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Does anybody remember mulinux:

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  Does anybody remember mulinux: noSpam@gmail.com - 2015-08-19 11:21 +0000
    Re: Does anybody remember mulinux: Unknown <dog@gmail.com> - 2015-08-21 03:43 +0000
      Re: Does anybody remember mulinux: Michael Baeuerle <michael.baeuerle@stz-e.de> - 2015-08-21 07:27 +0000
      Re: Does anybody remember mulinux: Joe Beanfish <joebeanfish@nospam.duh> - 2015-08-21 13:16 +0000

#15162 — Does anybody remember mulinux:

FromnoSpam@gmail.com
Date2015-08-19 11:21 +0000
SubjectDoes anybody remember mulinux:
Message-ID<mr1orr$npf$1@dont-email.me>
  a full linux system on one fd0 from the 90s, open source; by this Italian
bloke, who I later discovered was the ?? university prof.
    All the effort that I've spent collecting eg. search-scripts:
$Dir, $FileName, $FileAge, skip: *.zip, *.pdf...etc, $String1,
 $String2 ....etc. is WASTED cos I can't remember the script names.
   You MUST have a menu-system. So I probed the possibility of porting
<(C) 1999 by M. Andreoli>'s code.
 Some pastes below [best viewed with fixed-width-font] are 
staggering for me; and it's in colour:-
----------------
                                 System Info
 _        __
(_)_ __  / _| ___    _
| | '_ \| |_ / _ \  (_)
| | | | |  _| (_) |  _          /proc based
|_|_| |_|_|  \___/  (_)         system info

     Boot: log
Processor:
           version    cpuinfo    ioports    dma        devices
           interrupts pci        pciprobe   stat

   System:
           processes  meminfo    loadavg    uptime     scsi
           disks      modules    sound      inittab
           commands   date
FileSystem:
           supported  mounted
  Network:
           interfaces routing    filtering  hostname   hosts
           nameserver services   SMB-shares netstat

[q]uit                                 (C)1999 Rustic Software Foundation, Inc.
interrupts
==============> I selected interrupts , and got the following.
Info: interrupts
           CPU0       CPU1
  0:        126          0   IO-APIC-edge      timer
  1:     350486          0   IO-APIC-edge      i8042
  4:          2          0   IO-APIC-edge
  6:          2          0   IO-APIC-edge      floppy
  7:          1          0   IO-APIC-edge      parport0
  8:          1          0   IO-APIC-edge      rtc0
  9:          0          0   IO-APIC-fasteoi   acpi
 12:   34051811          0   IO-APIC-edge      i8042
 14:     704824          0   IO-APIC-edge      ide0
 21:    1877474          0   IO-APIC-fasteoi   ohci_hcd:usb2
 22:    1091531          0   IO-APIC-fasteoi   ehci_hcd:usb1
 23:      55912          0   IO-APIC-fasteoi   HDA Intel
 27:    4679949          0   PCI-MSI-edge      ahci
 28:  131065972          0   PCI-MSI-edge      eth0
NMI:          0          0   Non-maskable interrupts
LOC: 1285002161 1285002926   Local timer interrupts
RES:      90743     273541   Rescheduling interrupts
CAL:        870       1251   Function call interrupts
TLB:      20799      16598   TLB shootdowns
TRM:          0          0   Thermal event interrupts
[p] print the page, [q] back
cursor up/down, pag up/down to move.                           v0.267, mutt mode
====== interrups is 'deep' so let's test an easy one:--
Info: modules
Module                  Size  Used by
ppp_deflate             4412  0
bsd_comp                5244  0
ppp_async               8668  0
crc_ccitt               1628  1 ppp_async
ppp_generic            22472  3 ppp_deflate,bsd_comp,ppp_async
slhc                    5404  1 ppp_generic
cdc_ether               4732  0
usbnet                 13764  1 cdc_ether
mii                     4380  1 usbnet
usbserial              29448  0
cdc_acm                14752  0
snd_seq_dummy           2464  0
snd_seq_oss            29792  0
snd_seq_midi_event      5980  1 snd_seq_oss
snd_seq                47984  5 snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi_event
snd_seq_device          6088  3 snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq
snd_pcm_oss            37728  0
snd_mixer_oss          14300  1 snd_pcm_oss
bridge                 47344  0
stp                     1984  1 bridge
[p] print the page, [q] back
cursor up/down, pag up/down to move.                           v0.267, mutt mode
--------------------> off course it scrolls down, as shown by this selection:-
Info: disks

Disk /dev/sda: 1000.2 GB, 1000204886016 bytes
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 121601 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
Disk identifier: 0xe0857fdb

   Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
/dev/sda1   *           1          13      102400    7  HPFS/NTFS
Partition 1 does not end on cylinder boundary.
/dev/sda2              13       31871   255896576    7  HPFS/NTFS
/dev/sda3           31871       60200   227555328    7  HPFS/NTFS
/dev/sda4           60200       72509    98864783    5  Extended
/dev/sda5           60200       72481    98639872   83  Linux
/dev/sda6           72481       72488       56196   83  Linux
/dev/sda7   *       72488       72495       56196   83  Linux
/dev/sda8           72495       72502       56196   83  Linux
/dev/sda9           72502       72509       56196   83  Linux

Disk /dev/sdc: 500.1 GB, 500107862016 bytes
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 60801 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
[p] print the page, [q] back
page 4/5, line 64/91
----------------------------------------------------------------------
What a pleasant surprise/reminder and a shock to realise the degeneration
over the last 15 years.    It's all eye-candy & wrapping today.
The blog-writers are imitating lawers and the code [lisp, which has no
non-ASCII-chars to need graphics] is supplied as *.png files.

Is it related to the obesity problem in the 'anglo world' that I've read
about?

PS. he used `ash`, with very few binaries; so it's all open, and the
 educational value is tremendous.
This <info panel> is just a sample of what he provides to manage
the system.  Eg:------
                Help muLinux Hypertextual System (807 bytes)                 
 _____           _
|_   _|__  _ __ (_) ___ ___   _
  | |/ _ \| '_ \| |/ __/ __| (_)
  | | (_) | |_) | | (__\__ \  _
  |_|\___/| .__/|_|\___|___/ (_)
          |_|
Addon-HOWTO             connect-to-internet     partitions
EMU-addon               conversions             pc2pc
FAQ                     dos-unix                printing
Modules                 e3-editor               runlevels
NEWBIE                  fax                     sniffit
RDPS                    file-manager            sound
Samba                   finger                  ssh
Setup                   format-floppy           tcp
TCL-addon               ftp                     time-date
TeX                     hex-editor              unix-tips.eng
Tips                    ipfwadm                 unix-tips.es
VNC                     irc                     unix-tips.it
XWindow                 job-scheduler           unix.basic
adduser                 keyboard                vi.eng
archiving               lynx                    vi.it
browsing                mail                    virtual-console
cd-writing              modem-terminal          web-server
cdrom                   muless                  whois
cloning                 newsgroups
close-the-system        nfsroot


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Addon-HOWTO


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#15175

FromUnknown <dog@gmail.com>
Date2015-08-21 03:43 +0000
Message-ID<pan.2015.08.21.03.47.31@gmail.com>
In reply to#15162
On Wed, 19 Aug 2015 11:21:31 +0000, noSpam wrote:

> a full linux system on one fd0 from the 90s, open source; by this
> Italian bloke, who I later discovered was the ?? university prof.
>     All the effort that I've spent collecting eg. search-scripts:
> $Dir, $FileName, $FileAge, skip: *.zip, *.pdf...etc, $String1,
>  $String2 ....etc. is WASTED cos I can't remember the script names.
>    You MUST have a menu-system. So I probed the possibility of porting
> <(C) 1999 by M. Andreoli>'s code.
>  Some pastes below [best viewed with fixed-width-font] are
> staggering for me; and it's in colour:- ----------------
-- snip --
OK, I see that pasting to the NewsReader is problematic.
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> What a pleasant surprise/reminder and a shock to realise the
> degeneration over the last 15 years.    It's all eye-candy & wrapping
> today. The blog-writers are imitating lawers and the code [lisp, which
> has no non-ASCII-chars to need graphics] is supplied as *.png files.
> 
> PS. he used `ash`, with very few binaries; so it's all open, and the
>  educational value is tremendous.
> This <info panel> is just a sample of what he provides to manage the
> system.  Eg:------
>                 Help muLinux Hypertextual System (807 bytes)
>  _____           _
> |_   _|__  _ __ (_) ___ ___   _
>   | |/ _ \| '_ \| |/ __/ __| (_)
>   | | (_) | |_) | | (__\__ \  _
>   |_|\___/| .__/|_|\___|___/ (_)
>           |_|
> Addon-HOWTO             connect-to-internet     partitions EMU-addon    
 
Again his formatting, which is fine in a terminal, doesn't paste well
to this NewsReader. I'll see what it looks like in my other Newsreader?

>  | [p]rint | [q]uit
> Addon-HOWTO

Interestingly:
ls -l  /bin/bash  ==  678832 2007-05-11 00:19 /bin/bash*
ls -l  /bin/ash   ==   94560 2002-06-02 21:13 /bin/ash*

So if bash is 8-times the size of ash, are there spooky problems with ash?

His minimalist top-level-design impresses me:
* have a dir of WellNamed helpFiles;
* use the listing of these helpFiles, as the menu-keys.

/bin/ls -C /usr/doc/help | \ 
while read line
do
set -- $line
printf "%-25s %-25s %-25s" ".$1." ".$2." ".$3."
echo
done >>/tmp/help.cnt

kill -10 $pid 2>/dev/null   <-- Spooky stuff !!

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#15176

FromMichael Baeuerle <michael.baeuerle@stz-e.de>
Date2015-08-21 07:27 +0000
Message-ID<AABV1s920MIAAAoH.A1.flnews@WStation3.stz-e.de>
In reply to#15175
Unknown wrote:
> 
> Interestingly:
> ls -l  /bin/bash  ==  678832 2007-05-11 00:19 /bin/bash*
> ls -l  /bin/ash   ==   94560 2002-06-02 21:13 /bin/ash*

Other example:
| 
| $ ls -l --time-style=long-iso bash
| -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 964884 2015-04-13 17:25 bash
[Version 4.3.30]
| 
| $ ls -l --time-style=long-iso dash
| -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 105012 2014-07-11 16:16 dash
[Version 0.5.7]
| 
| $ ls -l --time-style=long-iso pdksh
| -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 217540 2014-07-11 16:17 pdksh
[Version 5.2.14]

bash is a really fat shell.


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#15177

FromJoe Beanfish <joebeanfish@nospam.duh>
Date2015-08-21 13:16 +0000
Message-ID<mr78bt$fhu$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#15175
On Fri, 21 Aug 2015 03:43:27 +0000, Unknown wrote:
>>  _____           _
>> |_   _|__  _ __ (_) ___ ___   _
>>   | |/ _ \| '_ \| |/ __/ __| (_)
>>   | | (_) | |_) | | (__\__ \  _
>>   |_|\___/| .__/|_|\___|___/ (_)
>>           |_|
>  
> Again his formatting, which is fine in a terminal, doesn't paste well
> to this NewsReader. I'll see what it looks like in my other Newsreader?

Or adjust your preferences to use a monospace font.

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