07-26 23:27 +0000
          Re: Open-Source Armchair Critics At It Again c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-07-26 21:23 -0400
            Re: Open-Source Armchair Critics At It Again rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-07-27 04:42 +0000
              Re: Open-Source Armchair Critics At It Again c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-07-27 23:43 -0400
                Re: Open-Source Armchair Critics At It Again "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-07-28 11:57 +0200
                  Re: Open-Source Armchair Critics At It Again The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-28 11:06 +0100
                Re: Open-Source Armchair Critics At It Again Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-07-28 15:22 +0000
                  Re: Open-Source Armchair Critics At It Again "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-07-29 19:13 +0200
                    Re: Open-Source Armchair Critics At It Again The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-29 18:17 +0100
                      Re: Open-Source Armchair Critics At It Again "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-07-29 20:07 +0200
                        Re: Open-Source Armchair Critics At It Again The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-29 19:15 +0100
                        Re: Open-Source Armchair Critics At It Again rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-07-29 18:18 +0000
                        Re: Open-Source Armchair Critics At It Again Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-07-29 18:59 +0000
                          Re: Open-Source Armchair Critics At It Again "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-07-29 21:59 +0200
                    Re: Open-Source Armchair Critics At It Again rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-07-29 18:15 +0000
                      Re: Open-Source Armchair Critics At It Again The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-29 19:20 +0100
                      Re: Open-Source Armchair Critics At It Again "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-07-29 20:51 +0200
          Re: Open-Source Armchair Critics At It Again Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-27 09:00 +0100
            Re: Open-Source Armchair Critics At It Again c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-07-27 23:47 -0400
              Re: Open-Source Armchair Critics At It Again The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-28 10:18 +0100
              Re: Open-Source Armchair Critics At It Again rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-07-28 17:11 +0000
                Re: Open-Source Armchair Critics At It Again "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-07-29 19:18 +0200
                  Re: Open-Source Armchair Critics At It Again rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-07-29 18:23 +0000
                    Re: Open-Source Armchair Critics At It Again "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-07-29 20:52 +0200
        Re: Open-Source Armchair Critics At It Again rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-07-27 01:10 +0000
        Re: Open-Source Armchair Critics At It Again Andreas Eder <a_eder_muc@web.de> - 2026-07-27 15:45 +0200
          Re: Open-Source Armchair Critics At It Again Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-07-27 16:16 +0000
          Re: Open-Source Armchair Critics At It Again The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-27 18:24 +0100
            Re: Open-Source Armchair Critics At It Again "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-07-27 19:55 +0200
              Re: Open-Source Armchair Critics At It Again The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-28 09:59 +0100
                Re: Open-Source Armchair Critics At It Again "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-07-28 11:59 +0200
                  Re: Open-Source Armchair Critics At It Again The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-28 11:25 +0100
                    Re: Open-Source Armchair Critics At It Again rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-07-28 17:07 +0000
                    Re: Open-Source Armchair Critics At It Again "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-07-28 22:48 +0200
                  Re: Open-Source Armchair Critics At It Again rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-07-28 17:00 +0000
      Re: Not Much LINUX Stuff of Late rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-07-27 00:59 +0000
        Re: Not Much LINUX Stuff of Late Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-27 08:54 +0100
      Re: Not Much LINUX Stuff of Late c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-07-26 21:08 -0400
        Re: Not Much LINUX Stuff of Late "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-07-27 20:04 +0200

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#89086

Fromc186282 <c186282@nnada.net>
Date2026-07-26 23:19 -0400
Message-ID<DHudnYyoAbTAU_v3nZ2dnZfqnPadnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#89084
On 7/26/26 23:08, Farley Flud wrote:
> On Sun, 26 Jul 2026 21:19:53 -0400, c186282 wrote:
> 
>>
>>     Aww ... I like systemd in many respects. It's
>>     not like the Winders registry, don't see any
>>     INTENTIONAL evil.
>>
> 
> You "don't see" because you are a deluded, and lazy, idiot.

   Ah, 40 years in the industry and I'm an "idiot".

   PLONK !

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#89087

FromFarley Flud <ff@gnulinux.rocks>
Date2026-07-27 03:30 +0000
Message-ID<18c607f4bba83062$20480$821642$802601b3@news.usenetexpress.com>
In reply to#89086
On Sun, 26 Jul 2026 23:19:40 -0400, c186282 wrote:

> 
>    Ah, 40 years in the industry and I'm an "idiot".
> 

I did not realize that a snowflake could possibly survive
that long.




-- 
Gentoo/LFS: Is there any-fucking-thing else?

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#89099

From"Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid>
Date2026-07-27 15:07 +0200
Message-ID<ncp3gbFtql1U1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#89086
On 2026-07-27 05:19, c186282 wrote:
> On 7/26/26 23:08, Farley Flud wrote:
>> On Sun, 26 Jul 2026 21:19:53 -0400, c186282 wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>     Aww ... I like systemd in many respects. It's
>>>     not like the Winders registry, don't see any
>>>     INTENTIONAL evil.
>>>
>>
>> You "don't see" because you are a deluded, and lazy, idiot.
> 
>    Ah, 40 years in the industry and I'm an "idiot".
> 
>    PLONK !
> 

He is a known "character". He hates all distributions, and says people 
using a distribution is stupid, or "a deluded, and lazy, idiot". He is 
the only clever guy because he doesn't use any.

We simply ignore him.

-- 
Cheers,
        Carlos E.R.
        ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;

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#89104

FromFarley Flud <ff@gnulinux.rocks>
Date2026-07-27 15:48 +0000
Message-ID<18c6303ab70a3521$15333$967852$802601b3@news.usenetexpress.com>
In reply to#89099
On Mon, 27 Jul 2026 15:07:23 +0200, Carlos E. R. wrote:

> 
> He is a known "character".
>

And you are a known boorish dago.





-- 
Gentoo/LFS: Is there any-fucking-thing else?

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#89115

FromThe Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid>
Date2026-07-27 18:27 +0100
Message-ID<11484dc$3c3hi$9@dont-email.me>
In reply to#89104
On 27/07/2026 16:48, Farley Flud wrote:
> On Mon, 27 Jul 2026 15:07:23 +0200, Carlos E. R. wrote:
> 
>>
>> He is a known "character".
>>
> 
> And you are a known boorish dago.
> 
> 
Unnecessarily offensive with no meaningful content.

A dago, yes, but boorish, no.
Just has a misguided faith in Socialism which replaces the catholic 
church in the Latin mind

> 

-- 
Climate Change: Socialism wearing a lab coat.

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#89131

FromFarley Flud <ff@gnulinux.rocks>
Date2026-07-28 01:02 +0000
Message-ID<18c64e6c9e6cbfd4$11597$754419$802601b3@news.usenetexpress.com>
In reply to#89115
On Mon, 27 Jul 2026 18:27:08 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

>> 
>> And you are a known boorish dago.
>> 
>> 
> Unnecessarily offensive
> 

Offensiveness always separates the men from the mamma's boys.





-- 
Gentoo/LFS: Is there any-fucking-thing else?

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#89146

FromThe Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid>
Date2026-07-28 10:10 +0100
Message-ID<1149rms$3tkg5$5@dont-email.me>
In reply to#89131
On 28/07/2026 02:02, Farley Flud wrote:
> On Mon, 27 Jul 2026 18:27:08 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
> 
>>>
>>> And you are a known boorish dago.
>>>
>>>
>> Unnecessarily offensive
>>
> 
> Offensiveness always separates the men from the mamma's boys.
> 
> 
Indeed it does.
How IS your momma?

> 
> 
> 

-- 
If I had all the money I've spent on drink...
..I'd spend it on drink.

Sir Henry (at Rawlinson's End)

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#89135

Fromc186282 <c186282@nnada.net>
Date2026-07-28 00:01 -0400
Message-ID<W4udnfwJyew-tPX3nZ2dnZfqn_ednZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#89099
On 7/27/26 09:07, Carlos E. R. wrote:
> On 2026-07-27 05:19, c186282 wrote:
>> On 7/26/26 23:08, Farley Flud wrote:
>>> On Sun, 26 Jul 2026 21:19:53 -0400, c186282 wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>     Aww ... I like systemd in many respects. It's
>>>>     not like the Winders registry, don't see any
>>>>     INTENTIONAL evil.
>>>>
>>>
>>> You "don't see" because you are a deluded, and lazy, idiot.
>>
>>    Ah, 40 years in the industry and I'm an "idiot".
>>
>>    PLONK !
>>
> 
> He is a known "character". He hates all distributions, and says people 
> using a distribution is stupid, or "a deluded, and lazy, idiot". He is 
> the only clever guy because he doesn't use any.
> 
> We simply ignore him.

   I simply plonked him once and for all.

   Now there ARE some people who CAN pretty much
   write their own OS from scratch. This is not a
   bad thing at all, we NEED those kind of people.

   But when they expect EVERYBODY to have such skills
   and obsession or they're "no good/useless" then ...
   now we're into deep 'spectrum' or 'narcissism'.

   Hmmm ... once came across an episode of "Young
   Sheldon" where he went to the university prez
   and declared that "education" ONLY meant vast
   skill at math/sci and nobody else should get
   a diploma. Quantum mechanics or NOTHING. None
   others were 'smart' or 'educated'  :-)

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#89148

FromThe Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid>
Date2026-07-28 10:19 +0100
Message-ID<1149s73$3tkg5$7@dont-email.me>
In reply to#89135
On 28/07/2026 05:01, c186282 wrote:

> 
>    Hmmm ... once came across an episode of "Young
>    Sheldon" where he went to the university prez
>    and declared that "education" ONLY meant vast
>    skill at math/sci and nobody else should get
>    a diploma. Quantum mechanics or NOTHING. None
>    others were 'smart' or 'educated'  :-)
> 
There is an element of truth in that.


-- 
"An intellectual is a person knowledgeable in one field who speaks out 
only in others...”

Tom Wolfe

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#89150

From"Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid>
Date2026-07-28 11:37 +0200
Message-ID<ncrbj2F9t46U1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#89135
On 2026-07-28 06:01, c186282 wrote:
> On 7/27/26 09:07, Carlos E. R. wrote:
>> On 2026-07-27 05:19, c186282 wrote:
>>> On 7/26/26 23:08, Farley Flud wrote:
>>>> On Sun, 26 Jul 2026 21:19:53 -0400, c186282 wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>     Aww ... I like systemd in many respects. It's
>>>>>     not like the Winders registry, don't see any
>>>>>     INTENTIONAL evil.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> You "don't see" because you are a deluded, and lazy, idiot.
>>>
>>>    Ah, 40 years in the industry and I'm an "idiot".
>>>
>>>    PLONK !
>>>
>>
>> He is a known "character". He hates all distributions, and says people 
>> using a distribution is stupid, or "a deluded, and lazy, idiot". He is 
>> the only clever guy because he doesn't use any.
>>
>> We simply ignore him.
> 
>    I simply plonked him once and for all.

Beware that he uses several identities. You have to watch out for his 
traits.

> 
>    Now there ARE some people who CAN pretty much
>    write their own OS from scratch. This is not a
>    bad thing at all, we NEED those kind of people.
> 
>    But when they expect EVERYBODY to have such skills
>    and obsession or they're "no good/useless" then ...
>    now we're into deep 'spectrum' or 'narcissism'.
> 
>    Hmmm ... once came across an episode of "Young
>    Sheldon" where he went to the university prez
>    and declared that "education" ONLY meant vast
>    skill at math/sci and nobody else should get
>    a diploma. Quantum mechanics or NOTHING. None
>    others were 'smart' or 'educated'  :-)
> 

Heh :-)

-- 
Cheers,
        Carlos E.R.
        ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;

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#89163

Fromrbowman <bowman@montana.com>
Date2026-07-28 17:43 +0000
Message-ID<ncs814FovvdU46@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#89135
On Tue, 28 Jul 2026 00:01:28 -0400, c186282 wrote:

>    Hmmm ... once came across an episode of "Young Sheldon" where he went
>    to the university prez and declared that "education" ONLY meant vast
>    skill at math/sci and nobody else should get a diploma. Quantum
>    mechanics or NOTHING. None others were 'smart' or 'educated'

I've seen that IRL. At a school that billed itself as a 'technological 
university' there was a feeling among the 'science' departments that the 
engineers weren't the sharpest knives in the drawer. 

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#89397

FromStéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr>
Date2026-08-01 18:00 +0000
Message-ID<6a6e3436$0$985$426a74cc@news.free.fr>
In reply to#89084
Le 27-07-2026, Farley Flud <ff@gnulinux.rocks> a écrit :
> On Sun, 26 Jul 2026 21:19:53 -0400, c186282 wrote:
>
>> 
>>    Aww ... I like systemd in many respects. It's
>>    not like the Winders registry, don't see any
>>    INTENTIONAL evil.
>> 
>
> You "don't see" because you are a deluded, and lazy, idiot.

You see because you are a deluded, and lazy, idiot.

It's far easier to refuse everything than trying to understand and
learn something.

> You, as well as most other GNU/Linux users, have never performed
> any serious research into the true origins, purpose, and goals of
> systemd, even though you have had many years to so so.

Everything you say about systemd history proves you never understood
anything about what you have read.

> FOSS requires a lot more than just innocent bystanders.

OK, you are useless, but it's all the BEST for FOSS. If you ever try to
do anything, it would become a disaster. 

> Each and every user must become involved in some way, however
> small.

The only involvement you can provide is by staying as far away as
possible from FOSS projects.

-- 
Si vous avez du temps à perdre :
https://scarpet42.gitlab.io

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#89407

FromFF <fflud@linux.rocks>
Date2026-08-01 19:09 +0000
Message-ID<18c7c41b6a734f73$22745$754419$802601b3@news.usenetexpress.com>
In reply to#89397
On 01 Aug 2026 18:00:22 GMT, Stéphane CARPENTIER wrote:

>>
>>>    Aww ... I like systemd in many respects. It's not like the Winders
>>>    registry, don't see any INTENTIONAL evil.
>>> 
> 
> 
> It's far easier to refuse everything than trying to understand and learn
> something.
> 

Your distro supplies systemd.  You could not use anything else.  Unless
your distro supplies it then you are completely lost and helpless.

You could never implement your own init system.  Never.

You support systemd because you could never implement anything else.
Never.

You are stuck with systemd and you are stuck with everything else that
your distro provides.

Poor dumb bastard.

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#89458

FromThe Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid>
Date2026-08-02 11:15 +0100
Message-ID<114n5co$ccdc$10@dont-email.me>
In reply to#89407
On 01/08/2026 20:09, FF wrote:
> On 01 Aug 2026 18:00:22 GMT, Stéphane CARPENTIER wrote:
> 
>>>
>>>>     Aww ... I like systemd in many respects. It's not like the Winders
>>>>     registry, don't see any INTENTIONAL evil.
>>>>
>>
>>
>> It's far easier to refuse everything than trying to understand and learn
>> something.
>>
> 
> Your distro supplies systemd. 
Correct

>  You could not use anything else.  

False

> Unless
> your distro supplies it then you are completely lost and helpless.
> 
False
> You could never implement your own init system.  Never.
> 
False

> You support systemd because you could never implement anything else.
> Never.
> 
False.
> You are stuck with systemd and you are stuck with everything else that
> your distro provides.
> 
No. I accept it, because I want to use my time for other things that 
farting around with linux.

> Poor dumb bastard.
> 
You are.


-- 
For in reason, all government without the consent of the governed is the 
very definition of slavery.

Jonathan Swift

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#89465

From"Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid>
Date2026-08-02 14:23 +0200
Message-ID<nd8r6aFdbe6U1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#89458
On 2026-08-02 12:15, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
> On 01/08/2026 20:09, FF wrote:
>> On 01 Aug 2026 18:00:22 GMT, Stéphane CARPENTIER wrote:
>>
>>>>
>>>>>     Aww ... I like systemd in many respects. It's not like the Winders
>>>>>     registry, don't see any INTENTIONAL evil.
>>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> It's far easier to refuse everything than trying to understand and learn
>>> something.
>>>
>>
>> Your distro supplies systemd. 
> Correct
> 
>>  You could not use anything else. 
> 
> False
> 
>> Unless
>> your distro supplies it then you are completely lost and helpless.
>>
> False
>> You could never implement your own init system.  Never.
>>
> False
> 
>> You support systemd because you could never implement anything else.
>> Never.
>>
> False.
>> You are stuck with systemd and you are stuck with everything else that
>> your distro provides.
>>
> No. I accept it, because I want to use my time for other things that 
> farting around with linux.

That's true for many of us.

> 
>> Poor dumb bastard.
>>
> You are.
> 
> 


-- 
Cheers,
        Carlos E.R.
        ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;

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#89479

Fromrbowman <bowman@montana.com>
Date2026-08-02 20:09 +0000
Message-ID<nd9mfiF4198U15@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#89465
On Sun, 2 Aug 2026 14:23:38 +0200, Carlos E. R. wrote:

> On 2026-08-02 12:15, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>> On 01/08/2026 20:09, FF wrote:
>>> On 01 Aug 2026 18:00:22 GMT, Stéphane CARPENTIER wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>     Aww ... I like systemd in many respects. It's not like the
>>>>>>     Winders registry, don't see any INTENTIONAL evil.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> It's far easier to refuse everything than trying to understand and
>>>> learn something.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Your distro supplies systemd.
>> Correct
>> 
>>>  You could not use anything else.
>> 
>> False
>> 
>>> Unless your distro supplies it then you are completely lost and
>>> helpless.
>>>
>> False
>>> You could never implement your own init system.  Never.
>>>
>> False
>> 
>>> You support systemd because you could never implement anything else.
>>> Never.
>>>
>> False.
>>> You are stuck with systemd and you are stuck with everything else that
>>> your distro provides.
>>>
>> No. I accept it, because I want to use my time for other things that
>> farting around with linux.
> 
> That's true for many of us.

I decided long ago to accept some stuff as magic and get on with my 
interests.  An example is the recent network discussion. I can maintain 
distros but the less attention I have to pay to the OS, the better. For 
that matter almost everything I do on Linux could be done on Windows and 
vice-versa. That makes me an agnostic rather than a True Believer.

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#89425

Fromc186282 <c186282@nnada.net>
Date2026-08-01 22:00 -0400
Message-ID<KR-dnZWVRtWaOPP3nZ2dnZfqnPWdnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#89397
On 8/1/26 14:00, Stéphane CARPENTIER wrote:
> Le 27-07-2026, Farley Flud <ff@gnulinux.rocks> a écrit :
>> On Sun, 26 Jul 2026 21:19:53 -0400, c186282 wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>     Aww ... I like systemd in many respects. It's
>>>     not like the Winders registry, don't see any
>>>     INTENTIONAL evil.
>>>
>>
>> You "don't see" because you are a deluded, and lazy, idiot.
> 
> You see because you are a deluded, and lazy, idiot.
> 
> It's far easier to refuse everything than trying to understand and
> learn something.


   Unnecessary, though MAYbe not undeserved, meanness !

   I've looked into what systemd does and, as much as
   possible, how/why. It's NOT the Winders registry,
   no "NSA Backdoor"s like I saw a far back as Win2k.
   (really ! check it !)

   I mostly use systemd because it will start/watchdog
   my daemons. Then I don't need to write my own watchdogs.

   Anyway, systemd love/hate has become almost a fanatical
   religion these days. IMHO, neither extreme is even close
   to the (current) Truth.

   In theory major evil COULD be put into systemd ... but
   at the same time there are always a lot of people crawling
   into every crevice of the code for their own needs and
   interests ... so it'd be FOUND really really quick.


>> You, as well as most other GNU/Linux users, have never performed
>> any serious research into the true origins, purpose, and goals of
>> systemd, even though you have had many years to so so.
> 
> Everything you say about systemd history proves you never understood
> anything about what you have read.
> 
>> FOSS requires a lot more than just innocent bystanders.
> 
> OK, you are useless, but it's all the BEST for FOSS. If you ever try to
> do anything, it would become a disaster.
> 
>> Each and every user must become involved in some way, however
>> small.
> 
> The only involvement you can provide is by staying as far away as
> possible from FOSS projects.

   Now now ... don't demonize FOSS the same way
   others demonize systemd !  :-)

   In long experience, almost everyone in the Linux
   sphere is TRYING to Do Their Best. Sometimes they
   score, sometimes they don't, mostly it all falls
   in-between somewhere. The more complex Linux and
   add-ons become the harder is is to keep track of
   EVERY thing, EVERY possible interaction.

   Oh well, you CAN run CP/M-86 using VirtualBox ...
   got one of those VMs stashed somewhere ...... may
   take another look ........

   WOULD suggest a DOS-3.x VM however - proper compilers
   for 'C', FORTRAN, COBOL and Pascal can be had for that.
   Turbo Pascal will work too. I *think* the (very) good
   old Aztec 'C' compiler works in CP/M, so there are
   options if you want "ultra-simple". Look around and
   I'm sure you can find VERY old Linux systems too
   that might still boot, or run in a VM. SOMEWHERE in
   The Heap I still have Red Hat - on FLOPPIES.

   So, if the modern world isn't "pure" enough ...

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#89101

FromMarc Haber <mh+usenetspam2616@zugschl.us>
Date2026-07-27 16:22 +0200
Message-ID<1147pi8$1cr17$1@news1.tnib.de>
In reply to#89080
c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> wrote:
>   Look at MX and a few others ... the start-up options
>   allow you to run a systemd or sysV version.

I am very interested in knowing who wastes weeks of their lifetime to
write initscripts for Debian packages. Those people must be real
fanatics.

>> The GNU project needs to make their Hurd kernel a top
>> priority as the future of Linux is total corporate
>> domination with a lack of freedom.
>
>   We need alt development streams.

I think we don't even have enough personpower for ONE decent
development stream.

Greetings
Marc
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#89127

FromLawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid>
Date2026-07-27 23:07 +0000
Message-ID<1148obf$3jt5q$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#89101
On Mon, 27 Jul 2026 16:22:00 +0200, Marc Haber wrote:

> I am very interested in knowing who wastes weeks of their lifetime
> to write initscripts for Debian packages. Those people must be real
> fanatics.

Whoever said “the Unix philosophy is to do one thing and do it well”
never spent any time writing sysvinit scripts ...

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#89136

Fromc186282 <c186282@nnada.net>
Date2026-07-28 00:10 -0400
Message-ID<W4udnf8JyewvtvX3nZ2dnZfqn_ednZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#89101
On 7/27/26 10:22, Marc Haber wrote:
> c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> wrote:
>>    Look at MX and a few others ... the start-up options
>>    allow you to run a systemd or sysV version.
> 
> I am very interested in knowing who wastes weeks of their lifetime to
> write initscripts for Debian packages. Those people must be real
> fanatics.

   Hey, we NEED those fanatics !

   A good init script is worth its weight in gold.

   READ one sometime ... dozens, hundreds, of steps
   and checks and tweaks just to install one stupid
   little utility. The energy/skill to do ALL that
   by hand from memory ... it barely exists.

   Actually, that it's SO difficult to install said
   stupid little utilities these days - doesn't give
   me a good feeling for the future.

   Maybe CP/M wasn't so bad after all  :-)

>>> The GNU project needs to make their Hurd kernel a top
>>> priority as the future of Linux is total corporate
>>> domination with a lack of freedom.
>>
>>    We need alt development streams.
> 
> I think we don't even have enough personpower for ONE decent
> development stream.

   You may be right, alas.

   The enthusiasm for 'free' OS/software isn't what
   it used to be - and there's more MONEY writing
   evil JS spyware for browsers.

   This is kinda why I've been looking into the BSDs
   more of late. They're a bit more driven by 'academic'
   types. There's always been good and bad in that, but
   for the near future the 'good' may very useful.

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