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Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s

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  Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-07-18 19:38 -0400
    Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-07-19 01:29 +0000
      Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-07-18 22:09 -0400
      Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2026-07-20 08:55 +1000
        Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-07-20 00:52 -0400
          Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-07-20 14:13 +0200
            Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-20 14:20 +0100
            Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2026-07-20 17:49 +0200
              Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-07-20 16:12 +0000
                Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-07-20 18:30 +0000
                  Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-20 19:36 +0100
                    Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-07-21 01:31 +0000
                      Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2026-07-21 22:32 +0200
                  Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-07-20 19:29 +0000
                    Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-07-21 01:47 +0000
                      Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-07-21 04:05 +0000
                        Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-07-21 00:16 -0400
                          Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-07-21 07:27 +0000
                            Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-07-21 21:18 -0400
                              Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-07-22 03:16 +0000
                                Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-07-21 23:33 -0400
                                  Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-07-22 07:22 +0000
                                    Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-22 12:52 +0100
                                      Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-07-22 17:56 +0000
                                        Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-23 11:06 +0100
                                          Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-07-23 19:00 +0000
                                Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-22 12:51 +0100
                                  Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-07-22 18:31 +0000
                                    Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-23 11:07 +0100
                                      Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-07-23 19:49 +0000
                  Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2026-07-20 21:39 +0200
                    Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-07-20 20:26 +0000
                      Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-20 21:54 +0100
                        Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-07-21 04:10 +0000
                    Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-20 21:53 +0100
                      Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-07-21 02:06 +0000
                        Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-21 10:33 +0100
                      Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-07-21 04:13 +0000
                        Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-21 10:36 +0100
                          Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-07-21 18:29 +0000
                            Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-21 20:45 +0100
                              Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2026-07-21 22:48 +0200
                                Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-07-21 23:32 +0000
                                  Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-07-22 00:02 +0000
                                  Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-22 12:50 +0100
                                    Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-07-22 14:35 +0000
                                      Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2026-07-22 17:04 +0200
                                        Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-07-22 18:35 +0000
                                          Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-07-22 23:41 -0400
                                            Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-07-23 04:14 +0000
                                              Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-07-23 23:22 -0400
                                            Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s Mike Scott <usenet.16@scottsonline.org.uk.invalid> - 2026-07-23 08:26 +0100
                                          Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-23 11:00 +0100
                                        Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-07-22 22:54 +0000
                                        Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-23 10:57 +0100
                                          Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-07-23 19:44 +0000
                                            Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-23 20:57 +0100
                                            Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-07-23 22:04 +0000
                                Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2026-07-25 17:08 +0200
                              Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-07-21 23:29 +0000
                                Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-22 12:49 +0100
                            Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-07-21 23:34 -0400
                              Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-22 12:57 +0100
                                Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2026-07-22 16:22 +0200
                                  Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-07-22 17:59 +0000
                                  Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-07-22 22:51 +0000
                                  Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-23 10:51 +0100
                                    Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2026-07-23 18:43 +0200
                                      Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-07-23 19:33 +0000
                                        Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-07-23 22:04 +0000
                                          Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-07-24 01:32 +0000
                                            Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-07-24 13:59 +0200
                                              Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-07-24 22:09 -0400
                                                Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-07-25 05:02 +0000
                                                Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-07-25 12:48 +0200
                                      Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-23 20:37 +0100
                                        Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2026-07-25 15:55 +0200
                                          Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-25 14:58 +0100
                                            Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2026-07-25 16:53 +0200
                                              Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-25 15:59 +0100
                        Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-07-21 11:40 +0200
                          Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-07-21 18:07 +0000
                          Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-07-22 01:19 +0000
                            Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-07-21 21:32 -0400
                            Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-22 08:31 +0100
                            Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-07-22 13:42 +0200
                              Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-07-22 14:35 +0000
                                Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-07-22 22:49 +0000
                              Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-07-22 18:29 +0000
                              Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-07-22 22:46 +0000
                        Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s Andreas Eder <a_eder_muc@web.de> - 2026-07-22 10:21 +0200
                          Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-07-22 13:39 +0200
                          Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-07-22 17:54 +0000
                      Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2026-07-21 22:30 +0200
        Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-20 12:24 +0100
          Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-07-20 18:01 +0000
            Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-07-20 20:21 +0000
              Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-07-21 01:21 +0000
                Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-07-21 04:22 +0000
                  Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-07-21 07:22 +0000
                  Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-07-21 08:39 +0100
                    Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-07-21 12:53 +0000
                    Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-07-21 21:25 -0400
                      Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-07-22 04:04 +0000
                        Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s Robert Riches <spamtrap42@jacob21819.net> - 2026-07-22 04:17 +0000
                          Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-07-22 23:09 -0400
                            Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-07-23 04:45 +0000
                              Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-07-23 23:31 -0400
                                Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-24 11:01 +0100
                                  Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-07-24 22:05 -0400
                                    Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-25 13:44 +0100
                            Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-23 11:10 +0100
                              Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-07-23 19:15 +0000
                            Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2026-07-23 18:49 +0200
                        Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2026-07-22 16:27 +0200
                          Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-07-22 17:44 +0000
                        Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-07-22 23:05 -0400
                          Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-23 11:09 +0100
                          Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-07-23 22:04 +0000
                            Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-07-24 01:44 +0000
                              Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-07-23 23:39 -0400
                                Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-07-24 07:15 +0000
                                  Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-07-24 21:32 -0400
                                Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-24 11:00 +0100
                                  Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-07-24 21:43 -0400
                                    Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-25 13:42 +0100
                                      Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-07-25 16:39 +0000
                                        Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-25 17:50 +0100
                    Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2026-07-22 16:24 +0200
          Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-07-21 00:10 -0400
            Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-21 10:34 +0100
            Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-07-21 12:55 +0000
    Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-19 03:58 +0100
      Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-07-19 04:32 +0000

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#89027

Fromc186282 <c186282@nnada.net>
Date2026-07-23 23:39 -0400
Message-ID<ZnmdnVlleebaQ__3nZ2dnZfqnPudnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#89024
On 7/23/26 21:44, rbowman wrote:
> On Thu, 23 Jul 2026 22:04:48 GMT, Charlie Gibbs wrote:
> 
>> On 2026-07-23, c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> wrote:
>>
>>> On 7/22/26 00:04, rbowman wrote:
>>>
>>>> The US will have the Golden Dome sometime around the 12th of Never.
>>>> Being Trump, it has to be Golden of course. I think someplace buried
>>>> in the Pentagon Reagan's Star Wars scheme is alive and well on a
>>>> ventilator. CHEAP ain't happening.
>>>
>>>     Don't think we will ever see "GoldenDome"
>>
>> No, but we'll probably pay for it anyway.
> 
> I think there is a few billion dollars worth of Golden Gravy in the NDAA
> passed by the House. Thune doesn't seem to be able to pass a bill calling
> for free lunches for senators so what happens now remains to be seen.

   "GoldenDome" is NOT practical. The USA is just
   WAY too damned BIG. It can be attacked from any
   direction. The sheer scale of a missile defense
   system is, well, just impractical.

   Something new/different would be needed - giant,
   really giant, lasers or something.

   Alas enemies would try to disable such facilities
   just before their main attack. You only need a FEW
   routes into the US heartland .....

   Oh, peace & love and universal disarmament ...
   it's NOT HAPPENING folks. The species isn't wired
   that way.

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#89028

Fromrbowman <bowman@montana.com>
Date2026-07-24 07:15 +0000
Message-ID<ncghnmFd4siU10@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#89027
On Thu, 23 Jul 2026 23:39:16 -0400, c186282 wrote:

>    "GoldenDome" is NOT practical. The USA is just WAY too damned BIG. It
>    can be attacked from any direction. The sheer scale of a missile
>    defense system is, well, just impractical.

You do realize Golden Dome is essentially StarLink with missiles? It's 
designed to cover the world, not just the US.

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#89032

Fromc186282 <c186282@nnada.net>
Date2026-07-24 21:32 -0400
Message-ID<c1ednS8zhqKnj_n3nZ2dnZfqnPSdnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#89028
On 7/24/26 03:15, rbowman wrote:
> On Thu, 23 Jul 2026 23:39:16 -0400, c186282 wrote:
> 
>>     "GoldenDome" is NOT practical. The USA is just WAY too damned BIG. It
>>     can be attacked from any direction. The sheer scale of a missile
>>     defense system is, well, just impractical.
> 
> You do realize Golden Dome is essentially StarLink with missiles? It's
> designed to cover the world, not just the US.

   Won't, can't.

   SOUNDS easy ... but the SCALE just screws it.

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#89029

FromThe Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid>
Date2026-07-24 11:00 +0100
Message-ID<113vd3m$is3h$4@dont-email.me>
In reply to#89027
On 24/07/2026 04:39, c186282 wrote:
> "GoldenDome" is NOT practical. The USA is just
>    WAY too damned BIG. It can be attacked from any
>    direction. The sheer scale of a missile defense
>    system is, well, just impractical.
> 
I think the only way to make this work is to move everything of 
importance underground. And leave the surface for cyclists and bunny huggers

>    Something new/different would be needed - giant,
>    really giant, lasers or something.
> 
Or a lot of little ones.

>    Alas enemies would try to disable such facilities
>    just before their main attack. You only need a FEW
>    routes into the US heartland .....

Don't worry. ICE will stop them.
-- 
It is the folly of too many to mistake the echo of a London coffee-house 
for the voice of the kingdom.

Jonathan Swift

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#89033

Fromc186282 <c186282@nnada.net>
Date2026-07-24 21:43 -0400
Message-ID<_YycnbusAfEnifn3nZ2dnZfqn_idnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#89029
On 7/24/26 06:00, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
> On 24/07/2026 04:39, c186282 wrote:
>> "GoldenDome" is NOT practical. The USA is just
>>    WAY too damned BIG. It can be attacked from any
>>    direction. The sheer scale of a missile defense
>>    system is, well, just impractical.
>>
> I think the only way to make this work is to move everything of 
> importance underground. And leave the surface for cyclists and bunny 
> huggers
> 
>>    Something new/different would be needed - giant,
>>    really giant, lasers or something.
>>
> Or a lot of little ones.

   Who's gonna PAY for them ? Just to cover the US
   mainland we'd be talking maybe a few THOUSAND
   of those 'small' lasers. X-percent will be out
   of service at any given time.

   Current 'directed energy' devices really just
   ain't so good. Fuckin' atmosphere ......

   When we have a permanent moon colony, put one
   THERE to fend off the Chinese or whomever. In
   a vac they WILL work well.

   Oh, you don't have to directly hit any major
   cities - just plop a fallout-enhanced bomb
   somewhere nearby. Maybe worse ...

>>    Alas enemies would try to disable such facilities
>>    just before their main attack. You only need a FEW
>>    routes into the US heartland .....
> 
> Don't worry. ICE will stop them.

   Um ... no - alas .....

   Without kinda literal Star Trek force-shield tech
   countries will remain fairly vulnerable. Plenty of
   promises, but no realistic solutions other than to
   prevent The War from happening.

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#89038

FromThe Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid>
Date2026-07-25 13:42 +0100
Message-ID<1142b07$1g3r9$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#89033
On 25/07/2026 02:43, c186282 wrote:
> On 7/24/26 06:00, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>> On 24/07/2026 04:39, c186282 wrote:
>>> "GoldenDome" is NOT practical. The USA is just
>>>    WAY too damned BIG. It can be attacked from any
>>>    direction. The sheer scale of a missile defense
>>>    system is, well, just impractical.
>>>
>> I think the only way to make this work is to move everything of 
>> importance underground. And leave the surface for cyclists and bunny 
>> huggers
>>
>>>    Something new/different would be needed - giant,
>>>    really giant, lasers or something.
>>>
>> Or a lot of little ones.
> 
>    Who's gonna PAY for them ? Just to cover the US
>    mainland we'd be talking maybe a few THOUSAND
>    of those 'small' lasers. X-percent will be out
>    of service at any given time.
> 
What makes you think they would be expensive?


-- 
New Socialism consists essentially in being seen to have your heart in 
the right place whilst your head is in the clouds and your hand is in 
someone else's pocket.

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#89045

Fromrbowman <bowman@montana.com>
Date2026-07-25 16:39 +0000
Message-ID<nck76gFovvdU8@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#89038
On Sat, 25 Jul 2026 13:42:47 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

> On 25/07/2026 02:43, c186282 wrote:
>> On 7/24/26 06:00, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>>> On 24/07/2026 04:39, c186282 wrote:
>>>> "GoldenDome" is NOT practical. The USA is just
>>>>    WAY too damned BIG. It can be attacked from any direction. The
>>>>    sheer scale of a missile defense system is, well, just
>>>>    impractical.
>>>>
>>> I think the only way to make this work is to move everything of
>>> importance underground. And leave the surface for cyclists and bunny
>>> huggers
>>>
>>>>    Something new/different would be needed - giant,
>>>>    really giant, lasers or something.
>>>>
>>> Or a lot of little ones.
>> 
>>    Who's gonna PAY for them ? Just to cover the US mainland we'd be
>>    talking maybe a few THOUSAND of those 'small' lasers. X-percent
>>    will be out of service at any given time.
>> 
> What makes you think they would be expensive?

Is the US government going to pay for them? In that case they will be 
delivered late, not completely operational, and have cost overruns twice 
or more of the original estimate. Prove I'm wrong.

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#89046

FromThe Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid>
Date2026-07-25 17:50 +0100
Message-ID<1142phe$1kmvu$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#89045
On 25/07/2026 17:39, rbowman wrote:
> On Sat, 25 Jul 2026 13:42:47 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
> 
>> On 25/07/2026 02:43, c186282 wrote:
>>> On 7/24/26 06:00, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>>>> On 24/07/2026 04:39, c186282 wrote:
>>>>> "GoldenDome" is NOT practical. The USA is just
>>>>>     WAY too damned BIG. It can be attacked from any direction. The
>>>>>     sheer scale of a missile defense system is, well, just
>>>>>     impractical.
>>>>>
>>>> I think the only way to make this work is to move everything of
>>>> importance underground. And leave the surface for cyclists and bunny
>>>> huggers
>>>>
>>>>>     Something new/different would be needed - giant,
>>>>>     really giant, lasers or something.
>>>>>
>>>> Or a lot of little ones.
>>>
>>>     Who's gonna PAY for them ? Just to cover the US mainland we'd be
>>>     talking maybe a few THOUSAND of those 'small' lasers. X-percent
>>>     will be out of service at any given time.
>>>
>> What makes you think they would be expensive?
> 
> Is the US government going to pay for them? In that case they will be
> delivered late, not completely operational, and have cost overruns twice
> or more of the original estimate. Prove I'm wrong.
Don't be silly.

First you don't need hundreds. It's all down to how fast you can slew 
the optics and the recharge time of whatever powers the laser.
secondly lasers - even reasonably high powered ones - are not that 
expensive .

Oh, invisible unicorns are massing in Times Square
*Prove me wrong*.


-- 
“it should be clear by now to everyone that activist environmentalism 
(or environmental activism) is becoming a general ideology about humans, 
about their freedom, about the relationship between the individual and 
the state, and about the manipulation of people under the guise of a 
'noble' idea. It is not an honest pursuit of 'sustainable development,' 
a matter of elementary environmental protection, or a search for 
rational mechanisms designed to achieve a healthy environment. Yet 
things do occur that make you shake your head and remind yourself that 
you live neither in Joseph Stalin’s Communist era, nor in the Orwellian 
utopia of 1984.”

Vaclav Klaus

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#88982

From"s|b" <me@privacy.invalid>
Date2026-07-22 16:24 +0200
Message-ID<ncc25bFsi6pU2@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#88946
On Tue, 21 Jul 2026 08:39:40 +0100, Andy Burns wrote:

> Isn't this where AI steps in and says
> "A strange game, the only winning move is not to play"?
> 
> FX: hollow-laughter

How about a nice game of chess?

-- 
s|b

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#88939

Fromc186282 <c186282@nnada.net>
Date2026-07-21 00:10 -0400
Message-ID<grWdnfGaFtcZbMP3nZ2dnZfqn_adnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#88919
On 7/20/26 07:24, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
> On 19/07/2026 23:55, Computer Nerd Kev wrote:
>> rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:
>>> On Sat, 18 Jul 2026 19:38:31 -0400, c186282 wrote:
>>>>     Meanwhile, everything made in USA costs a million dollars per unit
>>>>     and take forever to build.
>>>
>>> I forget who said 'Generals do not end wars; accountants do.'  Estimates
>>> vary but the Tamir missile used by Iron Dome costs around $50K. When you
>>> use them to blow up a $5K DJI drone the costs add up fast. That's 
>>> chicken
>>> feed compared to the cost of a Tomahawk.
>>
>> The USA and Israel are getting deep into laser weapons now
> 
> UK already has them
> 
>> for that
>> reason, but I'm just waiting for drones/missiles to arrive sporting
>> mirrors designed to reflect those beams back and set fire to things
>> on the ground instead.
>>
> Not very aerodynamic.
> Easier to buzz along hugging the terrain.

   Retroreflectors can be done using 'zone lenses',
   flat.

   However just bright chrome/gold micro-plating
   would probably serve.

> Your general purpose drone deploys photovoltaic 'wings' by day and 
> crawls, swims or flies towards its target until it smells the particular 
> DNA combination in the air, when its off like a bloodhound to its 
> intended target, and it's bye bye Trump, or Putin, or Justin Bieber...

   Assassin drones ?

   Forget DNA.

   Biometric ID would serve - and is current
   and cheaper.

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#88948

FromThe Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid>
Date2026-07-21 10:34 +0100
Message-ID<113nefd$1rvch$3@dont-email.me>
In reply to#88939
On 21/07/2026 05:10, c186282 wrote:
> On 7/20/26 07:24, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>> On 19/07/2026 23:55, Computer Nerd Kev wrote:
>>> rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:
>>>> On Sat, 18 Jul 2026 19:38:31 -0400, c186282 wrote:
>>>>>     Meanwhile, everything made in USA costs a million dollars per unit
>>>>>     and take forever to build.
>>>>
>>>> I forget who said 'Generals do not end wars; accountants do.'  
>>>> Estimates
>>>> vary but the Tamir missile used by Iron Dome costs around $50K. When 
>>>> you
>>>> use them to blow up a $5K DJI drone the costs add up fast. That's 
>>>> chicken
>>>> feed compared to the cost of a Tomahawk.
>>>
>>> The USA and Israel are getting deep into laser weapons now
>>
>> UK already has them
>>
>>> for that
>>> reason, but I'm just waiting for drones/missiles to arrive sporting
>>> mirrors designed to reflect those beams back and set fire to things
>>> on the ground instead.
>>>
>> Not very aerodynamic.
>> Easier to buzz along hugging the terrain.
> 
>    Retroreflectors can be done using 'zone lenses',
>    flat.
> 
>    However just bright chrome/gold micro-plating
>    would probably serve.
> 
>> Your general purpose drone deploys photovoltaic 'wings' by day and 
>> crawls, swims or flies towards its target until it smells the 
>> particular DNA combination in the air, when its off like a bloodhound 
>> to its intended target, and it's bye bye Trump, or Putin, or Justin 
>> Bieber...
> 
>    Assassin drones ?
> 
>    Forget DNA.
> 
>    Biometric ID would serve - and is current
>    and cheaper.
> 
It doesn't work like that. And can be faked



-- 
"If you don’t read the news paper, you are un-informed. If you read the 
news paper, you are mis-informed."

Mark Twain

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#88952

FromRich <rich@example.invalid>
Date2026-07-21 12:55 +0000
Message-ID<113nq84$201do$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#88939
c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> wrote:
> On 7/20/26 07:24, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>> Your general purpose drone deploys photovoltaic 'wings' by day and 
>> crawls, swims or flies towards its target until it smells the 
>> particular DNA combination in the air, when its off like a 
>> bloodhound to its intended target, and it's bye bye Trump, or Putin, 
>> or Justin Bieber...
> 
>   Assassin drones ?
> 
>   Forget DNA.
> 
>   Biometric ID would serve - and is current
>   and cheaper.

Or, more likely (at least in the US) the Drone ask's the spy camera 
company Flock where the target is at this moment, and then flys there 
to perform the assination.

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#88903

FromThe Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid>
Date2026-07-19 03:58 +0100
Message-ID<113heg5$24ta$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#88894
On 19/07/2026 00:38, c186282 wrote:
> Sorry folks, but 'the west' has fallen WAY behind
>    the proverbial curve in 21st-century warfare.

No. Just the USA

-- 
I would rather have questions that cannot be answered...
...than to have answers that cannot be questioned

Richard Feynman

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#88904

Fromrbowman <bowman@montana.com>
Date2026-07-19 04:32 +0000
Message-ID<nc32anFf8ikU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#88903
On Sun, 19 Jul 2026 03:58:13 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

> On 19/07/2026 00:38, c186282 wrote:
>> Sorry folks, but 'the west' has fallen WAY behind
>>    the proverbial curve in 21st-century warfare.
> 
> No. Just the USA

https://lordslibrary.parliament.uk/armed-forces-uk-future-capability-and-
requirements/

Right...

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