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  Re: How do *nix machos handle M$ problems? "Anonymous Remailer (austria)" <mixmaster@remailer.privacy.at> - 2015-12-26 16:30 +0100
    Re: How do *nix machos handle M$ problems? gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2015-12-26 21:48 +0000
      Re: How do *nix machos handle M$ problems? J G Miller <miller@yoyo.ORG> - 2015-12-27 00:06 +0000
        Re: How do *nix machos handle M$ problems? Caver1 <caver1@inthemud.org> - 2015-12-26 19:24 -0500
          Re: How do *nix machos handle M$ problems? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-01-03 05:27 +0000
            Re: How do *nix machos handle M$ problems? Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2016-01-02 22:05 -0800
      Re: How do *nix machos handle M$ problems? Unknown <dog@gmail.com> - 2016-03-17 09:42 +0000
        Re: How do *nix machos handle M$ problems? "Anonymous Remailer (austria)" <mixmaster@remailer.privacy.at> - 2016-03-17 16:30 +0100
          Re: How do *nix machos handle M$ problems? William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2016-03-17 15:54 +0000

#16607 — Re: How do *nix machos handle M$ problems?

Kenny McCormack <gaze...@shell.xmission.com> [KM]:
KM>     1) It /is/ more restrictive in what are legal filename
KM>     characters.  IMHO, the Unix method (of allowing just about
KM>     anything) is just plain nuts.

If all unix users lived in an english speaking country, then
ASCII characters plus a few punctuation marks for filenames might
suffice. Now japanese and korean people obviously cannot say the same.
The world out there is bigger than what we think and your notion of
"legal" does not apply universally... Unicode and its various
encodings are the norm for millions of people, who don't share
(and don't give a dime about) your view of what is legal.

It's a good thing that unix, although invented and first used in the
US, does not impose ad-hoc unnecessary restrictions on filenames.
Learn how to live with this.

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#16619

In article <4ffdf217fbcdd908d0f1596646de0a24@remailer.privacy.at>,
Anonymous Remailer (austria) <mixmaster@remailer.privacy.at> ranted and raved:
>
>Kenny McCormack <gaze...@shell.xmission.com> [KM]:
>KM>     1) It /is/ more restrictive in what are legal filename
>KM>     characters.  IMHO, the Unix method (of allowing just about
>KM>     anything) is just plain nuts.
>
>If all unix users lived in an english speaking country, then
>ASCII characters plus a few punctuation marks for filenames might
>suffice. Now japanese and korean people obviously cannot say the same.
>The world out there is bigger than what we think and your notion of
>"legal" does not apply universally... Unicode and its various
>encodings are the norm for millions of people, who don't share
>(and don't give a dime about) your view of what is legal.
>
>It's a good thing that unix, although invented and first used in the
>US, does not impose ad-hoc unnecessary restrictions on filenames.
>Learn how to live with this.
>

Somebody needs to get back on their meds.

-- 
The problem in US politics today is that it is no longer a Right/Left
thing, or a Conservative/Liberal thing, or even a Republican/Democrat
thing, but rather an Insane/not-Insane thing.

(And no, there's no way you can spin this into any confusion about
who's who...)

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#16621

On Satuday, December 26th, 2015, at 21:48:20 +0000,
Kenny McCormack commanded:

> Somebody needs to get back on their meds.

 A well tranquilized populace, being necessary for the coercion
 of the state, the right of the people to take medication
 and be addicted to narcotics, shall not be infringed.

-- 

 "From Mercury to Pluto, wherever danger threatens the universe,
  you will find Dantro the Planet Man fighting for fair play."

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#16622

On 12/26/2015 07:06 PM, J G Miller wrote:
> On Satuday, December 26th, 2015, at 21:48:20 +0000,
> Kenny McCormack commanded:
>
>> Somebody needs to get back on their meds.
>
>   A well tranquilized populace, being necessary for the coercion
>   of the state, the right of the people to take medication
>   and be addicted to narcotics, shall not be infringed.
>

We tried to do that in the 60's. :)

-- 
Caver1

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#16655

On 2015-12-27, Caver1 <caver1@inthemud.org> wrote:

> On 12/26/2015 07:06 PM, J G Miller wrote:
>
>> On Satuday, December 26th, 2015, at 21:48:20 +0000,
>> Kenny McCormack commanded:
>>
>>> Somebody needs to get back on their meds.
>>
>>   A well tranquilized populace, being necessary for the coercion
>>   of the state, the right of the people to take medication
>>   and be addicted to narcotics, shall not be infringed.
>
> We tried to do that in the 60's. :)

Yeah, but the government wasn't controlling the narcotics then.
They're still furious about that.

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#16657

On 01/02/2016 09:27 PM, Charlie Gibbs wrote:
> On 2015-12-27, Caver1 <caver1@inthemud.org> wrote:
>
>> On 12/26/2015 07:06 PM, J G Miller wrote:
>>
>>> On Satuday, December 26th, 2015, at 21:48:20 +0000,
>>> Kenny McCormack commanded:
>>>
>>>> Somebody needs to get back on their meds.
>>>
>>>    A well tranquilized populace, being necessary for the coercion
>>>    of the state, the right of the people to take medication
>>>    and be addicted to narcotics, shall not be infringed.
>>
>> We tried to do that in the 60's. :)
>
> Yeah, but the government wasn't controlling the narcotics then.
> They're still furious about that.
>

	They could not control alcohol with a constitutional amendment
so they had far less chance of controlling drugs with the same but
not constitutional method of prohibition.
	The right of the people to use whatever poison they wish cannot
be infringed except at the production end.  All the drug laws with
horrendous punishment to be applied to end users only helped maintain
the prices of the various drugs.

	bliss

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#17036

On Sat, 26 Dec 2015 21:48:20 +0000, Kenny McCormack wrote:

> In article <4ffdf217fbcdd908d0f1596646de0a24@remailer.privacy.at>,
> Anonymous Remailer (austria) <mixmaster@remailer.privacy.at> ranted and
> raved:
>>
>>Kenny McCormack <gaze...@shell.xmission.com> [KM]: KM>     1) It /is/
>>more restrictive in what are legal filename KM>     characters.  IMHO,
>>the Unix method (of allowing just about KM>     anything) is just plain
>>nuts.
>>
>>If all unix users lived in an english speaking country, then ASCII
>>characters plus a few punctuation marks for filenames might suffice. Now
>>japanese and korean people obviously cannot say the same. The world out
>>there is bigger than what we think and your notion of "legal" does not
>>apply universally... Unicode and its various encodings are the norm for
>>millions of people, who don't share (and don't give a dime about) your
>>view of what is legal.
>>
>>It's a good thing that unix, although invented and first used in the US,
>>does not impose ad-hoc unnecessary restrictions on filenames. Learn how
>>to live with this.
>>
Yes catering for japanese and korean and Arabic, Cyrillic, Hindi ...
via Unicode is great.
But messing ASCII for ENGLISH by replacing the quote with 3 bytes is
ABSURD!!

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#17043

Unknown <...@gmail.com> [U]:
U> catering for japanese and korean and Arabic, Cyrillic,
U> Hindi ...  via Unicode is great.  But messing ASCII for
U> ENGLISH by replacing the quote with 3 bytes is ABSURD!!

Open a book/webpage or two about typography.
Hint: opening and closing quote characters can (and in some cases
must) be different even in ENGLISH publications.

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#17044

On 2016-03-17, Anonymous Remailer (austria) <mixmaster@remailer.privacy.at> wrote:
>
> Unknown <...@gmail.com> [U]:
> U> catering for japanese and korean and Arabic, Cyrillic,
> U> Hindi ...  via Unicode is great.  But messing ASCII for
> U> ENGLISH by replacing the quote with 3 bytes is ABSURD!!
>
> Open a book/webpage or two about typography.
> Hint: opening and closing quote characters can (and in some cases
> must) be different even in ENGLISH publications.

Yes, IF one regards usenet posts as "publications". I had always thought
that usenet posts were informal messages, where the content took
precedence over beauty of format.

>

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