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Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud

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First post2015-03-04 13:14 +0000
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  Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud Tim Watts <tw_usenet@dionic.net> - 2015-03-04 13:14 +0000
    Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud Jeroen Belleman <jeroen@nospam.please> - 2015-03-04 15:15 +0100
      Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2015-03-04 14:19 +0000
      Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud Tim Watts <tw_usenet@dionic.net> - 2015-03-04 14:32 +0000
        Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud Robert Heller <heller@deepsoft.com> - 2015-03-04 08:53 -0600
          Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud Tim Watts <tw_usenet@dionic.net> - 2015-03-04 15:08 +0000
            Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud Kirk_Von_Rockstein <Kirk_Von_Rockstein@nowhere.invalid> - 2015-03-05 20:11 +0000
            Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud ruben safir <ruben@mrbrklyn.com> - 2015-03-12 03:12 -0400
              Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud Tim Watts <tw_usenet@dionic.net> - 2015-03-12 08:24 +0000
                Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn@panix.com> - 2015-03-12 19:07 +0000
        Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-03-04 09:57 -0500
          Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud Tim Watts <tw_usenet@dionic.net> - 2015-03-04 15:10 +0000
            Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-03-04 11:57 -0500
              Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud Tim Watts <tw_usenet@dionic.net> - 2015-03-04 17:14 +0000
                Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud John Rumm <see.my.signature@nowhere.null> - 2015-03-23 10:47 +0000
                  Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud The Real Doctor <ian.groups@btinternet.com> - 2015-03-23 12:08 +0000
          Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud HarpingOn <postmaster@127.0.0.1> - 2015-03-04 15:11 +0000
            Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud Tim Watts <tw_usenet@dionic.net> - 2015-03-04 15:22 +0000
        Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2015-03-04 15:36 +0000
        Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud "Dennis@home" <dennis@nowhere.invalid> - 2015-03-04 17:07 +0000
          Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud Tim Watts <tw_usenet@dionic.net> - 2015-03-04 17:15 +0000
            Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud "Dennis@home" <dennis@nowhere.invalid> - 2015-03-04 18:43 +0000
              Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud Tim Watts <tw_usenet@dionic.net> - 2015-03-04 18:55 +0000
                Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud "Dennis@home" <dennis@nowhere.invalid> - 2015-03-04 19:13 +0000
                  Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud Tim Watts <tw_usenet@dionic.net> - 2015-03-04 19:48 +0000
                    Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud Theo Markettos <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2015-03-04 23:47 +0000
                      Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud Tim Watts <tw_usenet@dionic.net> - 2015-03-05 07:55 +0000
                        Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2015-03-05 09:53 +0000
                          Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud Theo Markettos <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2015-03-05 12:09 +0000
                          Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud Tim Watts <tw_usenet@dionic.net> - 2015-03-05 14:19 +0000
                            Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud "Dennis@home" <dennis@nowhere.invalid> - 2015-03-05 19:27 +0000
                              Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2015-03-05 22:04 +0000
                        Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2015-03-05 10:04 +0000
                          Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud Tim Watts <tw_usenet@dionic.net> - 2015-03-05 12:28 +0000
                            Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud Theo Markettos <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2015-03-05 13:00 +0000
                        Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud Theo Markettos <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2015-03-05 11:50 +0000
                          Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2015-03-20 14:24 -0400
                            Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud Joe Beanfish <joebeanfish@nospam.duh> - 2015-03-22 15:05 +0000
            Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-03-04 14:51 -0500
              Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud Tim Watts <tw_usenet@dionic.net> - 2015-03-04 20:16 +0000
                Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud "John F" <j@j.ii> - 2015-03-10 14:44 -0700
                  Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-03-11 17:45 +0000
                    Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud Robert Heller <heller@deepsoft.com> - 2015-03-11 14:15 -0500
                      Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud "John F" <j@j.ii> - 2015-03-11 15:42 -0700
                        Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud Tim Watts <tw_usenet@dionic.net> - 2015-03-11 23:26 +0000
                          Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-03-12 18:17 +0000
                        Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud Adrian <toomany2cvs@gmail.com> - 2015-03-12 07:47 +0000
                          Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud "John F" <j@j.ii> - 2015-03-12 12:23 -0700
                            Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud "john james" <jj9801@nospam.com> - 2015-03-13 07:19 +1100
                        Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud "Dennis@home" <dennis@nowhere.invalid> - 2015-03-12 08:22 +0000
                          Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud Folderol <general@musically.me.uk> - 2015-03-12 09:14 +0000
                            Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-03-12 09:39 +0000
                            Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud Adrian <toomany2cvs@gmail.com> - 2015-03-12 09:42 +0000
                              Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2015-03-12 16:59 +0000
                                Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud Adrian <toomany2cvs@gmail.com> - 2015-03-12 17:20 +0000
                                  Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud Robert Heller <heller@deepsoft.com> - 2015-03-12 12:49 -0500
                                  Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2015-03-12 19:03 +0000
                            Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud Tim Watts <tw_usenet@dionic.net> - 2015-03-12 10:12 +0000
                              Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-03-12 18:17 +0000
                                Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud "john james" <jj9801@nospam.com> - 2015-03-13 07:13 +1100
                                Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> - 2015-03-12 20:50 +0000
                                  Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2015-03-12 16:08 -0500
                                Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud Tim Watts <tw_usenet@dionic.net> - 2015-03-12 21:24 +0000
                                Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud Capitol <spam@wher.eva.co.uk> - 2015-03-12 22:00 +0000
                                  Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud ImperiusDamian <damianblack.wolf@gmail.com> - 2015-03-18 09:13 -0400
                                    Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud Robert Riches <spamtrap42@jacob21819.net> - 2015-03-19 02:43 +0000
                                      Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2015-03-20 14:30 -0400
                            Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud "Dennis@home" <dennis@nowhere.invalid> - 2015-03-12 20:00 +0000
                          Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud Nigel Wade <nmw@ion.le.ac.uk> - 2015-03-12 09:47 +0000
                        Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-03-12 09:38 +0000
                          Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2015-03-12 09:43 +0000
                            Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud Daniel James <daniel@me.invalid> - 2015-03-12 10:50 +0000
                              Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud "John F" <j@j.ii> - 2015-03-12 15:25 -0700
                                Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud "Dennis@home" <dennis@nowhere.invalid> - 2015-03-13 08:19 +0000
                                  Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> - 2015-03-13 12:43 +0000
                                    Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud "Dennis@home" <dennis@nowhere.invalid> - 2015-03-13 19:39 +0000
                                      Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> - 2015-03-14 02:12 +0000
                                  Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-03-13 15:13 +0000
                                    Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud Folderol <general@musically.me.uk> - 2015-03-13 16:53 +0000
                                    Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud "Dennis@home" <dennis@nowhere.invalid> - 2015-03-13 19:30 +0000
                                  Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud Daniel James <daniel@me.invalid> - 2015-03-14 13:00 +0000
                                    Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud Tim Watts <tw_usenet@dionic.net> - 2015-03-14 14:48 +0000
                                      Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2015-03-14 16:43 +0000
                                        Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud Tim Watts <tw_usenet@dionic.net> - 2015-03-14 17:58 +0000
                                          Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2015-03-14 22:41 +0000
                                        Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> - 2015-03-14 18:20 +0000
                                        Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud "Dennis@home" <dennis@nowhere.invalid> - 2015-03-14 19:34 +0000
                                          Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2015-03-14 22:43 +0000
                                          Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2015-03-20 14:53 -0400
                                      Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud Daniel James <daniel@me.invalid> - 2015-03-15 13:34 +0000
                                        Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud Folderol <general@musically.me.uk> - 2015-03-15 15:41 +0000
                                          Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> - 2015-03-15 18:40 +0000
                                            Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> - 2015-03-16 15:35 +0000
                                              Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud Theo Markettos <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2015-03-16 15:45 +0000
                                              Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud "Dennis@home" <dennis@nowhere.invalid> - 2015-03-16 16:21 +0000
                                              Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud Andy Burns <usenet.feb2014@adslpipe.co.uk> - 2015-03-16 19:05 +0000
                                                Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> - 2015-03-16 21:40 +0000
                                                  Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> - 2015-03-17 15:00 +0000
                            Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud Nigel Wade <nmw@ion.le.ac.uk> - 2015-03-12 11:17 +0000
                          Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> - 2015-03-12 12:03 +0000
                            Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud Stan Bischof <stan@worldbadminton.com> - 2015-03-12 16:28 +0000
                              Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> - 2015-03-12 20:35 +0000
                    Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud Richard Kettlewell <rjk@greenend.org.uk> - 2015-03-11 22:52 +0000
                      Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-03-12 18:17 +0000
        Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud ruben safir <ruben@mrbrklyn.com> - 2015-03-12 02:51 -0400
          Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud Tim Watts <tw_usenet@dionic.net> - 2015-03-12 08:21 +0000
            Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn@panix.com> - 2015-03-12 19:09 +0000
    Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud HarpingOn <postmaster@127.0.0.1> - 2015-03-04 15:10 +0000
      Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud Tim Watts <tw_usenet@dionic.net> - 2015-03-04 15:19 +0000
        Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud Theo Markettos <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2015-03-04 15:54 +0000
          Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud Tim Watts <tw_usenet@dionic.net> - 2015-03-04 16:10 +0000
            Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud Daniel James <daniel@me.invalid> - 2015-03-05 11:20 +0000
              Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud Tim Watts <tw_usenet@dionic.net> - 2015-03-05 12:29 +0000
    Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud Tim Watts <tw_usenet@dionic.net> - 2015-03-04 18:56 +0000
    Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> - 2015-03-05 00:33 +0000
    Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud 7 <email_at_www_at_enemygadgets_dot_com@enemygadgets.com> - 2015-03-05 22:46 +0000
      Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud Tim Watts <tw_usenet@dionic.net> - 2015-03-06 08:07 +0000
        Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud 7 <email_at_www_at_enemygadgets_dot_com@enemygadgets.com> - 2015-03-14 11:56 +0000
          Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud Tim Watts <tw_usenet@dionic.net> - 2015-03-14 14:47 +0000
            Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud "john james" <jj9801@nospam.com> - 2015-03-15 05:40 +1100
              Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud Tim Watts <tw_usenet@dionic.net> - 2015-03-14 18:51 +0000
                Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud "john james" <jj9801@nospam.com> - 2015-03-15 06:12 +1100
                  Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud Tim Watts <tw_usenet@dionic.net> - 2015-03-14 19:23 +0000
                    Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud "john james" <jj9801@nospam.com> - 2015-03-15 06:27 +1100
                      Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud Tim Watts <tw_usenet@dionic.net> - 2015-03-14 22:00 +0000
                        Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud "john james" <jj9801@nospam.com> - 2015-03-15 11:22 +1100
                        Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-03-15 09:10 +0000
                        Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud Tony Houghton <h@realh.co.uk> - 2015-03-15 00:08 +0000
                        Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> - 2015-03-15 15:34 +0000
            Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud 7 <email_at_www_at_enemygadgets_dot_com@enemygadgets.com> - 2015-03-15 18:33 +0000
              Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2015-03-16 07:46 +0000
            Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud "Anonymous Remailer (austria)" <mixmaster@remailer.privacy.at> - 2015-03-16 00:16 +0100
              Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud "John F" <j@j.ii> - 2015-03-16 10:55 -0700
                Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud Tim Watts <tw_usenet@dionic.net> - 2015-03-16 18:10 +0000
                  Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud "John F" <j@j.ii> - 2015-03-17 13:55 -0700
                    Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud Tim Watts <tw_usenet@dionic.net> - 2015-03-17 21:15 +0000
                      Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud "John F" <j@j.ii> - 2015-03-17 16:17 -0700
                        Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud Tim Watts <tw_usenet@dionic.net> - 2015-03-18 08:15 +0000
                          Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud "John F" <j@j.ii> - 2015-03-18 09:02 -0700
                            Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud Tim Watts <tw_usenet@dionic.net> - 2015-03-18 16:14 +0000
            Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud ruben <nowhere@nowhere.nor> - 2015-05-03 06:49 +0000
              Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2015-05-03 09:12 +0200
              Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud Tim Watts <tw_usenet@dionic.net> - 2015-05-03 10:57 +0100

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#13870 — Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud

FromTim Watts <tw_usenet@dionic.net>
Date2015-03-04 13:14 +0000
SubjectOpensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud
Message-ID<g3djsb-v7h.ln1@squidward.dionic.net>
I have raised this before... And tried some stuff. And I cannot believe 
there is no solution... hence the first part of the subject.


The problem: "How do I make an existing linux file server be a private 
cloud file server, targeting other linux, ChromeBooks and Android clients?"


There is a LOT of stuff that misses out of critical features - or those 
features need a paid-for version that costs $1700-9000 per year.

I've played with Tonido and OwnCloud so far.

Obvious omissions in the free versions:

a Limited shares (OwnCloud only seems to support 1 exported directory - 
I have lots);

b (Serious) Do not integrate with POSIX users. The idea is the file 
sharing should integrate with linux, not try and take over.


I did look at OpenAFS but there's no Android client.


SFTP so far offers the simplest solution but I can find no nice clients 
that offer local copies (caching) so it is still somewhat half arsed. 
And i suspect the basic nature of the protocol is it would be hard work 
to make caching multiple client copies work.


OK - allowing for the fact that "I could write it myself dammit" 
(actually, no, I don't have that type of coding skill) I'm very 
surprised such a killer app is missing from the opensource stable.

This is the same opensource that brought us *BSD, Linux, perl, python, 2 
super RDBMSs, top rate image editing, rock solid *connected* 
fileservices (NFS, SMB) allowing for the fact the latter had to be 
reverse engineered.

Have all the creative types died?

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#13871

FromJeroen Belleman <jeroen@nospam.please>
Date2015-03-04 15:15 +0100
Message-ID<md7417$uop$1@speranza.aioe.org>
In reply to#13870
On 2015-03-04 14:14, Tim Watts wrote:
> I have raised this before... And tried some stuff. And I cannot believe
> there is no solution... hence the first part of the subject.
>
>
> The problem: "How do I make an existing linux file server be a private
> cloud file server, targeting other linux, ChromeBooks and Android clients?"
>
>
> There is a LOT of stuff that misses out of critical features - or those
> features need a paid-for version that costs $1700-9000 per year.
>
> I've played with Tonido and OwnCloud so far.
>
> Obvious omissions in the free versions:
>
> a Limited shares (OwnCloud only seems to support 1 exported directory -
> I have lots);
>
> b (Serious) Do not integrate with POSIX users. The idea is the file
> sharing should integrate with linux, not try and take over.
>
>
> I did look at OpenAFS but there's no Android client.
>
>
> SFTP so far offers the simplest solution but I can find no nice clients
> that offer local copies (caching) so it is still somewhat half arsed.
> And i suspect the basic nature of the protocol is it would be hard work
> to make caching multiple client copies work.
>
>
> OK - allowing for the fact that "I could write it myself dammit"
> (actually, no, I don't have that type of coding skill) I'm very
> surprised such a killer app is missing from the opensource stable.
>
> This is the same opensource that brought us *BSD, Linux, perl, python, 2
> super RDBMSs, top rate image editing, rock solid *connected*
> fileservices (NFS, SMB) allowing for the fact the latter had to be
> reverse engineered.
>
> Have all the creative types died?
>

Bah. Linux and Unix have all sorts of remote/shared filesystems.
Of course, some 'creative' minds thought it'd be a good idea to
invent yet another such thing. That's the bane of computing. It's
so often easier to reinvent something than it is to find out how
to use the existing tricks.

Jeroen Belleman

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#13872

FromThe Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid>
Date2015-03-04 14:19 +0000
Message-ID<md748n$2ks$4@news.albasani.net>
In reply to#13871
On 04/03/15 14:15, Jeroen Belleman wrote:
> On 2015-03-04 14:14, Tim Watts wrote:
>> I have raised this before... And tried some stuff. And I cannot believe
>> there is no solution... hence the first part of the subject.
>>
>>
>> The problem: "How do I make an existing linux file server be a private
>> cloud file server, targeting other linux, ChromeBooks and Android
>> clients?"
>>
>>
>> There is a LOT of stuff that misses out of critical features - or those
>> features need a paid-for version that costs $1700-9000 per year.
>>
>> I've played with Tonido and OwnCloud so far.
>>
>> Obvious omissions in the free versions:
>>
>> a Limited shares (OwnCloud only seems to support 1 exported directory -
>> I have lots);
>>
>> b (Serious) Do not integrate with POSIX users. The idea is the file
>> sharing should integrate with linux, not try and take over.
>>
>>
>> I did look at OpenAFS but there's no Android client.
>>
>>
>> SFTP so far offers the simplest solution but I can find no nice clients
>> that offer local copies (caching) so it is still somewhat half arsed.
>> And i suspect the basic nature of the protocol is it would be hard work
>> to make caching multiple client copies work.
>>
>>
>> OK - allowing for the fact that "I could write it myself dammit"
>> (actually, no, I don't have that type of coding skill) I'm very
>> surprised such a killer app is missing from the opensource stable.
>>
>> This is the same opensource that brought us *BSD, Linux, perl, python, 2
>> super RDBMSs, top rate image editing, rock solid *connected*
>> fileservices (NFS, SMB) allowing for the fact the latter had to be
>> reverse engineered.
>>
>> Have all the creative types died?
>>
>
> Bah. Linux and Unix have all sorts of remote/shared filesystems.
> Of course, some 'creative' minds thought it'd be a good idea to
> invent yet another such thing. That's the bane of computing. It's
> so often easier to reinvent something than it is to find out how
> to use the existing tricks.
>
> Jeroen Belleman

Indeed. I find that a 'remote backup of local data' which allows global 
access to that data is easily achieved with rsync.

Assuming Linux CLIENTS


For 'within these walls' services I simply have a file server running 
NFS and samba which covers all the bases.

And its own internal backup policy and a nice minidnla server to export 
videos.


-- 
Everything you read in newspapers is absolutely true, except for the 
rare story of which you happen to have first-hand knowledge. – Erwin Knoll

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#13873

FromTim Watts <tw_usenet@dionic.net>
Date2015-03-04 14:32 +0000
Message-ID<4khjsb-2oj.ln1@squidward.dionic.net>
In reply to#13871
On 04/03/15 14:15, Jeroen Belleman wrote:

> Bah. Linux and Unix have all sorts of remote/shared filesystems.
> Of course, some 'creative' minds thought it'd be a good idea to
> invent yet another such thing. That's the bane of computing. It's
> so often easier to reinvent something than it is to find out how
> to use the existing tricks.

OK - tell me one that works well with Android, Chromebooks with a 
semi-connected internet?

Because that's what I want.

And I have not found any.

SMB - no chance
NFS - not the slightest bit suitable
OpenAFS - the right logic is there but no client support

Most of the cloud-fs solutions seem to hang around WebDAV - but probably 
augmented with update hints to aid caching and push delivery of updates.


It is a specialist network filesystem - that is for sure. It strikes me 
as strange that there are 101 commercial suppliers (Dropbox, Google, 
Evernote, Spideroak...) and yet no one has come up with a nice well 
defined open protocol that addresses replication and syncing.

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#13874

FromRobert Heller <heller@deepsoft.com>
Date2015-03-04 08:53 -0600
Message-ID<gJCdnRKzFOn5gWrJnZ2dnUU7-K2dnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#13873
At Wed, 04 Mar 2015 14:32:04 +0000 Tim Watts <tw_usenet@dionic.net> wrote:

> 
> On 04/03/15 14:15, Jeroen Belleman wrote:
> 
> > Bah. Linux and Unix have all sorts of remote/shared filesystems.
> > Of course, some 'creative' minds thought it'd be a good idea to
> > invent yet another such thing. That's the bane of computing. It's
> > so often easier to reinvent something than it is to find out how
> > to use the existing tricks.
> 
> OK - tell me one that works well with Android, Chromebooks with a 
> semi-connected internet?
> 
> Because that's what I want.
> 
> And I have not found any.
> 
> SMB - no chance
> NFS - not the slightest bit suitable
> OpenAFS - the right logic is there but no client support
> 
> Most of the cloud-fs solutions seem to hang around WebDAV - but probably 
> augmented with update hints to aid caching and push delivery of updates.

What about something like git or subversion?  *Subversion* uses a WebDAV-based 
protocol for svn-over-http(s).

> 
> 
> It is a specialist network filesystem - that is for sure. It strikes me 
> as strange that there are 101 commercial suppliers (Dropbox, Google, 
> Evernote, Spideroak...) and yet no one has come up with a nice well 
> defined open protocol that addresses replication and syncing.

What is sounds like is that you are looking for is something like subversion's 
WebDAV-based protocol.  The bits and pieces are there.  WebDAV is reasonably 
well documented.  Subversion is open source, so one can have a look at what it 
does.

As others have said, programs like rsync seem to cover the bases that Linux
*Developers* are interested in. I suspect that few of the Linux *developers*
are interested in yet another pointy-clicky 'toy'. *I* certainly have no
interest in such a toy.  OTOH, I have dial-up Internet access at home, so any 
sort of 'Cloud' services are pretty much not much use to me.  Subversion (or 
git) are about the most I can deal with.

> 
> 
>                                                                                                                                 

-- 
Robert Heller             -- 978-544-6933
Deepwoods Software        -- Custom Software Services
http://www.deepsoft.com/  -- Linux Administration Services
heller@deepsoft.com       -- Webhosting Services

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#13876

FromTim Watts <tw_usenet@dionic.net>
Date2015-03-04 15:08 +0000
Message-ID<onjjsb-auk.ln1@squidward.dionic.net>
In reply to#13874
On 04/03/15 14:53, Robert Heller wrote:
> At Wed, 04 Mar 2015 14:32:04 +0000 Tim Watts <tw_usenet@dionic.net> wrote:
>

>> It is a specialist network filesystem - that is for sure. It strikes me
>> as strange that there are 101 commercial suppliers (Dropbox, Google,
>> Evernote, Spideroak...) and yet no one has come up with a nice well
>> defined open protocol that addresses replication and syncing.
>
> What is sounds like is that you are looking for is something like subversion's
> WebDAV-based protocol.  The bits and pieces are there.  WebDAV is reasonably
> well documented.  Subversion is open source, so one can have a look at what it
> does.

Hmm - I do wonder how that would scale with big binary files. But I 
agree, there is almost certainly something useful in the meta data that 
would assist sync-ing. if we dispensed with the ability to roll back and 
simply worried about every client's idea of the HEAD version, then it 
would be easy for clients to work out who had the most recent copy.

But I think the mercurial logic would be better suited compared to SVN 
as Mercurial is an HTTP based version of Git and Git was designed from 
the ground up to be devoid of any central authority.

> As others have said, programs like rsync seem to cover the bases that Linux
> *Developers* are interested in. I suspect that few of the Linux *developers*
> are interested in yet another pointy-clicky 'toy'. *I* certainly have no
> interest in such a toy.

With respect I would hardly describe it as a "toy"

It is a real world problem.

Case in point:

10 years ago my house had desktops, connected by NFS to a central server 
and all was well.

Now, we have people (4) passing laptops, pads and phones around. And we 
may be needing a chromebook for the kids (schooling). NFS simply does 
not work.

I find myself uploading stuff ad hoc to Google Drive just so SWMBO can 
look at a copy on her phone.

if I don't get a solution in place we will have 7 devices with random 
bits of random peoples files all over them.

Open source dev folk use pads and phones - maybe not Chromebooks - but I 
refuse to believe they are so stuck in the stone age they cannot see 
where the future is going. Right now it's a mess.

This is most definitely a problem that needs a solution even if not 
everyone knows it yet.

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#13940

FromKirk_Von_Rockstein <Kirk_Von_Rockstein@nowhere.invalid>
Date2015-03-05 20:11 +0000
Message-ID<clrrk1Fd2otU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#13876
On 2015-03-04, Tim Watts <tw_usenet@dionic.net> wrote:
> On 04/03/15 14:53, Robert Heller wrote:
>> At Wed, 04 Mar 2015 14:32:04 +0000 Tim Watts <tw_usenet@dionic.net> wrote:
>>
>
>>> It is a specialist network filesystem - that is for sure. It strikes me
>>> as strange that there are 101 commercial suppliers (Dropbox, Google,
>>> Evernote, Spideroak...) and yet no one has come up with a nice well
>>> defined open protocol that addresses replication and syncing.
>>
<snip for brev>



Check out git-annex assistant

http://git-annex.branchable.com/assistant/

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#14020

Fromruben safir <ruben@mrbrklyn.com>
Date2015-03-12 03:12 -0400
Message-ID<mdre9g$rl7$1@reader1.panix.com>
In reply to#13876
On 03/04/2015 10:08 AM, Tim Watts wrote:
>> As others have said, programs like rsync seem to cover the bases that
>> Linux
>> *Developers* are interested in. I suspect that few of the Linux
>> *developers*
>> are interested in yet another pointy-clicky 'toy'. *I* certainly have no
>> interest in such a toy.
> 
> With respect I would hardly describe it as a "toy"


No, a toy should be harmless.  It is a huge security hole those pads are designed 
from the ground up to entrap the user and it adds NOTHING to the user experience 
that hasn't already been available.  What people NEED is their own servers and 
connectivity with private access.  All those tools are already built.

The rest is just a means to steal your data and track you.  Have you actually 
researched what these platforms are doing.

http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2013/10/googles-iron-grip-on-android-controlling-open-source-by-any-means-necessary/

Should we discuss security?

http://www.consumerreports.org/cro/magazine/2013/06/keep-your-phone-safe/index.htm
http://simson.net/ref/security_cellphones.htm
http://www.cse.wustl.edu/~jain/cse574-06/ftp/cellular_security/index.html
http://www.phonescoop.com/articles/article.php?a=14201
http://www.fiercehealthcare.com/story/jackson-health-bans-cell-phones-volunteers-after-data-breach/2013-01-11
http://www.webwatcher.com/mobile-monitoring
http://www.naturalnews.com/041483_security_breach_mobile_phones_hackers.html

Cloud Data Storage?
http://www.govtech.com/security/Data-Breaches-in-the-Cloud-Whos-Responsible.html
http://www.cloudcomputing-news.net/news/2015/jan/28/frequency-vs-size-data-breaches-which-worse/
http://www.pcworld.com/article/214775/microsoft_cloud_data_breach_sign_of_future.html
http://www.hitechanswers.net/responding-to-a-data-breach-in-the-cloud/
http://cloudtweaks.com/2015/02/cloud-infographic-data-breaches-united-states/
http://www.net-security.org/secworld.php?id=16964
http://www.govtech.com/security/Data-Breaches-in-the-Cloud-Whos-Responsible.html

Tracking?
http://www2.i-sight.com/customer-complaint-tracking-software-4/?leadsource=bing
http://www.cell-tracker.info/tracking/
http://thehackernews.com/2012/02/how-hackers-can-track-your-mobile-phone.html
http://imanetwork.org/cell-phone-tracking-hack/
http://www.webwatcher.com/mobile-monitoring
http://www.naturalnews.com/041483_security_breach_mobile_phones_hackers.html

http://www.csmonitor.com/World/Passcode/2015/0216/Web-privacy-is-the-newest-luxury-item-in-era-of-pervasive-tracking
http://blogs.wsj.com/digits/2015/02/18/att-offers-data-privacy-for-a-price/
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2948080/Have-hacked-WhatsApp-Software-lets-stalkers-track-users-bypassing-privacy-settings.html
http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2015/mar/11/internet-of-things-hacked-online-perils-future
https://fas.org/blogs/secrecy/2015/03/data-and-goliath/
http://marketingland.com/balancing-act-value-privacy-120517
http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/03/11/netherlands-data-privacy-idUSL5N0WD49W20150311


YOU DON'T NEED Free Software tools to help you hang yourself digitally.

You need to through that thing away.

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#14024

FromTim Watts <tw_usenet@dionic.net>
Date2015-03-12 08:24 +0000
Message-ID<e2v7tb-vi3.ln1@squidward.dionic.net>
In reply to#14020
On 12/03/15 07:12, ruben safir wrote:
> On 03/04/2015 10:08 AM, Tim Watts wrote:

> YOU DON'T NEED Free Software tools to help you hang yourself digitally.
>
> You need to through that thing away.

Yes yes - we know what google is doing.

Now, back in the real world, my userbase (of 3 family members) *are* 
using this stuff so I have to support it - somehow.

As much as I admire Stallman's uncompromising approach, Linus's 
pragmatism usually gets more done... I'll put myself in the pragmatic camp.

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#14044

FromRuben Safir <mrbrklyn@panix.com>
Date2015-03-12 19:07 +0000
Message-ID<mdso50$prf$1@reader1.panix.com>
In reply to#14024
Tim Watts <tw_usenet@dionic.net> wrote:
> On 12/03/15 07:12, ruben safir wrote:
>> On 03/04/2015 10:08 AM, Tim Watts wrote:
> 
>> YOU DON'T NEED Free Software tools to help you hang yourself digitally.
>>
>> You need to through that thing away.
> 
> Yes yes - we know what google is doing.
> 
> Now, back in the real world, my userbase (of 3 family members) *are* 
> using this stuff so I have to support it - somehow.
> 

Is that the same real world that allows for cross posting to usenet
groups?

No offense, Tim, but you wouldn't know the "real World" if it hit you in
the head.

I up your three kids with my six.



> As much as I admire Stallman's uncompromising approach, Linus's 
> pragmatism usually gets more done... I'll put myself in the pragmatic camp.


I wasn't taking stallman, I was talking about the pragmatic studity of
using locked down slaveware platforms that are insecure...

What?  Your not asking how it is that we don't connect to your exchange
server?

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#13875

FromDan Espen <despen@verizon.net>
Date2015-03-04 09:57 -0500
Message-ID<md76fc$1qo$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#13873
Tim Watts <tw_usenet@dionic.net> writes:

> On 04/03/15 14:15, Jeroen Belleman wrote:
>
>> Bah. Linux and Unix have all sorts of remote/shared filesystems.
>> Of course, some 'creative' minds thought it'd be a good idea to
>> invent yet another such thing. That's the bane of computing. It's
>> so often easier to reinvent something than it is to find out how
>> to use the existing tricks.
>
> OK - tell me one that works well with Android, Chromebooks with a
> semi-connected internet?
>
> Because that's what I want.
>
> And I have not found any.
>
> SMB - no chance

Both my Kindle and Android have no problem with Samba shares over
wireless.

-- 
Dan Espen

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#13878

FromTim Watts <tw_usenet@dionic.net>
Date2015-03-04 15:10 +0000
Message-ID<osjjsb-auk.ln1@squidward.dionic.net>
In reply to#13875
On 04/03/15 14:57, Dan Espen wrote:
> Tim Watts <tw_usenet@dionic.net> writes:

>> SMB - no chance
>
> Both my Kindle and Android have no problem with Samba shares over
> wireless.
>

OK - I'm interesed - please tell me more.

What client are you using and can it offline sync certain files?

That was an assumption on my part - I have not seen SMB jump out at me 
with my interaction with Android.

However, it's no bother to install SaMBa on teh servers if it solves the 
problem... At least I know it works correctly at the back end (user 
auth, POSIX UID/GID mapping etc).

Cheers!


Tim

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#13895

FromDan Espen <despen@verizon.net>
Date2015-03-04 11:57 -0500
Message-ID<md7dgr$3bv$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#13878
Tim Watts <tw_usenet@dionic.net> writes:

> On 04/03/15 14:57, Dan Espen wrote:
>> Tim Watts <tw_usenet@dionic.net> writes:
>
>>> SMB - no chance
>>
>> Both my Kindle and Android have no problem with Samba shares over
>> wireless.
>>
>
> OK - I'm interesed - please tell me more.
>
> What client are you using and can it offline sync certain files?

ES3.

Maybe I'm not clear on what you want.
ES3 allows the devices to mount Samba shares.

I have a large directory full of music.
Either device can mount the share and play the music.

If I wanted to sync to the device, I'd just run rsync on either end.

I use something different for photo sharing over USB.
Since the photos may appear as a filesystem or using MTP,
I use Gphoto2 to copy from device to Linux hard disk or
to remove photos I don't want from the device.

> That was an assumption on my part - I have not seen SMB jump out at me
> with my interaction with Android.

Android being Linux can run a Samba client just fine.
There's more than one Samba client as I remember.

> However, it's no bother to install SaMBa on teh servers if it solves
> the problem... At least I know it works correctly at the back end
> (user auth, POSIX UID/GID mapping etc).

You can run Samba and/or NFS.  Windows can also do NFS
(I read somewhere), but Samba is more universal.

-- 
Dan Espen

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#13899

FromTim Watts <tw_usenet@dionic.net>
Date2015-03-04 17:14 +0000
Message-ID<25rjsb-pap.ln1@squidward.dionic.net>
In reply to#13895
On 04/03/15 16:57, Dan Espen wrote:
> Tim Watts <tw_usenet@dionic.net> writes:
>
>> On 04/03/15 14:57, Dan Espen wrote:
>>> Tim Watts <tw_usenet@dionic.net> writes:
>>
>>>> SMB - no chance
>>>
>>> Both my Kindle and Android have no problem with Samba shares over
>>> wireless.
>>>
>>
>> OK - I'm interesed - please tell me more.
>>
>> What client are you using and can it offline sync certain files?
>
> ES3.
>
> Maybe I'm not clear on what you want.
> ES3 allows the devices to mount Samba shares.

Thanks - that might be worth checking out as a general file manager (I 
am using "File Manager" right now).

I have managed SFTP access with mine - but the main sticking point is 
you cannot mark files for offline access (aka Keep on Device").

The whole "mount SFTP/SMB" thing is an acceptable last resort - but I 
really would like to have user selectable caching as that makes a big 
difference in usability if the network goes away.

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#14226

FromJohn Rumm <see.my.signature@nowhere.null>
Date2015-03-23 10:47 +0000
Message-ID<_f2dneHhpI_KcpLInZ2dnUVZ8r-dnZ2d@brightview.co.uk>
In reply to#13899
On 04/03/2015 17:14, Tim Watts wrote:
> On 04/03/15 16:57, Dan Espen wrote:
>> Tim Watts <tw_usenet@dionic.net> writes:
>>
>>> On 04/03/15 14:57, Dan Espen wrote:
>>>> Tim Watts <tw_usenet@dionic.net> writes:
>>>
>>>>> SMB - no chance
>>>>
>>>> Both my Kindle and Android have no problem with Samba shares over
>>>> wireless.
>>>>
>>>
>>> OK - I'm interesed - please tell me more.
>>>
>>> What client are you using and can it offline sync certain files?
>>
>> ES3.
>>
>> Maybe I'm not clear on what you want.
>> ES3 allows the devices to mount Samba shares.
>
> Thanks - that might be worth checking out as a general file manager (I
> am using "File Manager" right now).

I use ES File Manager. That also has no difficulty browsing NAS volumes 
etc via SMB/CIFS

> I have managed SFTP access with mine - but the main sticking point is
> you cannot mark files for offline access (aka Keep on Device").
>
> The whole "mount SFTP/SMB" thing is an acceptable last resort - but I
> really would like to have user selectable caching as that makes a big
> difference in usability if the network goes away.

To be fair I have not tried that with mine (the phone is old and slow!)


-- 
Cheers,

John.

/=================================================================\
|          Internode Ltd -  http://www.internode.co.uk            |
|-----------------------------------------------------------------|
|        John Rumm - john(at)internode(dot)co(dot)uk              |
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#14227

FromThe Real Doctor <ian.groups@btinternet.com>
Date2015-03-23 12:08 +0000
Message-ID<meovmb$2mo$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#14226
On 23/03/15 10:47, John Rumm wrote:
> I use ES File Manager. That also has no difficulty browsing NAS volumes
> etc via SMB/CIFS

I use that too. It works very nicely, and can see both SMB/CIFS and NFS 
shares.

Ian

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#13879

FromHarpingOn <postmaster@127.0.0.1>
Date2015-03-04 15:11 +0000
Message-ID<clolkiFj1n3U2@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#13875
On 04/03/2015 14:57, Dan Espen wrote:
> Tim Watts <tw_usenet@dionic.net> writes:
>
>> On 04/03/15 14:15, Jeroen Belleman wrote:
>>
>>> Bah. Linux and Unix have all sorts of remote/shared filesystems.
>>> Of course, some 'creative' minds thought it'd be a good idea to
>>> invent yet another such thing. That's the bane of computing. It's
>>> so often easier to reinvent something than it is to find out how
>>> to use the existing tricks.
>>
>> OK - tell me one that works well with Android, Chromebooks with a
>> semi-connected internet?
>>
>> Because that's what I want.
>>
>> And I have not found any.
>>
>> SMB - no chance
>
> Both my Kindle and Android have no problem with Samba shares over
> wireless.
>

My Xperia Android devices even have an option to mount SMB shares as if 
they were SD cards. Bit surprising to find that feature.

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#13881

FromTim Watts <tw_usenet@dionic.net>
Date2015-03-04 15:22 +0000
Message-ID<1ikjsb-val.ln1@squidward.dionic.net>
In reply to#13879
On 04/03/15 15:11, HarpingOn wrote:
> On 04/03/2015 14:57, Dan Espen wrote:

> My Xperia Android devices even have an option to mount SMB shares as if
> they were SD cards. Bit surprising to find that feature.

How do they respond when the network goes wobbly? Graceful failure and 
back up when the network is stable again?

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#13883

FromThe Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid>
Date2015-03-04 15:36 +0000
Message-ID<md78pp$ck2$1@news.albasani.net>
In reply to#13873
On 04/03/15 14:32, Tim Watts wrote:
> On 04/03/15 14:15, Jeroen Belleman wrote:
>
>> Bah. Linux and Unix have all sorts of remote/shared filesystems.
>> Of course, some 'creative' minds thought it'd be a good idea to
>> invent yet another such thing. That's the bane of computing. It's
>> so often easier to reinvent something than it is to find out how
>> to use the existing tricks.
>
> OK - tell me one that works well with Android, Chromebooks with a
> semi-connected internet?
>
> Because that's what I want.
>
> And I have not found any.
>
> SMB - no chance
> NFS - not the slightest bit suitable

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=ws.plattner.cifsmanager&hl=en


> OpenAFS - the right logic is there but no client support
>
> Most of the cloud-fs solutions seem to hang around WebDAV - but probably
> augmented with update hints to aid caching and push delivery of updates.
>
>
> It is a specialist network filesystem - that is for sure. It strikes me
> as strange that there are 101 commercial suppliers (Dropbox, Google,
> Evernote, Spideroak...) and yet no one has come up with a nice well
> defined open protocol that addresses replication and syncing.
>
>
This is so much a wintroll type post.

"I want EXACTLY what I used to have in Windows for nothing on Linux, and 
if Linux can't do it exactly .linux sucks'

In short if you want a commercial cloud behaviour stick to commercial 
clouds.




-- 
Everything you read in newspapers is absolutely true, except for the 
rare story of which you happen to have first-hand knowledge. – Erwin Knoll

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#13898

From"Dennis@home" <dennis@nowhere.invalid>
Date2015-03-04 17:07 +0000
Message-ID<54f73bc4$0$38615$b1db1813$5ba256c5@news.astraweb.com>
In reply to#13873
On 04/03/2015 14:32, Tim Watts wrote:
> On 04/03/15 14:15, Jeroen Belleman wrote:
>
>> Bah. Linux and Unix have all sorts of remote/shared filesystems.
>> Of course, some 'creative' minds thought it'd be a good idea to
>> invent yet another such thing. That's the bane of computing. It's
>> so often easier to reinvent something than it is to find out how
>> to use the existing tricks.
>
> OK - tell me one that works well with Android, Chromebooks with a
> semi-connected internet?

M$ one drive works quite well with android, you get 5TB to play with for 
~£60pa and you get office free on 5 PCs for that.

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