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Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s

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  Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-07-18 19:38 -0400
    Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-07-19 01:29 +0000
      Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-07-18 22:09 -0400
      Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2026-07-20 08:55 +1000
        Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-07-20 00:52 -0400
          Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-07-20 14:13 +0200
            Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-20 14:20 +0100
            Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2026-07-20 17:49 +0200
              Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-07-20 16:12 +0000
                Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-07-20 18:30 +0000
                  Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-20 19:36 +0100
                    Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-07-21 01:31 +0000
                      Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2026-07-21 22:32 +0200
                  Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-07-20 19:29 +0000
                    Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-07-21 01:47 +0000
                      Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-07-21 04:05 +0000
                        Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-07-21 00:16 -0400
                          Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-07-21 07:27 +0000
                            Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-07-21 21:18 -0400
                              Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-07-22 03:16 +0000
                                Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-07-21 23:33 -0400
                                  Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-07-22 07:22 +0000
                                    Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-22 12:52 +0100
                                      Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-07-22 17:56 +0000
                                        Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-23 11:06 +0100
                                          Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-07-23 19:00 +0000
                                Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-22 12:51 +0100
                                  Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-07-22 18:31 +0000
                                    Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-23 11:07 +0100
                                      Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-07-23 19:49 +0000
                  Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2026-07-20 21:39 +0200
                    Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-07-20 20:26 +0000
                      Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-20 21:54 +0100
                        Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-07-21 04:10 +0000
                    Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-20 21:53 +0100
                      Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-07-21 02:06 +0000
                        Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-21 10:33 +0100
                      Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-07-21 04:13 +0000
                        Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-21 10:36 +0100
                          Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-07-21 18:29 +0000
                            Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-21 20:45 +0100
                              Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2026-07-21 22:48 +0200
                                Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-07-21 23:32 +0000
                                  Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-07-22 00:02 +0000
                                  Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-22 12:50 +0100
                                    Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-07-22 14:35 +0000
                                      Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2026-07-22 17:04 +0200
                                        Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-07-22 18:35 +0000
                                          Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-07-22 23:41 -0400
                                            Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-07-23 04:14 +0000
                                              Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-07-23 23:22 -0400
                                            Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s Mike Scott <usenet.16@scottsonline.org.uk.invalid> - 2026-07-23 08:26 +0100
                                          Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-23 11:00 +0100
                                        Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-07-22 22:54 +0000
                                        Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-23 10:57 +0100
                                          Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-07-23 19:44 +0000
                                            Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-23 20:57 +0100
                                            Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-07-23 22:04 +0000
                                Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2026-07-25 17:08 +0200
                              Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-07-21 23:29 +0000
                                Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-22 12:49 +0100
                            Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-07-21 23:34 -0400
                              Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-22 12:57 +0100
                                Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2026-07-22 16:22 +0200
                                  Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-07-22 17:59 +0000
                                  Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-07-22 22:51 +0000
                                  Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-23 10:51 +0100
                                    Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2026-07-23 18:43 +0200
                                      Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-07-23 19:33 +0000
                                        Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-07-23 22:04 +0000
                                          Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-07-24 01:32 +0000
                                            Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-07-24 13:59 +0200
                                              Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-07-24 22:09 -0400
                                                Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-07-25 05:02 +0000
                                                Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-07-25 12:48 +0200
                                      Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-23 20:37 +0100
                                        Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2026-07-25 15:55 +0200
                                          Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-25 14:58 +0100
                                            Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2026-07-25 16:53 +0200
                                              Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-25 15:59 +0100
                        Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-07-21 11:40 +0200
                          Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-07-21 18:07 +0000
                          Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-07-22 01:19 +0000
                            Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-07-21 21:32 -0400
                            Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-22 08:31 +0100
                            Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-07-22 13:42 +0200
                              Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-07-22 14:35 +0000
                                Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-07-22 22:49 +0000
                              Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-07-22 18:29 +0000
                              Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-07-22 22:46 +0000
                        Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s Andreas Eder <a_eder_muc@web.de> - 2026-07-22 10:21 +0200
                          Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-07-22 13:39 +0200
                          Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-07-22 17:54 +0000
                      Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2026-07-21 22:30 +0200
        Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-20 12:24 +0100
          Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-07-20 18:01 +0000
            Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-07-20 20:21 +0000
              Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-07-21 01:21 +0000
                Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-07-21 04:22 +0000
                  Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-07-21 07:22 +0000
                  Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-07-21 08:39 +0100
                    Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-07-21 12:53 +0000
                    Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-07-21 21:25 -0400
                      Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-07-22 04:04 +0000
                        Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s Robert Riches <spamtrap42@jacob21819.net> - 2026-07-22 04:17 +0000
                          Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-07-22 23:09 -0400
                            Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-07-23 04:45 +0000
                              Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-07-23 23:31 -0400
                                Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-24 11:01 +0100
                                  Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-07-24 22:05 -0400
                                    Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-25 13:44 +0100
                            Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-23 11:10 +0100
                              Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-07-23 19:15 +0000
                            Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2026-07-23 18:49 +0200
                        Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2026-07-22 16:27 +0200
                          Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-07-22 17:44 +0000
                        Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-07-22 23:05 -0400
                          Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-23 11:09 +0100
                          Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-07-23 22:04 +0000
                            Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-07-24 01:44 +0000
                              Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-07-23 23:39 -0400
                                Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-07-24 07:15 +0000
                                  Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-07-24 21:32 -0400
                                Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-24 11:00 +0100
                                  Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-07-24 21:43 -0400
                                    Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-25 13:42 +0100
                                      Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-07-25 16:39 +0000
                                        Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-25 17:50 +0100
                    Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2026-07-22 16:24 +0200
          Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-07-21 00:10 -0400
            Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-21 10:34 +0100
            Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-07-21 12:55 +0000
    Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-19 03:58 +0100
      Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-07-19 04:32 +0000

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#88976

FromThe Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid>
Date2026-07-22 12:49 +0100
Message-ID<113qank$2s428$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#88959
On 22/07/2026 00:29, rbowman wrote:
> On Tue, 21 Jul 2026 20:45:15 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
> 
>> No one 'believes Islam'
>>    It is simple indoctrination.
>> You go to school, You memorise the Q'ran. And the Ahadith It is told to
>> you as truth.
> 
> And what bullshit did you learn in school?

Hard to say.
Socialism mainly.
But that didn't survive contact with real working class people.
-- 
Labour - a bunch of rich people convincing poor people to vote for rich 
people by telling poor people that "other" rich people are the reason 
they are poor.

Peter Thompson

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#88968

Fromc186282 <c186282@nnada.net>
Date2026-07-21 23:34 -0400
Message-ID<jP2dnemytY_mp_33nZ2dnZfqn_adnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#88954
On 7/21/26 14:29, rbowman wrote:
> On Tue, 21 Jul 2026 10:36:34 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
> 
>> Islam gained complete control of the nations rather than just being a
>> religion.
> 
> That's logical if the inhabitants of the nation really believe the
> religion. 
   Well, if you don't - CHOP !!!

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#88980

FromThe Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid>
Date2026-07-22 12:57 +0100
Message-ID<113qb6p$2s428$6@dont-email.me>
In reply to#88968
On 22/07/2026 04:34, c186282 wrote:
> On 7/21/26 14:29, rbowman wrote:
>> On Tue, 21 Jul 2026 10:36:34 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>>
>>> Islam gained complete control of the nations rather than just being a
>>> religion.
>>
>> That's logical if the inhabitants of the nation really believe the
>> religion. 
>    Well, if you don't - CHOP !!!
> 
And that is the issue in a nutshell, Unbelievers are not aberrant 
humans, they are vermin,. Same principle as Nazism.

It;s your religious *duty* to kill them...


-- 
There is nothing a fleet of dispatchable nuclear power plants cannot do 
that cannot be done worse and more expensively and with higher carbon 
emissions and more adverse environmental impact by adding intermittent 
renewable energy.h

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#88981

From"s|b" <me@privacy.invalid>
Date2026-07-22 16:22 +0200
Message-ID<ncc20kFsi6pU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#88980
On Wed, 22 Jul 2026 12:57:13 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

> And that is the issue in a nutshell, Unbelievers are not aberrant 
> humans, they are vermin,. Same principle as Nazism.
> 
> It;s your religious *duty* to kill them...

According to some the Talmud says some nasty things about Goyim too.
Seems to be a common theme in a lot of religions.

-- 
s|b

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#88990

Fromrbowman <bowman@montana.com>
Date2026-07-22 17:59 +0000
Message-ID<nccenvFuaclU4@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#88981
On Wed, 22 Jul 2026 16:22:19 +0200, s|b wrote:

> On Wed, 22 Jul 2026 12:57:13 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
> 
>> And that is the issue in a nutshell, Unbelievers are not aberrant
>> humans, they are vermin,. Same principle as Nazism.
>> 
>> It;s your religious *duty* to kill them...
> 
> According to some the Talmud says some nasty things about Goyim too.
> Seems to be a common theme in a lot of religions.

They are all fruit of a poisoned tree. Islam is nothing but a Christian 
heresy designed for those who couldn't grasp the idea of a trinity.

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#88996

FromLawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid>
Date2026-07-22 22:51 +0000
Message-ID<113rhhs$3bo6k$3@dont-email.me>
In reply to#88981
On Wed, 22 Jul 2026 16:22:19 +0200, s|b wrote:

> According to some the Talmud says some nasty things about Goyim too.
> Seems to be a common theme in a lot of religions.

I have seen a video clip somewhere of Orthodox Jews in Israel,
spitting on Christians as they pass them in the street.

It’s a long hallowed tradition, apparently ... and can you blame them?

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#89004

FromThe Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid>
Date2026-07-23 10:51 +0100
Message-ID<113so7u$3nbo7$4@dont-email.me>
In reply to#88981
On 22/07/2026 15:22, s|b wrote:
> On Wed, 22 Jul 2026 12:57:13 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
> 
>> And that is the issue in a nutshell, Unbelievers are not aberrant
>> humans, they are vermin,. Same principle as Nazism.
>>
>> It;s your religious *duty* to kill them...
> 
> According to some the Talmud says some nasty things about Goyim too.
> Seems to be a common theme in a lot of religions.
> 
Yes. "All unbelievers should be killed, but start with the Jews" seems 
to be the message...


-- 
If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will 
eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such 
time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic 
and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally 
important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for 
the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the 
truth is the greatest enemy of the State.

Joseph Goebbels

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#89011

From"s|b" <me@privacy.invalid>
Date2026-07-23 18:43 +0200
Message-ID<nceum1Fbu1kU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#89004
On Thu, 23 Jul 2026 10:51:58 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

> On 22/07/2026 15:22, s|b wrote:
> > On Wed, 22 Jul 2026 12:57:13 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
> > 
> >> And that is the issue in a nutshell, Unbelievers are not aberrant
> >> humans, they are vermin,. Same principle as Nazism.
> >>
> >> It;s your religious *duty* to kill them...
> > 
> > According to some the Talmud says some nasty things about Goyim too.
> > Seems to be a common theme in a lot of religions.

> Yes. "All unbelievers should be killed, but start with the Jews" seems 
> to be the message...

I've never read it, but I doubt that is what the Talmud says. On the
contrary.

-- 
s|b

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#89015

Fromrbowman <bowman@montana.com>
Date2026-07-23 19:33 +0000
Message-ID<ncf8jgFd4siU3@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#89011
On Thu, 23 Jul 2026 18:43:54 +0200, s|b wrote:

> On Thu, 23 Jul 2026 10:51:58 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
> 
>> On 22/07/2026 15:22, s|b wrote:
>> > On Wed, 22 Jul 2026 12:57:13 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>> > 
>> >> And that is the issue in a nutshell, Unbelievers are not aberrant
>> >> humans, they are vermin,. Same principle as Nazism.
>> >>
>> >> It;s your religious *duty* to kill them...
>> > 
>> > According to some the Talmud says some nasty things about Goyim too.
>> > Seems to be a common theme in a lot of religions.
> 
>> Yes. "All unbelievers should be killed, but start with the Jews" seems
>> to be the message...
> 
> I've never read it, but I doubt that is what the Talmud says. On the
> contrary.

No, that what the rest of the world says. I was researching something else 
in the University of New Hampshire library when I saw a Talmud on a shelf. 
By that I mean it was the shelf. I don't know if it was the Babylonian or 
Jerusalem Talmud but there were over 20 volumes. Good luck reading it. 
From the little I managed to read it was legalistic wrangling by various 
rabbis on how to circumvent inconvenient mitzvah. 

A current day example is the prohibition on lighting a fire on the sabbath 
that the hyper-orthodox embrace. However yahweh didn't say anything about 
lighting a fire before the sabbath so turn the gas stove on and leave it 
going so you won't have to eat cold chow.  Of course you may burn down a 
block in Williamsburg and kill a few people.

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#89021

FromCharlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid>
Date2026-07-23 22:04 +0000
Message-ID<4ew8S.337529$0CK1.278642@fx47.iad>
In reply to#89015
On 2026-07-23, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:

> A current day example is the prohibition on lighting a fire on the sabbath 
> that the hyper-orthodox embrace. However yahweh didn't say anything about 
> lighting a fire before the sabbath so turn the gas stove on and leave it 
> going so you won't have to eat cold chow.  Of course you may burn down a 
> block in Williamsburg and kill a few people. 

Our oven has a "Sabbath" setting that will do it for you automatically.

-- 
/~\  Charlie Gibbs                  |  In this world there are
\ /  <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid>      |  two kinds of people:
 X   I'm really at ac.dekanfrus     |  1. Those who can extrapolate
/ \  if you read it the right way.  |  from incomplete data.

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#89023

Fromrbowman <bowman@montana.com>
Date2026-07-24 01:32 +0000
Message-ID<ncftm2Fd4siU6@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#89021
On Thu, 23 Jul 2026 22:04:48 GMT, Charlie Gibbs wrote:

> On 2026-07-23, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:
> 
>> A current day example is the prohibition on lighting a fire on the
>> sabbath that the hyper-orthodox embrace. However yahweh didn't say
>> anything about lighting a fire before the sabbath so turn the gas stove
>> on and leave it going so you won't have to eat cold chow.  Of course
>> you may burn down a block in Williamsburg and kill a few people.
> 
> Our oven has a "Sabbath" setting that will do it for you automatically.

Interesting. I sure that could start a long theological discussion like if 
using a timer to turn the lights on is acceptable. Rabbi Nathan says it's 
fine. Rabbi Schmuel says that since you programmer the timer you showed a 
volition to turn the light on. Rabbi Joel counters with...

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#89031

From"Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid>
Date2026-07-24 13:59 +0200
Message-ID<nch2dcFluf9U1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#89023
On 2026-07-24 03:32, rbowman wrote:
> On Thu, 23 Jul 2026 22:04:48 GMT, Charlie Gibbs wrote:
> 
>> On 2026-07-23, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:
>>
>>> A current day example is the prohibition on lighting a fire on the
>>> sabbath that the hyper-orthodox embrace. However yahweh didn't say
>>> anything about lighting a fire before the sabbath so turn the gas stove
>>> on and leave it going so you won't have to eat cold chow.  Of course
>>> you may burn down a block in Williamsburg and kill a few people.
>>
>> Our oven has a "Sabbath" setting that will do it for you automatically.
> 
> Interesting. I sure that could start a long theological discussion like if
> using a timer to turn the lights on is acceptable. Rabbi Nathan says it's
> fine. Rabbi Schmuel says that since you programmer the timer you showed a
> volition to turn the light on. Rabbi Joel counters with...
> 

I heard of a light switch special for Sabaths. When you switch if off, 
the lights go on.

-- 
Cheers,
        Carlos E.R.
        ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;

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#89035

Fromc186282 <c186282@nnada.net>
Date2026-07-24 22:09 -0400
Message-ID<_YycnbWsAfFKh_n3nZ2dnZfqn_idnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#89031
On 7/24/26 07:59, Carlos E. R. wrote:
> On 2026-07-24 03:32, rbowman wrote:
>> On Thu, 23 Jul 2026 22:04:48 GMT, Charlie Gibbs wrote:
>>
>>> On 2026-07-23, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> A current day example is the prohibition on lighting a fire on the
>>>> sabbath that the hyper-orthodox embrace. However yahweh didn't say
>>>> anything about lighting a fire before the sabbath so turn the gas stove
>>>> on and leave it going so you won't have to eat cold chow.  Of course
>>>> you may burn down a block in Williamsburg and kill a few people.
>>>
>>> Our oven has a "Sabbath" setting that will do it for you automatically.
>>
>> Interesting. I sure that could start a long theological discussion 
>> like if
>> using a timer to turn the lights on is acceptable. Rabbi Nathan says it's
>> fine. Rabbi Schmuel says that since you programmer the timer you showed a
>> volition to turn the light on. Rabbi Joel counters with...
>>
> 
> I heard of a light switch special for Sabaths. When you switch if off, 
> the lights go on.

   Heh heh ... once you go all technical on
   religious edicts it all gets VERY complicated.

   Except in Iran and similar - if the Revolutionary
   Guard or equiv decides you're guilty of heresy then
   you get the chop - or worse. They decide - being
   blessed by Gawd.

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#89036

Fromrbowman <bowman@montana.com>
Date2026-07-25 05:02 +0000
Message-ID<nciubeFovvdU4@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#89035
On Fri, 24 Jul 2026 22:09:27 -0400, c186282 wrote:

>    Except in Iran and similar - if the Revolutionary Guard or equiv
>    decides you're guilty of heresy then you get the chop - or worse.
>    They decide - being blessed by Gawd.

In the US is you are a protected species and rape a young girl the charges 
are dropped.

https://www.kimt.com/news/charges-dropped-against-rochester-men-accused-
of-sexually-abusing-a-teen-victim/article_461bf354-a3ff-11ed-bedb-
d329b9d4dcb6.html

otoh

https://people.com/shilox-hendrix-woman-accused-of-hurling-racial-slur-
at-8-year-old-boy-trial-begins-12023570

Maybe it's another Sharmake Omar. Very common name in Minnesota.

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#89037

From"Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid>
Date2026-07-25 12:48 +0200
Message-ID<ncjik4F2q16U1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#89035
On 2026-07-25 04:09, c186282 wrote:
> On 7/24/26 07:59, Carlos E. R. wrote:
>> On 2026-07-24 03:32, rbowman wrote:
>>> On Thu, 23 Jul 2026 22:04:48 GMT, Charlie Gibbs wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 2026-07-23, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> A current day example is the prohibition on lighting a fire on the
>>>>> sabbath that the hyper-orthodox embrace. However yahweh didn't say
>>>>> anything about lighting a fire before the sabbath so turn the gas 
>>>>> stove
>>>>> on and leave it going so you won't have to eat cold chow.  Of course
>>>>> you may burn down a block in Williamsburg and kill a few people.
>>>>
>>>> Our oven has a "Sabbath" setting that will do it for you automatically.
>>>
>>> Interesting. I sure that could start a long theological discussion 
>>> like if
>>> using a timer to turn the lights on is acceptable. Rabbi Nathan says 
>>> it's
>>> fine. Rabbi Schmuel says that since you programmer the timer you 
>>> showed a
>>> volition to turn the light on. Rabbi Joel counters with...
>>>
>>
>> I heard of a light switch special for Sabaths. When you switch if off, 
>> the lights go on.
> 
>    Heh heh ... once you go all technical on
>    religious edicts it all gets VERY complicated.
> 
>    Except in Iran and similar - if the Revolutionary
>    Guard or equiv decides you're guilty of heresy then
>    you get the chop - or worse. They decide - being
>    blessed by Gawd.
> 

Not very different from the Jews. Some organization (the rabbi?) has to 
say if those switches are approved.

-- 
Cheers,
        Carlos E.R.
        ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;

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#89016

FromThe Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid>
Date2026-07-23 20:37 +0100
Message-ID<113tqhe$49ku$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#89011
On 23/07/2026 17:43, s|b wrote:
> On Thu, 23 Jul 2026 10:51:58 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
> 
>> On 22/07/2026 15:22, s|b wrote:
>>> On Wed, 22 Jul 2026 12:57:13 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>>>
>>>> And that is the issue in a nutshell, Unbelievers are not aberrant
>>>> humans, they are vermin,. Same principle as Nazism.
>>>>
>>>> It;s your religious *duty* to kill them...
>>>
>>> According to some the Talmud says some nasty things about Goyim too.
>>> Seems to be a common theme in a lot of religions.
> 
>> Yes. "All unbelievers should be killed, but start with the Jews" seems
>> to be the message...
> 
> I've never read it, but I doubt that is what the Talmud says. On the
> contrary.
> 
No, that is what my local muslims say.

-- 
Climate Change: Socialism wearing a lab coat.

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#89040

From"s|b" <me@privacy.invalid>
Date2026-07-25 15:55 +0200
Message-ID<ncjti3F53u6U1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#89016
On Thu, 23 Jul 2026 20:37:18 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

> On 23/07/2026 17:43, s|b wrote:
>
> >> Yes. "All unbelievers should be killed, but start with the Jews" seems
> >> to be the message...
> > 
> > I've never read it, but I doubt that is what the Talmud says. On the
> > contrary.

> No, that is what my local muslims say.

Anecdotes are like that.

-- 
s|b

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#89041

FromThe Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid>
Date2026-07-25 14:58 +0100
Message-ID<1142fe8$1hftt$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#89040
On 25/07/2026 14:55, s|b wrote:
> On Thu, 23 Jul 2026 20:37:18 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
> 
>> On 23/07/2026 17:43, s|b wrote:
>>
>>>> Yes. "All unbelievers should be killed, but start with the Jews" seems
>>>> to be the message...
>>>
>>> I've never read it, but I doubt that is what the Talmud says. On the
>>> contrary.
> 
>> No, that is what my local muslims say.
> 
> Anecdotes are like that.
> 
Violent Islamic anti-semitism is a modern thing.

Israel has simply been too successful. Jealousy & shame turns into hatred.

-- 
The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to 
rule.
– H. L. Mencken, American journalist, 1880-1956

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#89042

From"s|b" <me@privacy.invalid>
Date2026-07-25 16:53 +0200
Message-ID<nck0v6F5kabU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#89041
On Sat, 25 Jul 2026 14:58:32 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

> Violent Islamic anti-semitism is a modern thing.
> 
> Israel has simply been too successful. Jealousy & shame turns into hatred.

If by 'successful' you mean running a fascist, racist, warmongering,
apartheid state, then yes, they've been very successful.

ATM I'm reading 'Footnotes in Gaza' by Joe Sacco about the execution of
Palestinian refugees (by the IDF) in Gaza 1956. Not something to be
jealous of, more ashamed (if you have a conscience) . Unfortunately, it
is merely a footnote, because there have been so much more deaths since
then.

-- 
s|b

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#89043

FromThe Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid>
Date2026-07-25 15:59 +0100
Message-ID<1142j03$1il2n$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#89042
On 25/07/2026 15:53, s|b wrote:
> On Sat, 25 Jul 2026 14:58:32 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
> 
>> Violent Islamic anti-semitism is a modern thing.
>>
>> Israel has simply been too successful. Jealousy & shame turns into hatred.
> 
> If by 'successful' you mean running a fascist, racist, warmongering,
> apartheid state, then yes, they've been very successful.
> 
So no different from any other middle eats staqted.
But no, modern industrialized, internationally recognised and thoroughly 
twenty first century country

> ATM I'm reading 'Footnotes in Gaza' by Joe Sacco about the execution of
> Palestinian refugees (by the IDF) in Gaza 1956. Not something to be
> jealous of, more ashamed (if you have a conscience) . Unfortunately, it
> is merely a footnote, because there have been so much more deaths since
> then.
> 
Assuming of course it is true...

-- 
"It is an established fact to 97% confidence limits that left wing 
conspirators see right wing conspiracies everywhere"

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