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| Started by | CtrlAltDel <Altie@BHam.com> |
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| First post | 2025-12-10 23:49 +0000 |
| Last post | 2025-12-15 23:18 +0000 |
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Please do not donate to any Linux distro CtrlAltDel <Altie@BHam.com> - 2025-12-10 23:49 +0000
Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-12-10 18:54 -0800
Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro CtrlAltDel <Altie@BHam.com> - 2025-12-11 03:41 +0000
Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-11 03:42 +0000
Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-12-10 20:47 -0800
Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2025-12-12 21:50 +0000
Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-13 02:02 +0000
Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2025-12-13 10:01 +0000
Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-13 14:14 +0100
Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-13 20:41 +0000
Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-12-13 16:00 -0800
Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-14 03:11 +0000
Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-15 19:02 +0000
Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-15 23:53 +0000
Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-15 19:01 +0000
Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro Harold Stevens <wookie@aspen.localdomain> - 2025-12-11 03:27 -0600
Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-12-11 08:56 -0800
Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro CtrlAltDel <Altie@BHam.com> - 2025-12-11 18:25 +0000
Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-11 11:26 +0100
Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2025-12-12 06:37 +1000
Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro CtrlAltDel <Altie@BHam.com> - 2025-12-12 05:04 +0000
Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro bonkmaykr <bonkyboo@canithesis.org> - 2025-12-13 09:11 -0600
Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro Beej Jorgensen <beej@beej.us> - 2025-12-13 15:53 +0000
Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-12-16 01:21 +0000
Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-16 12:16 +0000
Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2025-12-17 07:37 +1000
Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-12-16 21:53 +0000
Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2025-12-18 06:54 +1000
Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-12-17 22:13 +0000
Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-17 23:43 +0000
Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-18 01:26 +0000
Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-18 10:07 +0000
Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2025-12-19 08:28 +1000
Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2025-12-19 08:24 +1000
Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-12-19 01:08 +0000
Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-17 13:20 +0000
Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-17 13:57 +0000
Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-17 14:34 +0000
Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-17 20:23 +0000
Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-17 23:41 +0000
Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-18 01:20 +0000
Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-18 10:02 +0000
Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro CtrlAltDel <Altie@BHam.com> - 2025-12-20 07:17 +0000
Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-18 10:01 +0000
Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-18 09:59 +0000
Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2025-12-18 06:43 +1000
Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro kouya <kouyaheika@canithesis.org> - 2025-12-11 16:21 -0600
Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro CtrlAltDel <Altie@BHam.com> - 2025-12-12 05:01 +0000
Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-12 08:43 +0000
Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro kouya <kouyaheika@canithesis.org> - 2025-12-12 14:30 -0600
Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-13 14:16 +0100
Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-12-13 14:03 +0000
Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-14 00:03 +0100
Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-14 03:18 +0000
Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-12-13 20:36 -0800
Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro Eric Pozharski <apple.universe@posteo.net> - 2025-12-14 16:51 +0000
Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-12-14 11:36 -0800
Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-14 20:56 +0000
Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-15 19:07 +0000
Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-12-16 05:54 +0000
Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro bonkmaykr <bonkymaykr@canithesis.org> - 2025-12-16 07:40 -0600
Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-16 14:33 +0000
Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-16 20:42 +0000
Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-17 01:05 +0000
Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-12-17 01:46 +0000
Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-15 19:05 +0000
Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-12-17 01:43 +0000
Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro bonkmaykr <bonkyboo@canithesis.org> - 2025-12-12 15:48 -0600
Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-12 23:46 +0000
Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-13 14:26 +0100
Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro bonkmaykr <bonkyboo@canithesis.org> - 2025-12-13 07:38 -0600
Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-12-13 14:08 +0000
Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-12-17 01:41 +0000
Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-12-17 08:01 -0800
Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2025-12-19 14:50 +0000
Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-19 18:05 +0000
Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro Farley Flud <fflud@gnu.rocks> - 2025-12-13 14:56 +0000
Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-12-13 15:52 +0000
Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-13 18:00 +0000
Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-12-17 01:37 +0000
Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-14 00:10 +0100
Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-12-14 12:03 +0000
Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro CtrlAltDel <Altie@BHam.com> - 2025-12-14 10:41 +0000
Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro bonkmaykr <bonkyboo@canithesis.org> - 2025-12-14 06:23 -0600
Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-14 13:27 +0100
Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-14 18:26 +0000
Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro CtrlAltDel <Altie@BHam.com> - 2025-12-13 09:33 +0000
Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-13 10:54 +0000
Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-13 14:28 +0100
Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-12-13 14:09 +0000
Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-14 00:11 +0100
Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-12-13 13:56 +0000
Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro CtrlAltDel <Altie@BHam.com> - 2025-12-14 10:52 +0000
Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro bonkmaykr <bonkyboo@canithesis.org> - 2025-12-14 06:25 -0600
Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-12-14 13:50 +0000
Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro CtrlAltDel <Altie@BHam.com> - 2025-12-15 00:18 +0000
Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro bonkmaykr <bonkyboo@canithesis.org> - 2025-12-15 10:40 -0600
Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro CtrlAltDel <Altie@BHam.com> - 2025-12-15 21:12 +0000
Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro bonkmaykr <bonkyboo@canithesis.org> - 2025-12-15 15:41 -0600
Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro CtrlAltDel <Altie@BHam.com> - 2025-12-15 23:02 +0000
Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro bonkmaykr <bonkyboo@canithesis.org> - 2025-12-15 17:09 -0600
Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro CtrlAltDel <Altie@BHam.com> - 2025-12-15 23:23 +0000
Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro bonkmaykr <bonkymaykr@canithesis.org> - 2025-12-15 20:58 -0600
Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro CtrlAltDel <Altie@BHam.com> - 2025-12-16 11:25 +0000
Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro bonkmaykr <bonkymaykr@canithesis.org> - 2025-12-16 07:35 -0600
Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro CtrlAltDel <Altie@BHam.com> - 2025-12-17 01:09 +0000
Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro bonkmaykr <bonkymaykr@canithesis.org> - 2025-12-17 08:11 -0600
Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-17 14:37 +0000
Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro bonkmaykr <bonkymaykr@canithesis.org> - 2025-12-17 09:02 -0600
Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro CtrlAltDel <Altie@BHam.com> - 2025-12-18 01:39 +0000
Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-12-19 20:27 +0000
Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-15 19:11 +0000
Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro CtrlAltDel <Altie@BHam.com> - 2025-12-15 20:51 +0000
Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-12-17 01:34 +0000
Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2025-12-13 23:18 +0800
Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro John McCue <jmclnx@gmail.com.invalid> - 2025-12-15 16:05 +0000
Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-12-15 08:53 -0800
Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro 🇵🇱Jacek Marcin Jaworski🇵🇱 <jmj@energokod.gda.pl> - 2025-12-15 18:46 +0100
Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro CtrlAltDel <Altie@BHam.com> - 2025-12-15 20:54 +0000
Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-15 21:32 +0000
Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro CtrlAltDel <Altie@BHam.com> - 2025-12-15 23:06 +0000
Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro Diego Garcia <dg@linux.rocks> - 2025-12-15 21:34 +0000
Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-15 21:35 +0000
Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro CtrlAltDel <Altie@BHam.com> - 2025-12-15 23:07 +0000
Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-12-19 20:32 +0000
Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro 🇵🇱Jacek Marcin Jaworski🇵🇱 <jmj@energokod.gda.pl> - 2025-12-15 22:42 +0100
Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-12-15 14:09 -0800
Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro 🇵🇱Jacek Marcin Jaworski🇵🇱 <jmj@energokod.gda.pl> - 2025-12-15 23:38 +0100
Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-12-15 14:41 -0800
Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro kouya <kouyaheika@canithesis.org> - 2025-12-15 16:45 -0600
Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-12-15 14:55 -0800
Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro bonkmaykr <bonkyboo@canithesis.org> - 2025-12-15 17:10 -0600
Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro CtrlAltDel <Altie@BHam.com> - 2025-12-15 23:27 +0000
Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-12-19 20:30 +0000
Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-12-19 12:35 -0800
Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro CtrlAltDel <Altie@BHam.com> - 2025-12-15 23:18 +0000
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| From | CtrlAltDel <Altie@BHam.com> |
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| Date | 2025-12-10 23:49 +0000 |
| Subject | Please do not donate to any Linux distro |
| Message-ID | <10hd0v5$1qp6n$1@dont-email.me> |
Linux is supposed to be free, not free with constant nags about donating. If you want to donate, go buy a Windows release and donate your money to them. As far as Linux goes, the whole concept behind it and the various distros is that it is free. Free, as in no money needed to use. Not free as in it's free to use but we are going to pester you to no end to donate to keep it free. If the maintainers of the distros can't afford to maintain them, let 'em die off. There are around 600 distributions currently maintained with about 500 of them still in active development. There are many, many options for freedom. When Linux first arrived on the scene, it would have been almost literal apostasy among the nerd fiefdoms online if someone had asked them for money and they would have abandoned it faster than an eye could blink. Now it's almost like a guilt trip is played on you if you don't *donate*. Let's go back to how it was years ago and bring the purity back to Linux, the FREEdom, the excitement. Down with the commercialization.
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| From | Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> |
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| Date | 2025-12-10 18:54 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <10hdbpa$1ul7a$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #78724 |
You are overly sensitive to requests for donations and unrealistic about the expense associated with creating and maintaining a distribution. This is not commercialization as it creates no profit. On 12/10/25 15:49, CtrlAltDel wrote: > Linux is supposed to be free, not free with constant nags about donating. > If you want to donate, go buy a Windows release and donate your money to > them. > > As far as Linux goes, the whole concept behind it and the various distros > is that it is free. Free, as in no money needed to use. Not free as in > it's free to use but we are going to pester you to no end to donate to > keep it free. > > If the maintainers of the distros can't afford to maintain them, let 'em > die off. There are around 600 distributions currently maintained with > about 500 of them still in active development. There are many, many > options for freedom. > > When Linux first arrived on the scene, it would have been almost literal > apostasy among the nerd fiefdoms online if someone had asked them for > money and they would have abandoned it faster than an eye could blink. It is GNU/Linux and formerly young and maniac coders are older now, need more acetaminophen and a new disk drive. As well as coffee. > > Now it's almost like a guilt trip is played on you if you don't *donate*. > Let's go back to how it was years ago and bring the purity back to Linux, > the FREEdom, the excitement. Down with the commercialization. Foolish idealist. Stop wasting your money on other than computing. bliss- Dell Precision 7730- PCLOS 2025.12 Linux 6.12.60-pclos1- KDE Plasma 6.5.3
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| From | CtrlAltDel <Altie@BHam.com> |
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| Date | 2025-12-11 03:41 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <10hdeh3$1v3pm$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #78736 |
On Wed, 10 Dec 2025 18:54:33 -0800, Bobbie Sellers wrote: > You are overly sensitive to requests for donations and unrealistic about > the expense associated with creating and maintaining a distribution. > This is not commercialization as it creates no profit. Money, give us money, money, money, money so that we can keep your favorite distro free. :-) Right, it's not commercialization and it's not about money at all, just donate and please donate often. A lot of televangelists that come on late at night also want money, money, money, and it's also not about money but about the salvation of your soul and not all about their personal enrichment. >It is GNU/Linux and formerly young and maniac coders are older now, > need more acetaminophen and a new disk drive. As well as coffee. Sounds like a personal issue for them. >Foolish idealist. Stop wasting your money on other than computing. I don't waste money at all, and certainly not on something as frivolous as home computing. That was kind of the point of the post.
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2025-12-11 03:42 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <mpusspF2tucU2@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #78736 |
On Wed, 10 Dec 2025 18:54:33 -0800, Bobbie Sellers wrote: > You are overly sensitive to requests for donations and unrealistic about > the expense associated with creating and maintaining a distribution. > This is not commercialization as it creates no profit. Some people have reported getting a KDE popup suggesting a donation. I've got KDE on two machines and haven't seen it although I did throw them a few bucks. I am getting a little weary of everyone with their hand out this time of year.
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| From | Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> |
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| Date | 2025-12-10 20:47 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <10hdidd$200j5$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #78745 |
On 12/10/25 19:42, rbowman wrote: > On Wed, 10 Dec 2025 18:54:33 -0800, Bobbie Sellers wrote: > >> You are overly sensitive to requests for donations and unrealistic about >> the expense associated with creating and maintaining a distribution. >> This is not commercialization as it creates no profit. > > Some people have reported getting a KDE popup suggesting a donation. I've > got KDE on two machines and haven't seen it although I did throw them a > few bucks. > > I am getting a little weary of everyone with their hand out this time of > year. Well I have seen it but as my living expenses are way up since I got out of the hospital in April I cannot afford any more donations. I donate to PCLinuxOS and to Thunderbird and PBS. Thunderbird forgets from one month to the next that I donate. If I could squeeze out more money it would likely go on debts accumulated since my surgery(Ankle Fusion) in January. Every day I get solicitations from various politicians which are impossible for me to deal with so I unsubscribe to any but local and state campaigns. When not in the mood to unsubcribe I just delete those emails. I do not consider "home computing" to be frivolous though perhaps it is. I used to ride motorcycles and they were expensive and perhaps totally frivolous but it was great before I turned 46 and lost the ability to work for a living. Then one day I realized that the expense associated with insurance and parking were meals I was not eating and so I got rid of the bike and saved a fair amount of income by doing so. bliss- Dell Precision 7730- PCLOS 2025.12 Linux 6.12.60-pclos1- KDE Plasma 6.5.3 bliss
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| From | candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> |
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| Date | 2025-12-12 21:50 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <slrn10jp318.1p7ru.candycanearter07@candydeb.host.invalid> |
| In reply to | #78745 |
rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote at 03:42 this Thursday (GMT): > On Wed, 10 Dec 2025 18:54:33 -0800, Bobbie Sellers wrote: > >> You are overly sensitive to requests for donations and unrealistic about >> the expense associated with creating and maintaining a distribution. >> This is not commercialization as it creates no profit. > > Some people have reported getting a KDE popup suggesting a donation. I've > got KDE on two machines and haven't seen it although I did throw them a > few bucks. > > I am getting a little weary of everyone with their hand out this time of > year. 'tis the season? -- user <candycane> is generated from /dev/urandom
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2025-12-13 02:02 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <mq3vpcFsp02U2@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #78953 |
On Fri, 12 Dec 2025 21:50:03 -0000 (UTC), candycanearter07 wrote: > rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote at 03:42 this Thursday (GMT): >> On Wed, 10 Dec 2025 18:54:33 -0800, Bobbie Sellers wrote: >> >>> You are overly sensitive to requests for donations and unrealistic >>> about the expense associated with creating and maintaining a >>> distribution. This is not commercialization as it creates no profit. >> >> Some people have reported getting a KDE popup suggesting a donation. >> I've got KDE on two machines and haven't seen it although I did throw >> them a few bucks. >> >> I am getting a little weary of everyone with their hand out this time >> of year. > > > 'tis the season? My Christmas playlist. Bah. Humbug. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qTx-sdR6Yzk 'The Season's Upon Us' Dropkick Murphys https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j9jbdgZidu8 'Fairytale of New York' The Pogues https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Li8GrxE1jfg 'Please Daddy Don't Get Drunk This Christmas' John Denver
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| From | Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> |
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| Date | 2025-12-13 10:01 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <mq4rsbF2u5kU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #78957 |
rbowman wrote: > candycanearter07 wrote: > >> 'tis the season? > > My Christmas playlist. Bah. Humbug. > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qTx-sdR6Yzk > 'The Season's Upon Us' Dropkick Murphys > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j9jbdgZidu8 > 'Fairytale of New York' The Pogues > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Li8GrxE1jfg > 'Please Daddy Don't Get Drunk This Christmas' John Denver The only Christmas song I never seem to tire of, I don't think an official video exists. <https://youtu.be/nud2TQNahaU> 'Christmas Wrapping' The Waitresses
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| From | "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-12-13 14:14 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <jf501mxsuf.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> |
| In reply to | #78977 |
On 2025-12-13 11:01, Andy Burns wrote: > rbowman wrote: > >> candycanearter07 wrote: >> >>> 'tis the season? >> >> My Christmas playlist. Bah. Humbug. >> >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qTx-sdR6Yzk >> 'The Season's Upon Us' Dropkick Murphys >> >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j9jbdgZidu8 >> 'Fairytale of New York' The Pogues >> >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Li8GrxE1jfg >> 'Please Daddy Don't Get Drunk This Christmas' John Denver > The only Christmas song I never seem to tire of, I don't think an > official video exists. > > <https://youtu.be/nud2TQNahaU> > 'Christmas Wrapping' The Waitresses > Patricia Jean Donahue was the lead vocalist of the American new wave band the Waitresses, most active in the 1980s. She is best known for the band's singles "I Know What Boys Like" and "Christmas Wrapping". Wikipedia Born: March 29, 1956, Cleveland, Ohio, United States Died: December 9, 1996 (age 40 years), New York, New York, United States Music group: The Waitresses Education: Saint Joseph Academy That youtube has several scenes taken from this: <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1bWUFz73wKM> -- Cheers, Carlos. ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2025-12-13 20:41 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <mq61clF8rseU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #78977 |
On Sat, 13 Dec 2025 10:01:40 +0000, Andy Burns wrote: > The only Christmas song I never seem to tire of, I don't think an > official video exists. > > <https://youtu.be/nud2TQNahaU> > 'Christmas Wrapping' The Waitresses Never heard that one.
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| From | Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> |
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| Date | 2025-12-13 16:00 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <10hkump$hlon$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #79026 |
On 12/13/25 12:41, rbowman wrote: > On Sat, 13 Dec 2025 10:01:40 +0000, Andy Burns wrote: > >> The only Christmas song I never seem to tire of, I don't think an >> official video exists. >> >> <https://youtu.be/nud2TQNahaU> >> 'Christmas Wrapping' The Waitresses > > Never heard that one. Stan Freberg's "Green Christmas" <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I5IXlfJSEi4> I was in my early 20s and had discovered Ayn Rand. But while I invented the double cheese burger I had not yet attended Nuclear Power School, first I had to go to Taiwan MAAG to work in the hospital for military and dependents. It took me a few years to realize Ayn was an idiot, overly influenced by her bad experiences in Soviet Russia. bliss
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2025-12-14 03:11 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <mq6o6dFcii0U1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #79034 |
On Sat, 13 Dec 2025 16:00:23 -0800, Bobbie Sellers wrote: > Stan Freberg's "Green Christmas" > <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I5IXlfJSEi4> The only thing that has changed is the advertising has become more pervasive. > I was in my early 20s and had discovered Ayn Rand. > But while I invented the double cheese burger I had not yet attended > Nuclear Power School, first I had to go to Taiwan MAAG to work in the > hospital for military and dependents. > It took me a few years to realize Ayn was an idiot, > overly influenced by her bad experiences in Soviet Russia. When I was in high school a girl I thought was sort of hot came in before the class began and wrote “I swear by my life and my love of it that I will never live for the sake of another man, nor ask another man to live for mine.” Heady stuff, when you're 15. I eventually read the book and realized Rand needed a really good editor with a supply of blue pencils. Much later I watched the three part series. I was disconcerting since the entire cast was different in each as the actors realized they were doing their careers irreparable harm and moved on. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/It_Usually_Begins_with_Ayn_Rand was humorous, at least at the time. By the time I was out of high school the whole Rand/Branden/Objectivist clown show was falling apart. Her fiction was mildly interesting but when she tried her hand at philosophy she was way out of her field. I found it annoying she would never admit the influence of Striner and Nietzsche while parroting 'A is A' endlessly.
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| From | The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-12-15 19:02 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <10hpm0j$24636$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #79034 |
On 14/12/2025 00:00, Bobbie Sellers wrote: > It took me a few years to realize Ayn was an idiot, > overly influenced by her bad experiences in Soviet Russia. People told me I ought to read her, but I never did. -- It is the folly of too many to mistake the echo of a London coffee-house for the voice of the kingdom. Jonathan Swift
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2025-12-15 23:53 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <mqblccF70clU4@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #79191 |
On Mon, 15 Dec 2025 19:02:43 +0000, The Natural Philosopher wrote: > On 14/12/2025 00:00, Bobbie Sellers wrote: >> It took me a few years to realize Ayn was an idiot, >> overly influenced by her bad experiences in Soviet Russia. > > People told me I ought to read her, but I never did. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Fountainhead_(film) That sums her up well and it's less than 2 hours out of your life. Do not under any circumstances try to watch the three part adaptation of 'Atlas Shrugged' or read any of her non-fiction when she pretends to be a philosopher.
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| From | The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-12-15 19:01 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <10hplus$24636$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #78977 |
On 13/12/2025 10:01, Andy Burns wrote: > rbowman wrote: > >> candycanearter07 wrote: >> >>> 'tis the season? >> >> My Christmas playlist. Bah. Humbug. >> >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qTx-sdR6Yzk >> 'The Season's Upon Us' Dropkick Murphys >> >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j9jbdgZidu8 >> 'Fairytale of New York' The Pogues >> >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Li8GrxE1jfg >> 'Please Daddy Don't Get Drunk This Christmas' John Denver > The only Christmas song I never seem to tire of, I don't think an > official video exists. > > <https://youtu.be/nud2TQNahaU> > 'Christmas Wrapping' The Waitresses > Sounds like Blondie with a better bass player. Immediately forgettable -- It is the folly of too many to mistake the echo of a London coffee-house for the voice of the kingdom. Jonathan Swift
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| From | Harold Stevens <wookie@aspen.localdomain> |
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| Date | 2025-12-11 03:27 -0600 |
| Message-ID | <slrn10jl3jt.2iaq.wookie@aspen.localdomain> |
| In reply to | #78736 |
In <10hdbpa$1ul7a$1@dont-email.me> Bobbie Sellers: > You are overly sensitive to requests for donations and unrealistic about > the expense associated with creating and maintaining a distribution. > This is not commercialization as it creates no profit. > > On 12/10/25 15:49, CtrlAltDel wrote: [Snip...] CAD is a boring troll, going back years, that I plonked long ago. Jez sayin' ... -- Regards, Weird (Harold Stevens) * IMPORTANT EMAIL INFO FOLLOWS * Pardon any bogus email addresses (wookie) in place for spambots. Really, it's (wyrd) at att, dotted with net. * DO NOT SPAM IT. * I toss (404) GoogleGroup (404 http://twovoyagers.com/improve-usenet.org/).
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| From | Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> |
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| Date | 2025-12-11 08:56 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <10het3c$2bkh8$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #78773 |
On 12/11/25 01:27, Harold Stevens wrote: > In <10hdbpa$1ul7a$1@dont-email.me> Bobbie Sellers: > >> You are overly sensitive to requests for donations and unrealistic about >> the expense associated with creating and maintaining a distribution. >> This is not commercialization as it creates no profit. >> >> On 12/10/25 15:49, CtrlAltDel wrote: > > [Snip...] > > CAD is a boring troll, going back years, that I plonked long ago. Jez sayin' ... > Thanks for the advice, Harold. bliss- Dell Precision 7730- PCLOS 2025.12 Linux 6.12.60-pclos1- KDE Plasma 6.5.4
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| From | CtrlAltDel <Altie@BHam.com> |
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| Date | 2025-12-11 18:25 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <10hf2b7$2d9ug$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #78814 |
On Thu, 11 Dec 2025 08:56:12 -0800, Bobbie Sellers wrote: >Thanks for the advice, Harold. Don't believe everything you read, Bobbie. I've never had any interaction with this person named Harold and have no idea who he is. Perhaps he has me confused with another poster.
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| From | "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-12-11 11:26 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <2siq0mxsfg.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> |
| In reply to | #78724 |
On 2025-12-11 00:49, CtrlAltDel wrote: > Linux is supposed to be free, not free with constant nags about donating. > If you want to donate, go buy a Windows release and donate your money to > them. Just because you say it, I'm tempted to donate. :-P -- Cheers, Carlos. ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;
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| From | not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) |
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| Date | 2025-12-12 06:37 +1000 |
| Message-ID | <693b2b9f@news.ausics.net> |
| In reply to | #78724 |
CtrlAltDel <Altie@bham.com> wrote: > Linux is supposed to be free, not free with constant nags about donating. > If you want to donate, go buy a Windows release and donate your money to > them. > > As far as Linux goes, the whole concept behind it and the various distros > is that it is free. Free, as in no money needed to use. Not free as in > it's free to use but we are going to pester you to no end to donate to > keep it free. Tiny Core Linux for one not only doesn't ask for monetary donations, but even has a policy not to accept them: https://forum.tinycorelinux.net/index.php/topic,3977.msg20811.html But of course the Linux kernel project itself will happily take your money, so if you _really_ don't like donations then you're using the wrong OS. Although I don't know what the right one would be, probably one with very few hardware drivers available. > Now it's almost like a guilt trip is played on you if you don't *donate*. > Let's go back to how it was years ago and bring the purity back to Linux, > the FREEdom, the excitement. Down with the commercialization. All else being equal I prefer a software project which doesn't get or ask for lots of donations. For one thing it means the authors are passionately trying to build something they want to use themselves, rather than returning to the conventional motivation of chasing the money. The former often results in more focused design decisions that I prefer. Others prefer software that does try to clone commercial offerings, like LibreOffice, though. -- __ __ #_ < |\| |< _#
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