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  Ok, Did Sign Up For Starlink - Let's See c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-10-14 04:15 -0400
    Re: Ok, Did Sign Up For Starlink - Let's See Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> - 2026-10-14 07:06 -0700
      Re: Ok, Did Sign Up For Starlink - Let's See rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-14 19:23 +0000
        Re: Ok, Did Sign Up For Starlink - Let's See The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-15 10:02 +0100
          Re: Ok, Did Sign Up For Starlink - Let's See Pancho <Pancho.Jones@protonmail.com> - 2026-10-15 11:18 +0100
            Re: Ok, Did Sign Up For Starlink - Let's See The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-15 12:53 +0100
              Re: Ok, Did Sign Up For Starlink - Let's See "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-15 15:14 +0200
                Re: Ok, Did Sign Up For Starlink - Let's See The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-15 14:39 +0100
                Re: Ok, Did Sign Up For Starlink - Let's See c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-10-16 01:06 -0400
                  Re: Ok, Did Sign Up For Starlink - Let's See c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-10-16 04:55 -0400
                    Re: Ok, Did Sign Up For Starlink - Let's See Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> - 2026-10-16 05:17 -0700
                      Re: Ok, Did Sign Up For Starlink - Let's See The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-16 15:36 +0100
                  Re: Ok, Did Sign Up For Starlink - Let's See Fritz Wuehler <fritz@spamexpire-202610.rodent.frell.theremailer.net> - 2026-10-17 04:27 +0200
                    Re: Ok, Did Sign Up For Starlink - Let's See rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-17 03:32 +0000
                      Re: Ok, Did Sign Up For Starlink - Let's See "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-17 12:46 +0200
                        Re: Ok, Did Sign Up For Starlink - Let's See rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-17 19:26 +0000
                          Re: Ok, Did Sign Up For Starlink - Let's See "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-17 22:06 +0200
                            Re: Ok, Did Sign Up For Starlink - Let's See c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-10-18 04:29 -0400
                              Re: Ok, Did Sign Up For Starlink - Let's See "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-18 14:17 +0200
                          Re: Ok, Did Sign Up For Starlink - Let's See The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-18 11:26 +0100
                    Re: Ok, Did Sign Up For Starlink - Let's See c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-10-17 01:47 -0400
                      Re: Ok, Did Sign Up For Starlink - Let's See The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-17 09:30 +0100
                      Re: Ok, Did Sign Up For Starlink - Let's See "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-17 12:49 +0200
                      Re: Ok, Did Sign Up For Starlink - Let's See Fritz Wuehler <fritz@spamexpire-202610.rodent.frell.theremailer.net> - 2026-10-17 21:19 +0200
                    Re: Ok, Did Sign Up For Starlink - Let's See "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-17 12:51 +0200
                      Re: Ok, Did Sign Up For Starlink - Let's See The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-17 12:13 +0100
          Re: Ok, Did Sign Up For Starlink - Let's See rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-15 20:29 +0000
            Re: Ok, Did Sign Up For Starlink - Let's See The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-16 10:11 +0100
      Re: Ok, Did Sign Up For Starlink - Let's See c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-10-14 23:49 -0400

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#93970

On 10/16/26 22:27, Fritz Wuehler wrote:
> c186282 <c186...@nnada.net> [c]:
> c>  And NO they're not gonna drill holes in my roof
> 
> No need to install the antenna up there.  It will work just the same
> on the ground, or outside your window.

   I live where there may be hurricanes, or serious
   winter storm fronts, with very HIGH winds.

   As such, the traditional mounting schemes fronted
   by SL and even Amazon parts suppliers are NOT good
   at all. 90% of the USA, just fine, but not HERE.

   The SL antennas are perfect 'airfoils' ... seem
   designed to take flight.

   Only ONE place along my house where I can put in
   an anchored post and holder frame. Gotta figure
   the easiest way to tilt the antenna just right
   and skew it to a non-cardinal direction. 2.5"
   galv-steel plumbing/electrical pipe should serve
   as the post. May want to put a little concrete
   into the hole, then a couple of v-supports screwed
   to the wall. The 'holder', aluminum angle with
   some hard rubber retainers screwed in at the corners.
   Gotta attach that, rotatable, lockable, to the post.
   Not SUPER difficult, but still a bit complex. Do
   not see ANYTHING like it for sale online.

   Trick, gotta be able to detach the entire antenna
   assembly fast if a bad storm is approaching.

   It DID work out near my doorstep yesterday, speed
   peaking at about 200mbps, 150 typical.

   Next problem, access to the router settings. May
   or may not have the correct app on my iPad. Used
   the antenna-orientation one yesterday but no way
   to access the router. Seems the wifi comes with the
   name STARLINK and NO kind of security code. That's
   an open invitation to the neighbors and whatever
   crimes they are doing.

   Admittedly, I bought this as a 'backup' to my ATT
   system. It IS faster, but really I don't need faster.
   I need to be able to do online billing/banking in
   case of disaster. The No-Towers paradigm IS best.

   By Woden I do hate iPads/iOS ... what stoners
   thought that up ??? Gimme Win98/XP menus and
   an "X" at the corner to shut down the app !
   Had to SEARCH just to find out how to turn
   off the damned iPad.

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#93980

On 17/10/2026 06:47, c186282 wrote:
> On 10/16/26 22:27, Fritz Wuehler wrote:
>> c186282 <c186...@nnada.net> [c]:
>> c>  And NO they're not gonna drill holes in my roof
>>
>> No need to install the antenna up there.  It will work just the same
>> on the ground, or outside your window.
> 
>    I live where there may be hurricanes, or serious
>    winter storm fronts, with very HIGH winds.
> 
>    As such, the traditional mounting schemes fronted
>    by SL and even Amazon parts suppliers are NOT good
>    at all. 90% of the USA, just fine, but not HERE.
> 
>    The SL antennas are perfect 'airfoils' ... seem
>    designed to take flight.
> 
Then put them under an RF transparent cover.

Like a 'radome'


>    Trick, gotta be able to detach the entire antenna
>    assembly fast if a bad storm is approaching.
> 
Not if they are under a 'radome'

>
-- 
“The fundamental cause of the trouble in the modern world today is that 
the stupid are cocksure while the intelligent are full of doubt."

    - Bertrand Russell

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#93997

On 2026-10-17 07:47, c186282 wrote:
> On 10/16/26 22:27, Fritz Wuehler wrote:
>> c186282 <c186...@nnada.net> [c]:


...

>    By Woden I do hate iPads/iOS ... what stoners
>    thought that up ??? Gimme Win98/XP menus and
>    an "X" at the corner to shut down the app !
>    Had to SEARCH just to find out how to turn
>    off the damned iPad.

You could have tried Android tablets or phones. Cheaper, more variety, 
different.

> 


-- 
Cheers, Carlos.
ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;

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#94062

c186282 <c186...@nnada.net> [c]:
c>   Next problem, access to the router settings. May or may not have
c>   the correct app on my iPad. Used the antenna-orientation one
c>   yesterday but no way to access the router.
Doesn't the SL router have LAN ports? The one I used some time ago did.

If it does, attach a laptop. After it gets an IP/gateway from
the router's DHCP server, try connecting to the gateway IP in
your browser.  You might get to the router's configuration menu.

Sorry that I can't be more specific, it's been a few months since I
did it and I no longer have access to SL equipment to test it.

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#94000

On 2026-10-17 04:27, Fritz Wuehler wrote:
> c186282 <c186...@nnada.net> [c]:
> c>  And NO they're not gonna drill holes in my roof
> 
> No need to install the antenna up there.  It will work just the same
> on the ground, or outside your window.

Maybe needed if there are too many trees around.

With a radome for the wind, as says TNP

-- 
Cheers, Carlos.
ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;

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#94006

On 17/10/2026 11:51, Carlos E.R. wrote:
> On 2026-10-17 04:27, Fritz Wuehler wrote:
>> c186282 <c186...@nnada.net> [c]:
>> c>  And NO they're not gonna drill holes in my roof
>>
>> No need to install the antenna up there.  It will work just the same
>> on the ground, or outside your window.
> 
> Maybe needed if there are too many trees around.
> 
> With a radome for the wind, as says TNP
> 
Its intersting. Here is data for the user end of a Starlink

Ku-band (User Links):

     Downlink (Satellite to Dish): 10.7–12.7 GHz
     Uplink (Dish to Satellite): 14.0–14.5 GHz

Further investigation shows that plexiglass is fairly suitable and also 
a kevlar epoxy composite

https://maxmarineelectronics.com/product/starlink-high-performance-antenna-dome-encloser-dummy-dome/

-- 
It is the folly of too many to mistake the echo of a London coffee-house 
for the voice of the kingdom.

Jonathan Swift

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#93785

On Thu, 15 Oct 2026 10:02:33 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

> On 14/10/2026 20:23, rbowman wrote:
>> On Wed, 14 Oct 2026 07:06:45 -0700, Lars Poulsen wrote:
>> 
>>> Something wrong with the numbers here. 80+ GIGABITS? No way!!!
>>> 80 MEGA bits may be possible, as a linkspeed within a transmission
>>> frame,
>>> but not as a sustained data rate.
>> 
>> I have the cheapest StarLink residential plan that is 100 Mbps.
>> 
> Let us know when it slows down to allow Russian missiles to rain on yiur
> head...

I grew up with that bullshit. I'm not impressed. Besides, we're keeping 
the good interceptors and selling Ukraine the factory seconds.

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#93823

On 15/10/2026 21:29, rbowman wrote:
> On Thu, 15 Oct 2026 10:02:33 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
> 
>> On 14/10/2026 20:23, rbowman wrote:
>>> On Wed, 14 Oct 2026 07:06:45 -0700, Lars Poulsen wrote:
>>>
>>>> Something wrong with the numbers here. 80+ GIGABITS? No way!!!
>>>> 80 MEGA bits may be possible, as a linkspeed within a transmission
>>>> frame,
>>>> but not as a sustained data rate.
>>>
>>> I have the cheapest StarLink residential plan that is 100 Mbps.
>>>
>> Let us know when it slows down to allow Russian missiles to rain on yiur
>> head...
> 
> I grew up with that bullshit. I'm not impressed.

No one is intersted oin your state of mind.

  > Besides, we're keeping
> the good interceptors and selling Ukraine the factory seconds.

Actually you aren't. You used them all in defending against a bunch of 
towel heads with portable  missile launchers on the back of Toyota 
pickup trucks, down in the straits of Hormuz.

All because Donny wanted to increase the price of gas to ensure better 
profits in his oil portfolio.

Ah well, mysteriously, after the Russian attack, Starlink has returned 
to normal...




-- 
Any fool can believe in principles -  and most of them do!

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#93733

On 10/14/26 10:06, Lars Poulsen wrote:
> On 10/14/2026 01:15, c186282 wrote:
>> My ATT 5g is pretty BAD. CRAP signal.
>>
>> So, did sign up, I *think*, for Starlink,
>> the tier-2 service. Allegedly $85/Month
>> with superior speed claimed.
>> [...]
>> The 2nd-tier plan ... you pay just a bit more
>> up-front, but then they drop a bunch of fees
>> for the hardware and such. Supposedly 80+ gb/s.
>> That's five times my typical ATT data rate.
>> TWO times, stable, would be WORTH IT.
> 
> Something wrong with the numbers here. 80+ GIGABITS? No way!!!
> 80 MEGA bits may be possible, as a linkspeed within a transmission 
> frame, but not as a sustained data rate.


   Surely megabits. 20gb/s ... that's cat-7+
   stuff.

   Will attempt "self installation". Do not have
   a 'smart'phone to run any 'apps' though. With
   luck the router will come up and I can find it
   and log in that way.


>> Anyway, WILL report here. Then you can make
>> better decisions. The major phone carriers,
>> NOT always so good. Complex and often SHIT
>> signal no matter what they promise. If you
>> have fiber, great, but they're NOT gonna
>> install it for MY place for a variety of
>> reasons - and frankly don't want them to
>> drill holes in my walls, likely to hit
>> some electric wires. 1950 house - concrete
>> and real wood and NO good blueprints.
>>
>> MAY have to build a new house - horrible and
>> expensive but true. Have a spare lot, but
>> even clearing a few trees, the govt will
>> charge HUGE fees. Major rip-off scam !
>>
>> Now if you default on the property, they'll
>> give some developer free reign and LOW costs.
>> Seen that already. SCAM !!! - and this is
>> a 'red' state !
> 
> What kind of a default are you talking about ... you mean if you stop 
> paying your property taxes?
> 
> As for zoning and permits, I would expect that a new owner would have 
> similar rules as you currently have. So are the fees high (for you) or 
> are they low (for someone else) ??

   Only for the favored 'developers'.

>> COULD move to east Texas of course - but
>> that'd be a Big Deal. Also finding some
>> place near a good hospital, just in case ...
>>
>> WANT a 'generous' 2-1/2 by 1/2 up on pilings.
>> Do NOT need giant tubs full of water fer sure.
>> WHY do people WANT that ??? Very 19th century.
> 
> 2-1/2 by 1/2 OF WHAT? Inches, feet or meters? Dimensions of floor joists 
> or thickness of concrete?

   Um ... those terms refer to the floor plan ...
   2 bedroom + 1/2 Bath ( ie a 'shower' ).  The
   mentioned plan would be 2BR, each with its
   own little bathroom, plus a 'spare/visitors'
   crapper stashed somewhere.

>> Using pre-fab concrete sections is the best/
>> fastest way to go. DO need a rather large
>> 'storage'/garage bit too. Note may NOT be
>> able to climb, or maybe even walk, for TOO
>> much longer. Age SUCKS. Gotta arrange a
>> front entrance where an electric/hydraulic
>> LIFT can be easily installed. That'll be
>> interesting. THINK it can be done, discretely.
>> Maybe a 4x4 base plate that can ride up ... ???
> 
> Late-night drinking ?

   Well, that'll make you fall down regardless
   of age :-)

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