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Austria's AF To Switch To LibreOffice

Started byFarley Flud <ff@linux.rocks>
First post2025-09-19 18:56 +0000
Last post2025-09-23 23:41 +0100
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  Austria's AF To Switch To LibreOffice Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> - 2025-09-19 18:56 +0000
    Re: Austria's AF To Switch To LibreOffice Jason H <jason_hindle@yahoo.com> - 2025-09-20 19:09 +0000
      Re: Austria's AF To Switch To LibreOffice Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> - 2025-09-20 19:55 +0000
        Re: Austria's AF To Switch To LibreOffice Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> - 2025-09-20 20:53 +0000
          Re: Austria's AF To Switch To LibreOffice Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-21 13:00 +0100
            Re: Austria's AF To Switch To LibreOffice The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-21 13:56 +0100
              Re: Austria's AF To Switch To LibreOffice Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-21 17:29 +0100
                Re: Austria's AF To Switch To LibreOffice Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-21 18:34 +0100
                Re: Austria's AF To Switch To LibreOffice The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-21 19:01 +0100
                Re: Austria's AF To Switch To LibreOffice The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-21 19:04 +0100
        Re: Austria's AF To Switch To LibreOffice Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-09-21 20:10 +0000
          Re: Austria's AF To Switch To LibreOffice John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-09-22 10:06 -0700
            Re: Austria's AF To Switch To LibreOffice Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-22 17:26 +0000
              Re: Austria's AF To Switch To LibreOffice Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-09-22 10:30 -0700
              Re: Austria's AF To Switch To LibreOffice The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-23 12:30 +0100
    Re: Austria's AF To Switch To LibreOffice Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2025-09-22 07:10 +0200
      Re: Austria's AF To Switch To LibreOffice Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-09-22 07:34 +0000
        Re: Austria's AF To Switch To LibreOffice Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2025-09-23 09:26 +0200
          Re: Austria's AF To Switch To LibreOffice Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-09-23 07:36 +0000
            Re: Austria's AF To Switch To LibreOffice Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-23 10:57 +0100
    Re: Austria's AF To Switch To LibreOffice 🇵🇱Jacek Marcin Jaworski🇵🇱 <jaworski1978@adres.pl> - 2025-09-22 07:44 +0200
      Re: Austria's AF To Switch To LibreOffice "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-22 11:58 +0200
        Re: Austria's AF To Switch To LibreOffice 🇵🇱Jacek Marcin Jaworski🇵🇱 <jaworski1978@adres.pl> - 2025-09-23 18:44 +0200
          Re: Austria's AF To Switch To LibreOffice "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-23 22:04 +0200
            Re: Austria's AF To Switch To LibreOffice 🇵🇱Jacek Marcin Jaworski🇵🇱 <jaworski1978@adres.pl> - 2025-09-23 23:52 +0200
              Re: Austria's AF To Switch To LibreOffice Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-09-27 14:56 +0000
          Re: Austria's AF To Switch To LibreOffice Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-23 23:41 +0100

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#74806

From🇵🇱Jacek Marcin Jaworski🇵🇱 <jaworski1978@adres.pl>
Date2025-09-22 07:44 +0200
Message-ID<mjc617FlponU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#74574
I have questions to Farley Flud:

1. Why don't you cross-post?
2. Did you know that is against Usenet netiquette, and is consider as spam?

What I mean is described here:

<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crossposting>

What I mean is: You publish the same post (under title "Austria's AF To 
Switch To LibreOffice") on the Usenet groups: comp.os.linux.advocacy and 
comp.os.linux.misc, while your Usenet server provider allow set 11 
groups (or more) in cross-post.

So: Please read netiquette. And please to use cross-post. And please set 
"Followup-To:" field in your post (when you cross-post).

-- 
Jacek Marcin Jaworski,         Pruszcz Gd., woj. Pomorskie, PL🇵🇱, EU🇪🇺;
tel.: +48-609-170-742,    najlepiej w godz.: 5:00-5:55 lub 16:00-16:55;
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#74819

From"Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid>
Date2025-09-22 11:58 +0200
Message-ID<q6j7qlxmmr.ln2@Telcontar.valinor>
In reply to#74806
On 2025-09-22 07:44, 🇵🇱Jacek Marcin Jaworski🇵🇱 wrote:
> I have questions to Farley Flud:
> 
> 1. Why don't you cross-post?
> 2. Did you know that is against Usenet netiquette, and is consider as spam?
> 
> What I mean is described here:
> 
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crossposting>
> 
> What I mean is: You publish the same post (under title "Austria's AF To 
> Switch To LibreOffice") on the Usenet groups: comp.os.linux.advocacy and 
> comp.os.linux.misc, while your Usenet server provider allow set 11 
> groups (or more) in cross-post.
> 
> So: Please read netiquette. And please to use cross-post. And please set 
> "Followup-To:" field in your post (when you cross-post).
> 

No. Don't use Followup-To.

Some people do that, and some of us we have to disobey the follow up, 
because we don't subscribe to that group and will thus not see the replies.

-- 
Cheers, Carlos.
ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;

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#74985

From🇵🇱Jacek Marcin Jaworski🇵🇱 <jaworski1978@adres.pl>
Date2025-09-23 18:44 +0200
Message-ID<mjg12rFb9c8U1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#74819
W dniu 22.09.2025 o 11:58, Carlos E.R. pisze:
> On 2025-09-22 07:44, 🇵🇱Jacek Marcin Jaworski🇵🇱 wrote:
>> I have questions to Farley Flud:
>>
>> 1. Why don't you cross-post?
>> 2. Did you know that is against Usenet netiquette, and is consider as 
>> spam?
>>
>> What I mean is described here:
>>
>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crossposting>
>>
>> What I mean is: You publish the same post (under title "Austria's AF 
>> To Switch To LibreOffice") on the Usenet groups: 
>> comp.os.linux.advocacy and comp.os.linux.misc, while your Usenet 
>> server provider allow set 11 groups (or more) in cross-post.
>>
>> So: Please read netiquette. And please to use cross-post. And please 
>> set "Followup-To:" field in your post (when you cross-post).
>>
> 
> No. Don't use Followup-To.
> 
> Some people do that, and some of us we have to disobey the follow up, 
> because we don't subscribe to that group and will thus not see the replies.

What is your problem: any Usenet user can subscribe any group for free 
(as free beer). Is this this true in Spain or not?!? Tell us the truth: 
What is wrong with you?!?

-- 
Jacek Marcin Jaworski,         Pruszcz Gd., woj. Pomorskie, PL🇵🇱, EU🇪🇺;
tel.: +48-609-170-742,    najlepiej w godz.: 5:00-5:55 lub 16:00-16:55;
<jaworski1978@adres.pl>, gpg: EBFD1A464130993FBBC230FE221740E87CE10580;
Domowa s. WWW (WYSZUKIWARKI JĄ POMIJAJĄ!!!):    <https://energokod.pl>;
Mini Netykieta:              <https://energokod.pl/MiniNetykieta.html>;
Mailowa Samoobrona:              <https://emailselfdefense.fsf.org/pl>.

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#75006

From"Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid>
Date2025-09-23 22:04 +0200
Message-ID<m2bbqlx4mu.ln2@Telcontar.valinor>
In reply to#74985
On 2025-09-23 18:44, 🇵🇱Jacek Marcin Jaworski🇵🇱 wrote:
> W dniu 22.09.2025 o 11:58, Carlos E.R. pisze:
>> On 2025-09-22 07:44, 🇵🇱Jacek Marcin Jaworski🇵🇱 wrote:
>>> I have questions to Farley Flud:
>>>
>>> 1. Why don't you cross-post?
>>> 2. Did you know that is against Usenet netiquette, and is consider as 
>>> spam?
>>>
>>> What I mean is described here:
>>>
>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crossposting>
>>>
>>> What I mean is: You publish the same post (under title "Austria's AF 
>>> To Switch To LibreOffice") on the Usenet groups: 
>>> comp.os.linux.advocacy and comp.os.linux.misc, while your Usenet 
>>> server provider allow set 11 groups (or more) in cross-post.
>>>
>>> So: Please read netiquette. And please to use cross-post. And please 
>>> set "Followup-To:" field in your post (when you cross-post).
>>>
>>
>> No. Don't use Followup-To.
>>
>> Some people do that, and some of us we have to disobey the follow up, 
>> because we don't subscribe to that group and will thus not see the 
>> replies.
> 
> What is your problem: any Usenet user can subscribe any group for free 
> (as free beer). Is this this true in Spain or not?!? Tell us the truth: 
> What is wrong with you?!?

What is wrong with you? Of course nobody subscribes to every channel. 
Not even if there is a followup header. And specifically if it is an 
advocacy group.


-- 
Cheers, Carlos.
ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;

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#75029

From🇵🇱Jacek Marcin Jaworski🇵🇱 <jaworski1978@adres.pl>
Date2025-09-23 23:52 +0200
Message-ID<mjgj4eFdv31U1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#75006
W dniu 23.09.2025 o 22:04, Carlos E.R. pisze:
> On 2025-09-23 18:44, 🇵🇱Jacek Marcin Jaworski🇵🇱 wrote:
>> W dniu 22.09.2025 o 11:58, Carlos E.R. pisze:
>>> On 2025-09-22 07:44, 🇵🇱Jacek Marcin Jaworski🇵🇱 wrote:
>>>> I have questions to Farley Flud:
>>>>
>>>> 1. Why don't you cross-post?
>>>> 2. Did you know that is against Usenet netiquette, and is consider 
>>>> as spam?
>>>>
>>>> What I mean is described here:
>>>>
>>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crossposting>
>>>>
>>>> What I mean is: You publish the same post (under title "Austria's AF 
>>>> To Switch To LibreOffice") on the Usenet groups: 
>>>> comp.os.linux.advocacy and comp.os.linux.misc, while your Usenet 
>>>> server provider allow set 11 groups (or more) in cross-post.
>>>>
>>>> So: Please read netiquette. And please to use cross-post. And please 
>>>> set "Followup-To:" field in your post (when you cross-post).
>>>>
>>>
>>> No. Don't use Followup-To.
>>>
>>> Some people do that, and some of us we have to disobey the follow up, 
>>> because we don't subscribe to that group and will thus not see the 
>>> replies.
>>
>> What is your problem: any Usenet user can subscribe any group for free 
>> (as free beer). Is this this true in Spain or not?!? Tell us the 
>> truth: What is wrong with you?!?
> 
> What is wrong with you? Of course nobody subscribes to every channel. 
> Not even if there is a followup header. And specifically if it is an 
> advocacy group.

Then it is not netiquette flaw, but your private mental problem. This 
discussion is stupid as hell! I clearly wrote, that I expected Farley 
Flud answers not yours!

-- 
Jacek Marcin Jaworski,         Pruszcz Gd., woj. Pomorskie, PL🇵🇱, EU🇪🇺;
tel.: +48-609-170-742,    najlepiej w godz.: 5:00-5:55 lub 16:00-16:55;
<jaworski1978@adres.pl>, gpg: EBFD1A464130993FBBC230FE221740E87CE10580;
Domowa s. WWW (WYSZUKIWARKI JĄ POMIJAJĄ!!!):    <https://energokod.pl>;
Mini Netykieta:              <https://energokod.pl/MiniNetykieta.html>;
Mailowa Samoobrona:              <https://emailselfdefense.fsf.org/pl>.

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#75309

FromStéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr>
Date2025-09-27 14:56 +0000
Message-ID<68d7fb37$0$16823$426a34cc@news.free.fr>
In reply to#75029
Le 23-09-2025, 🇵🇱Jacek Marcin Jaworski🇵🇱 <jaworski1978@adres.pl> a écrit :
> W dniu 23.09.2025 o 22:04, Carlos E.R. pisze:
>> On 2025-09-23 18:44, 🇵🇱Jacek Marcin Jaworski🇵🇱 wrote:
>>> W dniu 22.09.2025 o 11:58, Carlos E.R. pisze:
>>>> On 2025-09-22 07:44, 🇵🇱Jacek Marcin Jaworski🇵🇱 wrote:
>>>>> I have questions to Farley Flud:
>>>>>
>>>>> 1. Why don't you cross-post?
>>>>> 2. Did you know that is against Usenet netiquette, and is consider 
>>>>> as spam?
>>>>>
>>>>> What I mean is described here:
>>>>>
>>>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crossposting>
>>>>>
>>>>> What I mean is: You publish the same post (under title "Austria's AF 
>>>>> To Switch To LibreOffice") on the Usenet groups: 
>>>>> comp.os.linux.advocacy and comp.os.linux.misc, while your Usenet 
>>>>> server provider allow set 11 groups (or more) in cross-post.
>>>>>
>>>>> So: Please read netiquette. And please to use cross-post. And please 
>>>>> set "Followup-To:" field in your post (when you cross-post).
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> No. Don't use Followup-To.
>>>>
>>>> Some people do that, and some of us we have to disobey the follow up, 
>>>> because we don't subscribe to that group and will thus not see the 
>>>> replies.

I can reply to messages posted on cola and colm, but some newsgroup
aren't available from my provider. So, sometimes, the follow-up is a
technical requirement for me to answer a message.

>>> What is your problem: any Usenet user can subscribe any group for free 
>>> (as free beer). Is this this true in Spain or not?!? Tell us the 
>>> truth: What is wrong with you?!?

Subscribing to a group just to find a message can be difficult. Some
groups aren't empty and if you subscribe to every group in case there is
an answer, it will require a lot of time to figure it out.

>> What is wrong with you? Of course nobody subscribes to every channel. 
>> Not even if there is a followup header. And specifically if it is an 
>> advocacy group.
>
> Then it is not netiquette flaw, but your private mental problem. This 
> discussion is stupid as hell! I clearly wrote, that I expected Farley 
> Flud answers not yours!

For the other messages there isn't simple answers. Of course there is the
netiquette, but the real life make things more difficult.

But on this part you are plain wrong. When you are sending a message
here you are not speaking to only one guy, you are speaking to everyone
following the group. So, anyone here is able to answer.

I know: FF/LP/DG/FR/whatever is to ashamed to put a real mail in his
headers but it doesn't mean Usenet is starting to be a private way to
speak to someone else.

-- 
Si vous avez du temps à perdre :
https://scarpet42.gitlab.io

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#75035

FromNuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid>
Date2025-09-23 23:41 +0100
Message-ID<10av7n6$39goi$3@dont-email.me>
In reply to#74985
On 2025-09-23, 🇵🇱Jacek Marcin Jaworski🇵🇱 wrote:

> W dniu 22.09.2025 o 11:58, Carlos E.R. pisze:
>> On 2025-09-22 07:44, 🇵🇱Jacek Marcin Jaworski🇵🇱 wrote:
>>> I have questions to Farley Flud:
>>>
>>> 1. Why don't you cross-post?
>>> 2. Did you know that is against Usenet netiquette, and is consider
>>> as spam?
>>>
>>> What I mean is described here:
>>>
>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crossposting>
>>>
>>> What I mean is: You publish the same post (under title "Austria's
>>> AF To Switch To LibreOffice") on the Usenet groups:
>>> comp.os.linux.advocacy and comp.os.linux.misc, while your Usenet
>>> server provider allow set 11 groups (or more) in cross-post.
>>>
>>> So: Please read netiquette. And please to use cross-post. And
>>> please set "Followup-To:" field in your post (when you cross-post).
>>>
>>
>> No. Don't use Followup-To.
>>
>> Some people do that, and some of us we have to disobey the follow
>> up, because we don't subscribe to that group and will thus not see
>> the replies.
>
> What is your problem: any Usenet user can subscribe any group for free
> (as free beer).

Yes, and? If a conversation is on-topic in two groups, I'd say there
really isn't much reason not to cross-post.

Although what was going on here recently was mostly off-topic posts in
crossposted (sub)threads, it's still the case that some people might be
following this on only one of the groups.

Netnews comes with the required metadata so that crossposts can be
marked read in more than one group at once at the client side, even
though some clients don't have this implemented yet.

> Is this this true in Spain or not?!? Tell us the
> truth: What is wrong with you?!?

...

-- 
Nuno Silva

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