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| Started by | c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> |
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| First post | 2026-07-18 19:38 -0400 |
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Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-07-18 19:38 -0400
Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-07-19 01:29 +0000
Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-07-18 22:09 -0400
Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2026-07-20 08:55 +1000
Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-07-20 00:52 -0400
Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-07-20 14:13 +0200
Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-20 14:20 +0100
Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2026-07-20 17:49 +0200
Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-07-20 16:12 +0000
Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-07-20 18:30 +0000
Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-20 19:36 +0100
Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-07-21 01:31 +0000
Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2026-07-21 22:32 +0200
Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-07-20 19:29 +0000
Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-07-21 01:47 +0000
Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-07-21 04:05 +0000
Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-07-21 00:16 -0400
Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-07-21 07:27 +0000
Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-07-21 21:18 -0400
Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-07-22 03:16 +0000
Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-07-21 23:33 -0400
Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-07-22 07:22 +0000
Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-22 12:52 +0100
Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-07-22 17:56 +0000
Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-23 11:06 +0100
Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-07-23 19:00 +0000
Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-22 12:51 +0100
Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-07-22 18:31 +0000
Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-23 11:07 +0100
Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-07-23 19:49 +0000
Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2026-07-20 21:39 +0200
Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-07-20 20:26 +0000
Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-20 21:54 +0100
Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-07-21 04:10 +0000
Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-20 21:53 +0100
Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-07-21 02:06 +0000
Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-21 10:33 +0100
Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-07-21 04:13 +0000
Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-21 10:36 +0100
Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-07-21 18:29 +0000
Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-21 20:45 +0100
Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2026-07-21 22:48 +0200
Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-07-21 23:32 +0000
Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-07-22 00:02 +0000
Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-22 12:50 +0100
Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-07-22 14:35 +0000
Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2026-07-22 17:04 +0200
Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-07-22 18:35 +0000
Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-07-22 23:41 -0400
Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-07-23 04:14 +0000
Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-07-23 23:22 -0400
Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s Mike Scott <usenet.16@scottsonline.org.uk.invalid> - 2026-07-23 08:26 +0100
Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-23 11:00 +0100
Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-07-22 22:54 +0000
Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-23 10:57 +0100
Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-07-23 19:44 +0000
Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-23 20:57 +0100
Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-07-23 22:04 +0000
Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2026-07-25 17:08 +0200
Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-07-25 22:52 +0000
Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-07-25 22:32 -0400
Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-26 08:54 +0100
Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-07-21 23:29 +0000
Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-22 12:49 +0100
Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-07-21 23:34 -0400
Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-22 12:57 +0100
Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2026-07-22 16:22 +0200
Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-07-22 17:59 +0000
Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-07-22 22:51 +0000
Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-23 10:51 +0100
Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2026-07-23 18:43 +0200
Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-07-23 19:33 +0000
Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-07-23 22:04 +0000
Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-07-24 01:32 +0000
Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-07-24 13:59 +0200
Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-07-24 22:09 -0400
Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-07-25 05:02 +0000
Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-07-25 21:16 -0400
Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-07-25 12:48 +0200
Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-23 20:37 +0100
Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2026-07-25 15:55 +0200
Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-25 14:58 +0100
Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2026-07-25 16:53 +0200
Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-25 15:59 +0100
Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-07-25 22:29 -0400
Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-07-25 22:28 -0400
Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-07-21 11:40 +0200
Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-07-21 18:07 +0000
Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-07-22 01:19 +0000
Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-07-21 21:32 -0400
Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-22 08:31 +0100
Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-07-22 13:42 +0200
Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-07-22 14:35 +0000
Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-07-22 22:49 +0000
Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-07-22 18:29 +0000
Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-07-22 22:46 +0000
Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s Andreas Eder <a_eder_muc@web.de> - 2026-07-22 10:21 +0200
Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-07-22 13:39 +0200
Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-07-22 17:54 +0000
Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2026-07-21 22:30 +0200
Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-20 12:24 +0100
Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-07-20 18:01 +0000
Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-07-20 20:21 +0000
Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-07-21 01:21 +0000
Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-07-21 04:22 +0000
Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-07-21 07:22 +0000
Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-07-21 08:39 +0100
Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-07-21 12:53 +0000
Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-07-21 21:25 -0400
Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-07-22 04:04 +0000
Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s Robert Riches <spamtrap42@jacob21819.net> - 2026-07-22 04:17 +0000
Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-07-22 23:09 -0400
Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-07-23 04:45 +0000
Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-07-23 23:31 -0400
Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-24 11:01 +0100
Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-07-24 22:05 -0400
Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-25 13:44 +0100
Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-07-25 22:23 -0400
Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-23 11:10 +0100
Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-07-23 19:15 +0000
Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2026-07-23 18:49 +0200
Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2026-07-22 16:27 +0200
Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-07-22 17:44 +0000
Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-07-22 23:05 -0400
Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-23 11:09 +0100
Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-07-23 22:04 +0000
Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-07-24 01:44 +0000
Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-07-23 23:39 -0400
Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-07-24 07:15 +0000
Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-07-24 21:32 -0400
Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-24 11:00 +0100
Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-07-24 21:43 -0400
Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-25 13:42 +0100
Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-07-25 16:39 +0000
Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-25 17:50 +0100
Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-07-25 20:27 +0000
Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-07-25 21:55 -0400
Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2026-07-22 16:24 +0200
Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-07-21 00:10 -0400
Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-21 10:34 +0100
Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-07-21 12:55 +0000
Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-19 03:58 +0100
Re: Interesting - Ukraine Missiles Use Open Source, Russians Use Pi-4s rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-07-19 04:32 +0000
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| From | "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-07-25 15:55 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <ncjti3F53u6U1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #89016 |
On Thu, 23 Jul 2026 20:37:18 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote: > On 23/07/2026 17:43, s|b wrote: > > >> Yes. "All unbelievers should be killed, but start with the Jews" seems > >> to be the message... > > > > I've never read it, but I doubt that is what the Talmud says. On the > > contrary. > No, that is what my local muslims say. Anecdotes are like that. -- s|b
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| From | The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-07-25 14:58 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <1142fe8$1hftt$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #89040 |
On 25/07/2026 14:55, s|b wrote: > On Thu, 23 Jul 2026 20:37:18 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote: > >> On 23/07/2026 17:43, s|b wrote: >> >>>> Yes. "All unbelievers should be killed, but start with the Jews" seems >>>> to be the message... >>> >>> I've never read it, but I doubt that is what the Talmud says. On the >>> contrary. > >> No, that is what my local muslims say. > > Anecdotes are like that. > Violent Islamic anti-semitism is a modern thing. Israel has simply been too successful. Jealousy & shame turns into hatred. -- The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule. – H. L. Mencken, American journalist, 1880-1956
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| From | "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-07-25 16:53 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <nck0v6F5kabU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #89041 |
On Sat, 25 Jul 2026 14:58:32 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote: > Violent Islamic anti-semitism is a modern thing. > > Israel has simply been too successful. Jealousy & shame turns into hatred. If by 'successful' you mean running a fascist, racist, warmongering, apartheid state, then yes, they've been very successful. ATM I'm reading 'Footnotes in Gaza' by Joe Sacco about the execution of Palestinian refugees (by the IDF) in Gaza 1956. Not something to be jealous of, more ashamed (if you have a conscience) . Unfortunately, it is merely a footnote, because there have been so much more deaths since then. -- s|b
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| From | The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-07-25 15:59 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <1142j03$1il2n$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #89042 |
On 25/07/2026 15:53, s|b wrote: > On Sat, 25 Jul 2026 14:58:32 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote: > >> Violent Islamic anti-semitism is a modern thing. >> >> Israel has simply been too successful. Jealousy & shame turns into hatred. > > If by 'successful' you mean running a fascist, racist, warmongering, > apartheid state, then yes, they've been very successful. > So no different from any other middle eats staqted. But no, modern industrialized, internationally recognised and thoroughly twenty first century country > ATM I'm reading 'Footnotes in Gaza' by Joe Sacco about the execution of > Palestinian refugees (by the IDF) in Gaza 1956. Not something to be > jealous of, more ashamed (if you have a conscience) . Unfortunately, it > is merely a footnote, because there have been so much more deaths since > then. > Assuming of course it is true... -- "It is an established fact to 97% confidence limits that left wing conspirators see right wing conspiracies everywhere"
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| From | c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> |
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| Date | 2026-07-25 22:29 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <ucudnc-EqPF27fj3nZ2dnZfqnPudnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #89042 |
On 7/25/26 10:53, s|b wrote: > On Sat, 25 Jul 2026 14:58:32 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote: > >> Violent Islamic anti-semitism is a modern thing. >> >> Israel has simply been too successful. Jealousy & shame turns into hatred. > > If by 'successful' you mean running a fascist, racist, warmongering, > apartheid state, then yes, they've been very successful. Go suck yer ayatollah ... he's calling .......
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| From | c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> |
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| Date | 2026-07-25 22:28 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <ucudncyEqPFV7fj3nZ2dnZfqnPudnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #89041 |
On 7/25/26 09:58, The Natural Philosopher wrote: > On 25/07/2026 14:55, s|b wrote: >> On Thu, 23 Jul 2026 20:37:18 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote: >> >>> On 23/07/2026 17:43, s|b wrote: >>> >>>>> Yes. "All unbelievers should be killed, but start with the Jews" seems >>>>> to be the message... >>>> >>>> I've never read it, but I doubt that is what the Talmud says. On the >>>> contrary. >> >>> No, that is what my local muslims say. >> >> Anecdotes are like that. >> > Violent Islamic anti-semitism is a modern thing. > > Israel has simply been too successful. Jealousy & shame turns into hatred. These blood feuds go back thousands of years. Nobody even remembers why they started. Israel ... it's been mostly good, but SOME bad IMHO. The "settlements" (aka invade/genocide) are a biggie. Nobody dares oppose the 'ultra-orthodox' faction. In some respects you're correct. "Israel", the territory, was largely ignored for a long time. The modern incarnation though totally upset the power equation in the region. Israel become too strong, too rich, too influential, WAY too fast and everybody around wants to destroy it. Those ancient blood-feuds didn't go away.
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| From | "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-07-21 11:40 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <nc8t3jFc5a3U2@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #88941 |
On 2026-07-21 06:13, Rich wrote:
> The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>> On 20/07/2026 20:39, s|b wrote:
>>> On 20 Jul 2026 18:30:21 GMT, rbowman wrote:
>>>
>>>> Aircraft carriers are 20th century technology. They lose their appeal if
>>>> you have to park them 1000 miles away. I don't know if the Iranians have
>>>> the capability but China and Russia certainly do.
>>>
>>> Ukraine has drones that can fly over 3.000 km, so if Iran has those,
>>> then those carriers will have to park them even further.
>>>
>> We can be thankful that Islam does not mesh well with Science.
>
> Which is odd, given that a great number of centuries ago, the Islamic
> world of that age was inventing scientific breakthrough after
> scientific breakthrough.
They also transmitted a lot of knowledge, starting with the Arabic
number system that we use today. It was invented in India. To transmit
something you have to understand it.
They also had better doctors than Christianity.
>
> Modern Islam (at least the current 'strict' reading by the extremists)
> is what does not mesh well with science. Islam of yore did mesh well.
> Something changed in the centries from then to now.
--
Cheers,
Carlos E.R.
ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2026-07-21 18:07 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <nc9qroF7pt3U10@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #88950 |
On Tue, 21 Jul 2026 11:40:03 +0200, Carlos E. R. wrote: > They also transmitted a lot of knowledge, starting with the Arabic > number system that we use today. It was invented in India. To transmit > something you have to understand it. > > They also had better doctors than Christianity. The sad part is Jews did better under Islamic regimes than Christian. It wasn't the Moors that forced the Jews to leave or pretend to be converted in Spain in 1492. That was probably true until 1948.
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| From | Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-07-22 01:19 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <113p5rd$2fnb0$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #88950 |
On Tue, 21 Jul 2026 11:40:03 +0200, Carlos E. R. wrote: >> Modern Islam (at least the current 'strict' reading by the >> extremists) is what does not mesh well with science. Islam of yore >> did mesh well. Something changed in the centries from then to now. The interpretation changed. When the Arabs conquered Alexandria, and found the pitiful remnants of what had once been the Great Library (what was left after the Christians had done with it), the conquering general sent a message back to the Caliph, asking what to do with with the remaining books. The message came back: “Either they agree with the Quran, in which case they are superfluous, or they disagree with it, in which case they are undesirable. In any case, destroy them.” And then, just a couple centuries later, the thinking changed, and the Islamic Golden Age of scholarship and learning -- the origins of science as we know it today -- began. Then, a few centuries after that, the thinking changed again, and the Golden Age ended. And just about at this point, the thinking in the Christian world changed, too. And so we got the Italian Renaissance -- founded on many of the ideas from the older Islamic learning, don’t forget. It was the Islamic world that had kept the old Greek learning alive (and was busily adding to it), while the Christian idea of “learning” was making endless over-decorated copies of their holy book. Moral: You can take exactly the same holy teachings, and selectively use parts of them to justify entirely opposite and contradictory intellectual positions. We saw that happen with both the Muslims and the Christians. And it happens with Jews as well. Religous argument is circular argument.
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| From | c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> |
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| Date | 2026-07-21 21:32 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <jP2dnfKytY-dg_33nZ2dnZfqn_adnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #88963 |
On 7/21/26 21:19, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote: > On Tue, 21 Jul 2026 11:40:03 +0200, Carlos E. R. wrote: > >>> Modern Islam (at least the current 'strict' reading by the >>> extremists) is what does not mesh well with science. Islam of yore >>> did mesh well. Something changed in the centries from then to now. > > The interpretation changed. > > When the Arabs conquered Alexandria, and found the pitiful remnants of > what had once been the Great Library (what was left after the > Christians had done with it), the conquering general sent a message > back to the Caliph, asking what to do with with the remaining books. > > The message came back: “Either they agree with the Quran, in which > case they are superfluous, or they disagree with it, in which case > they are undesirable. In any case, destroy them.” Yep. Still hope that, somewhere, backup copies of all that stuff were safely stashed away in an obscure desert cave. Ptolemy-II ordered that any ships coming into Alexandria with books ... the books HAD to be delivered to the library to be COPIED before the originals were returned. So, the concept of 'backups' wasn't alien even back then. Islam is made to be more radical/purist/evangelical than even Christianity. EARLY Islamic civ was high on its successes and this tended to help the sciences. But once the advances stalled, POWER was retained by getting really fundy.
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| From | Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-07-22 08:31 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <wwvtspra3an.fsf@LkoBDZeT.terraraq.uk> |
| In reply to | #88963 |
Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> writes: > On Tue, 21 Jul 2026 11:40:03 +0200, Carlos E. R. wrote: >>> Modern Islam (at least the current 'strict' reading by the >>> extremists) is what does not mesh well with science. Islam of yore >>> did mesh well. Something changed in the centries from then to now. > > The interpretation changed. > > When the Arabs conquered Alexandria, and found the pitiful remnants of > what had once been the Great Library (what was left after the > Christians had done with it), the conquering general sent a message > back to the Caliph, asking what to do with with the remaining books. > > The message came back: “Either they agree with the Quran, in which > case they are superfluous, or they disagree with it, in which case > they are undesirable. In any case, destroy them.” Do you have a contemporary source for that? They library was almost certainly gone before the end of the C3rd, the conquest of Alexandria was in the C7th, and the anecdote you quote doesn’t turn up until the C13th, one of a number of dubiuosly evidenced attempts to pin the damage on one religion another. -- https://www.greenend.org.uk/rjk/
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| From | "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-07-22 13:42 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <ncbolnFc5a3U6@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #88963 |
On 2026-07-22 03:19, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:
> On Tue, 21 Jul 2026 11:40:03 +0200, Carlos E. R. wrote:
>
>>> Modern Islam (at least the current 'strict' reading by the
>>> extremists) is what does not mesh well with science. Islam of yore
>>> did mesh well. Something changed in the centries from then to now.
>
> The interpretation changed.
>
> When the Arabs conquered Alexandria, and found the pitiful remnants of
> what had once been the Great Library (what was left after the
> Christians had done with it), the conquering general sent a message
> back to the Caliph, asking what to do with with the remaining books.
>
> The message came back: “Either they agree with the Quran, in which
> case they are superfluous, or they disagree with it, in which case
> they are undesirable. In any case, destroy them.”
>
> And then, just a couple centuries later, the thinking changed, and the
> Islamic Golden Age of scholarship and learning -- the origins of
> science as we know it today -- began. Then, a few centuries after
> that, the thinking changed again, and the Golden Age ended.
>
> And just about at this point, the thinking in the Christian world
> changed, too. And so we got the Italian Renaissance -- founded on many
> of the ideas from the older Islamic learning, don’t forget. It was the
> Islamic world that had kept the old Greek learning alive (and was
> busily adding to it), while the Christian idea of “learning” was
> making endless over-decorated copies of their holy book.
There was a time in the Christian world where doctors were frowned upon.
Either god gave you health, or not. You just prayed to get well. Doctors
should not interfere. They could take a page out of the bible and put it
inside the wound.
>
> Moral: You can take exactly the same holy teachings, and selectively
> use parts of them to justify entirely opposite and contradictory
> intellectual positions. We saw that happen with both the Muslims and
> the Christians. And it happens with Jews as well.
>
> Religous argument is circular argument.
--
Cheers,
Carlos E.R.
ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;
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| From | Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-07-22 14:35 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <Ky48S.463809$khyb.404106@fx44.iad> |
| In reply to | #88975 |
On 2026-07-22, Carlos E. R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
> There was a time in the Christian world where doctors were frowned upon.
> Either god gave you health, or not. You just prayed to get well. Doctors
> should not interfere. They could take a page out of the bible and put it
> inside the wound.
There is a bomb in Gilead
Which makes a wounded hole
-- a child's mis-interpretation
If you pray hard enough, you can make water flow uphill.
How hard do you have to pray? Why, hard enough to make
water flow uphill, of course.
-- Robert A. Heinlein
--
/~\ Charlie Gibbs | In this world there are
\ / <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> | two kinds of people:
X I'm really at ac.dekanfrus | 1. Those who can extrapolate
/ \ if you read it the right way. | from incomplete data.
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| From | Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-07-22 22:49 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <113rhek$3bo6k$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #88984 |
On Wed, 22 Jul 2026 14:35:22 GMT, Charlie Gibbs wrote: > If you pray hard enough, you can make water flow uphill. How > hard do you have to pray? Why, hard enough to make water flow > uphill, of course. > -- Robert A. Heinlein There was this YouTube video, posted just after the 2020 🇺🇸 Presidential elections, when it had already become clear Trump had lost, where some supporter of his was begging all his loyal followers to pray, for the result to be overturned somehow. I posted a comment about how faith is supposed to be able to move mountains, but can it change the laws of arithmetic? Some of the responses were ... creatively off-point.
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2026-07-22 18:29 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <nccggrFuaclU5@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #88975 |
On Wed, 22 Jul 2026 13:42:47 +0200, Carlos E. R. wrote: > There was a time in the Christian world where doctors were frowned upon. > Either god gave you health, or not. You just prayed to get well. Doctors > should not interfere. They could take a page out of the bible and put it > inside the wound. You wouldn't have to go far in the US to find that belief. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Science Some adherents are more extreme than others. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snake_handling_in_Christianity I don't think the Snake Strokers are big on doctors either. Benny Hinn has done very well with faith healing although his followers may use doctors. It's not limited to Protestant sects. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sainte-Anne-de-Beaupr%C3%A9 The church features a collection of crutches and so forth. I haven't been there in over 50 years so they may have added mobility scooters. We went to Quebec for our honeymoon and Ste. Anne's is one of the local attractions. My wife was not Catholic and found it interesting. There is an outdoor Stations of the Cross, iirc. They also have a replica of the “Scala Santa”. It's a wooden staircase with 28 steps that you climb on your knees while saying the Rosary. Turnabout is fair play. After we separated she joined a church that featured speaking in tongues and spontaneous yells of 'Praise Jesus!' and the like. I was as comfortable as a cat in a room full of rocking chairs.
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| From | Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-07-22 22:46 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <113rh7v$3bo6k$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #88975 |
On Wed, 22 Jul 2026 13:42:47 +0200, Carlos E. R. wrote: > There was a time in the Christian world where doctors were frowned > upon. Either god gave you health, or not. You just prayed to get > well. Doctors should not interfere. They could take a page out of > the bible and put it inside the wound. When anaesthetic was invented, some objected to it on religious grounds -- because it would let women experience childbirth without pain. Because there is something in Genesis about how Adam and Eve were cursed when they were thrown out of the Garden of Eden, and part of the curse was that women had to suffer during childbirth.
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| From | Andreas Eder <a_eder_muc@web.de> |
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| Date | 2026-07-22 10:21 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <87v7a7igdt.fsf@eder.anydns.info> |
| In reply to | #88941 |
On Di 21 Jul 2026 at 04:13, Rich wrote: > The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote: >> On 20/07/2026 20:39, s|b wrote: >>> On 20 Jul 2026 18:30:21 GMT, rbowman wrote: >>> >>>> Aircraft carriers are 20th century technology. They lose their appeal if >>>> you have to park them 1000 miles away. I don't know if the Iranians have >>>> the capability but China and Russia certainly do. >>> >>> Ukraine has drones that can fly over 3.000 km, so if Iran has those, >>> then those carriers will have to park them even further. >>> >> We can be thankful that Islam does not mesh well with Science. > > Which is odd, given that a great number of centuries ago, the Islamic > world of that age was inventing scientific breakthrough after > scientific breakthrough. > > Modern Islam (at least the current 'strict' reading by the extremists) > is what does not mesh well with science. Islam of yore did mesh well. > Something changed in the centries from then to now. It hasn't got much to do with Islam per se, it is more the 'strict' that is important. Look at the Evangelicals in the U.S.. 'Andreas -- ceterum censeo redmondinem esse delendam
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| From | "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-07-22 13:39 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <ncbofuFc5a2U8@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #88973 |
On 2026-07-22 10:21, Andreas Eder wrote:
> On Di 21 Jul 2026 at 04:13, Rich wrote:
>
>> The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>> On 20/07/2026 20:39, s|b wrote:
>>>> On 20 Jul 2026 18:30:21 GMT, rbowman wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Aircraft carriers are 20th century technology. They lose their appeal if
>>>>> you have to park them 1000 miles away. I don't know if the Iranians have
>>>>> the capability but China and Russia certainly do.
>>>>
>>>> Ukraine has drones that can fly over 3.000 km, so if Iran has those,
>>>> then those carriers will have to park them even further.
>>>>
>>> We can be thankful that Islam does not mesh well with Science.
>>
>> Which is odd, given that a great number of centuries ago, the Islamic
>> world of that age was inventing scientific breakthrough after
>> scientific breakthrough.
>>
>> Modern Islam (at least the current 'strict' reading by the extremists)
>> is what does not mesh well with science. Islam of yore did mesh well.
>> Something changed in the centries from then to now.
>
> It hasn't got much to do with Islam per se, it is more the 'strict' that
> is important. Look at the Evangelicals in the U.S..
A room of them imposing their hands (or something) on Trump.
--
Cheers,
Carlos E.R.
ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2026-07-22 17:54 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <nccedsFuaclU2@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #88973 |
On Wed, 22 Jul 2026 10:21:34 +0200, Andreas Eder wrote: > It hasn't got much to do with Islam per se, it is more the 'strict' that > is important. Look at the Evangelicals in the U.S.. There is a state park in the eastern part of the state with many fossil remains including T. Rex and Triceratops. Interpretive trails explain the history and geology. On the other side of the small town there is a museum claiming the dinosaurs and humans coexisted and Noah may have rounded some up for the ark. A foundation run by are governor has been generous, including donating a T. Rex replica.
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| From | "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-07-21 22:30 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <nca36oFj7idU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #88932 |
On Mon, 20 Jul 2026 21:53:04 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote: > We can be thankful that Islam does not mesh well with Science. That's a misconception. Why do you think Israel bombed schools and universities in Iran? It's not because they were harbouring nukes. IIRC a lot of women graduated from those universities, even more than men. -- s|b
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