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  Not Much LINUX Stuff of Late c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-07-26 01:09 -0400
    Re: Not Much LINUX Stuff of Late rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-07-26 07:22 +0000
      Re: Not Much LINUX Stuff of Late c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-07-26 20:37 -0400
        Re: Not Much LINUX Stuff of Late rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-07-27 01:16 +0000
    Re: Not Much LINUX Stuff of Late John McCue <jmclnx@gmail.com.invalid> - 2026-07-26 20:00 +0000
      Re: Not Much LINUX Stuff of Late "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-07-26 22:40 +0200
        Re: Not Much LINUX Stuff of Late c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-07-26 21:10 -0400
      Re: Not Much LINUX Stuff of Late Farley Flud <ff@gnulinux.rocks> - 2026-07-26 21:24 +0000
        Re: Not Much LINUX Stuff of Late rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-07-27 01:02 +0000
          Re: Not Much LINUX Stuff of Late Farley Flud <ff@gnulinux.rocks> - 2026-07-27 02:59 +0000
            Re: Not Much LINUX Stuff of Late c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-07-26 23:18 -0400
            Re: Not Much LINUX Stuff of Late Epherma <epherma@remort.app.invalid> - 2026-07-26 20:31 -0700
              Re: Not Much LINUX Stuff of Late Farley Flud <ff@gnulinux.rocks> - 2026-07-27 04:35 +0000
                Re: Not Much LINUX Stuff of Late The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-27 06:37 +0100
                  Re: Not Much LINUX Stuff of Late c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-07-27 23:45 -0400
                    Re: Not Much LINUX Stuff of Late rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-07-28 18:10 +0000
                  Re: Not Much LINUX Stuff of Late Farley Flud <ff@gnulinux.rocks> - 2026-07-28 15:17 +0000
                    Re: Not Much LINUX Stuff of Late The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-28 16:22 +0100
                Re: Not Much LINUX Stuff of Late Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2026-07-27 11:51 -0400
                  Re: Not Much LINUX Stuff of Late Farley Flud <ff@gnulinux.rocks> - 2026-07-27 16:22 +0000
              Re: Not Much LINUX Stuff of Late Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-07-27 04:42 +0000
                Another XLibre and/or Wayland subthread (was: Re: Not Much LINUX Stuff of Late) Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-27 08:48 +0100
                  Re: Another XLibre and/or Wayland subthread Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-27 17:19 +0100
                    Re: Another XLibre and/or Wayland subthread Farley Flud <ff@gnulinux.rocks> - 2026-07-27 16:40 +0000
                      Re: Another XLibre and/or Wayland subthread rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-07-27 21:22 +0000
                        Re: Another XLibre and/or Wayland subthread John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-07-27 14:44 -0700
                          Re: Another XLibre and/or Wayland subthread rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-07-27 23:37 +0000
                        Re: Another XLibre and/or Wayland subthread Farley Flud <ff@gnulinux.rocks> - 2026-07-27 21:47 +0000
                          Re: Another XLibre and/or Wayland subthread Farley Flud <ff@gnulinux.rocks> - 2026-07-28 00:24 +0000
                            Re: Another XLibre and/or Wayland subthread rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-07-28 04:23 +0000
                          Re: Another XLibre and/or Wayland subthread rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-07-27 23:46 +0000
                          Re: Another XLibre and/or Wayland subthread The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-28 10:07 +0100
                        Re: Another XLibre and/or Wayland subthread Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2026-07-27 17:57 -0400
                          Re: Another XLibre and/or Wayland subthread rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-07-28 00:03 +0000
                        Re: Another XLibre and/or Wayland subthread Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-07-28 04:11 +0000
                          Re: Another XLibre and/or Wayland subthread Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-07-28 04:38 +0000
                          Re: Another XLibre and/or Wayland subthread rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-07-28 18:19 +0000
                Re: Not Much LINUX Stuff of Late Farley Flud <ff@gnulinux.rocks> - 2026-07-27 16:11 +0000
                  Re: Not Much LINUX Stuff of Late The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-27 18:27 +0100
            Re: Not Much LINUX Stuff of Late rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-07-27 04:46 +0000
              Re: Not Much LINUX Stuff of Late Farley Flud <ff@gnulinux.rocks> - 2026-07-27 15:47 +0000
              Re: Not Much LINUX Stuff of Late c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-07-27 23:45 -0400
                Re: Not Much LINUX Stuff of Late rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-07-28 18:03 +0000
            Re: Not Much LINUX Stuff of Late The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-27 06:35 +0100
          Re: Not Much LINUX Stuff of Late Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-07-27 16:12 +0000
            Re: Not Much LINUX Stuff of Late rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-07-27 21:07 +0000
        Re: Not Much LINUX Stuff of Late c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-07-26 21:19 -0400
          Re: Not Much LINUX Stuff of Late Farley Flud <ff@gnulinux.rocks> - 2026-07-27 03:08 +0000
            Re: Not Much LINUX Stuff of Late c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-07-26 23:19 -0400
              Re: Not Much LINUX Stuff of Late Farley Flud <ff@gnulinux.rocks> - 2026-07-27 03:30 +0000
              Re: Not Much LINUX Stuff of Late "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-07-27 15:07 +0200
                Re: Not Much LINUX Stuff of Late Farley Flud <ff@gnulinux.rocks> - 2026-07-27 15:48 +0000
                  Re: Not Much LINUX Stuff of Late The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-27 18:27 +0100
                    Re: Not Much LINUX Stuff of Late Farley Flud <ff@gnulinux.rocks> - 2026-07-28 01:02 +0000
                      Re: Not Much LINUX Stuff of Late The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-28 10:10 +0100
                Re: Not Much LINUX Stuff of Late c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-07-28 00:01 -0400
                  Re: Not Much LINUX Stuff of Late The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-28 10:19 +0100
                  Re: Not Much LINUX Stuff of Late "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-07-28 11:37 +0200
                  Re: Not Much LINUX Stuff of Late rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-07-28 17:43 +0000
          Re: Not Much LINUX Stuff of Late Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam2616@zugschl.us> - 2026-07-27 16:22 +0200
            Re: Not Much LINUX Stuff of Late Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-07-27 23:07 +0000
            Re: Not Much LINUX Stuff of Late c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-07-28 00:10 -0400
              Re: Not Much LINUX Stuff of Late Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-07-28 04:20 +0000
                Re: Not Much LINUX Stuff of Late Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-07-28 04:40 +0000
                Re: Not Much LINUX Stuff of Late Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam2616@zugschl.us> - 2026-07-28 10:48 +0200
              Re: Not Much LINUX Stuff of Late Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam2616@zugschl.us> - 2026-07-28 10:24 +0200
              Re: Not Much LINUX Stuff of Late The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-28 10:24 +0100
                Re: Not Much LINUX Stuff of Late rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-07-28 17:22 +0000
              Re: Not Much LINUX Stuff of Late rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-07-28 17:16 +0000
      Re: Open-Source Armchair Critics At It Again Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-07-26 22:51 +0000
        Re: Open-Source Armchair Critics At It Again Robert Heller <heller@deepsoft.com> - 2026-07-26 23:27 +0000
          Re: Open-Source Armchair Critics At It Again c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-07-26 21:23 -0400
            Re: Open-Source Armchair Critics At It Again rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-07-27 04:42 +0000
              Re: Open-Source Armchair Critics At It Again c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-07-27 23:43 -0400
                Re: Open-Source Armchair Critics At It Again "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-07-28 11:57 +0200
                  Re: Open-Source Armchair Critics At It Again The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-28 11:06 +0100
                Re: Open-Source Armchair Critics At It Again Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-07-28 15:22 +0000
          Re: Open-Source Armchair Critics At It Again Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-27 09:00 +0100
            Re: Open-Source Armchair Critics At It Again c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-07-27 23:47 -0400
              Re: Open-Source Armchair Critics At It Again The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-28 10:18 +0100
              Re: Open-Source Armchair Critics At It Again rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-07-28 17:11 +0000
        Re: Open-Source Armchair Critics At It Again rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-07-27 01:10 +0000
        Re: Open-Source Armchair Critics At It Again Andreas Eder <a_eder_muc@web.de> - 2026-07-27 15:45 +0200
          Re: Open-Source Armchair Critics At It Again Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-07-27 16:16 +0000
          Re: Open-Source Armchair Critics At It Again The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-27 18:24 +0100
            Re: Open-Source Armchair Critics At It Again "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-07-27 19:55 +0200
              Re: Open-Source Armchair Critics At It Again The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-28 09:59 +0100
                Re: Open-Source Armchair Critics At It Again "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-07-28 11:59 +0200
                  Re: Open-Source Armchair Critics At It Again The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-28 11:25 +0100
                    Re: Open-Source Armchair Critics At It Again rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-07-28 17:07 +0000
                  Re: Open-Source Armchair Critics At It Again rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-07-28 17:00 +0000
      Re: Not Much LINUX Stuff of Late rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-07-27 00:59 +0000
        Re: Not Much LINUX Stuff of Late Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-27 08:54 +0100
      Re: Not Much LINUX Stuff of Late c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-07-26 21:08 -0400
        Re: Not Much LINUX Stuff of Late "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-07-27 20:04 +0200

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#89103

On 27 Jul 2026 04:46:09 GMT, rbowman wrote:

>> 
>> Even though it was not stated it was certainly implied.  The GNU project
>> needs to develop its own kernel whether it be Hurd or something else.
> 
> The overall point is GNU has not been able to deliver. Why is that?
>

They have delivered.  Hurd is functional at this moment.

Why such slow progress?  As is usual, there are too many spectators,
like you, and not enough participants.




-- 
Gentoo/LFS: Is there any-fucking-thing else?

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#89128

On 7/27/26 00:46, rbowman wrote:
> On Mon, 27 Jul 2026 02:59:44 +0000, Farley Flud wrote:
> 
>> On 27 Jul 2026 01:02:48 GMT, rbowman wrote:
>>
>>> On Sun, 26 Jul 2026 21:24:43 +0000, Farley Flud wrote:
>>>
>>>> The GNU project needs to make their Hurd kernel a top priority as the
>>>> future of Linux is total corporate domination with a lack of freedom.
>>>
>>> The GNU project needs to realize strict microkernels didn't work 0
>>> years ago and still don't work. When ideology meets reality guess which
>>> loses.
>>>
>>>
>> That's not the overall point though, is it?
>>
>> Even though it was not stated it was certainly implied.  The GNU project
>> needs to develop its own kernel whether it be Hurd or something else.
> 
> The overall point is GNU has not been able to deliver. Why is that?


   I think early enthusiasm/energy has faded.

   And there's more MONEY in big commercial projects.

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#89164

On Mon, 27 Jul 2026 23:45:06 -0400, c186282 wrote:

> On 7/27/26 00:46, rbowman wrote:
>> On Mon, 27 Jul 2026 02:59:44 +0000, Farley Flud wrote:
>> 
>>> On 27 Jul 2026 01:02:48 GMT, rbowman wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Sun, 26 Jul 2026 21:24:43 +0000, Farley Flud wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> The GNU project needs to make their Hurd kernel a top priority as
>>>>> the future of Linux is total corporate domination with a lack of
>>>>> freedom.
>>>>
>>>> The GNU project needs to realize strict microkernels didn't work 0
>>>> years ago and still don't work. When ideology meets reality guess
>>>> which loses.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> That's not the overall point though, is it?
>>>
>>> Even though it was not stated it was certainly implied.  The GNU
>>> project needs to develop its own kernel whether it be Hurd or
>>> something else.
>> 
>> The overall point is GNU has not been able to deliver. Why is that?
> 
> 
>    I think early enthusiasm/energy has faded.
> 
>    And there's more MONEY in big commercial projects.

I don't think it's always money. The point made by Raymond, Perens, and 
others early on was if you insist on a purity test that excludes 
commercial enterprises you're cutting yourself off from a considerable 
pool of talent. You can see that with the very short list of FSF 
'approved' distributions. 

Two examples of free and open source framework, bot of which use the very 
permissive MIT license, are Angular and React. Angular was developed at 
Google and React at Meta.

jQuery isn't as clear cut. Resig developed it when he was a student but 
continued to develop it while the Mozilla Corporation was signing his 
paychecks. 

VS Code is a proprietary product developed at Microsoft but Code-OSS is 
open source with the MIT license. The major difference I've found is Code-
OSS has its own extensions repository that doesn't include proprietary MS 
extensions or developers who only placed their products in the MS 
repository.

Remove the contributions by those evil corporations and we'd be back to 
the 20th century.

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#89093

On 27/07/2026 03:59, Farley Flud wrote:
> Only GNU and the FSF can maintain and enforce the concept of free
> and open software.

But only large organisations can *actually realise the implementation* 
of free
and open software.

-- 
Gun Control: The law that ensures that only criminals have guns.

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#89107

On 2026-07-27, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:

> On Sun, 26 Jul 2026 21:24:43 +0000, Farley Flud wrote:
>
>> The GNU project needs to make their Hurd kernel a top priority as the
>> future of Linux is total corporate domination with a lack of freedom.
>
> The GNU project needs to realize strict microkernels didn't work 0 years 
> ago and still don't work. When ideology meets reality guess which loses.

Still, with enough guns you can put it off for a while.  But you're
right, reality is like a rubber band.  You can stretch it a long way,
but eventually it's going to snap back.  And like a rubber band, it
usually hurts when it does.  (The trick for the Powers That Be is to
ensure that it's someone else that gets hurt.)

-- 
/~\  Charlie Gibbs                  |  In this world there are
\ /  <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid>      |  two kinds of people:
 X   I'm really at ac.dekanfrus     |  1. Those who can extrapolate
/ \  if you read it the right way.  |  from incomplete data.

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#89119

On Mon, 27 Jul 2026 16:12:47 GMT, Charlie Gibbs wrote:

> On 2026-07-27, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:
> 
>> On Sun, 26 Jul 2026 21:24:43 +0000, Farley Flud wrote:
>>
>>> The GNU project needs to make their Hurd kernel a top priority as the
>>> future of Linux is total corporate domination with a lack of freedom.
>>
>> The GNU project needs to realize strict microkernels didn't work 0
>> years ago and still don't work. When ideology meets reality guess which
>> loses.
> 
> Still, with enough guns you can put it off for a while.  But you're
> right, reality is like a rubber band.  You can stretch it a long way,
> but eventually it's going to snap back.  And like a rubber band, it
> usually hurts when it does.  (The trick for the Powers That Be is to
> ensure that it's someone else that gets hurt.)

Both Apple and Hurd started with the Mach kernel. Since Apple likes to 
make money they quickly went to a hybrid rather than beat their head 
against the wall for decades.

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#89080

On 7/26/26 17:24, Farley Flud wrote:
> On Sun, 26 Jul 2026 20:00:30 -0000 (UTC), John McCue wrote:
> 
>>
>> For example, users want a browser that blocks ads, no
>> java script, no AI, fast and lite on memory and can read
>> any site without dealing with cloudflare.  What are
>> corporations giving us ?  Nothing but spyware, ads, DRM
>> and soon ID checks.
>>
> 
> There are alternative browsers.  Palemoon is a good example.
> But since browsers have stopped being just a program to
> render HTML markup and have become a portal for executing
> foreign software on user machines, development of an alternative
> browser is almost an impossible task for an independent team.

   Yep, it ain't 1989 anymore. To be even remotely useful
   for most anything browsers have to be very complex,
   sometimes a bit evil too. Just try to use Lynx and
   related on any modern site ... you won't get anywhere.
   Forget buying from Amazon or doing yer banking.

> Web standards, defined by international authorities, should
> be strictly enforced but they are not.  The fault in large
> part lies with the user who does not take the time and effort
> to demand from web sites that they conform.

   I'm never happy with "international authorities".
   Often some sinister/totalitarian shit involved.

>> To me, most distros are very close to becoming an exact
>> clone of M/S Windows or Apple OS.  The way things are
>> going it will be almost impossible to tell these apart
>> in maybe 5 to 10 years.
>>
> 
> Yes.  Quite correct.

   No, Linux can never be a massive clusterfuck
   like Winders !  :-)

> The single thing that is making this monolithicity possible
> is SYSTEMD (that is its purpose).  All the users (i.e. moochers)
> who blindly accept systemd are complicit in this corruption
> of GNU/Linux.

   Aww ... I like systemd in many respects. It's
   not like the Winders registry, don't see any
   INTENTIONAL evil.

> Fortunately, this only applies to "most" distros.  There
> are alternatives but these always will be in the fringe.

   Look at MX and a few others ... the start-up options
   allow you to run a systemd or sysV version. You can
   use grub-customizer to pick yer default, but still
   have the alt easily available.

> Once Torvalds retires, for whatever reason, from his stewardship
> the degeneration of Linux will only accelerate.

   Which is why I'm looking into the BSDs more and more.

> The GNU project needs to make their Hurd kernel a top
> priority as the future of Linux is total corporate
> domination with a lack of freedom.

   We need alt development streams.

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#89084

On Sun, 26 Jul 2026 21:19:53 -0400, c186282 wrote:

> 
>    Aww ... I like systemd in many respects. It's
>    not like the Winders registry, don't see any
>    INTENTIONAL evil.
> 

You "don't see" because you are a deluded, and lazy, idiot.

You, as well as most other GNU/Linux users, have never performed
any serious research into the true origins, purpose, and goals of
systemd, even though you have had many years to so so.

> 
>> The GNU project needs to make their Hurd kernel a top
>> priority as the future of Linux is total corporate
>> domination with a lack of freedom.
> 
>    We need alt development streams.
>

Will you volunteer your programming "talents?"

FOSS requires a lot more than just innocent bystanders.
Each and every user must become involved in some way, however
small.



-- 
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#89086

On 7/26/26 23:08, Farley Flud wrote:
> On Sun, 26 Jul 2026 21:19:53 -0400, c186282 wrote:
> 
>>
>>     Aww ... I like systemd in many respects. It's
>>     not like the Winders registry, don't see any
>>     INTENTIONAL evil.
>>
> 
> You "don't see" because you are a deluded, and lazy, idiot.

   Ah, 40 years in the industry and I'm an "idiot".

   PLONK !

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#89087

On Sun, 26 Jul 2026 23:19:40 -0400, c186282 wrote:

> 
>    Ah, 40 years in the industry and I'm an "idiot".
> 

I did not realize that a snowflake could possibly survive
that long.




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#89099

On 2026-07-27 05:19, c186282 wrote:
> On 7/26/26 23:08, Farley Flud wrote:
>> On Sun, 26 Jul 2026 21:19:53 -0400, c186282 wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>     Aww ... I like systemd in many respects. It's
>>>     not like the Winders registry, don't see any
>>>     INTENTIONAL evil.
>>>
>>
>> You "don't see" because you are a deluded, and lazy, idiot.
> 
>    Ah, 40 years in the industry and I'm an "idiot".
> 
>    PLONK !
> 

He is a known "character". He hates all distributions, and says people 
using a distribution is stupid, or "a deluded, and lazy, idiot". He is 
the only clever guy because he doesn't use any.

We simply ignore him.

-- 
Cheers,
        Carlos E.R.
        ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;

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#89104

On Mon, 27 Jul 2026 15:07:23 +0200, Carlos E. R. wrote:

> 
> He is a known "character".
>

And you are a known boorish dago.





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#89115

On 27/07/2026 16:48, Farley Flud wrote:
> On Mon, 27 Jul 2026 15:07:23 +0200, Carlos E. R. wrote:
> 
>>
>> He is a known "character".
>>
> 
> And you are a known boorish dago.
> 
> 
Unnecessarily offensive with no meaningful content.

A dago, yes, but boorish, no.
Just has a misguided faith in Socialism which replaces the catholic 
church in the Latin mind

> 

-- 
Climate Change: Socialism wearing a lab coat.

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#89131

On Mon, 27 Jul 2026 18:27:08 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

>> 
>> And you are a known boorish dago.
>> 
>> 
> Unnecessarily offensive
> 

Offensiveness always separates the men from the mamma's boys.





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#89146

On 28/07/2026 02:02, Farley Flud wrote:
> On Mon, 27 Jul 2026 18:27:08 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
> 
>>>
>>> And you are a known boorish dago.
>>>
>>>
>> Unnecessarily offensive
>>
> 
> Offensiveness always separates the men from the mamma's boys.
> 
> 
Indeed it does.
How IS your momma?

> 
> 
> 

-- 
If I had all the money I've spent on drink...
..I'd spend it on drink.

Sir Henry (at Rawlinson's End)

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#89135

On 7/27/26 09:07, Carlos E. R. wrote:
> On 2026-07-27 05:19, c186282 wrote:
>> On 7/26/26 23:08, Farley Flud wrote:
>>> On Sun, 26 Jul 2026 21:19:53 -0400, c186282 wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>     Aww ... I like systemd in many respects. It's
>>>>     not like the Winders registry, don't see any
>>>>     INTENTIONAL evil.
>>>>
>>>
>>> You "don't see" because you are a deluded, and lazy, idiot.
>>
>>    Ah, 40 years in the industry and I'm an "idiot".
>>
>>    PLONK !
>>
> 
> He is a known "character". He hates all distributions, and says people 
> using a distribution is stupid, or "a deluded, and lazy, idiot". He is 
> the only clever guy because he doesn't use any.
> 
> We simply ignore him.

   I simply plonked him once and for all.

   Now there ARE some people who CAN pretty much
   write their own OS from scratch. This is not a
   bad thing at all, we NEED those kind of people.

   But when they expect EVERYBODY to have such skills
   and obsession or they're "no good/useless" then ...
   now we're into deep 'spectrum' or 'narcissism'.

   Hmmm ... once came across an episode of "Young
   Sheldon" where he went to the university prez
   and declared that "education" ONLY meant vast
   skill at math/sci and nobody else should get
   a diploma. Quantum mechanics or NOTHING. None
   others were 'smart' or 'educated'  :-)

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#89148

On 28/07/2026 05:01, c186282 wrote:

> 
>    Hmmm ... once came across an episode of "Young
>    Sheldon" where he went to the university prez
>    and declared that "education" ONLY meant vast
>    skill at math/sci and nobody else should get
>    a diploma. Quantum mechanics or NOTHING. None
>    others were 'smart' or 'educated'  :-)
> 
There is an element of truth in that.


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only in others...”

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#89150

On 2026-07-28 06:01, c186282 wrote:
> On 7/27/26 09:07, Carlos E. R. wrote:
>> On 2026-07-27 05:19, c186282 wrote:
>>> On 7/26/26 23:08, Farley Flud wrote:
>>>> On Sun, 26 Jul 2026 21:19:53 -0400, c186282 wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>     Aww ... I like systemd in many respects. It's
>>>>>     not like the Winders registry, don't see any
>>>>>     INTENTIONAL evil.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> You "don't see" because you are a deluded, and lazy, idiot.
>>>
>>>    Ah, 40 years in the industry and I'm an "idiot".
>>>
>>>    PLONK !
>>>
>>
>> He is a known "character". He hates all distributions, and says people 
>> using a distribution is stupid, or "a deluded, and lazy, idiot". He is 
>> the only clever guy because he doesn't use any.
>>
>> We simply ignore him.
> 
>    I simply plonked him once and for all.

Beware that he uses several identities. You have to watch out for his 
traits.

> 
>    Now there ARE some people who CAN pretty much
>    write their own OS from scratch. This is not a
>    bad thing at all, we NEED those kind of people.
> 
>    But when they expect EVERYBODY to have such skills
>    and obsession or they're "no good/useless" then ...
>    now we're into deep 'spectrum' or 'narcissism'.
> 
>    Hmmm ... once came across an episode of "Young
>    Sheldon" where he went to the university prez
>    and declared that "education" ONLY meant vast
>    skill at math/sci and nobody else should get
>    a diploma. Quantum mechanics or NOTHING. None
>    others were 'smart' or 'educated'  :-)
> 

Heh :-)

-- 
Cheers,
        Carlos E.R.
        ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;

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#89163

On Tue, 28 Jul 2026 00:01:28 -0400, c186282 wrote:

>    Hmmm ... once came across an episode of "Young Sheldon" where he went
>    to the university prez and declared that "education" ONLY meant vast
>    skill at math/sci and nobody else should get a diploma. Quantum
>    mechanics or NOTHING. None others were 'smart' or 'educated'

I've seen that IRL. At a school that billed itself as a 'technological 
university' there was a feeling among the 'science' departments that the 
engineers weren't the sharpest knives in the drawer. 

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#89101

c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> wrote:
>   Look at MX and a few others ... the start-up options
>   allow you to run a systemd or sysV version.

I am very interested in knowing who wastes weeks of their lifetime to
write initscripts for Debian packages. Those people must be real
fanatics.

>> The GNU project needs to make their Hurd kernel a top
>> priority as the future of Linux is total corporate
>> domination with a lack of freedom.
>
>   We need alt development streams.

I think we don't even have enough personpower for ONE decent
development stream.

Greetings
Marc
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