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  Not Much LINUX Stuff of Late c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-07-26 01:09 -0400
    Re: Not Much LINUX Stuff of Late rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-07-26 07:22 +0000
      Re: Not Much LINUX Stuff of Late c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-07-26 20:37 -0400
        Re: Not Much LINUX Stuff of Late rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-07-27 01:16 +0000
    Re: Not Much LINUX Stuff of Late John McCue <jmclnx@gmail.com.invalid> - 2026-07-26 20:00 +0000
      Re: Not Much LINUX Stuff of Late "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-07-26 22:40 +0200
        Re: Not Much LINUX Stuff of Late c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-07-26 21:10 -0400
      Re: Not Much LINUX Stuff of Late Farley Flud <ff@gnulinux.rocks> - 2026-07-26 21:24 +0000
        Re: Not Much LINUX Stuff of Late rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-07-27 01:02 +0000
          Re: Not Much LINUX Stuff of Late Farley Flud <ff@gnulinux.rocks> - 2026-07-27 02:59 +0000
            Re: Not Much LINUX Stuff of Late c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-07-26 23:18 -0400
            Re: Not Much LINUX Stuff of Late Epherma <epherma@remort.app.invalid> - 2026-07-26 20:31 -0700
              Re: Not Much LINUX Stuff of Late Farley Flud <ff@gnulinux.rocks> - 2026-07-27 04:35 +0000
                Re: Not Much LINUX Stuff of Late The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-27 06:37 +0100
                  Re: Not Much LINUX Stuff of Late c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-07-27 23:45 -0400
                    Re: Not Much LINUX Stuff of Late rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-07-28 18:10 +0000
                    Re: Not Much LINUX Stuff of Late Farley Flud <ff@gnulinux.rocks> - 2026-07-28 19:52 +0000
                  Re: Not Much LINUX Stuff of Late Farley Flud <ff@gnulinux.rocks> - 2026-07-28 15:17 +0000
                    Re: Not Much LINUX Stuff of Late The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-28 16:22 +0100
                Re: Not Much LINUX Stuff of Late Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2026-07-27 11:51 -0400
                  Re: Not Much LINUX Stuff of Late Farley Flud <ff@gnulinux.rocks> - 2026-07-27 16:22 +0000
                    Re: Not Much LINUX Stuff of Late Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2026-07-29 08:25 -0400
                      Re: Not Much LINUX Stuff of Late John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-07-29 08:04 -0700
                        Re: Not Much LINUX Stuff of Late The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-29 16:09 +0100
                          Re: Not Much LINUX Stuff of Late Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-29 20:33 +0100
                            Re: Not Much LINUX Stuff of Late rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-07-29 23:35 +0000
                        Re: Not Much LINUX Stuff of Late "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-07-29 19:08 +0200
                          Re: Not Much LINUX Stuff of Late John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-07-29 10:32 -0700
                            Re: Not Much LINUX Stuff of Late "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-07-29 20:10 +0200
                            Re: Not Much LINUX Stuff of Late rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-07-29 18:46 +0000
                              Re: Not Much LINUX Stuff of Late John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-07-29 12:32 -0700
                            Re: Not Much LINUX Stuff of Late Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-07-29 18:47 +0000
                              Re: Not Much LINUX Stuff of Late c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-07-29 23:41 -0400
                            Re: Not Much LINUX Stuff of Late Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam2616@zugschl.us> - 2026-07-29 22:54 +0200
                          Re: Not Much Linux Stuff of Late Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-07-29 23:30 +0000
                        Re: Not Much LINUX Stuff of Late rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-07-29 18:42 +0000
                          Re: Not Much LINUX Stuff of Late c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-07-29 23:38 -0400
                            Re: Not Much LINUX Stuff of Late rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-07-30 04:04 +0000
                              Re: Not Much LINUX Stuff of Late "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-07-30 12:33 +0200
                      Re: Not Much LINUX Stuff of Late The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-29 16:07 +0100
              Re: Not Much LINUX Stuff of Late Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-07-27 04:42 +0000
                Another XLibre and/or Wayland subthread (was: Re: Not Much LINUX Stuff of Late) Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-27 08:48 +0100
                  Re: Another XLibre and/or Wayland subthread Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-27 17:19 +0100
                    Re: Another XLibre and/or Wayland subthread Farley Flud <ff@gnulinux.rocks> - 2026-07-27 16:40 +0000
                      Re: Another XLibre and/or Wayland subthread rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-07-27 21:22 +0000
                        Re: Another XLibre and/or Wayland subthread John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-07-27 14:44 -0700
                          Re: Another XLibre and/or Wayland subthread rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-07-27 23:37 +0000
                        Re: Another XLibre and/or Wayland subthread Farley Flud <ff@gnulinux.rocks> - 2026-07-27 21:47 +0000
                          Re: Another XLibre and/or Wayland subthread Farley Flud <ff@gnulinux.rocks> - 2026-07-28 00:24 +0000
                            Re: Another XLibre and/or Wayland subthread rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-07-28 04:23 +0000
                          Re: Another XLibre and/or Wayland subthread rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-07-27 23:46 +0000
                          Re: Another XLibre and/or Wayland subthread The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-28 10:07 +0100
                            Re: Another XLibre and/or Wayland subthread Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-07-29 01:50 +0000
                              Re: Another XLibre and/or Wayland subthread John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-07-29 07:58 -0700
                              Re: Another XLibre and/or Wayland subthread Farley Flud <ff@gnulinux.rocks> - 2026-07-29 18:11 +0000
                                Re: Another XLibre and/or Wayland subthread The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-29 19:16 +0100
                                Re: Another XLibre and/or Wayland subthread rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-07-29 19:21 +0000
                                  Re: Another XLibre and/or Wayland subthread "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-07-29 21:54 +0200
                                    Re: Another XLibre and/or Wayland subthread rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-07-29 23:43 +0000
                                  Re: Another XLibre and/or Wayland subthread Farley Flud <ff@gnulinux.rocks> - 2026-07-29 21:36 +0000
                                    Re: Another XLibre and/or Wayland subthread rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-07-29 23:51 +0000
                            Re: Another XLibre and/or Wayland subthread Farley Flud <ff@gnulinux.rocks> - 2026-07-29 02:32 +0000
                        Re: Another XLibre and/or Wayland subthread Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2026-07-27 17:57 -0400
                          Re: Another XLibre and/or Wayland subthread rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-07-28 00:03 +0000
                        Re: Another XLibre and/or Wayland subthread Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-07-28 04:11 +0000
                          Re: Another XLibre and/or Wayland subthread Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-07-28 04:38 +0000
                          Re: Another XLibre and/or Wayland subthread rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-07-28 18:19 +0000
                          Re: Another XLibre and/or Wayland subthread Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2026-07-29 08:19 -0400
                Re: Not Much LINUX Stuff of Late Farley Flud <ff@gnulinux.rocks> - 2026-07-27 16:11 +0000
                  Re: Not Much LINUX Stuff of Late The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-27 18:27 +0100
            Re: Not Much LINUX Stuff of Late rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-07-27 04:46 +0000
              Re: Not Much LINUX Stuff of Late Farley Flud <ff@gnulinux.rocks> - 2026-07-27 15:47 +0000
              Re: Not Much LINUX Stuff of Late c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-07-27 23:45 -0400
                Re: Not Much LINUX Stuff of Late rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-07-28 18:03 +0000
            Re: Not Much LINUX Stuff of Late The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-27 06:35 +0100
          Re: Not Much LINUX Stuff of Late Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-07-27 16:12 +0000
            Re: Not Much LINUX Stuff of Late rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-07-27 21:07 +0000
        Re: Not Much LINUX Stuff of Late c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-07-26 21:19 -0400
          Re: Not Much LINUX Stuff of Late Farley Flud <ff@gnulinux.rocks> - 2026-07-27 03:08 +0000
            Re: Not Much LINUX Stuff of Late c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-07-26 23:19 -0400
              Re: Not Much LINUX Stuff of Late Farley Flud <ff@gnulinux.rocks> - 2026-07-27 03:30 +0000
              Re: Not Much LINUX Stuff of Late "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-07-27 15:07 +0200
                Re: Not Much LINUX Stuff of Late Farley Flud <ff@gnulinux.rocks> - 2026-07-27 15:48 +0000
                  Re: Not Much LINUX Stuff of Late The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-27 18:27 +0100
                    Re: Not Much LINUX Stuff of Late Farley Flud <ff@gnulinux.rocks> - 2026-07-28 01:02 +0000
                      Re: Not Much LINUX Stuff of Late The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-28 10:10 +0100
                Re: Not Much LINUX Stuff of Late c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-07-28 00:01 -0400
                  Re: Not Much LINUX Stuff of Late The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-28 10:19 +0100
                  Re: Not Much LINUX Stuff of Late "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-07-28 11:37 +0200
                  Re: Not Much LINUX Stuff of Late rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-07-28 17:43 +0000
          Re: Not Much LINUX Stuff of Late Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam2616@zugschl.us> - 2026-07-27 16:22 +0200
            Re: Not Much LINUX Stuff of Late Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-07-27 23:07 +0000
            Re: Not Much LINUX Stuff of Late c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-07-28 00:10 -0400
              Re: Not Much LINUX Stuff of Late Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-07-28 04:20 +0000
                Re: Not Much LINUX Stuff of Late Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-07-28 04:40 +0000
                  Re: Not Much LINUX Stuff of Late c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-07-28 23:00 -0400
                    Re: Not Much LINUX Stuff of Late The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-29 09:37 +0100
                    Re: Not Much LINUX Stuff of Late Farley Flud <ff@gnulinux.rocks> - 2026-07-29 18:24 +0000
                Re: Not Much LINUX Stuff of Late Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam2616@zugschl.us> - 2026-07-28 10:48 +0200
                  Re: Not Much LINUX Stuff of Late Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-07-28 22:29 +0000
                    Re: Not Much LINUX Stuff of Late c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-07-28 23:02 -0400
                    Re: Not Much LINUX Stuff of Late Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam2616@zugschl.us> - 2026-07-29 08:36 +0200
                Re: Not Much LINUX Stuff of Late c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-07-28 22:57 -0400
              Re: Not Much LINUX Stuff of Late Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam2616@zugschl.us> - 2026-07-28 10:24 +0200
              Re: Not Much LINUX Stuff of Late The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-28 10:24 +0100
                Re: Not Much LINUX Stuff of Late rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-07-28 17:22 +0000
              Re: Not Much LINUX Stuff of Late rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-07-28 17:16 +0000
      Re: Open-Source Armchair Critics At It Again Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-07-26 22:51 +0000
        Re: Open-Source Armchair Critics At It Again Robert Heller <heller@deepsoft.com> - 2026-07-26 23:27 +0000
          Re: Open-Source Armchair Critics At It Again c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-07-26 21:23 -0400
            Re: Open-Source Armchair Critics At It Again rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-07-27 04:42 +0000
              Re: Open-Source Armchair Critics At It Again c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-07-27 23:43 -0400
                Re: Open-Source Armchair Critics At It Again "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-07-28 11:57 +0200
                  Re: Open-Source Armchair Critics At It Again The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-28 11:06 +0100
                Re: Open-Source Armchair Critics At It Again Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-07-28 15:22 +0000
                  Re: Open-Source Armchair Critics At It Again "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-07-29 19:13 +0200
                    Re: Open-Source Armchair Critics At It Again The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-29 18:17 +0100
                      Re: Open-Source Armchair Critics At It Again "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-07-29 20:07 +0200
                        Re: Open-Source Armchair Critics At It Again The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-29 19:15 +0100
                        Re: Open-Source Armchair Critics At It Again rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-07-29 18:18 +0000
                        Re: Open-Source Armchair Critics At It Again Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-07-29 18:59 +0000
                          Re: Open-Source Armchair Critics At It Again "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-07-29 21:59 +0200
                    Re: Open-Source Armchair Critics At It Again rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-07-29 18:15 +0000
                      Re: Open-Source Armchair Critics At It Again The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-29 19:20 +0100
                      Re: Open-Source Armchair Critics At It Again "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-07-29 20:51 +0200
          Re: Open-Source Armchair Critics At It Again Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-27 09:00 +0100
            Re: Open-Source Armchair Critics At It Again c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-07-27 23:47 -0400
              Re: Open-Source Armchair Critics At It Again The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-28 10:18 +0100
              Re: Open-Source Armchair Critics At It Again rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-07-28 17:11 +0000
                Re: Open-Source Armchair Critics At It Again "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-07-29 19:18 +0200
                  Re: Open-Source Armchair Critics At It Again rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-07-29 18:23 +0000
                    Re: Open-Source Armchair Critics At It Again "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-07-29 20:52 +0200
        Re: Open-Source Armchair Critics At It Again rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-07-27 01:10 +0000
        Re: Open-Source Armchair Critics At It Again Andreas Eder <a_eder_muc@web.de> - 2026-07-27 15:45 +0200
          Re: Open-Source Armchair Critics At It Again Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-07-27 16:16 +0000
          Re: Open-Source Armchair Critics At It Again The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-27 18:24 +0100
            Re: Open-Source Armchair Critics At It Again "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-07-27 19:55 +0200
              Re: Open-Source Armchair Critics At It Again The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-28 09:59 +0100
                Re: Open-Source Armchair Critics At It Again "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-07-28 11:59 +0200
                  Re: Open-Source Armchair Critics At It Again The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-28 11:25 +0100
                    Re: Open-Source Armchair Critics At It Again rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-07-28 17:07 +0000
                    Re: Open-Source Armchair Critics At It Again "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-07-28 22:48 +0200
                  Re: Open-Source Armchair Critics At It Again rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-07-28 17:00 +0000
      Re: Not Much LINUX Stuff of Late rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-07-27 00:59 +0000
        Re: Not Much LINUX Stuff of Late Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-27 08:54 +0100
      Re: Not Much LINUX Stuff of Late c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-07-26 21:08 -0400
        Re: Not Much LINUX Stuff of Late "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-07-27 20:04 +0200

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#89087

On Sun, 26 Jul 2026 23:19:40 -0400, c186282 wrote:

> 
>    Ah, 40 years in the industry and I'm an "idiot".
> 

I did not realize that a snowflake could possibly survive
that long.




-- 
Gentoo/LFS: Is there any-fucking-thing else?

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#89099

On 2026-07-27 05:19, c186282 wrote:
> On 7/26/26 23:08, Farley Flud wrote:
>> On Sun, 26 Jul 2026 21:19:53 -0400, c186282 wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>     Aww ... I like systemd in many respects. It's
>>>     not like the Winders registry, don't see any
>>>     INTENTIONAL evil.
>>>
>>
>> You "don't see" because you are a deluded, and lazy, idiot.
> 
>    Ah, 40 years in the industry and I'm an "idiot".
> 
>    PLONK !
> 

He is a known "character". He hates all distributions, and says people 
using a distribution is stupid, or "a deluded, and lazy, idiot". He is 
the only clever guy because he doesn't use any.

We simply ignore him.

-- 
Cheers,
        Carlos E.R.
        ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;

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#89104

On Mon, 27 Jul 2026 15:07:23 +0200, Carlos E. R. wrote:

> 
> He is a known "character".
>

And you are a known boorish dago.





-- 
Gentoo/LFS: Is there any-fucking-thing else?

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#89115

On 27/07/2026 16:48, Farley Flud wrote:
> On Mon, 27 Jul 2026 15:07:23 +0200, Carlos E. R. wrote:
> 
>>
>> He is a known "character".
>>
> 
> And you are a known boorish dago.
> 
> 
Unnecessarily offensive with no meaningful content.

A dago, yes, but boorish, no.
Just has a misguided faith in Socialism which replaces the catholic 
church in the Latin mind

> 

-- 
Climate Change: Socialism wearing a lab coat.

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#89131

On Mon, 27 Jul 2026 18:27:08 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

>> 
>> And you are a known boorish dago.
>> 
>> 
> Unnecessarily offensive
> 

Offensiveness always separates the men from the mamma's boys.





-- 
Gentoo/LFS: Is there any-fucking-thing else?

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#89146

On 28/07/2026 02:02, Farley Flud wrote:
> On Mon, 27 Jul 2026 18:27:08 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
> 
>>>
>>> And you are a known boorish dago.
>>>
>>>
>> Unnecessarily offensive
>>
> 
> Offensiveness always separates the men from the mamma's boys.
> 
> 
Indeed it does.
How IS your momma?

> 
> 
> 

-- 
If I had all the money I've spent on drink...
..I'd spend it on drink.

Sir Henry (at Rawlinson's End)

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#89135

On 7/27/26 09:07, Carlos E. R. wrote:
> On 2026-07-27 05:19, c186282 wrote:
>> On 7/26/26 23:08, Farley Flud wrote:
>>> On Sun, 26 Jul 2026 21:19:53 -0400, c186282 wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>     Aww ... I like systemd in many respects. It's
>>>>     not like the Winders registry, don't see any
>>>>     INTENTIONAL evil.
>>>>
>>>
>>> You "don't see" because you are a deluded, and lazy, idiot.
>>
>>    Ah, 40 years in the industry and I'm an "idiot".
>>
>>    PLONK !
>>
> 
> He is a known "character". He hates all distributions, and says people 
> using a distribution is stupid, or "a deluded, and lazy, idiot". He is 
> the only clever guy because he doesn't use any.
> 
> We simply ignore him.

   I simply plonked him once and for all.

   Now there ARE some people who CAN pretty much
   write their own OS from scratch. This is not a
   bad thing at all, we NEED those kind of people.

   But when they expect EVERYBODY to have such skills
   and obsession or they're "no good/useless" then ...
   now we're into deep 'spectrum' or 'narcissism'.

   Hmmm ... once came across an episode of "Young
   Sheldon" where he went to the university prez
   and declared that "education" ONLY meant vast
   skill at math/sci and nobody else should get
   a diploma. Quantum mechanics or NOTHING. None
   others were 'smart' or 'educated'  :-)

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#89148

On 28/07/2026 05:01, c186282 wrote:

> 
>    Hmmm ... once came across an episode of "Young
>    Sheldon" where he went to the university prez
>    and declared that "education" ONLY meant vast
>    skill at math/sci and nobody else should get
>    a diploma. Quantum mechanics or NOTHING. None
>    others were 'smart' or 'educated'  :-)
> 
There is an element of truth in that.


-- 
"An intellectual is a person knowledgeable in one field who speaks out 
only in others...”

Tom Wolfe

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#89150

On 2026-07-28 06:01, c186282 wrote:
> On 7/27/26 09:07, Carlos E. R. wrote:
>> On 2026-07-27 05:19, c186282 wrote:
>>> On 7/26/26 23:08, Farley Flud wrote:
>>>> On Sun, 26 Jul 2026 21:19:53 -0400, c186282 wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>     Aww ... I like systemd in many respects. It's
>>>>>     not like the Winders registry, don't see any
>>>>>     INTENTIONAL evil.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> You "don't see" because you are a deluded, and lazy, idiot.
>>>
>>>    Ah, 40 years in the industry and I'm an "idiot".
>>>
>>>    PLONK !
>>>
>>
>> He is a known "character". He hates all distributions, and says people 
>> using a distribution is stupid, or "a deluded, and lazy, idiot". He is 
>> the only clever guy because he doesn't use any.
>>
>> We simply ignore him.
> 
>    I simply plonked him once and for all.

Beware that he uses several identities. You have to watch out for his 
traits.

> 
>    Now there ARE some people who CAN pretty much
>    write their own OS from scratch. This is not a
>    bad thing at all, we NEED those kind of people.
> 
>    But when they expect EVERYBODY to have such skills
>    and obsession or they're "no good/useless" then ...
>    now we're into deep 'spectrum' or 'narcissism'.
> 
>    Hmmm ... once came across an episode of "Young
>    Sheldon" where he went to the university prez
>    and declared that "education" ONLY meant vast
>    skill at math/sci and nobody else should get
>    a diploma. Quantum mechanics or NOTHING. None
>    others were 'smart' or 'educated'  :-)
> 

Heh :-)

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#89163

On Tue, 28 Jul 2026 00:01:28 -0400, c186282 wrote:

>    Hmmm ... once came across an episode of "Young Sheldon" where he went
>    to the university prez and declared that "education" ONLY meant vast
>    skill at math/sci and nobody else should get a diploma. Quantum
>    mechanics or NOTHING. None others were 'smart' or 'educated'

I've seen that IRL. At a school that billed itself as a 'technological 
university' there was a feeling among the 'science' departments that the 
engineers weren't the sharpest knives in the drawer. 

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#89101

c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> wrote:
>   Look at MX and a few others ... the start-up options
>   allow you to run a systemd or sysV version.

I am very interested in knowing who wastes weeks of their lifetime to
write initscripts for Debian packages. Those people must be real
fanatics.

>> The GNU project needs to make their Hurd kernel a top
>> priority as the future of Linux is total corporate
>> domination with a lack of freedom.
>
>   We need alt development streams.

I think we don't even have enough personpower for ONE decent
development stream.

Greetings
Marc
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#89127

On Mon, 27 Jul 2026 16:22:00 +0200, Marc Haber wrote:

> I am very interested in knowing who wastes weeks of their lifetime
> to write initscripts for Debian packages. Those people must be real
> fanatics.

Whoever said “the Unix philosophy is to do one thing and do it well”
never spent any time writing sysvinit scripts ...

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#89136

On 7/27/26 10:22, Marc Haber wrote:
> c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> wrote:
>>    Look at MX and a few others ... the start-up options
>>    allow you to run a systemd or sysV version.
> 
> I am very interested in knowing who wastes weeks of their lifetime to
> write initscripts for Debian packages. Those people must be real
> fanatics.

   Hey, we NEED those fanatics !

   A good init script is worth its weight in gold.

   READ one sometime ... dozens, hundreds, of steps
   and checks and tweaks just to install one stupid
   little utility. The energy/skill to do ALL that
   by hand from memory ... it barely exists.

   Actually, that it's SO difficult to install said
   stupid little utilities these days - doesn't give
   me a good feeling for the future.

   Maybe CP/M wasn't so bad after all  :-)

>>> The GNU project needs to make their Hurd kernel a top
>>> priority as the future of Linux is total corporate
>>> domination with a lack of freedom.
>>
>>    We need alt development streams.
> 
> I think we don't even have enough personpower for ONE decent
> development stream.

   You may be right, alas.

   The enthusiasm for 'free' OS/software isn't what
   it used to be - and there's more MONEY writing
   evil JS spyware for browsers.

   This is kinda why I've been looking into the BSDs
   more of late. They're a bit more driven by 'academic'
   types. There's always been good and bad in that, but
   for the near future the 'good' may very useful.

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#89138

On 2026-07-28, c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> wrote:

>    Actually, that it's SO difficult to install said
>    stupid little utilities these days - doesn't give
>    me a good feeling for the future.

I'm still a fan of static-linked binaries.  No DLL hell,
no installer that has to know where to scatter a myriad
of files, no breakages when a library gets updated.
Just run the one file from anywhere and it Just Works.  

    Perfection is achieved, not when there is nothing more
    to add, but when there is nothing left to take away.
      -- Antoine de Saint-Exupéry

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#89141

On Tue, 28 Jul 2026 04:20:27 GMT, Charlie Gibbs wrote:

> I'm still a fan of static-linked binaries. No DLL hell, no installer
> that has to know where to scatter a myriad of files, no breakages
> when a library gets updated.

To those of us who take for granted that there will be a systemwide
package manager to handle the dependencies and updates, built on an
underlying platform that knows how to handle shared-library
versioning, none of that is a problem.

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#89176

On 7/28/26 00:40, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:
> On Tue, 28 Jul 2026 04:20:27 GMT, Charlie Gibbs wrote:
> 
>> I'm still a fan of static-linked binaries. No DLL hell, no installer
>> that has to know where to scatter a myriad of files, no breakages
>> when a library gets updated.
> 
> To those of us who take for granted that there will be a systemwide
> package manager to handle the dependencies and updates, built on an
> underlying platform that knows how to handle shared-library
> versioning, none of that is a problem.

   Seeing more and more probs with those perfect
   managers though. Still 'ok' by and large but
   I see bitching about missing dependencies, oft
   involving v0.0.1 differences.

   Linux isn't simple enough anymore.

   So, prep "app-images" - all-in-one. Bigger, but
   that's really not a thing these days.

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#89179

On 29/07/2026 04:00, c186282 wrote:
> Linux isn't simple enough anymore.

It's a lot simpler than it used to be

For people who want to actually use it.


-- 
For every complex problem there is an answer that is clear, simple, and 
wrong.

H.L.Mencken

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#89202

On Tue, 28 Jul 2026 23:00:07 -0400, c186282 wrote:

>> 
>> To those of us who take for granted that there will be a systemwide
>> package manager to handle the dependencies and updates, built on an
>> underlying platform that knows how to handle shared-library
>> versioning, none of that is a problem.
> 
>    Seeing more and more probs with those perfect
>    managers though. Still 'ok' by and large but
>    I see bitching about missing dependencies, oft
>    involving v0.0.1 differences.
> 

That would *never* be a problem with Gentoo.

Although Gentoo Portage is extremely reliable in resolving
dependencies it is possible that the user may choose to build
packages outside of the Portage tree which may in time cause
dependency issues.

For this and other reasons, Gentoo has developed "revdep-rebuild"
which is a utility that examines every binary and library that
is installed on the system for consistency.  It never fails
to locate problems which can then be easily corrected.

IMO, Gentoo is the only "distro" worthy of supervising a
GNU/Linux installation.




-- 
Gentoo/LFS: Is there any-fucking-thing else?

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#89143

Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> wrote:
>On 2026-07-28, c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> wrote:
>>    Actually, that it's SO difficult to install said
>>    stupid little utilities these days - doesn't give
>>    me a good feeling for the future.
>
>I'm still a fan of static-linked binaries.  No DLL hell,
>no installer that has to know where to scatter a myriad
>of files, no breakages when a library gets updated.

You are obviously talking about Windows here. The Linux world has
passed that time two decades ago. We have libraries with versioned
symbols, we have versioned package dependencies

>Just run the one file from anywhere and it Just Works.  

... that just works.

If you have difficulties with that, I'd suggest trying Debian, the
Debian project does a pretty decent job with their library
dependencies.

Statically linked binaries, especially those who came "from anywhere"
usually don't get updated, which imposes a significant security risk
to the target system. I'd avoid doing that anyway or at least
container those binaries away.

Greetings
Marc
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#89171

On Tue, 28 Jul 2026 10:48:47 +0200, Marc Haber wrote:

> You are obviously talking about Windows here. The Linux world has
> passed that time two decades ago.

I wonder how long it will be before Windows no longer gets taken
seriously as a development platform? I’d say Microsoft is already
fighting a rearguard action on that front; will the battle be over in,
say, another 5 years?

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