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| First post | 2026-06-28 01:23 -0400 |
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Odd - IBM Hiring MORE Humans c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-28 01:23 -0400
Re: Odd - IBM Hiring MORE Humans 🇵🇱Jacek Marcin Jaworski🇵🇱 <jmj@energokod.gda.pl> - 2026-06-28 07:53 +0200
Re: Odd - IBM Hiring MORE Humans c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-28 03:41 -0400
Re: Odd - IBM Hiring MORE Humans 🇵🇱Jacek Marcin Jaworski🇵🇱 <jmj@energokod.gda.pl> - 2026-06-28 10:42 +0200
Re: Odd - IBM Hiring MORE Humans c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-28 05:12 -0400
Re: Odd - IBM Hiring MORE Humans 🇵🇱Jacek Marcin Jaworski🇵🇱 <jmj@energokod.gda.pl> - 2026-06-28 13:50 +0200
Re: Odd - IBM Hiring MORE Humans 🇵🇱Jacek Marcin Jaworski🇵🇱 <jmj@energokod.gda.pl> - 2026-06-28 14:09 +0200
Re: Odd - IBM Hiring MORE Humans c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-29 01:12 -0400
Re: Odd - IBM Hiring MORE Humans 🇵🇱Jacek Marcin Jaworski🇵🇱 <jmj@energokod.gda.pl> - 2026-06-28 14:11 +0200
Re: Odd - IBM Hiring MORE Humans "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-28 12:45 +0200
Re: Odd - IBM Hiring MORE Humans c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-29 01:10 -0400
Re: Odd - IBM Hiring MORE Humans Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-07-08 02:53 +0000
Re: Odd - IBM Hiring MORE Humans "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-07-08 12:01 +0200
Re: Odd - IBM Hiring MORE Humans Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-07-08 17:50 +0000
Re: Odd - IBM ... Orcale? Mainframe newsgroups?? "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-06-29 13:09 +0800
| From | c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> |
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| Date | 2026-06-28 01:23 -0400 |
| Subject | Odd - IBM Hiring MORE Humans |
| Message-ID | <atucnXcSE-dOMt33nZ2dnZfqnPqdnZ2d@giganews.com> |
https://www.techspot.com/news/111343-ibm-triple-entry-level-hiring-roles-told-ai.html . . . The short ... IBM initially dropped a bunch of humans as the AI glitter took hold. But NOW it has realized that AIs have their place, but if you want innovation and creativity you have to hire hot young humans. Oracle apparently hasn't got that yet - massive layoffs. Thinks AI will solve all their issues. To hell with the damned annoying humans ! Got Oracle stock ? DUMP it. No more 'vision', the bean-counting accountants are running things and the bosses are off chasing teenaged trim on their super-yachts. Some view IBM as old and clunky ... but that's not really true. It's always been a very adaptive and future-focused company. Half of what 'other people' come out with, IBM tech/research is behind it. They are perfectly embedded in the industry, everywhere they need to be. AND they still sell mainframes - those sexy Big Black Boxes with huge specs (and branded RedHat is the favorite OS). Ah, for just one of those Big Black Boxes ! I think they're reasonably priced in the low eight figures ... depending on options ....... :-)
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| From | 🇵🇱Jacek Marcin Jaworski🇵🇱 <jmj@energokod.gda.pl> |
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| Date | 2026-06-28 07:53 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <OrmcnbWHNOJxK933nZ2dnZfqnPSdnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #88476 |
W dniu 28.06.2026 o 07:23, c186282 pisze: > Some view IBM as old and clunky ... but that's not > really true. It's always been a very adaptive and > future-focused company. Whole truth about pure evil origin IBM corpo is covered in the book: <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_and_the_Holocaust> No hype, no BS, just read and think! -- Z totaliztycznym salutem! Jacek Marcin Jaworski, Pruszcz Gd., woj. Pomorskie, Polska 🇵🇱, UE 🇪🇺; tel.: +48-609-170-742, najlepiej w godz.: 5:00-5:55 lub 16:00-17:25; <jmj@energokod.gda.pl>, gpg: 4A541AA7A6E872318B85D7F6A651CC39244B0BFA; Domowa s. WWW: <https://energokod.gda.pl>; Mini Netykieta: <https://energokod.gda.pl/MiniNetykieta.html>; Mailowa Samoobrona: <https://emailselfdefense.fsf.org/pl>. UWAGA: NIE ZACIĄGAJ "UKRYTEGO DŁUGU"! PŁAĆ ZA PROG. FOSS I INFO. INTERNETOWE! CZYTAJ DARMOWY: "17. Raport Totaliztyczny - Patroni Kontra Bankierzy": <https://energokod.gda.pl/raporty-totaliztyczne/17.%20Patroni%20Kontra%20Bankierzy.pdf>
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| From | c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> |
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| Date | 2026-06-28 03:41 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <aKWcnfzlJZeVTd33nZ2dnZfqnPednZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #88477 |
On 6/28/26 01:53, 🇵🇱Jacek Marcin Jaworski🇵🇱 wrote: > W dniu 28.06.2026 o 07:23, c186282 pisze: >> Some view IBM as old and clunky ... but that's not >> really true. It's always been a very adaptive and >> future-focused company. > > Whole truth about pure evil origin IBM corpo is covered in the book: > > <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_and_the_Holocaust> > > No hype, no BS, just read and think! Evil ??? You must be reading some interesting stuff ... Oh, and the Holocaust was a LONG LONG LONG time ago. All IBM sold at the time was tabulators. Now own a fair amount of IBM stock. Gonna KEEP it too. Good dividends and a FUTURE. Big Biz *can* be adaptive and evolutionary and IBM is one of those businesses.
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| From | 🇵🇱Jacek Marcin Jaworski🇵🇱 <jmj@energokod.gda.pl> |
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| Date | 2026-06-28 10:42 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <MKCcnZx2tIHmQ933nZ2dnZfqn_idnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #88480 |
W dniu 28.06.2026 o 09:41, c186282 pisze: > On 6/28/26 01:53, 🇵🇱Jacek Marcin Jaworski🇵🇱 wrote: >> W dniu 28.06.2026 o 07:23, c186282 pisze: >>> Some view IBM as old and clunky ... but that's not >>> really true. It's always been a very adaptive and >>> future-focused company. >> >> Whole truth about pure evil origin IBM corpo is covered in the book: >> >> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_and_the_Holocaust> >> >> No hype, no BS, just read and think! > > Evil ??? > > You must be reading some interesting stuff ... > > Oh, and the Holocaust was a LONG LONG LONG > time ago. All IBM sold at the time was > tabulators. Mt7,15 Mt7,16 Mt7,17 Mt7,18 Mt7,19 Łk,6,43 Łk,6,44 Łk,6,45 You dislike books, so I have short story for you: IBM shows well how "good" it is for eg. when Sony and Apple break huge contracts with IBM and pay billions $ in order to switch to AMD. Why? Because they were feed up with IBM Cell and with IBM PowePC processors. They were so frustrated, so they decide to start from scratch with AMD processors. > Now own a fair amount of IBM stock. Gonna > KEEP it too. Good dividends and a FUTURE. > Big Biz *can* be adaptive and evolutionary > and IBM is one of those businesses. You dislike books, so I have short explanation for you: You know exactly nothing about big corpos: they exists only due to monopoly guaranteed by governments all over the World. Corpos are "adaptive" only in order to save their monopoly. There is almost no limit how it will cost. And there is almost nothing else worth any single cent. -- Z totaliztycznym salutem! Jacek Marcin Jaworski, Pruszcz Gd., woj. Pomorskie, Polska 🇵🇱, UE 🇪🇺; tel.: +48-609-170-742, najlepiej w godz.: 5:00-5:55 lub 16:00-17:25; <jmj@energokod.gda.pl>, gpg: 4A541AA7A6E872318B85D7F6A651CC39244B0BFA; Domowa s. WWW: <https://energokod.gda.pl>; Mini Netykieta: <https://energokod.gda.pl/MiniNetykieta.html>; Mailowa Samoobrona: <https://emailselfdefense.fsf.org/pl>. UWAGA: NIE ZACIĄGAJ "UKRYTEGO DŁUGU"! PŁAĆ ZA PROG. FOSS I INFO. INTERNETOWE! CZYTAJ DARMOWY: "17. Raport Totaliztyczny - Patroni Kontra Bankierzy": <https://energokod.gda.pl/raporty-totaliztyczne/17.%20Patroni%20Kontra%20Bankierzy.pdf>
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| From | c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> |
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| Date | 2026-06-28 05:12 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <atucnWwSE-cHeN33nZ2dnZfqnPqdnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #88483 |
On 6/28/26 04:42, 🇵🇱Jacek Marcin Jaworski🇵🇱 wrote: > W dniu 28.06.2026 o 09:41, c186282 pisze: >> On 6/28/26 01:53, 🇵🇱Jacek Marcin Jaworski🇵🇱 wrote: >>> W dniu 28.06.2026 o 07:23, c186282 pisze: >>>> Some view IBM as old and clunky ... but that's not >>>> really true. It's always been a very adaptive and >>>> future-focused company. >>> >>> Whole truth about pure evil origin IBM corpo is covered in the book: >>> >>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_and_the_Holocaust> >>> >>> No hype, no BS, just read and think! >> >> Evil ??? >> >> You must be reading some interesting stuff ... >> >> Oh, and the Holocaust was a LONG LONG LONG >> time ago. All IBM sold at the time was >> tabulators. > > Mt7,15 > Mt7,16 > Mt7,17 > Mt7,18 > Mt7,19 > Łk,6,43 > Łk,6,44 > Łk,6,45 > > You dislike books, so I have short story for you: > > IBM shows well how "good" it is for eg. when Sony and Apple break huge > contracts with IBM and pay billions $ in order to switch to AMD. Why? > Because they were feed up with IBM Cell and with IBM PowePC processors. > They were so frustrated, so they decide to start from scratch with AMD > processors. Whatever. Biz choices get made - for MONEY, not 'principle'. >> Now own a fair amount of IBM stock. Gonna >> KEEP it too. Good dividends and a FUTURE. >> Big Biz *can* be adaptive and evolutionary >> and IBM is one of those businesses. > > You dislike books, so I have short explanation for you: I don't read commie, or fascist, books. > You know exactly nothing about big corpos: they exists only due to > monopoly guaranteed by governments all over the World. Corpos are > "adaptive" only in order to save their monopoly. There is almost no > limit how it will cost. And there is almost nothing else worth any > single cent. Wow - fully into the communist line ..... What's next, strapping on a suicide vest ???
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| From | 🇵🇱Jacek Marcin Jaworski🇵🇱 <jmj@energokod.gda.pl> |
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| Date | 2026-06-28 13:50 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <PIOcndD2v9sdl9z3nZ2dnZfqn_udnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #88484 |
W dniu 28.06.2026 o 11:12, c186282 pisze: >> You dislike books, so I have short explanation for you: > > I don't read commie, or fascist, books. But this <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_and_the_Holocaust> is kosher book. -- Z totaliztycznym salutem! Jacek Marcin Jaworski, Pruszcz Gd., woj. Pomorskie, Polska 🇵🇱, UE 🇪🇺; tel.: +48-609-170-742, najlepiej w godz.: 5:00-5:55 lub 16:00-17:25; <jmj@energokod.gda.pl>, gpg: 4A541AA7A6E872318B85D7F6A651CC39244B0BFA; Domowa s. WWW: <https://energokod.gda.pl>; Mini Netykieta: <https://energokod.gda.pl/MiniNetykieta.html>; Mailowa Samoobrona: <https://emailselfdefense.fsf.org/pl>. UWAGA: NIE ZACIĄGAJ "UKRYTEGO DŁUGU"! PŁAĆ ZA PROG. FOSS I INFO. INTERNETOWE! CZYTAJ DARMOWY: "17. Raport Totaliztyczny - Patroni Kontra Bankierzy": <https://energokod.gda.pl/raporty-totaliztyczne/17.%20Patroni%20Kontra%20Bankierzy.pdf>
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| From | 🇵🇱Jacek Marcin Jaworski🇵🇱 <jmj@energokod.gda.pl> |
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| Date | 2026-06-28 14:09 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <MKCcnZ92tIFmk9z3nZ2dnZfqn_idnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #88484 |
W dniu 28.06.2026 o 11:12, c186282 pisze: >> You dislike books, so I have short explanation for you: > > I don't read commie, or fascist, books. > But this <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_and_the_Holocaust> is kosher book. And: > Mt7,15 > Mt7,16 > Mt7,17 > Mt7,18 > Mt7,19 > Łk,6,43 > Łk,6,44 > Łk,6,45 , are Catholics Bible sentences. Why did you see any mention about "commie, or fascist, books"?!? -- Z totaliztycznym salutem! Jacek Marcin Jaworski, Pruszcz Gd., woj. Pomorskie, Polska 🇵🇱, UE 🇪🇺; tel.: +48-609-170-742, najlepiej w godz.: 5:00-5:55 lub 16:00-17:25; <jmj@energokod.gda.pl>, gpg: 4A541AA7A6E872318B85D7F6A651CC39244B0BFA; Domowa s. WWW: <https://energokod.gda.pl>; Mini Netykieta: <https://energokod.gda.pl/MiniNetykieta.html>; Mailowa Samoobrona: <https://emailselfdefense.fsf.org/pl>. UWAGA: NIE ZACIĄGAJ "UKRYTEGO DŁUGU"! PŁAĆ ZA PROG. FOSS I INFO. INTERNETOWE! CZYTAJ DARMOWY: "17. Raport Totaliztyczny - Patroni Kontra Bankierzy": <https://energokod.gda.pl/raporty-totaliztyczne/17.%20Patroni%20Kontra%20Bankierzy.pdf>
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| From | c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> |
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| Date | 2026-06-29 01:12 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <VaKcnSdYBtQBY9z3nZ2dnZfqnPudnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #88491 |
On 6/28/26 08:09, 🇵🇱Jacek Marcin Jaworski🇵🇱 wrote: > W dniu 28.06.2026 o 11:12, c186282 pisze: >>> You dislike books, so I have short explanation for you: >> >> I don't read commie, or fascist, books. >> > > But this > > <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_and_the_Holocaust> > > is kosher book. And: > >> Mt7,15 >> Mt7,16 >> Mt7,17 >> Mt7,18 >> Mt7,19 >> Łk,6,43 >> Łk,6,44 >> Łk,6,45 > > , are Catholics Bible sentences. Not religious. > Why did you see any mention about "commie, or fascist, books"?!? Because that's where it ALWAYS goes .....
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| From | 🇵🇱Jacek Marcin Jaworski🇵🇱 <jmj@energokod.gda.pl> |
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| Date | 2026-06-28 14:11 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <MKCcnZ52tIHgktz3nZ2dnZfqn_idnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #88484 |
> Why did you see any mention about "commie, or fascist, books"?!? *Where -- Z totaliztycznym salutem! Jacek Marcin Jaworski, Pruszcz Gd., woj. Pomorskie, Polska 🇵🇱, UE 🇪🇺; tel.: +48-609-170-742, najlepiej w godz.: 5:00-5:55 lub 16:00-17:25; <jmj@energokod.gda.pl>, gpg: 4A541AA7A6E872318B85D7F6A651CC39244B0BFA; Domowa s. WWW: <https://energokod.gda.pl>; Mini Netykieta: <https://energokod.gda.pl/MiniNetykieta.html>; Mailowa Samoobrona: <https://emailselfdefense.fsf.org/pl>. UWAGA: NIE ZACIĄGAJ "UKRYTEGO DŁUGU"! PŁAĆ ZA PROG. FOSS I INFO. INTERNETOWE! CZYTAJ DARMOWY: "17. Raport Totaliztyczny - Patroni Kontra Bankierzy": <https://energokod.gda.pl/raporty-totaliztyczne/17.%20Patroni%20Kontra%20Bankierzy.pdf>
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| From | "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-06-28 12:45 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <naccb1FclutU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #88476 |
On 2026-06-28 07:23, c186282 wrote:
> https://www.techspot.com/news/111343-ibm-triple-entry-level-hiring-
> roles-told-ai.html
>
> . . .
>
> The short ... IBM initially dropped a bunch of humans
> as the AI glitter took hold. But NOW it has realized
> that AIs have their place, but if you want innovation
> and creativity you have to hire hot young humans.
Happened to Ford, recently. They fired a bunch of old engineers, and
they are rehiring them because the AI can't replace them as they thought.
...
--
Cheers,
Carlos E.R.
ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;
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| From | c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> |
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| Date | 2026-06-29 01:10 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <VaKcnSRYBtTfY9z3nZ2dnZfqnPudnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #88488 |
On 6/28/26 06:45, Carlos E. R. wrote: > On 2026-06-28 07:23, c186282 wrote: >> https://www.techspot.com/news/111343-ibm-triple-entry-level-hiring- >> roles-told-ai.html >> >> . . . >> >> The short ... IBM initially dropped a bunch of humans >> as the AI glitter took hold. But NOW it has realized >> that AIs have their place, but if you want innovation >> and creativity you have to hire hot young humans. > > Happened to Ford, recently. They fired a bunch of old engineers, and > they are rehiring them because the AI can't replace them as they thought. Alas some, perhaps many, won't GRASP that properly before they utterly destroy themselves.
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| From | Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-07-08 02:53 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <112ke3d$39o6q$4@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #88488 |
On Sun, 28 Jun 2026 12:45:53 +0200, Carlos E. R. wrote: > Happened to Ford, recently. They fired a bunch of old engineers, and > they are rehiring them because the AI can't replace them as they > thought. Did they fire the managers who recommended getting rid of those engineers?
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| From | "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-07-08 12:01 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <nb6leuFk3psU2@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #88766 |
On 2026-07-08 04:53, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:
> On Sun, 28 Jun 2026 12:45:53 +0200, Carlos E. R. wrote:
>
>> Happened to Ford, recently. They fired a bunch of old engineers, and
>> they are rehiring them because the AI can't replace them as they
>> thought.
>
> Did they fire the managers who recommended getting rid of those
> engineers?
LOL. That's an idea.
--
Cheers,
Carlos E.R.
ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;
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| From | Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-07-08 17:50 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <F5w3S.65720$F8N4.46907@fx01.iad> |
| In reply to | #88774 |
On 2026-07-08, Carlos E. R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote: > On 2026-07-08 04:53, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote: > >> On Sun, 28 Jun 2026 12:45:53 +0200, Carlos E. R. wrote: >> >>> Happened to Ford, recently. They fired a bunch of old engineers, and >>> they are rehiring them because the AI can't replace them as they >>> thought. >> >> Did they fire the managers who recommended getting rid of those >> engineers? > > LOL. That's an idea. More likely, they promoted them out of harm's way. -- /~\ Charlie Gibbs | No artificial \ / <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> | intelligence was X I'm really at ac.dekanfrus | used in the creation / \ if you read it the right way. | of this post.
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| From | "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2026-06-29 13:09 +0800 |
| Subject | Re: Odd - IBM ... Orcale? Mainframe newsgroups?? |
| Message-ID | <111sume$349r$2@toylet.eternal-september.org> |
| In reply to | #88476 |
On 6/28/2026 1:23 PM, c186282 wrote:
> https://www.techspot.com/news/111343-ibm-triple-entry-level-hiring-roles-told-ai.html
>
> . . .
>
> The short ... IBM initially dropped a bunch of humans
> as the AI glitter took hold. But NOW it has realized
> that AIs have their place, but if you want innovation
> and creativity you have to hire hot young humans.
>
> Oracle apparently hasn't got that yet - massive
>
> AND they still sell mainframes - those sexy Big
> Black Boxes with huge specs (and branded RedHat
> is the favorite OS).
>
> Ah, for just one of those Big Black Boxes ! I think
> they're reasonably priced in the low eight figures ...
> depending on options ....... :-)
Are you taling about Orcale or IBM? It seems that
your focus was NOT "IBM" at all. :)
What happened to those Usenet newsgroups
related to mainframes? Why were they dropped
or filtered? Are the messages within them
still alive? :)
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