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Why would you upgrade...

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First post2014-09-23 02:57 +0000
Last post2014-09-24 13:33 -0700
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  Why would you upgrade... not.socialnetwork@gmail.com - 2014-09-23 02:57 +0000
    Re: Why would you upgrade... ebenZEROONE@verizon.net (Hactar) - 2014-09-23 03:36 -0400
      Re: Why would you upgrade... Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2014-09-23 07:40 -0700
    Re: Why would you upgrade... MarkA <someone@somewhere.invalid> - 2014-09-24 17:30 +0000
    Re: Why would you upgrade... Jens Stuckelberger <Jens_Stuckelberger@nowhere.net> - 2014-09-24 18:57 +0000
      Re: Why would you upgrade... Aragorn <thorongil@telenet.be.invalid> - 2014-09-24 21:17 +0200
        Re: Why would you upgrade... Unknown <dog@gmail.com> - 2014-10-01 11:51 +0000
          Re: Why would you upgrade... Michael Baeuerle <michael.baeuerle@stz-e.de> - 2014-10-01 12:12 +0000
      Re: Why would you upgrade... Keith Keller <kkeller-usenet@wombat.san-francisco.ca.us> - 2014-09-24 13:33 -0700

#12146 — Why would you upgrade...

Fromnot.socialnetwork@gmail.com
Date2014-09-23 02:57 +0000
SubjectWhy would you upgrade...
Message-ID<lvqnid$r00$1@dont-email.me>
and punish yourself, with futile re-re-re-learning?

My mate's Win*** has got a nice manageble speed mouse;
altho' he only needs it to point at cartoons.

I need to discriminate the colon in "x:y" in proportional font!

So it took me an hour to track down HOW2 slow-down gpm.

But then there's X.
So I dug-out the BIG-file that I'd started last year: SlowMouse

`pstree` shows you <which processes you're using for X>
For me its: ---startx(3705)---xinit(3721)-+-X(3722)
                       `-blackbox(3727)
...which after a looong journey leads to /etc/X11/xorg.conf
and `man xorg.conf`

My /etc/X11/xorg.conf has got
Option	    "ZAxisMapping" "4 5 6 7"
 but man xorg.conf has no mention of ZAxis

Imagine, every time you 'upgrade' you must suffer this punishment.

Little wonder that people just use M$loth & KFC?

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#12149

FromebenZEROONE@verizon.net (Hactar)
Date2014-09-23 03:36 -0400
Message-ID<rgk7fb-etg.ln1@pc.home>
In reply to#12146
In article <lvqnid$r00$1@dont-email.me>,  <not.socialnetwork@gmail.com> wrote:
> and punish yourself, with futile re-re-re-learning?
> 
> My mate's Win*** has got a nice manageble speed mouse;
> altho' he only needs it to point at cartoons.
> 
> I need to discriminate the colon in "x:y" in proportional font!
> 
> So it took me an hour to track down HOW2 slow-down gpm.
> 
> But then there's X.
> So I dug-out the BIG-file that I'd started last year: SlowMouse
> 
> `pstree` shows you <which processes you're using for X>
> For me its: ---startx(3705)---xinit(3721)-+-X(3722)
>                        `-blackbox(3727)
> ...which after a looong journey leads to /etc/X11/xorg.conf
> and `man xorg.conf`
> 
> My /etc/X11/xorg.conf has got
> Option	    "ZAxisMapping" "4 5 6 7"
>  but man xorg.conf has no mention of ZAxis

GIYF: searching for |zaxismapping| gives "About 143,000 results (0.23 seconds)"

The answer is out there.

> Imagine, every time you 'upgrade' you must suffer this punishment.
> 
> Little wonder that people just use M$loth & KFC?

Because they're lazy and don't know how to use Google?

-- 
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much more talented than you.  Laughter is the very best medicine,
remember that when your appendix bursts next week.  -- Weird Al

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#12153

FromBobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com>
Date2014-09-23 07:40 -0700
Message-ID<lvs0p3$opf$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#12149
On 09/23/2014 12:36 AM, Hactar wrote:
> In article <lvqnid$r00$1@dont-email.me>,  <not.socialnetwork@gmail.com> wrote:
>> and punish yourself, with futile re-re-re-learning?
>>
>> My mate's Win*** has got a nice manageble speed mouse;
>> altho' he only needs it to point at cartoons.
>>
>> I need to discriminate the colon in "x:y" in proportional font!
>>
>> So it took me an hour to track down HOW2 slow-down gpm.
>>
>> But then there's X.
>> So I dug-out the BIG-file that I'd started last year: SlowMouse
>>
>> `pstree` shows you <which processes you're using for X>
>> For me its: ---startx(3705)---xinit(3721)-+-X(3722)
>>                         `-blackbox(3727)
>> ...which after a looong journey leads to /etc/X11/xorg.conf
>> and `man xorg.conf`
>>
>> My /etc/X11/xorg.conf has got
>> Option	    "ZAxisMapping" "4 5 6 7"
>>   but man xorg.conf has no mention of ZAxis
>
> GIYF: searching for |zaxismapping| gives "About 143,000 results (0.23 seconds)"
>
> The answer is out there.
>
>> Imagine, every time you 'upgrade' you must suffer this punishment.
>>
>> Little wonder that people just use M$loth & KFC?
>
> Because they're lazy and don't know how to use Google?
>

	Lazy maybe not.  But poor language skills can
lead to hesitance in using Google along with arcane
computer jargon in which relatively few are conversant.

	They have no problems with finding cute pictures of
kitty-cats but "cat" confuses them no end.

	bliss

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#12158

FromMarkA <someone@somewhere.invalid>
Date2014-09-24 17:30 +0000
Message-ID<lvuv3231gni@news6.newsguy.com>
In reply to#12146
On Tue, 23 Sep 2014 02:57:18 +0000, not.socialnetwork wrote:

> and punish yourself, with futile re-re-re-learning?
> 
> My mate's Win*** has got a nice manageble speed mouse;
> altho' he only needs it to point at cartoons.
> 
> I need to discriminate the colon in "x:y" in proportional font!
> 
> So it took me an hour to track down HOW2 slow-down gpm.
> 
> But then there's X.
> So I dug-out the BIG-file that I'd started last year: SlowMouse
> 
> `pstree` shows you <which processes you're using for X>
> For me its: ---startx(3705)---xinit(3721)-+-X(3722)
>                        `-blackbox(3727)
> ...which after a looong journey leads to /etc/X11/xorg.conf and `man
> xorg.conf`
> 
> My /etc/X11/xorg.conf has got Option	    "ZAxisMapping" "4 5 6 7"
>  but man xorg.conf has no mention of ZAxis
> 
> Imagine, every time you 'upgrade' you must suffer this punishment.

I upgrade my system all the time, and I have no idea what problem you are 
trying to describe.

> 
> Little wonder that people just use M$loth & KFC?

Linux is much easier to use than it ever was, but it still isn't for 
everyone, and probably never will be.  Which is a good thing.

-- 
MarkA
(Signature back, despite lack of popular demand)

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#12159

FromJens Stuckelberger <Jens_Stuckelberger@nowhere.net>
Date2014-09-24 18:57 +0000
Message-ID<lvv46e$401$1@news.albasani.net>
In reply to#12146
On Tue, 23 Sep 2014 02:57:18 +0000, not.socialnetwork wrote:

> [Nothing interesting.]

	You really have to work at improving your trolling. Your current 
effort is kind of pathetic. Surely you can do much better than that?

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#12160

FromAragorn <thorongil@telenet.be.invalid>
Date2014-09-24 21:17 +0200
Message-ID<lvv5cs$j1b$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#12159
On Wednesday 24 September 2014 20:57, Jens Stuckelberger conveyed the 
following to comp.os.linux.misc...

> On Tue, 23 Sep 2014 02:57:18 +0000, not.socialnetwork wrote:
> 
>> [Nothing interesting.]
> 
> You really have to work at improving your trolling. Your current
> effort is kind of pathetic. Surely you can do much better than that?

I agree, the quality of trolling sure has deteriorated ever since 
Microsoft decided to outsource that to independent contractors.  Trolls 
were much more humorous when Microsoft were still sending out their own 
employees into newsgroups dedicated to what they perceived as "competing 
platforms".

-- 
= Aragorn =

         http://www.linuxcounter.net - registrant #223157

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#12192

FromUnknown <dog@gmail.com>
Date2014-10-01 11:51 +0000
Message-ID<pan.2014.10.01.11.58.08@gmail.com>
In reply to#12160
On Wed, 24 Sep 2014 21:17:48 +0200, Aragorn wrote:

> On Wednesday 24 September 2014 20:57, Jens Stuckelberger conveyed the
> following to comp.os.linux.misc...
> 
>> On Tue, 23 Sep 2014 02:57:18 +0000, not.socialnetwork wrote:
>> 
>>> [Nothing interesting.]
>> 
>> You really have to work at improving your trolling. Your current effort
>> is kind of pathetic. Surely you can do much better than that?
> 
> I agree, the quality of trolling sure has deteriorated ever since
> Microsoft decided to outsource that to independent contractors.  Trolls
> were much more humorous when Microsoft were still sending out their own
> employees into newsgroups dedicated to what they perceived as "competing
> platforms".

If we could keep-out the F/B,twitter kiddies', football tribalism
resistance to self criticism, we'd better be able to fix many of
linux's flaws; which would make the following more obviously absurd:--
]====
]      * If you have an Apple Mac or Linux computer - please note that
]        you can only use it for this course by running Windows on it
]        using Boot Camp or a similar dual-boot system.
]
]    You can also visit the Technical requirements section for further
]    computing information including the details of the support we
]    provide.

Whereas free/enterprise/choice is good; the ever increasing forking
of linux, doesn't help us advance linux.

Indeed the football-tribalism BETWEEN different distributions is
harmfull to us too.

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#12193

FromMichael Baeuerle <michael.baeuerle@stz-e.de>
Date2014-10-01 12:12 +0000
Message-ID<AABUK+/LE6YAAAnT.A1.flnews@WStation2.stz-e.de>
In reply to#12192
Unknown wrote:
> 
> Whereas free/enterprise/choice is good; the ever increasing forking
> of linux, doesn't help us advance linux.

... but to keep it what it is - not something like Windows.
 
> Indeed the football-tribalism BETWEEN different distributions is
> harmfull to us too.

I don't think so. Look at the RedHat/systemd thing:
If you think this approuch to the end you get a copy of the Microsoft
world.

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#12161

FromKeith Keller <kkeller-usenet@wombat.san-francisco.ca.us>
Date2014-09-24 13:33 -0700
Message-ID<5embfbxodi.ln2@goaway.wombat.san-francisco.ca.us>
In reply to#12159
["Followup-To:" header set to alt.os.linux.slackware.]

On 2014-09-24, Jens Stuckelberger <Jens_Stuckelberger@nowhere.net> wrote:
> On Tue, 23 Sep 2014 02:57:18 +0000, not.socialnetwork wrote:
>
>> [Nothing interesting.]
>
> 	You really have to work at improving your trolling. Your current 
> effort is kind of pathetic. Surely you can do much better than that?

Clearly his trolling is excellent, since so many people have responded
to him.

--keith

-- 
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