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| Started by | Leroy H <lh@somewhere.net> |
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| First post | 2026-10-16 15:45 +0000 |
| Last post | 2026-10-20 14:26 +0100 |
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The Leap Second is Dead. How Will GNU/Linux Cope? Leroy H <lh@somewhere.net> - 2026-10-16 15:45 +0000
Re: The Leap Second is Dead. How Will GNU/Linux Cope? Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-10-16 16:56 +0100
Re: The Leap Second is Dead. How Will GNU/Linux Cope? Leroy H <lh@somewhere.net> - 2026-10-16 17:08 +0000
Re: The Leap Second is Dead. How Will GNU/Linux Cope? Cóilín Nioclásín Glostéir <thanks-to@Taf.com> - 2026-10-16 19:13 +0000
Re: The Leap Second is Dead. How Will GNU/Linux Cope? Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2026-10-17 13:29 +0000
Re: The Leap Second is Dead. How Will GNU/Linux Cope? gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2026-10-17 13:51 +0000
Re: The Leap Second is Dead. How Will GNU/Linux Cope? Leroy H <lh@somewhere.net> - 2026-10-17 14:19 +0000
Re: The Leap Second is Dead. How Will GNU/Linux Cope? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-17 19:37 +0200
Re: The Leap Second is Dead. How Will GNU/Linux Cope? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-18 11:25 +0100
Metric vs. US/Imperial (Was: The Leap Second is Dead. How Will GNU/Linux Cope?) gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2026-10-18 11:57 +0000
Re: Metric vs. US/Imperial (Was: The Leap Second is Dead. How Will GNU/Linux Cope?) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-18 14:20 +0200
Re: Metric vs. US/Imperial (Was: The Leap Second is Dead. How Will GNU/Linux Cope?) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-18 13:25 +0100
Re: Metric vs. US/Imperial (Was: The Leap Second is Dead. How Will GNU/Linux Cope?) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-18 14:31 +0200
Re: Metric vs. US/Imperial (Was: The Leap Second is Dead. How Will GNU/Linux Cope?) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-18 14:23 +0100
Re: Metric vs. US/Imperial (Was: The Leap Second is Dead. How Will GNU/Linux Cope?) Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2026-10-18 13:35 +0000
Re: Metric vs. US/Imperial (Was: The Leap Second is Dead. How Will GNU/Linux Cope?) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-18 18:45 +0000
Re: Metric vs. US/Imperial (Was: The Leap Second is Dead. How Will GNU/Linux Cope?) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-10-18 21:41 +0000
Re: Metric vs. US/Imperial (Was: The Leap Second is Dead. How Will GNU/Linux Cope?) Leroy H <lh@somewhere.net> - 2026-10-19 00:57 +0000
Re: Metric vs. US/Imperial (Was: The Leap Second is Dead. How Will GNU/Linux Cope?) Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-10-19 09:26 +0100
Re: Metric vs. US/Imperial (Was: The Leap Second is Dead. How Will GNU/Linux Cope?) Leroy H <lh@somewhere.net> - 2026-10-19 14:17 +0000
Re: Metric vs. US/Imperial (Was: The Leap Second ...) Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-10-19 02:11 +0000
Re: Metric vs. US/Imperial (Was: The Leap Second ...) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-10-19 02:38 +0000
Re: Metric vs. US/Imperial (Was: The Leap Second ...) Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-10-19 03:52 +0000
Re: Metric vs. US/Imperial (Was: The Leap Second ...) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-10-19 03:56 +0000
Re: Metric vs. US/Imperial (Was: The Leap Second ...) Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-10-19 05:58 +0000
Re: Metric vs. US/Imperial Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-20 02:41 +0100
Re: Metric vs. US/Imperial (Was: The Leap Second ...) Leroy H <lh@somewhere.net> - 2026-10-19 03:03 +0000
Re: Metric vs. US/Imperial (Was: The Leap Second is Dead. How Will GNU/Linux Cope?) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-19 02:49 +0000
Re: Metric vs. US/Imperial (Was: The Leap Second is Dead. How Will GNU/Linux Cope?) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-19 11:49 +0100
Re: Metric vs. US/Imperial Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-20 02:29 +0100
Re: Metric vs. US/Imperial Leroy H <lh@somewhere.net> - 2026-10-20 01:59 +0000
Re: Metric vs. US/Imperial gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2026-10-20 13:20 +0000
Re: Metric vs. US/Imperial The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-20 14:29 +0100
Re: Metric vs. US/Imperial rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-20 18:10 +0000
Re: Metric vs. US/Imperial The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-21 10:19 +0100
Re: Metric vs. US/Imperial rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-21 19:22 +0000
Re: Metric vs. US/Imperial rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-20 18:05 +0000
Re: Metric vs. US/Imperial (Was: The Leap Second is Dead. How Will GNU/Linux Cope?) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-18 20:15 +0100
Re: Metric vs. US/Imperial (Was: The Leap Second is Dead. How Will GNU/Linux Cope?) c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-10-19 00:44 -0400
Re: Metric vs. US/Imperial (Was: The Leap Second is Dead. How Will GNU/Linux Cope?) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-19 11:54 +0100
Re: Metric vs. US/Imperial (Was: The Leap Second is Dead. How Will GNU/Linux Cope?) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-19 20:27 +0200
Re: Metric vs. US/Imperial (Was: The Leap Second is Dead. How Will GNU/Linux Cope?) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-18 14:38 +0200
Re: Metric vs. US/Imperial (Was: The Leap Second is Dead. How Will GNU/Linux Cope?) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-18 14:26 +0100
Re: Metric vs. US/Imperial (Was: The Leap Second is Dead. How Will GNU/Linux Cope?) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-18 18:59 +0000
Re: Metric vs. US/Imperial (Was: The Leap Second is Dead. How Will GNU/Linux Cope?) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-19 20:36 +0200
Re: Metric vs. US/Imperial (Was: The Leap Second is Dead. How Will GNU/Linux Cope?) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-20 09:08 +0100
Re: Metric vs. US/Imperial (Was: The Leap Second is Dead. How Will GNU/Linux Cope?) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-20 10:35 +0200
Re: Metric vs. US/Imperial (Was: The Leap Second is Dead. How Will GNU/Linux Cope?) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-20 14:21 +0100
Re: Metric vs. US/Imperial (Was: The Leap Second is Dead. How Will GNU/Linux Cope?) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-18 18:55 +0000
Re: Metric vs. US/Imperial (Was: The Leap Second is Dead. How Will GNU/Linux Cope?) Roger Blake <rogblake@iname.invalid> - 2026-10-18 19:05 +0000
Re: Metric vs. US/Imperial (Was: The Leap Second is Dead. How Will GNU/Linux Cope?) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-18 20:41 +0100
Re: Metric vs. US/Imperial (Was: The Leap Second is Dead. How Will GNU/Linux Cope?) Roger Blake <rogblake@iname.invalid> - 2026-10-19 00:15 +0000
Re: Metric vs. US/Imperial (Was: The Leap Second ...) Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-10-19 02:02 +0000
Re: Metric vs. US/Imperial Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-20 02:18 +0100
Re: Metric vs. US/Imperial Leroy H <lh@somewhere.net> - 2026-10-20 01:52 +0000
Re: Metric vs. US/Imperial "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-20 10:37 +0200
Re: Metric vs. US/Imperial Pancho <Pancho.Jones@protonmail.com> - 2026-10-20 11:39 +0100
Re: Metric vs. US/Imperial The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-20 14:22 +0100
Re: Metric vs. US/Imperial "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-20 21:11 +0200
Re: Metric vs. US/Imperial rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-20 17:45 +0000
Re: Metric vs. US/Imperial Leroy H <lh@somewhere.net> - 2026-10-20 18:28 +0000
Re: Metric vs. US/Imperial rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-21 01:05 +0000
Re: Metric vs. US/Imperial (Was: The Leap Second is Dead. How Will GNU/Linux Cope?) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-19 11:48 +0100
Re: Metric vs. US/Imperial (Was: The Leap Second is Dead. How Will GNU/Linux Cope?) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-19 02:42 +0000
Re: Metric vs. US/Imperial Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-20 02:20 +0100
Re: Metric vs. US/Imperial Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam2616@zugschl.us> - 2026-10-20 08:39 +0200
Re: Metric vs. US/Imperial Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-10-20 07:53 +0000
Re: Metric vs. US/Imperial "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-20 10:38 +0200
Re: Metric vs. US/Imperial The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-20 14:23 +0100
Re: Metric vs. US/Imperial "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-20 21:13 +0200
Re: Metric vs. US/Imperial Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-10-20 23:18 +0000
Re: Metric vs. US/Imperial "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-21 03:09 +0200
Re: Metric vs. US/Imperial Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-10-21 03:22 +0000
Re: Metric vs. US/Imperial "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-21 11:19 +0200
Re: Metric vs. US/Imperial rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-21 13:44 +0000
Re: Metric vs. US/Imperial gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2026-10-21 13:54 +0000
Re: Metric vs. US/Imperial Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-10-21 15:33 +0100
Re: Metric vs. US/Imperial The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-21 15:19 +0100
Re: Metric vs. US/Imperial rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-21 19:44 +0000
Re: names of bats "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-22 12:04 +0200
Re: names of bats Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-10-22 11:15 +0100
Re: names of bats "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-22 12:20 +0200
Re: Metric vs. US/Imperial The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-21 10:24 +0100
Re: Metric vs. US/Imperial "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-21 03:16 +0200
Re: Metric vs. US/Imperial rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-21 02:31 +0000
Re: Metric vs. US/Imperial Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-10-21 03:22 +0000
Re: Metric vs. US/Imperial "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-21 11:21 +0200
Re: Metric vs. US/Imperial rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-21 14:00 +0000
Re: Metric vs. US/Imperial "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-21 19:56 +0200
Re: Metric vs. US/Imperial Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-10-20 19:04 +0000
Re: Metric vs. US/Imperial "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-20 22:02 +0200
Re: Metric vs. US/Imperial The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-21 10:22 +0100
Re: Metric vs. US/Imperial Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-10-20 20:29 +0000
Re: Metric vs. US/Imperial rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-21 02:12 +0000
Re: Metric vs. US/Imperial The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-21 10:22 +0100
Re: Metric vs. US/Imperial rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-21 13:57 +0000
Re: Metric vs. US/Imperial The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-21 15:18 +0100
Re: Metric vs. US/Imperial rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-21 19:51 +0000
Re: Metric vs. US/Imperial "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-21 19:58 +0200
Re: Metric vs. US/Imperial rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-21 19:58 +0000
Margarine "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-22 12:19 +0200
Re: Margarine c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-10-22 07:16 -0400
Re: Margarine "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-22 13:46 +0200
Re: Margarine The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-22 15:54 +0100
Re: Margarine rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-22 17:46 +0000
Re: Margarine Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-10-22 19:05 +0000
Re: Margarine rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-23 00:19 +0000
Re: Margarine Robert Riches <spamtrap42@jacob21819.net> - 2026-10-23 04:18 +0000
Re: Margarine "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-23 11:17 +0200
Re: Margarine The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-23 10:33 +0100
Re: Margarine "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-23 12:20 +0200
Re: Margarine The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-23 11:49 +0100
Re: Margarine The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-23 09:25 +0100
Re: Margarine "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-23 11:15 +0200
Re: Margarine c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-10-23 07:04 -0400
Re: Margarine "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-23 14:09 +0200
Re: Margarine The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-23 13:53 +0100
Re: Margarine c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-10-23 09:18 -0400
Re: Margarine The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-22 15:46 +0100
Re: Margarine The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-22 15:40 +0100
Re: Margarine Pancho <Pancho.Jones@protonmail.com> - 2026-10-23 09:21 +0100
Re: Metric vs. US/Imperial The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-21 10:20 +0100
Re: Metric vs. US/Imperial rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-20 17:57 +0000
Re: Metric vs. US/Imperial (Was: The Leap Second is Dead. How Will GNU/Linux Cope?) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-19 20:49 +0200
Re: Metric vs. US/Imperial (Was: The Leap Second is Dead. How Will GNU/Linux Cope?) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-18 13:21 +0100
Re: Metric vs. US/Imperial (Was: The Leap Second is Dead. How Will GNU/Linux Cope?) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-18 19:04 +0000
Re: Metric vs. US/Imperial (Was: The Leap Second is Dead. How Will GNU/Linux Cope?) Leroy H <lh@somewhere.net> - 2026-10-18 14:07 +0000
Re: Metric vs. US/Imperial (Was: The Leap Second is Dead. How Will GNU/Linux Cope?) Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> - 2026-10-18 11:45 -0700
Re: Metric vs. US/Imperial (Was: The Leap Second is Dead. How Will GNU/Linux Cope?) Leroy H <lh@somewhere.net> - 2026-10-18 19:27 +0000
Re: Metric vs. US/Imperial (Was: The Leap Second is Dead. How Will GNU/Linux Cope?) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-19 02:30 +0000
Re: Metric vs. US/Imperial (Was: The Leap Second ...) Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-10-19 02:06 +0000
Re: Metric vs. US/Imperial (Was: The Leap Second is Dead. How Will GNU/Linux Cope?) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-18 19:05 +0000
Re: Metric vs. US/Imperial (Was: The Leap Second is Dead. How Will GNU/Linux Cope?) Leroy H <lh@somewhere.net> - 2026-10-18 19:32 +0000
Re: Metric vs. US/Imperial (Was: The Leap Second is Dead. How Will GNU/Linux Cope?) gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2026-10-18 19:37 +0000
Re: Metric vs. US/Imperial (Was: The Leap Second is Dead. How Will GNU/Linux Cope?) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-19 02:20 +0000
Re: Metric vs. US/Imperial (Was: The Leap Second is Dead. How Will GNU/Linux Cope?) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-18 20:40 +0100
Re: Metric vs. US/Imperial (Was: The Leap Second is Dead. How Will GNU/Linux Cope?) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-19 21:00 +0200
Re: Metric vs. US/Imperial Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-20 03:03 +0100
Re: Metric vs. US/Imperial (Was: The Leap Second is Dead. How Will GNU/Linux Cope?) Pancho <Pancho.Jones@protonmail.com> - 2026-10-20 11:40 +0100
Re: Metric vs. US/Imperial (Was: The Leap Second is Dead. How Will GNU/Linux Cope?) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-20 14:26 +0100
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| From | "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-10-19 20:27 +0200 |
| Subject | Re: Metric vs. US/Imperial (Was: The Leap Second is Dead. How Will GNU/Linux Cope?) |
| Message-ID | <l04iqmxel2.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> |
| In reply to | #94188 |
On 2026-10-18 15:35, Stéphane CARPENTIER wrote: > Le 18-10-2026, Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> a écrit : >> On 2026-10-18 14:25, The Natural Philosopher wrote: >>> On 18/10/2026 13:20, Carlos E.R. wrote: >>>> Here, the imperial system is not even mentioned in school. All is SI. >>>> As in most countries. >>>> >>> Not really >>> >>> Just yours >>> >>> >> Really? X'-D > > In Spain, as well as in Portugal and in France and in Germany and in > Belgian and in Netherlands and in Morocco and in Algeria and in Egypt > and in Roumania and in India. I stop here because I can't speak about > countries in which I don't know anyone. And China. I was curious and asked Google. Although they also use some "market units", mostly standardized to convert cleanly into metric values. > > Well, that's why I'm calling him The Blind Natural Philosopher. > -- Cheers, Carlos. ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;
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| From | "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-10-18 14:38 +0200 |
| Subject | Re: Metric vs. US/Imperial (Was: The Leap Second is Dead. How Will GNU/Linux Cope?) |
| Message-ID | <l7reqmxidv.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> |
| In reply to | #94171 |
On 2026-10-18 14:25, The Natural Philosopher wrote: > On 18/10/2026 13:20, Carlos E.R. wrote: >> On 2026-10-18 13:57, Kenny McCormack wrote: >>> In article <ubocqmx3dc.ln2@Telcontar.valinor>, >>> Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote: >>>> On 2026-10-17 16:19, Leroy H wrote: >>>>> It was the French that gave the world the metric system (or SI) >>>>> which is >>>>> perhaps fit for the sterile laboratory but which has no place in daily >>>>> life. Indeed, both the USA and GB resist the SI units in that most >>>>> civil >>>>> measurements are still reported in pounds, feet, Fahrenheit, etc. >>>> >>>> Lighten up, the SI is used in the entire world. Just some recalcitrant >>>> people remain in their old ways. >>> >>> Believe it or not, this (the age-old discussion of US/Imperial vs. >>> metric) >>> actually seems to be another instance of "Yes, it is technically >>> superior, >>> but it is not the standard (i.e., what most people use), so we think you >>> should go with the standard even though it is technically inferior." >>> >>> There are actually quite a lot of those in life. >>> >>> I.e., what I'm saying is that there actually are quite a few >>> arguments to >>> be made that US/Imperial is actually better. >>> >>> Sort of like Betamax (Yes, the classic example of "better does not >>> ensure >>> market dominance".) >> >> Here, the imperial system is not even mentioned in school. All is SI. >> As in most countries. >> > Not really > > Just yours In your dreams. 19 out out of 20 people worldwide use the SI. Worldwide, the SI (metric) system is used by the overwhelming majority of the world's population. The Imperial System, by contrast, has a much smaller footprint, primarily in the United States for everyday measurements, with some Imperial units still used in the UK and elsewhere. One important distinction: the SI system is the internationally agreed system of units, but people in countries that officially use metric may still use traditional units in everyday life. So the figures are estimates of the populations living in places that predominantly use each system, not a count of individual people's habits. ## Estimated worldwide usage (2026) ## SI / Metric # ≈ 7.9 billion About 95% of the world's population ## Imperial / US customary # ≈ 400 million Roughly 5% of the world's population Approximate population-based estimates, not measured counts of individual users. Figures are rounded. These estimates use the populations of countries where non-metric or US customary measurements remain prominent, while recognising that many people use both systems. The US is by far the largest stronghold of customary measurements; Liberia and Myanmar also retain traditional units. World Population Review +2 ## Where are the systems used? | Region or country | Predominant situation | | ------------------------------------------------------ | -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- | | Europe, China, India, most of Africa and Latin America | SI / Metric | | United States | US customary units in everyday life; metric in science and many industries | | United Kingdom | Mixed: metric for many purposes, miles for road distances, pints for some drinks | | Canada | Predominantly metric, with some customary units in everyday use | | Liberia and Myanmar | Mixed systems, with traditional units still used | World Population Review +2 ## The key takeaway Approximately 19 out of every 20 people worldwide live in countries where metric measurements predominate. One caveat: the Imperial System and US customary system are not identical. Also, there is no reliable worldwide census of which units each person uses, and the UK and Canada make a strict two-way classification misleading. The percentages above should therefore be treated as a useful broad estimate, not an exact statistical measurement. -- Cheers, Carlos. ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;
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| From | The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-10-18 14:26 +0100 |
| Subject | Re: Metric vs. US/Imperial (Was: The Leap Second is Dead. How Will GNU/Linux Cope?) |
| Message-ID | <11b2hen$11pis$35@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #94177 |
On 18/10/2026 13:38, Carlos E.R. wrote: > On 2026-10-18 14:25, The Natural Philosopher wrote: >> On 18/10/2026 13:20, Carlos E.R. wrote: >>> On 2026-10-18 13:57, Kenny McCormack wrote: >>>> In article <ubocqmx3dc.ln2@Telcontar.valinor>, >>>> Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote: >>>>> On 2026-10-17 16:19, Leroy H wrote: >>>>>> It was the French that gave the world the metric system (or SI) >>>>>> which is >>>>>> perhaps fit for the sterile laboratory but which has no place in >>>>>> daily >>>>>> life. Indeed, both the USA and GB resist the SI units in that >>>>>> most civil >>>>>> measurements are still reported in pounds, feet, Fahrenheit, etc. >>>>> >>>>> Lighten up, the SI is used in the entire world. Just some recalcitrant >>>>> people remain in their old ways. >>>> >>>> Believe it or not, this (the age-old discussion of US/Imperial vs. >>>> metric) >>>> actually seems to be another instance of "Yes, it is technically >>>> superior, >>>> but it is not the standard (i.e., what most people use), so we think >>>> you >>>> should go with the standard even though it is technically inferior." >>>> >>>> There are actually quite a lot of those in life. >>>> >>>> I.e., what I'm saying is that there actually are quite a few >>>> arguments to >>>> be made that US/Imperial is actually better. >>>> >>>> Sort of like Betamax (Yes, the classic example of "better does not >>>> ensure >>>> market dominance".) >>> >>> Here, the imperial system is not even mentioned in school. All is SI. >>> As in most countries. >>> >> Not really >> >> Just yours > > In your dreams. 19 out out of 20 people worldwide use the SI. > But 20 out of 20 people ALSO use other systems You don't say 'your last post was 1325.2 seconds ago do you? You use hours minutes days, moths and years You are really so informed by idealism rather than facts its kinda cute... -- "An intellectual is a person knowledgeable in one field who speaks out only in others...” Tom Wolfe
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2026-10-18 18:59 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: Metric vs. US/Imperial (Was: The Leap Second is Dead. How Will GNU/Linux Cope?) |
| Message-ID | <njkj83Fei39U29@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #94186 |
On Sun, 18 Oct 2026 14:26:47 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote: > You use hours minutes days, moths and years The French tried to redefine those when the had their Revolution but that didn't take as well as some of their other novel measurements.
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| From | "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-10-19 20:36 +0200 |
| Subject | Re: Metric vs. US/Imperial (Was: The Leap Second is Dead. How Will GNU/Linux Cope?) |
| Message-ID | <5j4iqmxj25.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> |
| In reply to | #94186 |
On 2026-10-18 15:26, The Natural Philosopher wrote: > On 18/10/2026 13:38, Carlos E.R. wrote: >> On 2026-10-18 14:25, The Natural Philosopher wrote: >>> On 18/10/2026 13:20, Carlos E.R. wrote: >>>> On 2026-10-18 13:57, Kenny McCormack wrote: >>>>> In article <ubocqmx3dc.ln2@Telcontar.valinor>, >>>>> Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote: >>>>>> On 2026-10-17 16:19, Leroy H wrote: >>>>>>> It was the French that gave the world the metric system (or SI) >>>>>>> which is >>>>>>> perhaps fit for the sterile laboratory but which has no place in >>>>>>> daily >>>>>>> life. Indeed, both the USA and GB resist the SI units in that >>>>>>> most civil >>>>>>> measurements are still reported in pounds, feet, Fahrenheit, etc. >>>>>> >>>>>> Lighten up, the SI is used in the entire world. Just some >>>>>> recalcitrant >>>>>> people remain in their old ways. >>>>> >>>>> Believe it or not, this (the age-old discussion of US/Imperial vs. >>>>> metric) >>>>> actually seems to be another instance of "Yes, it is technically >>>>> superior, >>>>> but it is not the standard (i.e., what most people use), so we >>>>> think you >>>>> should go with the standard even though it is technically inferior." >>>>> >>>>> There are actually quite a lot of those in life. >>>>> >>>>> I.e., what I'm saying is that there actually are quite a few >>>>> arguments to >>>>> be made that US/Imperial is actually better. >>>>> >>>>> Sort of like Betamax (Yes, the classic example of "better does not >>>>> ensure >>>>> market dominance".) >>>> >>>> Here, the imperial system is not even mentioned in school. All is >>>> SI. As in most countries. >>>> >>> Not really >>> >>> Just yours >> >> In your dreams. 19 out out of 20 people worldwide use the SI. >> > But 20 out of 20 people ALSO use other systems > > You don't say 'your last post was 1325.2 seconds ago do you? > > You use hours minutes days, moths and years That's grasping at straws, LOL. > > You are really so informed by idealism rather than facts its kinda cute... > -- Cheers, Carlos. ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;
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| From | The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-10-20 09:08 +0100 |
| Subject | Re: Metric vs. US/Imperial (Was: The Leap Second is Dead. How Will GNU/Linux Cope?) |
| Message-ID | <11b77ie$2q6cj$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #94351 |
On 19/10/2026 19:36, Carlos E.R. wrote: > On 2026-10-18 15:26, The Natural Philosopher wrote: >> On 18/10/2026 13:38, Carlos E.R. wrote: >>> On 2026-10-18 14:25, The Natural Philosopher wrote: >>>> On 18/10/2026 13:20, Carlos E.R. wrote: >>>>> On 2026-10-18 13:57, Kenny McCormack wrote: >>>>>> In article <ubocqmx3dc.ln2@Telcontar.valinor>, >>>>>> Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote: >>>>>>> On 2026-10-17 16:19, Leroy H wrote: >>>>>>>> It was the French that gave the world the metric system (or SI) >>>>>>>> which is >>>>>>>> perhaps fit for the sterile laboratory but which has no place in >>>>>>>> daily >>>>>>>> life. Indeed, both the USA and GB resist the SI units in that >>>>>>>> most civil >>>>>>>> measurements are still reported in pounds, feet, Fahrenheit, etc. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Lighten up, the SI is used in the entire world. Just some >>>>>>> recalcitrant >>>>>>> people remain in their old ways. >>>>>> >>>>>> Believe it or not, this (the age-old discussion of US/Imperial vs. >>>>>> metric) >>>>>> actually seems to be another instance of "Yes, it is technically >>>>>> superior, >>>>>> but it is not the standard (i.e., what most people use), so we >>>>>> think you >>>>>> should go with the standard even though it is technically inferior." >>>>>> >>>>>> There are actually quite a lot of those in life. >>>>>> >>>>>> I.e., what I'm saying is that there actually are quite a few >>>>>> arguments to >>>>>> be made that US/Imperial is actually better. >>>>>> >>>>>> Sort of like Betamax (Yes, the classic example of "better does not >>>>>> ensure >>>>>> market dominance".) >>>>> >>>>> Here, the imperial system is not even mentioned in school. All is >>>>> SI. As in most countries. >>>>> >>>> Not really >>>> >>>> Just yours >>> >>> In your dreams. 19 out out of 20 people worldwide use the SI. >>> >> But 20 out of 20 people ALSO use other systems >> >> You don't say 'your last post was 1325.2 seconds ago do you? >> >> You use hours minutes days, moths and years > > That's grasping at straws, LOL. > Just the first example that comes to mind. Ever buy jewellry with a 6ooµg diamond etc? Of course not Point being every country in the world uses a mixture. This is something BooleanBrains™ find hard to grasp. -- Climate Change: Socialism wearing a lab coat.
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| From | "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-10-20 10:35 +0200 |
| Subject | Re: Metric vs. US/Imperial (Was: The Leap Second is Dead. How Will GNU/Linux Cope?) |
| Message-ID | <6nljqmx5aq.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> |
| In reply to | #94383 |
On 2026-10-20 10:08, The Natural Philosopher wrote: > On 19/10/2026 19:36, Carlos E.R. wrote: >> On 2026-10-18 15:26, The Natural Philosopher wrote: >>> On 18/10/2026 13:38, Carlos E.R. wrote: >>>> On 2026-10-18 14:25, The Natural Philosopher wrote: >>>>> On 18/10/2026 13:20, Carlos E.R. wrote: >>>>>> On 2026-10-18 13:57, Kenny McCormack wrote: >>>>>>> In article <ubocqmx3dc.ln2@Telcontar.valinor>, >>>>>>> Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote: >>>>>>>> On 2026-10-17 16:19, Leroy H wrote: >>>>>>>>> It was the French that gave the world the metric system (or SI) >>>>>>>>> which is >>>>>>>>> perhaps fit for the sterile laboratory but which has no place >>>>>>>>> in daily >>>>>>>>> life. Indeed, both the USA and GB resist the SI units in that >>>>>>>>> most civil >>>>>>>>> measurements are still reported in pounds, feet, Fahrenheit, etc. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Lighten up, the SI is used in the entire world. Just some >>>>>>>> recalcitrant >>>>>>>> people remain in their old ways. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Believe it or not, this (the age-old discussion of US/Imperial >>>>>>> vs. metric) >>>>>>> actually seems to be another instance of "Yes, it is technically >>>>>>> superior, >>>>>>> but it is not the standard (i.e., what most people use), so we >>>>>>> think you >>>>>>> should go with the standard even though it is technically inferior." >>>>>>> >>>>>>> There are actually quite a lot of those in life. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I.e., what I'm saying is that there actually are quite a few >>>>>>> arguments to >>>>>>> be made that US/Imperial is actually better. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Sort of like Betamax (Yes, the classic example of "better does >>>>>>> not ensure >>>>>>> market dominance".) >>>>>> >>>>>> Here, the imperial system is not even mentioned in school. All is >>>>>> SI. As in most countries. >>>>>> >>>>> Not really >>>>> >>>>> Just yours >>>> >>>> In your dreams. 19 out out of 20 people worldwide use the SI. >>>> >>> But 20 out of 20 people ALSO use other systems >>> >>> You don't say 'your last post was 1325.2 seconds ago do you? >>> >>> You use hours minutes days, moths and years >> >> That's grasping at straws, LOL. >> > Just the first example that comes to mind. > Ever buy jewellry with a 6ooµg diamond etc? > Of course not Grasping at straws. That's irrelevant for the claim "we use the SI only". > > Point being every country in the world uses a mixture. This is something > BooleanBrains™ find hard to grasp. > > -- Cheers, Carlos. ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;
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| From | The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-10-20 14:21 +0100 |
| Subject | Re: Metric vs. US/Imperial (Was: The Leap Second is Dead. How Will GNU/Linux Cope?) |
| Message-ID | <11b7psj$305dq$12@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #94387 |
On 20/10/2026 09:35, Carlos E.R. wrote: > On 2026-10-20 10:08, The Natural Philosopher wrote: >> On 19/10/2026 19:36, Carlos E.R. wrote: >>> On 2026-10-18 15:26, The Natural Philosopher wrote: >>>> On 18/10/2026 13:38, Carlos E.R. wrote: >>>>> On 2026-10-18 14:25, The Natural Philosopher wrote: >>>>>> On 18/10/2026 13:20, Carlos E.R. wrote: >>>>>>> On 2026-10-18 13:57, Kenny McCormack wrote: >>>>>>>> In article <ubocqmx3dc.ln2@Telcontar.valinor>, >>>>>>>> Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote: >>>>>>>>> On 2026-10-17 16:19, Leroy H wrote: >>>>>>>>>> It was the French that gave the world the metric system (or >>>>>>>>>> SI) which is >>>>>>>>>> perhaps fit for the sterile laboratory but which has no place >>>>>>>>>> in daily >>>>>>>>>> life. Indeed, both the USA and GB resist the SI units in that >>>>>>>>>> most civil >>>>>>>>>> measurements are still reported in pounds, feet, Fahrenheit, etc. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Lighten up, the SI is used in the entire world. Just some >>>>>>>>> recalcitrant >>>>>>>>> people remain in their old ways. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Believe it or not, this (the age-old discussion of US/Imperial >>>>>>>> vs. metric) >>>>>>>> actually seems to be another instance of "Yes, it is technically >>>>>>>> superior, >>>>>>>> but it is not the standard (i.e., what most people use), so we >>>>>>>> think you >>>>>>>> should go with the standard even though it is technically >>>>>>>> inferior." >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> There are actually quite a lot of those in life. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I.e., what I'm saying is that there actually are quite a few >>>>>>>> arguments to >>>>>>>> be made that US/Imperial is actually better. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Sort of like Betamax (Yes, the classic example of "better does >>>>>>>> not ensure >>>>>>>> market dominance".) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Here, the imperial system is not even mentioned in school. All is >>>>>>> SI. As in most countries. >>>>>>> >>>>>> Not really >>>>>> >>>>>> Just yours >>>>> >>>>> In your dreams. 19 out out of 20 people worldwide use the SI. >>>>> >>>> But 20 out of 20 people ALSO use other systems >>>> >>>> You don't say 'your last post was 1325.2 seconds ago do you? >>>> >>>> You use hours minutes days, moths and years >>> >>> That's grasping at straws, LOL. >>> >> Just the first example that comes to mind. >> Ever buy jewellry with a 6ooµg diamond etc? >> Of course not > > Grasping at straws. That's irrelevant for the claim "we use the SI only". > No, it isn't. The point is that in no country on earth is the use of SI units universal across all measurements. It is not an SI/Not SI boolean position. All countries uses SI to some extent, just some more than others and making an issue of it is rather moronic >> >> Point being every country in the world uses a mixture. This is >> something BooleanBrains™ find hard to grasp. >> >> > > -- “It is not the truth of Marxism that explains the willingness of intellectuals to believe it, but the power that it confers on intellectuals, in their attempts to control the world. And since...it is futile to reason someone out of a thing that he was not reasoned into, we can conclude that Marxism owes its remarkable power to survive every criticism to the fact that it is not a truth-directed but a power-directed system of thought.” Sir Roger Scruton
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2026-10-18 18:55 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: Metric vs. US/Imperial (Was: The Leap Second is Dead. How Will GNU/Linux Cope?) |
| Message-ID | <njkj1kFei39U28@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #94177 |
On Sun, 18 Oct 2026 14:38:45 +0200, Carlos E.R. wrote: > Worldwide, the SI (metric) system is used by the overwhelming majority > of the world's population. The Imperial System, by contrast, has a much > smaller footprint, primarily in the United States for everyday > measurements, with some Imperial units still used in the UK and > elsewhere. The US doesn't exactly use the Imperial system. The US adopted the British units before Britain defined the Imperial system. It's mostly the same but there are differences. A ton is 2000 lbs, the gallon is .83 of an Imperial gallon which trickles down to quarts and pints.
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| From | Roger Blake <rogblake@iname.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-10-18 19:05 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: Metric vs. US/Imperial (Was: The Leap Second is Dead. How Will GNU/Linux Cope?) |
| Message-ID | <20261018145916@news.eternal-september.org> |
| In reply to | #94167 |
On 2026-10-18, Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote: > Here, the imperial system is not even mentioned in school. All is SI. As > in most countries. How are vehicles wheel/tire diameters in your country measured? All the imported cars I see here in the U.S. have wheels and tire size measured in inches. -- Roger Blake
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| From | The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-10-18 20:41 +0100 |
| Subject | Re: Metric vs. US/Imperial (Was: The Leap Second is Dead. How Will GNU/Linux Cope?) |
| Message-ID | <11b37e5$1dsuc$10@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #94213 |
On 18/10/2026 20:05, Roger Blake wrote: > On 2026-10-18, Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote: >> Here, the imperial system is not even mentioned in school. All is SI. As >> in most countries. > > How are vehicles wheel/tire diameters in your country measured? > All the imported cars I see here in the U.S. have wheels and > tire size measured in inches. > Of course. rims are inches, tyre tread widths are mm. -- “it should be clear by now to everyone that activist environmentalism (or environmental activism) is becoming a general ideology about humans, about their freedom, about the relationship between the individual and the state, and about the manipulation of people under the guise of a 'noble' idea. It is not an honest pursuit of 'sustainable development,' a matter of elementary environmental protection, or a search for rational mechanisms designed to achieve a healthy environment. Yet things do occur that make you shake your head and remind yourself that you live neither in Joseph Stalin’s Communist era, nor in the Orwellian utopia of 1984.” Vaclav Klaus
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| From | Roger Blake <rogblake@iname.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-10-19 00:15 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: Metric vs. US/Imperial (Was: The Leap Second is Dead. How Will GNU/Linux Cope?) |
| Message-ID | <20261018200804@news.eternal-september.org> |
| In reply to | #94227 |
On 2026-10-18, The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote: > Of course. rims are inches, tyre tread widths are mm. Since the person I was asking said that only metric is taught in his country's schools, I was wondering if people there just scratch their heads in confusion when buying tires. To me the metric system makes no sense. I don't grok it at all. But fortunately in the U.S. the exposure to it is minimal. -- Roger Blake
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| From | Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-10-19 02:02 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: Metric vs. US/Imperial (Was: The Leap Second ...) |
| Message-ID | <11b3tms$1lgro$4@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #94259 |
On Mon, 19 Oct 2026 00:15:06 -0000 (UTC), Roger Blake wrote: > To me the metric system makes no sense. I don't grok it at all. Doesn’t matter what units your country uses, they are all officially defined in terms of SI units anyway. I was reading an article earlier today about NASA’s Artemis II mission to the Moon. They were measuring their distance from the Earth in (get this) nautical miles. Why?? As far as I know, they give their velocities in (non-nautical) miles per second or (non-nautical) miles per hour; so after travelling an hour at 18,000 miles per hour, they won’t say they’ve done 18,000 miles, they give a figure like 15,642 nautical miles instead?!? To me, that’s just making extra work for yourself -- and introducing more opportunities to make mistakes.
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| From | Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-10-20 02:18 +0100 |
| Subject | Re: Metric vs. US/Imperial |
| Message-ID | <11b6fhs$2jehe$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #94263 |
On 2026-10-19, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote: > On Mon, 19 Oct 2026 00:15:06 -0000 (UTC), Roger Blake wrote: > >> To me the metric system makes no sense. I don't grok it at all. > > Doesn’t matter what units your country uses, they are all officially > defined in terms of SI units anyway. > > I was reading an article earlier today about NASA’s Artemis II mission > to the Moon. They were measuring their distance from the Earth in (get > this) nautical miles. Why?? As far as I know, they give their > velocities in (non-nautical) miles per second or (non-nautical) miles > per hour; so after travelling an hour at 18,000 miles per hour, they > won’t say they’ve done 18,000 miles, they give a figure like 15,642 > nautical miles instead?!? > > To me, that’s just making extra work for yourself -- and introducing > more opportunities to make mistakes. Thankfully, it's not like NASA has ever lost a spacecraft or probe due to unit mismatches... <https://enwp.org/Mars_Climate_Orbiter> -- Nuno Silva
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| From | Leroy H <lh@somewhere.net> |
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| Date | 2026-10-20 01:52 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: Metric vs. US/Imperial |
| Message-ID | <18e019e60bb0293a$2253$25751$802601b3@news.usenetexpress.com> |
| In reply to | #94369 |
On Tue, 20 Oct 2026 02:18:52 +0100, Nuno Silva wrote: > > Thankfully, it's not like NASA has ever lost a spacecraft or probe due > to unit mismatches... > > <https://enwp.org/Mars_Climate_Orbiter> > We have all heard of that fiasco, but it's just another example of lax engineering practice. As a university student, I attended a US school of engineering and a good portion of the curriculum was devoted to unit conversions. In each and every class, there were constant and tedious unit conversion drills to the point that I became absolutely sick of them. But unit conversions are especially important in the US where US customary units exist side by side with SI (metric) units. In the US chemical engineering, for example, one does ever mention a "mole" but only a pound-mole, lb-mol, or a gram-mole, g-mole. So the NASA fiasco was due to only to the lack of diligence of the engineers involved.
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| From | "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-10-20 10:37 +0200 |
| Subject | Re: Metric vs. US/Imperial |
| Message-ID | <gqljqmx5aq.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> |
| In reply to | #94374 |
On 2026-10-20 03:52, Leroy H wrote: > On Tue, 20 Oct 2026 02:18:52 +0100, Nuno Silva wrote: > >> >> Thankfully, it's not like NASA has ever lost a spacecraft or probe due >> to unit mismatches... >> >> <https://enwp.org/Mars_Climate_Orbiter> >> > > We have all heard of that fiasco, but it's just another example of lax > engineering practice. > > As a university student, I attended a US school of engineering and a good > portion of the curriculum was devoted to unit conversions. In each and every > class, there were constant and tedious unit conversion drills to the point > that I became absolutely sick of them. LOL. We never spent even a second on it. Not even mentioned. > > But unit conversions are especially important in the US where US customary > units exist side by side with SI (metric) units. > > In the US chemical engineering, for example, one does ever mention a "mole" > but only a pound-mole, lb-mol, or a gram-mole, g-mole. > > So the NASA fiasco was due to only to the lack of diligence of the engineers > involved. > -- Cheers, Carlos. ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;
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| From | Pancho <Pancho.Jones@protonmail.com> |
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| Date | 2026-10-20 11:39 +0100 |
| Subject | Re: Metric vs. US/Imperial |
| Message-ID | <11b7gcq$onfp$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #94388 |
On 10/20/26 09:37, Carlos E.R. wrote: > On 2026-10-20 03:52, Leroy H wrote: >> On Tue, 20 Oct 2026 02:18:52 +0100, Nuno Silva wrote: >> >>> >>> Thankfully, it's not like NASA has ever lost a spacecraft or probe due >>> to unit mismatches... >>> >>> <https://enwp.org/Mars_Climate_Orbiter> >>> >> >> We have all heard of that fiasco, but it's just another example of lax >> engineering practice. >> >> As a university student, I attended a US school of engineering and a good >> portion of the curriculum was devoted to unit conversions. In each >> and every >> class, there were constant and tedious unit conversion drills to the >> point >> that I became absolutely sick of them. > > LOL. We never spent even a second on it. Not even mentioned. > I'm in the UK, in formal education, I only ever used metric. I was irritated on leaving education to find the rest of the UK dragging its feet on metrication. FWIW, I wanted to write metrification, but wiki primarily uses metrication, so I use that, that is what standardisation is about. It is just polite to use standards. >> >> But unit conversions are especially important in the US where US >> customary >> units exist side by side with SI (metric) units. >> >> In the US chemical engineering, for example, one does ever mention a >> "mole" >> but only a pound-mole, lb-mol, or a gram-mole, g-mole. >> So the NASA fiasco was due to only to the lack of diligence of the >> engineers >> involved. >> I think a couple of standard IT maxims apply. The first is about spoken instructions for a task that can be completed in "13 easy steps" (pick any big number). The second is "no job is so simple that it cannot be fucked up". In essence, yes, conversion is simple, but adding unnecessary steps, even simple steps, increases the risk of failure.
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| From | The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-10-20 14:22 +0100 |
| Subject | Re: Metric vs. US/Imperial |
| Message-ID | <11b7pu2$305dq$13@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #94388 |
On 20/10/2026 09:37, Carlos E.R. wrote: > On 2026-10-20 03:52, Leroy H wrote: >> On Tue, 20 Oct 2026 02:18:52 +0100, Nuno Silva wrote: >> >>> >>> Thankfully, it's not like NASA has ever lost a spacecraft or probe due >>> to unit mismatches... >>> >>> <https://enwp.org/Mars_Climate_Orbiter> >>> >> >> We have all heard of that fiasco, but it's just another example of lax >> engineering practice. >> >> As a university student, I attended a US school of engineering and a good >> portion of the curriculum was devoted to unit conversions. In each >> and every >> class, there were constant and tedious unit conversion drills to the >> point >> that I became absolutely sick of them. > > LOL. We never spent even a second on it. Not even mentioned. > No,. One begins to wonder exactly what your education DID consist of >> >> But unit conversions are especially important in the US where US >> customary >> units exist side by side with SI (metric) units. >> >> In the US chemical engineering, for example, one does ever mention a >> "mole" >> but only a pound-mole, lb-mol, or a gram-mole, g-mole. >> So the NASA fiasco was due to only to the lack of diligence of the >> engineers >> involved. >> > > -- Karl Marx said religion is the opium of the people. But Marxism is the crack cocaine.
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| From | "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-10-20 21:11 +0200 |
| Subject | Re: Metric vs. US/Imperial |
| Message-ID | <jvqkqmxepk.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> |
| In reply to | #94401 |
On 2026-10-20 15:22, The Natural Philosopher wrote: > On 20/10/2026 09:37, Carlos E.R. wrote: >> On 2026-10-20 03:52, Leroy H wrote: >>> On Tue, 20 Oct 2026 02:18:52 +0100, Nuno Silva wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> Thankfully, it's not like NASA has ever lost a spacecraft or probe due >>>> to unit mismatches... >>>> >>>> <https://enwp.org/Mars_Climate_Orbiter> >>>> >>> >>> We have all heard of that fiasco, but it's just another example of lax >>> engineering practice. >>> >>> As a university student, I attended a US school of engineering and a >>> good >>> portion of the curriculum was devoted to unit conversions. In each >>> and every >>> class, there were constant and tedious unit conversion drills to the >>> point >>> that I became absolutely sick of them. >> >> LOL. We never spent even a second on it. Not even mentioned. >> > No,. One begins to wonder exactly what your education DID consist of LOL. You must get out more. -- Cheers, Carlos. ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2026-10-20 17:45 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: Metric vs. US/Imperial |
| Message-ID | <njpnmcFei39U55@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #94374 |
On Tue, 20 Oct 2026 01:52:07 +0000, Leroy H wrote: > As a university student, I attended a US school of engineering and a > good portion of the curriculum was devoted to unit conversions. In each > and every class, there were constant and tedious unit conversion drills > to the point that I became absolutely sick of them. I don't remember drills like that. The assumption was if you were there you'd figured out how to do simple conversions. There was one freshman year section that was basically remedial English. This was not aimed at ESL students.
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