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Keeping 'order' without RTC.

Started bynot.socialnetwork@gmail.com
First post2015-02-28 12:13 +0000
Last post2015-04-14 06:46 +0000
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  Keeping 'order' without RTC. not.socialnetwork@gmail.com - 2015-02-28 12:13 +0000
    Re: Keeping 'order' without RTC. Robert Heller <heller@deepsoft.com> - 2015-02-28 06:52 -0600
    Re: Keeping 'order' without RTC. Rob <nomail@example.com> - 2015-02-28 13:17 +0000
      Re: Keeping 'order' without RTC. Robert Heller <heller@deepsoft.com> - 2015-02-28 07:59 -0600
      Re: Keeping 'order' without RTC. William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2015-02-28 18:28 +0000
        Re: Keeping 'order' without RTC. Rob <nomail@example.com> - 2015-02-28 19:13 +0000
          Re: Keeping 'order' without RTC. William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2015-02-28 19:22 +0000
            Re: Keeping 'order' without RTC. Baho Utot <baho-utot@columbus.rr.com> - 2015-02-28 15:48 -0500
            Re: Keeping 'order' without RTC. Rob <nomail@example.com> - 2015-02-28 21:14 +0000
              Re: Keeping 'order' without RTC. mm0fmf <none@mailinator.com> - 2015-02-28 22:40 +0000
                Re: Keeping 'order' without RTC. John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2015-02-28 18:01 -0600
                  Re: Keeping 'order' without RTC. William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2015-03-01 01:44 +0000
                Re: Keeping 'order' without RTC. Rob <nomail@example.com> - 2015-03-01 07:21 +0000
                  Re: Keeping 'order' without RTC. cl@isbd.net - 2015-03-01 09:17 +0000
                    Re: Keeping 'order' without RTC. alister <alister.nospam.ware@ntlworld.com> - 2015-03-01 10:08 +0000
                      Re: Keeping 'order' without RTC. Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> - 2015-03-01 11:29 +0000
                        Re: Keeping 'order' without RTC. William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2015-03-01 17:18 +0000
                          Re: Keeping 'order' without RTC. Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> - 2015-03-01 18:33 +0000
                        Re: Keeping 'order' without RTC. Unknown <dog@gmail.com> - 2015-03-02 09:06 +0000
                          Re: Keeping 'order' without RTC. alister <alister.nospam.ware@ntlworld.com> - 2015-03-02 09:19 +0000
                            Re: Keeping 'order' without RTC. mm0fmf <none@mailinator.com> - 2015-03-02 17:13 +0000
                          Re: Keeping 'order' without RTC. Rob <nomail@example.com> - 2015-03-02 09:29 +0000
                          Re: Keeping 'order' without RTC. William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2015-03-02 16:27 +0000
                            Re: Keeping 'order' without RTC. Jim Diamond <Jim.Diamond@deletethis.AcadiaU.ca> - 2015-03-05 08:36 -0400
                      Re: Keeping 'order' without RTC. cl@isbd.net - 2015-03-01 11:25 +0000
                        Re: Keeping 'order' without RTC. Rob <nomail@example.com> - 2015-03-01 11:40 +0000
                        Re: Keeping 'order' without RTC. alister <alister.nospam.ware@ntlworld.com> - 2015-03-01 16:08 +0000
                    Re: Keeping 'order' without RTC. Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2015-03-01 17:11 +0000
                      Re: Keeping 'order' without RTC. Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> - 2015-03-01 18:47 +0000
                        Re: Keeping 'order' without RTC. David Taylor <david-taylor@blueyonder.co.uk.invalid> - 2015-03-01 19:26 +0000
                        Re: Keeping 'order' without RTC. J G Miller <miller@yoyo.ORG> - 2015-03-03 22:27 +0000
                          Re: Keeping 'order' without RTC. Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> - 2015-03-04 00:50 +0000
                            Re: Keeping 'order' without RTC. William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2015-03-04 01:51 +0000
                              Re: Keeping 'order' without RTC. J G Miller <miller@yoyo.ORG> - 2015-03-04 17:05 +0000
                                Re: Keeping 'order' without RTC. William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2015-03-04 17:59 +0000
                                  Re: Keeping 'order' without RTC. David Taylor <david-taylor@blueyonder.co.uk.invalid> - 2015-03-05 11:46 +0000
                                    Re: Keeping 'order' without RTC. William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2015-03-06 00:00 +0000
                                      Re: Keeping 'order' without RTC. David Taylor <david-taylor@blueyonder.co.uk.invalid> - 2015-03-06 06:55 +0000
                            Re: Keeping 'order' without RTC. Tim Watts <tw_usenet@dionic.net> - 2015-03-04 07:31 +0000
                              Re: Keeping 'order' without RTC. Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> - 2015-03-04 10:00 +0000
                                Re: Keeping 'order' without RTC. Tim Watts <tw_usenet@dionic.net> - 2015-03-04 11:01 +0000
                                  Re: Keeping 'order' without RTC. Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> - 2015-03-04 22:15 +0000
                                    Re: Keeping 'order' without RTC. Tim Watts <tw_usenet@dionic.net> - 2015-03-04 22:20 +0000
                                    Re: Keeping 'order' without RTC. William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2015-03-05 01:07 +0000
                                      Re: Keeping 'order' without RTC. Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> - 2015-03-05 10:20 +0000
                                        Re: Keeping 'order' without RTC. Rob <nomail@example.com> - 2015-03-05 10:51 +0000
                                          Re: Keeping 'order' without RTC. David Taylor <david-taylor@blueyonder.co.uk.invalid> - 2015-03-05 11:53 +0000
                                            Re: Keeping 'order' without RTC. Rob <nomail@example.com> - 2015-03-05 15:35 +0000
                                              Re: Keeping 'order' without RTC. David Taylor <david-taylor@blueyonder.co.uk.invalid> - 2015-03-05 17:24 +0000
                                        Re: Keeping 'order' without RTC. David Taylor <david-taylor@blueyonder.co.uk.invalid> - 2015-03-05 11:49 +0000
                                        Re: Keeping 'order' without RTC. William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2015-03-05 23:56 +0000
                                Re: Keeping 'order' without RTC. William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2015-03-04 16:06 +0000
                                  Re: Keeping 'order' without RTC. Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> - 2015-03-04 22:34 +0000
                            Re: Keeping 'order' without RTC. Rob <nomail@example.com> - 2015-03-04 08:23 +0000
                              Re: Keeping 'order' without RTC. Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2015-03-04 11:19 +0000
                                Re: Keeping 'order' without RTC. mm0fmf <none@mailinator.com> - 2015-03-04 17:44 +0000
                              Re: Keeping 'order' without RTC. William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2015-03-04 16:10 +0000
                            Re: Keeping 'order' without RTC. Tauno Voipio <tauno.voipio@notused.fi.invalid> - 2015-03-04 10:43 +0200
                              Re: Keeping 'order' without RTC. David Taylor <david-taylor@blueyonder.co.uk.invalid> - 2015-03-04 09:28 +0000
                              Re: Keeping 'order' without RTC. William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2015-03-04 16:11 +0000
                          Re: Keeping 'order' without RTC. Rob <nomail@example.com> - 2015-03-04 08:22 +0000
    Re: Keeping 'order' without RTC. Richard Kettlewell <rjk@greenend.org.uk> - 2015-02-28 13:34 +0000
      Re: Keeping 'order' without RTC. Baho Utot <baho-utot@columbus.rr.com> - 2015-02-28 09:14 -0500
        Re: Keeping 'order' without RTC. Robert Heller <heller@deepsoft.com> - 2015-02-28 08:52 -0600
        Re: Keeping 'order' without RTC. Richard Kettlewell <rjk@greenend.org.uk> - 2015-02-28 15:22 +0000
          Re: Keeping 'order' without RTC. Baho Utot <baho-utot@columbus.rr.com> - 2015-02-28 15:46 -0500
            Re: Keeping 'order' without RTC. Richard Kettlewell <rjk@greenend.org.uk> - 2015-02-28 21:10 +0000
              Re: Keeping 'order' without RTC. Baho Utot <baho-utot@columbus.rr.com> - 2015-02-28 19:48 -0500
                Re: Keeping 'order' without RTC. Richard Kettlewell <rjk@greenend.org.uk> - 2015-03-01 09:08 +0000
                  Re: Keeping 'order' without RTC. Baho Utot <baho-utot@columbus.rr.com> - 2015-03-01 07:52 -0500
                    Re: Keeping 'order' without RTC. Rob Morley <nospam@ntlworld.com> - 2015-03-01 16:15 +0000
                    Re: Keeping 'order' without RTC. Mike Fleming <{mike}@tauzero.co.uk> - 2015-03-01 20:28 +0000
      Re: Keeping 'order' without RTC. not.socialnetwork@gmail.com - 2015-03-01 11:00 +0000
        Re: Keeping 'order' without RTC. Rob <nomail@example.com> - 2015-03-01 11:17 +0000
          Re: Keeping 'order' without RTC. Unknown <dog@gmail.com> - 2015-03-03 07:37 +0000
            Re: Keeping 'order' without RTC. William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2015-03-03 17:21 +0000
        Re: Keeping 'order' without RTC. Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> - 2015-03-01 11:43 +0000
          Re: Keeping 'order' without RTC. RRansil <ransil@invalid.invalid> - 2015-03-01 10:44 -0800
            Re: Keeping 'order' without RTC. mm0fmf <none@mailinator.com> - 2015-03-01 19:08 +0000
              Re: Keeping 'order' without RTC. Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> - 2015-03-01 20:46 +0000
                Re: Keeping 'order' without RTC. RRansil <ransil@invalid.invalid> - 2015-03-01 13:12 -0800
              Re: Keeping 'order' without RTC. RRansil <ransil@invalid.invalid> - 2015-03-01 13:07 -0800
            Re: Keeping 'order' without RTC. William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2015-03-01 21:56 +0000
              Re: Keeping 'order' without RTC. RRansil <ransil@invalid.invalid> - 2015-03-01 14:49 -0800
    Re: Keeping 'order' without RTC. William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2015-02-28 18:26 +0000
    Re: Keeping 'order' without RTC. David Taylor <david-taylor@blueyonder.co.uk.invalid> - 2015-02-28 19:29 +0000
    Re: Keeping 'order' without RTC. Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-03-01 14:22 -0500
      Re: Keeping 'order' without RTC. William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2015-03-01 21:54 +0000
        Re: Keeping 'order' without RTC. Johny B Good <johnny-b-good@invalid.ntlworld.com> - 2015-03-02 16:12 +0000
          Re: Keeping 'order' without RTC. Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> - 2015-03-02 19:57 +0100
            Re: Keeping 'order' without RTC. "David B" <askforemail@gmail.com> - 2015-03-03 10:15 +0000
              Re: Keeping 'order' without RTC. Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-03-03 19:38 +0000
              Re: Keeping 'order' without RTC. Jack Strangio  <jackstrangio@yahoo.com> - 2015-03-04 10:43 +0000
                Re: Keeping 'order' without RTC. Tim Watts <tw_usenet@dionic.net> - 2015-03-04 11:23 +0000
                  Re: Keeping 'order' without RTC. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2015-03-04 11:30 +0000
                Re: Keeping 'order' without RTC. Johny B Good <johnny-b-good@invalid.ntlworld.com> - 2015-03-04 15:25 +0000
                Re: Keeping 'order' without RTC. William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2015-03-04 16:13 +0000
                  Re: Keeping 'order' without RTC. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2015-03-04 16:31 +0000
                    Re: Keeping 'order' without RTC. "David B" <askforemail@gmail.com> - 2015-03-04 16:38 +0000
                    Re: Keeping 'order' without RTC. Aragorn <thorongil@telenet.be.invalid> - 2015-03-04 17:39 +0100
                      Re: Keeping 'order' without RTC. "David B" <askforemail@gmail.com> - 2015-03-04 16:53 +0000
                      Re: Keeping 'order' without RTC. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2015-03-04 17:03 +0000
                    Re: Keeping 'order' without RTC. Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2015-03-04 08:52 -0800
                      Re: Keeping 'order' without RTC. Dennis Lee Bieber <wlfraed@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-03-05 20:23 -0500
                    Re: Keeping 'order' without RTC. Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-03-04 17:29 +0000
                    Re: Keeping 'order' without RTC. Dennis Lee Bieber <wlfraed@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-03-05 20:16 -0500
                      Re: Keeping 'order' without RTC. Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-03-05 22:38 -0500
                        Re: Keeping 'order' without RTC. Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-03-06 17:46 +0000
                          Re: Keeping 'order' without RTC. Gordon Henderson <gordon+usenet@drogon.net> - 2015-03-06 18:45 +0000
                          Re: Keeping 'order' without RTC. Michael J. Mahon <mjmahon@aol.com> - 2015-03-06 14:56 -0600
                    Re: Keeping 'order' without RTC. Jack Strangio  <jackstrangio@yahoo.com> - 2015-03-06 06:30 +0000
                      Re: Keeping 'order' without RTC. "Kerr Mudd-John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2015-03-06 08:24 +0000
                        Re: Keeping 'order' without RTC. Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-03-06 17:46 +0000
                          Re: Keeping 'order' without RTC. Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2015-03-06 10:02 -0800
                      Re: Keeping 'order' without RTC. Rob <nomail@example.com> - 2015-03-06 09:26 +0000
                        Re: Keeping 'order' without RTC. Jack Strangio  <jackstrangio@yahoo.com> - 2015-03-07 00:34 +0000
                  Re: Keeping 'order' without RTC. Jack Strangio  <jackstrangio@yahoo.com> - 2015-03-06 06:21 +0000
                    Re: Keeping 'order' without RTC. alister <alister.nospam.ware@ntlworld.com> - 2015-03-06 11:17 +0000
                    Re: Keeping 'order' without RTC. Michael J. Mahon <mjmahon@aol.com> - 2015-03-06 14:56 -0600
                      Re: Keeping 'order' without RTC. Rob <nomail@example.com> - 2015-03-07 12:14 +0000
                      Re: Keeping 'order' without RTC. Jack Strangio  <jackstrangio@yahoo.com> - 2015-03-08 02:38 +0000
                        Re: Keeping 'order' without RTC. Michael J. Mahon <mjmahon@aol.com> - 2015-03-07 21:15 -0600
                          Re: Keeping 'order' without RTC. John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2015-03-07 21:44 -0600
                          Re: Keeping 'order' without RTC. Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-03-08 16:26 +0000
                        Re: Keeping 'order' without RTC. Rob <nomail@example.com> - 2015-03-08 09:42 +0000
            Re: Keeping 'order' without RTC. Johny B Good <johnny-b-good@invalid.ntlworld.com> - 2015-03-03 23:20 +0000
          Re: Keeping 'order' without RTC. Unknown <dog@gmail.com> - 2015-03-05 08:52 +0000
            Re: Keeping 'order' without RTC. alister <alister.nospam.ware@ntlworld.com> - 2015-03-05 09:13 +0000
              Re: Keeping 'order' without RTC. Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2015-03-05 09:47 +0000
                Re: Keeping 'order' without RTC. Johny B Good <johnny-b-good@invalid.ntlworld.com> - 2015-03-06 01:31 +0000
              Re: Keeping 'order' without RTC. Unknown <dog@gmail.com> - 2015-03-11 04:53 +0000
                Re: Keeping 'order' without RTC. William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2015-03-11 05:24 +0000
                  Re: Keeping 'order' without RTC. Keith Keller <kkeller-usenet@wombat.san-francisco.ca.us> - 2015-03-11 07:58 -0700
                  Re: Keeping 'order' without RTC. mm0fmf <none@mailinator.com> - 2015-03-11 19:01 +0000
                Re: Keeping 'order' without RTC. Joe Beanfish <joebeanfish@nospam.duh> - 2015-03-11 13:20 +0000
                  Re: Keeping 'order' without RTC. Unknown <dog@gmail.com> - 2015-04-12 17:17 +0000
                    Re: Keeping 'order' without RTC. Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-04-12 13:50 -0400
                      Re: Keeping 'order' without RTC. Joe Beanfish <joebeanfish@nospam.duh> - 2015-04-13 13:14 +0000
                        Re: Keeping 'order' without RTC. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2015-04-13 15:10 +0100
                          Re: Keeping 'order' without RTC. Gordon Levi <gordon@address.invalid> - 2015-04-14 00:30 +1000
                            Re: Keeping 'order' without RTC. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2015-04-13 17:47 +0100
                            Re: Keeping 'order' without RTC. Morten Reistad <first@last.name> - 2015-04-15 22:37 +0200
                              Re: Keeping 'order' without RTC. Rob Morley <nospam@ntlworld.com> - 2015-04-17 02:32 +0100
                              Re: Keeping 'order' without RTC. Unknown <dog@gmail.com> - 2015-04-25 23:09 +0000
                                Re: Keeping 'order' without RTC. Joe Beanfish <joebeanfish@nospam.duh> - 2015-04-27 13:13 +0000
                        Re: Keeping 'order' without RTC. Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-04-13 16:22 -0400
                          Re: Keeping 'order' without RTC. Dennis Lee Bieber <wlfraed@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-04-13 21:14 -0400
                            Re: Keeping 'order' without RTC. Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-04-13 21:55 -0400
                            Re: Keeping 'order' without RTC. Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> - 2015-04-14 09:06 +0000
                              Re: Keeping 'order' without RTC. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2015-04-14 10:12 +0100
                                Re: Keeping 'order' without RTC. David Taylor <david-taylor@blueyonder.co.uk.invalid> - 2015-04-14 10:29 +0100
                                Re: Keeping 'order' without RTC. Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> - 2015-04-14 12:05 +0000
                            Re: Keeping 'order' without RTC. Jerry Peters <jerry@example.invalid> - 2015-04-14 22:08 +0000
                            Re: Keeping 'order' without RTC. Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-04-16 14:11 -0400
                              Re: Keeping 'order' without RTC. Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> - 2015-04-16 20:15 +0000
                      Re: Keeping 'order' without RTC. c28f62@TheWorld.com (Mark Kramer) - 2015-04-14 05:25 +0000
                        Re: Keeping 'order' without RTC. Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-04-16 14:13 -0400
                          Re: Keeping 'order' without RTC. Jerry Peters <jerry@example.invalid> - 2015-04-16 20:18 +0000
                          Re: Keeping 'order' without RTC. c28f62@TheWorld.com (Mark Kramer) - 2015-05-04 03:44 +0000
                            Re: Keeping 'order' without RTC. William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2015-05-04 04:44 +0000
                              Re: Keeping 'order' without RTC. Jack Ryan <noreply@remailer.cpunk.us> - 2015-05-04 07:54 -0400
                                Re: Keeping 'order' without RTC. William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2015-05-04 18:26 +0000
                                  Re: Keeping 'order' without RTC. "John Williams (News)" <UCEbin@tiscali.co.uk> - 2015-05-04 19:40 +0100
                                  Re: Keeping 'order' without RTC. Kees Theunissen <theuniss@rijnh.nl> - 2015-05-04 22:31 +0200
                                    Re: Keeping 'order' without RTC. William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2015-05-04 22:35 +0000
                                      Re: Keeping 'order' without RTC. John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2015-05-04 19:13 -0500
                                        Re: Keeping 'order' without RTC. William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2015-05-05 02:56 +0000
                                          Re: Keeping 'order' without RTC. Michael Baeuerle <michael.baeuerle@stz-e.de> - 2015-05-05 08:04 +0000
                                          Re: Keeping 'order' without RTC. Richard Kettlewell <rjk@greenend.org.uk> - 2015-05-05 09:22 +0100
                                          Re: Keeping 'order' without RTC. John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2015-05-05 08:26 -0500
                                            Re: Keeping 'order' without RTC. William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2015-05-05 18:08 +0000
                                            Re: Keeping 'order' without RTC. druck <news@druck.org.uk> - 2015-05-11 23:16 +0100
                                              Re: Keeping 'order' without RTC. John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2015-05-11 17:52 -0500
                                                Re: Keeping 'order' without RTC. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2015-05-12 07:09 +0100
                                                  Re: Keeping 'order' without RTC. William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2015-05-12 06:47 +0000
                                                    Re: Keeping 'order' without RTC. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2015-05-12 08:27 +0100
                                                      Re: Keeping 'order' without RTC. William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2015-05-12 15:44 +0000
                                                        Re: Keeping 'order' without RTC. Richard Kettlewell <rjk@greenend.org.uk> - 2015-05-12 17:08 +0100
                                                          Re: Keeping 'order' without RTC. William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2015-05-12 17:21 +0000
                                                            Re: Keeping 'order' without RTC. John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2015-05-12 12:41 -0500
                                                            Re: Keeping 'order' without RTC. Richard Kettlewell <rjk@greenend.org.uk> - 2015-05-12 19:03 +0100
                                                              Re: Keeping 'order' without RTC. William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2015-05-12 18:26 +0000
                                                                Re: Keeping 'order' without RTC. Richard Kettlewell <rjk@greenend.org.uk> - 2015-05-12 19:59 +0100
                                                                  Re: Keeping 'order' without RTC. William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2015-05-12 20:05 +0000
                                                                    Re: Keeping 'order' without RTC. Richard Kettlewell <rjk@greenend.org.uk> - 2015-05-12 22:58 +0100
                                                                      Re: Keeping 'order' without RTC. William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2015-05-13 01:15 +0000
                                                                        Re: Keeping 'order' without RTC. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2015-05-13 08:14 +0100
                                                                        Re: Keeping 'order' without RTC. Richard Kettlewell <rjk@greenend.org.uk> - 2015-05-13 09:24 +0100
                                                        Re: Keeping 'order' without RTC. John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2015-05-12 11:50 -0500
                                                          Re: Keeping 'order' without RTC. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2015-05-12 18:52 +0100
                                                        Re: Keeping 'order' without RTC. c28f62@TheWorld.com (Mark Kramer) - 2015-05-12 17:29 +0000
                                                          Re: Keeping 'order' without RTC. William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2015-05-12 18:36 +0000
                                                            Re: Keeping 'order' without RTC. Richard Kettlewell <rjk@greenend.org.uk> - 2015-05-12 20:00 +0100
                                                              Re: Keeping 'order' without RTC. William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2015-05-12 20:06 +0000
                                  Re: Keeping 'order' without RTC. c28f62@TheWorld.com (Mark Kramer) - 2015-05-12 06:14 +0000
                              Re: Keeping 'order' without RTC. c28f62@TheWorld.com (Mark Kramer) - 2015-05-12 06:09 +0000
                                Re: Keeping 'order' without RTC. William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2015-05-12 06:44 +0000
                                  Re: Keeping 'order' without RTC. c28f62@TheWorld.com (Mark Kramer) - 2015-05-12 17:45 +0000
                                    Re: Keeping 'order' without RTC. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2015-05-12 21:06 +0100
                      Re: Keeping 'order' without RTC. William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2015-04-14 23:18 +0000
                        Re: Keeping 'order' without RTC. Dennis Lee Bieber <wlfraed@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-04-14 20:58 -0400
                          Re: Keeping 'order' without RTC. William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2015-04-15 06:20 +0000
                        Re: Keeping 'order' without RTC. Andrew Smallshaw <andrews@sdf.lonestar.org> - 2015-04-16 02:58 +0000
                          Re: Keeping 'order' without RTC. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2015-04-16 05:21 +0100
                          Re: Keeping 'order' without RTC. Aragorn <thorongil@telenet.be.invalid> - 2015-04-16 11:42 +0200
                            Re: Keeping 'order' without RTC. Rob <nomail@example.com> - 2015-04-16 12:10 +0000
                              Re: Keeping 'order' without RTC. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2015-04-16 13:42 +0100
                                Re: Keeping 'order' without RTC. Rob <nomail@example.com> - 2015-04-16 15:06 +0000
                                  Re: Keeping 'order' without RTC. druck <news@druck.org.uk> - 2015-04-16 23:09 +0100
                        Re: Keeping 'order' without RTC. Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-04-16 14:17 -0400
      Re: Keeping 'order' without RTC. Unknown <dog@gmail.com> - 2015-03-04 09:56 +0000
      Re: Keeping 'order' without RTC. ruben safir <ruben@mrbrklyn.com> - 2015-04-16 06:13 -0400
        Re: Keeping 'order' without RTC. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2015-04-16 12:40 +0100
          Re: Keeping 'order' without RTC. Baho Utot <baho-utot@columbus.rr.com> - 2015-04-16 16:32 -0400
        Re: Keeping 'order' without RTC. William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2015-04-17 01:54 +0000
          Re: Keeping 'order' without RTC. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2015-04-17 06:34 +0100
          Re: Keeping 'order' without RTC. Dr J R Stockton <reply1500@merlyn.demon.co.uk.invalid> - 2015-04-18 23:13 +0100
    Re: Keeping 'order' without RTC. John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2015-04-13 20:39 -0500
      Re: Keeping 'order' without RTC. Rob <nomail@example.com> - 2015-04-14 06:46 +0000

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#13769 — Keeping 'order' without RTC.

Fromnot.socialnetwork@gmail.com
Date2015-02-28 12:13 +0000
SubjectKeeping 'order' without RTC.
Message-ID<mcsbdn$uh8$1@dont-email.me>
When you transfer a dir of script/s  & data-files to rPi from your PC,
via USBstik, there's a problem, since the rPi has no RealTimeClock.

So the important abilty to 'evaluate' files by their recentcy is lost.
It's a universal truth that you'll want to get the most-recent
cup-of-coffee and not the 17th most-recent that you put-down.
That's why stacks are used.

What algorithm do you use to solve this problem?

==TIA.

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#13770

FromRobert Heller <heller@deepsoft.com>
Date2015-02-28 06:52 -0600
Message-ID<3cmdnadoAK1oJGzJnZ2dnUU7-W-dnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#13769
At Sat, 28 Feb 2015 12:13:44 +0000 (UTC) not.socialnetwork@gmail.com wrote:

> 
> When you transfer a dir of script/s  & data-files to rPi from your PC,
> via USBstik, there's a problem, since the rPi has no RealTimeClock.
> 
> So the important abilty to 'evaluate' files by their recentcy is lost.
> It's a universal truth that you'll want to get the most-recent
> cup-of-coffee and not the 17th most-recent that you put-down.
> That's why stacks are used.
> 
> What algorithm do you use to solve this problem?

md5sum

> 
> ==TIA.
> 
>               

-- 
Robert Heller             -- 978-544-6933
Deepwoods Software        -- Custom Software Services
http://www.deepsoft.com/  -- Linux Administration Services
heller@deepsoft.com       -- Webhosting Services
                                                                                                    

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#13771

FromRob <nomail@example.com>
Date2015-02-28 13:17 +0000
Message-ID<slrnmf3fv3.s63.nomail@xs8.xs4all.nl>
In reply to#13769
not.socialnetwork@gmail.com <not.socialnetwork@gmail.com> wrote:
> When you transfer a dir of script/s  & data-files to rPi from your PC,
> via USBstik, there's a problem, since the rPi has no RealTimeClock.
>
> So the important abilty to 'evaluate' files by their recentcy is lost.
> It's a universal truth that you'll want to get the most-recent
> cup-of-coffee and not the 17th most-recent that you put-down.
> That's why stacks are used.
>
> What algorithm do you use to solve this problem?

I don't know why you relate that to not having a realtime clock.

First, you can set the time and keep it correct on the Pi using NTP.
Second, you can copy files and retain their original date.

(e.g. using the -p or -a flag of cp)

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#13774

FromRobert Heller <heller@deepsoft.com>
Date2015-02-28 07:59 -0600
Message-ID<lqGdnbxdiLM6VGzJnZ2dnUU7-WednZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#13771
At 28 Feb 2015 13:17:23 GMT Rob <nomail@example.com> wrote:

> 
> not.socialnetwork@gmail.com <not.socialnetwork@gmail.com> wrote:
> > When you transfer a dir of script/s  & data-files to rPi from your PC,
> > via USBstik, there's a problem, since the rPi has no RealTimeClock.
> >
> > So the important abilty to 'evaluate' files by their recentcy is lost.
> > It's a universal truth that you'll want to get the most-recent
> > cup-of-coffee and not the 17th most-recent that you put-down.
> > That's why stacks are used.
> >
> > What algorithm do you use to solve this problem?
> 
> I don't know why you relate that to not having a realtime clock.
> 
> First, you can set the time and keep it correct on the Pi using NTP.
> Second, you can copy files and retain their original date.
> 
> (e.g. using the -p or -a flag of cp)

Or using rsync or using tar.

>                                                                             

-- 
Robert Heller             -- 978-544-6933
Deepwoods Software        -- Custom Software Services
http://www.deepsoft.com/  -- Linux Administration Services
heller@deepsoft.com       -- Webhosting Services
                                                 

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#13783

FromWilliam Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca>
Date2015-02-28 18:28 +0000
Message-ID<mct1cf$je3$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#13771
On 2015-02-28, Rob <nomail@example.com> wrote:
> not.socialnetwork@gmail.com <not.socialnetwork@gmail.com> wrote:
>> When you transfer a dir of script/s  & data-files to rPi from your PC,
>> via USBstik, there's a problem, since the rPi has no RealTimeClock.
>>
>> So the important abilty to 'evaluate' files by their recentcy is lost.
>> It's a universal truth that you'll want to get the most-recent
>> cup-of-coffee and not the 17th most-recent that you put-down.
>> That's why stacks are used.
>>
>> What algorithm do you use to solve this problem?
>
> I don't know why you relate that to not having a realtime clock.

It is the time stamp on the file which tells you what is the most recent
version, is I presume what he means. And it is the RTC which linux uses
to set the current time on bootup. 

>
> First, you can set the time and keep it correct on the Pi using NTP.
> Second, you can copy files and retain their original date.
>
> (e.g. using the -p or -a flag of cp)

Or use rsync. Of course the rPi finding files that are 45 years in the
future, according to the current time on the machine could well confuse
the operating system. 

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#13786

FromRob <nomail@example.com>
Date2015-02-28 19:13 +0000
Message-ID<slrnmf44qd.gvk.nomail@xs8.xs4all.nl>
In reply to#13783
William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> wrote:
> On 2015-02-28, Rob <nomail@example.com> wrote:
>> not.socialnetwork@gmail.com <not.socialnetwork@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> When you transfer a dir of script/s  & data-files to rPi from your PC,
>>> via USBstik, there's a problem, since the rPi has no RealTimeClock.
>>>
>>> So the important abilty to 'evaluate' files by their recentcy is lost.
>>> It's a universal truth that you'll want to get the most-recent
>>> cup-of-coffee and not the 17th most-recent that you put-down.
>>> That's why stacks are used.
>>>
>>> What algorithm do you use to solve this problem?
>>
>> I don't know why you relate that to not having a realtime clock.
>
> It is the time stamp on the file which tells you what is the most recent
> version, is I presume what he means. And it is the RTC which linux uses
> to set the current time on bootup. 

Normally when you copy a directory via USBstick the timestamps will be
transferred with the copy and the local time on the system is not relevant.

>>
>> First, you can set the time and keep it correct on the Pi using NTP.
>> Second, you can copy files and retain their original date.
>>
>> (e.g. using the -p or -a flag of cp)
>
> Or use rsync. Of course the rPi finding files that are 45 years in the
> future, according to the current time on the machine could well confuse
> the operating system. 

No, that does not matter to rsync.  It only compares filetimes, not
the system time.

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#13787

FromWilliam Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca>
Date2015-02-28 19:22 +0000
Message-ID<mct4hf$sc$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#13786
On 2015-02-28, Rob <nomail@example.com> wrote:
> William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> wrote:
>> On 2015-02-28, Rob <nomail@example.com> wrote:
>>> not.socialnetwork@gmail.com <not.socialnetwork@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> When you transfer a dir of script/s  & data-files to rPi from your PC,
>>>> via USBstik, there's a problem, since the rPi has no RealTimeClock.
>>>>
>>>> So the important abilty to 'evaluate' files by their recentcy is lost.
>>>> It's a universal truth that you'll want to get the most-recent
>>>> cup-of-coffee and not the 17th most-recent that you put-down.
>>>> That's why stacks are used.
>>>>
>>>> What algorithm do you use to solve this problem?
>>>
>>> I don't know why you relate that to not having a realtime clock.
>>
>> It is the time stamp on the file which tells you what is the most recent
>> version, is I presume what he means. And it is the RTC which linux uses
>> to set the current time on bootup. 
>
> Normally when you copy a directory via USBstick the timestamps will be
> transferred with the copy and the local time on the system is not relevant.
>
>>>
>>> First, you can set the time and keep it correct on the Pi using NTP.
>>> Second, you can copy files and retain their original date.
>>>
>>> (e.g. using the -p or -a flag of cp)
>>
>> Or use rsync. Of course the rPi finding files that are 45 years in the
>> future, according to the current time on the machine could well confuse
>> the operating system. 
>
> No, that does not matter to rsync.  It only compares filetimes, not
> the system time.

But rsync sets the time and the permissions on the transfered file to be
the same as on the source file. 

It is the operating system (not rsync)  that may have trouble if it finds files 45
years in the future, because it thinks it is still 1970. 

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#13790

FromBaho Utot <baho-utot@columbus.rr.com>
Date2015-02-28 15:48 -0500
Message-ID<76m9sb-8th.ln1@raspberry-pi.bildanet.com>
In reply to#13787
On 02/28/15 14:22, William Unruh wrote:


[putolin]


>
> It is the operating system (not rsync)  that may have trouble if it finds files 45
> years in the future, because it thinks it is still 1970.
>


You mean it's not Jan 01, 1970?   I wonder where have I've been.

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#13794

FromRob <nomail@example.com>
Date2015-02-28 21:14 +0000
Message-ID<slrnmf4btb.s3a.nomail@xs8.xs4all.nl>
In reply to#13787
William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> wrote:
> It is the operating system (not rsync)  that may have trouble if it finds files 45
> years in the future, because it thinks it is still 1970. 

The operating system does not care about that.

The only problem that may occur is that one of those files is modified,
then gets an old modification time, then copied back onto the USBstick
and the user is confused to see such an old file on the stick, or it
may fail to be copied back to the other system when "copy only newer files"
is used as a synchronization method (i.e. not the rsync default)

But those issues can be easily avoided using NTP.  I think the Pi
image comes with ntpd and pool.ntp.org by default, but I always change
that to use my own NTP servers.

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#13797

Frommm0fmf <none@mailinator.com>
Date2015-02-28 22:40 +0000
Message-ID<ttrIw.855734$4b6.21972@fx44.am4>
In reply to#13794
On 28/02/2015 21:14, Rob wrote:
> William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> wrote:
>> It is the operating system (not rsync)  that may have trouble if it finds files 45
>> years in the future, because it thinks it is still 1970.
>
> The operating system does not care about that.
>
> The only problem that may occur is that one of those files is modified,
> then gets an old modification time, then copied back onto the USBstick
> and the user is confused to see such an old file on the stick, or it
> may fail to be copied back to the other system when "copy only newer files"
> is used as a synchronization method (i.e. not the rsync default)
>
> But those issues can be easily avoided using NTP.  I think the Pi
> image comes with ntpd and pool.ntp.org by default, but I always change
> that to use my own NTP servers.
>

The problem with NTP is you need a network connection and our troll 
(remember he's the guy asking the bizarre questions people can't help 
themselves from answering) doesn't have an internet connection. Except 
when he's trolling, then his net connection is real peachy.

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#13798

FromJohn Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com>
Date2015-02-28 18:01 -0600
Message-ID<878ufhlh5j.fsf@thumper.dhh.gt.org>
In reply to#13797
mm0mf writes:
> The problem with NTP is you need a network connection..

He does not need an Internet connection.  The machine he is transferring
files to/from can provide NTP service.
-- 
John Hasler 
jhasler@newsguy.com
Dancing Horse Hill
Elmwood, WI USA

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#13801

FromWilliam Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca>
Date2015-03-01 01:44 +0000
Message-ID<mctqu5$ir4$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#13798
On 2015-03-01, John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> wrote:
> mm0mf writes:
>> The problem with NTP is you need a network connection..
>
> He does not need an Internet connection.  The machine he is transferring
> files to/from can provide NTP service.

I did say network, not internet. And he might be transfering files by
usb stick, not the network.

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#13802

FromRob <nomail@example.com>
Date2015-03-01 07:21 +0000
Message-ID<slrnmf5fes.11k.nomail@xs8.xs4all.nl>
In reply to#13797
mm0fmf <none@mailinator.com> wrote:
> On 28/02/2015 21:14, Rob wrote:
>> William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> wrote:
>>> It is the operating system (not rsync)  that may have trouble if it finds files 45
>>> years in the future, because it thinks it is still 1970.
>>
>> The operating system does not care about that.
>>
>> The only problem that may occur is that one of those files is modified,
>> then gets an old modification time, then copied back onto the USBstick
>> and the user is confused to see such an old file on the stick, or it
>> may fail to be copied back to the other system when "copy only newer files"
>> is used as a synchronization method (i.e. not the rsync default)
>>
>> But those issues can be easily avoided using NTP.  I think the Pi
>> image comes with ntpd and pool.ntp.org by default, but I always change
>> that to use my own NTP servers.
>>
>
> The problem with NTP is you need a network connection and our troll 
> (remember he's the guy asking the bizarre questions people can't help 
> themselves from answering) doesn't have an internet connection. Except 
> when he's trolling, then his net connection is real peachy.

No internet connection is required at all.  Just configure one of the
other systems on the network as an NTP server.

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#13804

Fromcl@isbd.net
Date2015-03-01 09:17 +0000
Message-ID<h12bsb-fa1.ln1@esprimo.zbmc.eu>
In reply to#13802
Rob <nomail@example.com> wrote:
> mm0fmf <none@mailinator.com> wrote:
> > On 28/02/2015 21:14, Rob wrote:
> >> William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> wrote:
> >>> It is the operating system (not rsync)  that may have trouble if it finds files 45
> >>> years in the future, because it thinks it is still 1970.
> >>
> >> The operating system does not care about that.
> >>
> >> The only problem that may occur is that one of those files is modified,
> >> then gets an old modification time, then copied back onto the USBstick
> >> and the user is confused to see such an old file on the stick, or it
> >> may fail to be copied back to the other system when "copy only newer files"
> >> is used as a synchronization method (i.e. not the rsync default)
> >>
> >> But those issues can be easily avoided using NTP.  I think the Pi
> >> image comes with ntpd and pool.ntp.org by default, but I always change
> >> that to use my own NTP servers.
> >>
> >
> > The problem with NTP is you need a network connection and our troll 
> > (remember he's the guy asking the bizarre questions people can't help 
> > themselves from answering) doesn't have an internet connection. Except 
> > when he's trolling, then his net connection is real peachy.
> 
> No internet connection is required at all.  Just configure one of the
> other systems on the network as an NTP server.

It has to know the right time somehow though, by using NTP? :-)

-- 
Chris Green
ยท

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#13806

Fromalister <alister.nospam.ware@ntlworld.com>
Date2015-03-01 10:08 +0000
Message-ID<mcuofq$b0h$1@speranza.aioe.org>
In reply to#13804
On Sun, 01 Mar 2015 09:17:05 +0000, cl wrote:

> Rob <nomail@example.com> wrote:
>> mm0fmf <none@mailinator.com> wrote:
>> > On 28/02/2015 21:14, Rob wrote:
>> >> William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> wrote:
>> >>> It is the operating system (not rsync)  that may have trouble if it
>> >>> finds files 45 years in the future, because it thinks it is still
>> >>> 1970.
>> >>
>> >> The operating system does not care about that.
>> >>
>> >> The only problem that may occur is that one of those files is
>> >> modified, then gets an old modification time, then copied back onto
>> >> the USBstick and the user is confused to see such an old file on the
>> >> stick, or it may fail to be copied back to the other system when
>> >> "copy only newer files"
>> >> is used as a synchronization method (i.e. not the rsync default)
>> >>
>> >> But those issues can be easily avoided using NTP.  I think the Pi
>> >> image comes with ntpd and pool.ntp.org by default, but I always
>> >> change that to use my own NTP servers.
>> >>
>> >>
>> > The problem with NTP is you need a network connection and our troll
>> > (remember he's the guy asking the bizarre questions people can't help
>> > themselves from answering) doesn't have an internet connection.
>> > Except when he's trolling, then his net connection is real peachy.
>> 
>> No internet connection is required at all.  Just configure one of the
>> other systems on the network as an NTP server.
> 
> It has to know the right time somehow though, by using NTP? :-)

forget NTP how about just stetting the damn time manually from the 
command line before starting, or am I missing something obvious here.
 



-- 
Love -- the last of the serious diseases of childhood.

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#13809

FromMartin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid>
Date2015-03-01 11:29 +0000
Message-ID<mcut7d$e9t$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#13806
On Sun, 01 Mar 2015 10:08:58 +0000, alister wrote:

> 
> forget NTP how about just stetting the damn time manually from the
> command line before starting, or am I missing something obvious here.
>
No, you're not missing anything.

My RPi is always run headless over SSH, so installing and configuring 
ntpd was an obvious no-brainer and one of the first things I did when it 
arrived.

However, if you only have an A or for some reason don't want to or can't 
be bothered to put your B/B+/2B on a LAN, then its back to the good old 
days of 8 bit systems and getting a date prompt each time you boot up. It 
should be simple enough to configure your RPi and/or write a short script 
to prompt for the date.

If you don't want to be bothered even with that, just set up a link to 
your version control system from your RPi. Not got a version control 
system already? Then you're scarcely a serious programmer yet, are you?


-- 
martin@   | Martin Gregorie
gregorie. | Essex, UK
org       |

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#13822

FromWilliam Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca>
Date2015-03-01 17:18 +0000
Message-ID<mcvhkd$1gs$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#13809
On 2015-03-01, Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> wrote:
> On Sun, 01 Mar 2015 10:08:58 +0000, alister wrote:
>
>> 
>> forget NTP how about just stetting the damn time manually from the
>> command line before starting, or am I missing something obvious here.
>>
> No, you're not missing anything.
>
> My RPi is always run headless over SSH, so installing and configuring 
> ntpd was an obvious no-brainer and one of the first things I did when it 
> arrived.
>
> However, if you only have an A or for some reason don't want to or can't 
> be bothered to put your B/B+/2B on a LAN, then its back to the good old 
> days of 8 bit systems and getting a date prompt each time you boot up. It 
> should be simple enough to configure your RPi and/or write a short script 
> to prompt for the date.

You could also have ntpd look at the files (eg assuming you run syslogd
or rsyslogd, the files in /var/log) and take the last time on one of
those files as the current time. In general you will tnen be out minutes
or hours, rather than decades. 

>
> If you don't want to be bothered even with that, just set up a link to 

Link? Do you mean network connection (which you just said did not exist)? Or what is this link?

> your version control system from your RPi. Not got a version control 
> system already? Then you're scarcely a serious programmer yet, are you?

"If you do not think or act like me, you are not worth even talking to"
Sheesh.
>
>

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#13824

FromMartin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid>
Date2015-03-01 18:33 +0000
Message-ID<mcvm2l$i52$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#13822
On Sun, 01 Mar 2015 17:18:05 +0000, William Unruh wrote:

> Link? Do you mean network connection (which you just said did not
> exist)? Or what is this link?
>
My mistake: forgot I was addressing a stand-alone, non-networked RPi.

But still, if the OP doesn't want to edit version ids in the file name 
then setting up a local VCS is the obvious way to maintain sequential 
control of changes to a file on any machine without a clock.

>> your version control system from your RPi. Not got a version control
>> system already? Then you're scarcely a serious programmer yet, are you?
> 
> "If you do not think or act like me, you are not worth even talking to"
> Sheesh.
>
..only because I have a feeling that the OP is one of the resident 
trolls. If he isn't, I apologise. 

However, as version control systems have been around for over 25 years 
now and they are a near-perfect get-out-of-jail-free card if you screw an 
edit while having a bad day, I do expect a competent programmer to be as 
familiar with VCS systems about as much as I expect a C programmer to be 
familiar with Make or his local equivalent.


-- 
martin@   | Martin Gregorie
gregorie. | Essex, UK
org       |

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#13839

FromUnknown <dog@gmail.com>
Date2015-03-02 09:06 +0000
Message-ID<pan.2015.03.02.09.17.01@gmail.com>
In reply to#13809
On Sun, 01 Mar 2015 11:29:49 +0000, Martin Gregorie wrote:

> On Sun, 01 Mar 2015 10:08:58 +0000, alister wrote:
> 
> 
>> forget NTP how about just stetting the damn time manually from the
>> command line before starting, or am I missing something obvious here.
>>
> No, you're not missing anything.
> 
> My RPi is always run headless over SSH, so installing and configuring
> ntpd was an obvious no-brainer and one of the first things I did when it
> arrived.
> 
> However, if you only have an A or for some reason don't want to or can't
> be bothered to put your B/B+/2B on a LAN, then its back to the good old
> days of 8 bit systems and getting a date prompt each time you boot up.
> It should be simple enough to configure your RPi and/or write a short
> script to prompt for the date.
> 
> If you don't want to be bothered even with that, just set up a link to
> your version control system from your RPi. Not got a version control
> system already? Then you're scarcely a serious programmer yet, are you?

Files are transfered to OP's rPi on a USBstik, before that is carried to
a location which has no electricity-supply. It's in a shoe-box with a 6V
accumulator. For TextToSpeech; no display; only control is on/off switch.

Setting the date at each boot, on a device which HAS a keybrd+display 
is lame - too.

This problem is for inventive minds, not a hi-tech solution via your
credit-card-at-wallmart.

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#13840

Fromalister <alister.nospam.ware@ntlworld.com>
Date2015-03-02 09:19 +0000
Message-ID<md19v0$jhm$1@speranza.aioe.org>
In reply to#13839
On Mon, 02 Mar 2015 09:06:33 +0000, Unknown wrote:

> 
> Files are transfered to OP's rPi on a USBstik, before that is carried to
> a location which has no electricity-supply. It's in a shoe-box with a 6V
> accumulator. For TextToSpeech; no display; only control is on/off
> switch.
> 
> Setting the date at each boot, on a device which HAS a keybrd+display is
> lame - too.
> 
> This problem is for inventive minds, not a hi-tech solution via your
> credit-card-at-wallmart.
& how does the OP get then from the stick to the PI?
is there some kind of automated script in lace or does he have to issue a 
copy command?

The solution from the inventive minds is already available
there are a number of very small, very cheep RTC add on boards for the PI

Therefore the options are simple & in order of preference.

1) but a clock module
2) if manual sync then set the time manually before performing the sync.
3) if an auto script modify the auto sync script to set the time to that 
of the newest file on the stick, or that of the destination directory 
(whichever is the later) before performing the sync. the time will be 
wrong but usable wrt the time stamps of the files.





-- 
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