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| Started by | Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> |
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| First post | 2025-08-19 00:57 +0000 |
| Last post | 2025-08-21 10:55 +0100 |
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This Linux Distro Puts More Than 20 Desktops A Click Away Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-19 00:57 +0000
Re: This Linux Distro Puts More Than 20 Desktops A Click Away 🇵🇱Jacek Marcin Jaworski🇵🇱 <jaworski1978@adres.pl> - 2025-08-19 06:12 +0200
Re: This Linux Distro Puts More Than 20 Desktops A Click Away 🇵🇱Jacek Marcin Jaworski🇵🇱 <jaworski1978@adres.pl> - 2025-08-19 06:33 +0200
Re: This Linux Distro Puts More Than 20 Desktops A Click Away Woozy Song <suzyw0ng@outlook.com> - 2025-08-19 19:59 +0800
Re: This Linux Distro Puts More Than 20 Desktops A Click Away Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-19 21:30 +0000
Re: This Linux Distro Puts More Than 20 Desktops A Click Away Robert Heller <heller@deepsoft.com> - 2025-08-19 22:45 +0000
Re: This Linux Distro Puts More Than 20 Desktops A Click Away Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-08-19 17:59 -0700
Re: This Linux Distro Puts More Than 20 Desktops A Click Away Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-20 09:39 +0100
Re: This Linux Distro Puts More Than 20 Desktops A Click Away rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-20 18:38 +0000
Re: This Linux Distro Puts More Than 20 Desktops A Click Away John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-08-20 11:54 -0700
Re: This Linux Distro Puts More Than 20 Desktops A Click Away Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-20 09:27 +0100
Re: This Linux Distro Puts More Than 20 Desktops A Click Away "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-20 12:45 +0200
Re: This Linux Distro Puts More Than 20 Desktops A Click Away rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-20 18:34 +0000
Re: This Linux Distro Puts More Than 20 Desktops A Click Away The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-21 10:55 +0100
| From | Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-08-19 00:57 +0000 |
| Subject | This Linux Distro Puts More Than 20 Desktops A Click Away |
| Message-ID | <1080i67$3f9p0$1@dont-email.me> |
From
<https://www.zdnet.com/article/this-linux-distro-puts-more-than-20-desktops-a-click-away/>:
Typically, Sparky defaults to the LXQt desktop, but offers
versions with MATE, Xfce, and KDE Plasma.
and
Remember the Web Browser installer? Sparky gives desktop
environments the same treatment. Go to the app center, click
Desktops, and you'll find 27 different desktops to install, from
Awesom, Budgie, CDE, Cinnamon, Enlightenment, GNOME, i3, MATE,
Openbox, Sway, and more.
All of these are available in Debian, which Sparky is based on.
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| From | 🇵🇱Jacek Marcin Jaworski🇵🇱 <jaworski1978@adres.pl> |
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| Date | 2025-08-19 06:12 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <mgibshFi4vqU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #71597 |
W dniu 19.08.2025 o 02:57, Lawrence D’Oliveiro pisze: > From > <https://www.zdnet.com/article/this-linux-distro-puts-more-than-20-desktops-a-click-away/>: > > Typically, Sparky defaults to the LXQt desktop, but offers > versions with MATE, Xfce, and KDE Plasma. > > and > > Remember the Web Browser installer? Sparky gives desktop > environments the same treatment. Go to the app center, click > Desktops, and you'll find 27 different desktops to install, from > Awesom, Budgie, CDE, Cinnamon, Enlightenment, GNOME, i3, MATE, > Openbox, Sway, and more. > > All of these are available in Debian, which Sparky is based on. I think that set of Sparky Linux distro advantages seems completely ridiculous: installer: Calamares, custom package installer: APTus AppCenter, and mentioned above 20 desktops. It seems to me that the only reason why polish distro Sparky Linux exists is the words-play in polish: Sparky sounds in polish like "szaparki" which mean: "young pussies". For me this distro is completely stupid polish idea, because I never hear about any "polish szparki" which were interested in learning Linux.
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| From | 🇵🇱Jacek Marcin Jaworski🇵🇱 <jaworski1978@adres.pl> |
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| Date | 2025-08-19 06:33 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <mgid55Fi4vrU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #71618 |
W dniu 19.08.2025 o 06:12, 🇵🇱Jacek Marcin Jaworski🇵🇱 pisze: Is:> installer: Calamares should be: Different installer: Calamares Is: > "szaparki" should be: szparki
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| From | Woozy Song <suzyw0ng@outlook.com> |
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| Date | 2025-08-19 19:59 +0800 |
| Message-ID | <1081ovk$3ngfe$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #71597 |
Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote: > From > <https://www.zdnet.com/article/this-linux-distro-puts-more-than-20-desktops-a-click-away/>: > > Typically, Sparky defaults to the LXQt desktop, but offers > versions with MATE, Xfce, and KDE Plasma. > > and > > Remember the Web Browser installer? Sparky gives desktop > environments the same treatment. Go to the app center, click > Desktops, and you'll find 27 different desktops to install, from > Awesom, Budgie, CDE, Cinnamon, Enlightenment, GNOME, i3, MATE, > Openbox, Sway, and more. > > All of these are available in Debian, which Sparky is based on. > and it offers CDE for those who loved 1990s retro experience
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| From | Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-08-19 21:30 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <1082qct$3v9rn$3@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #71653 |
On Tue, 19 Aug 2025 19:59:48 +0800, Woozy Song wrote: > and it offers CDE for those who loved 1990s retro experience CDE was the pioneer of the concept of multiple desktops. Which was embraced by other *nix GUIs, but it took until much more recently this century before Microsoft and Apple discovered how useful it might be, and tried to copy it.
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| From | Robert Heller <heller@deepsoft.com> |
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| Date | 2025-08-19 22:45 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <1082uqn$hrs$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #71691 |
At Tue, 19 Aug 2025 21:30:05 -0000 (UTC) Lawrence DÿOliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote: > > On Tue, 19 Aug 2025 19:59:48 +0800, Woozy Song wrote: > > > and it offers CDE for those who loved 1990s retro experience > > CDE was the pioneer of the concept of multiple desktops. Which was > embraced by other *nix GUIs, but it took until much more recently this > century before Microsoft and Apple discovered how useful it might be, and > tried to copy it. FVWM2 supports multiple desktops. Actually most Linux desktop environments support multiple desktops. > > -- Robert Heller -- Cell: 413-658-7953 GV: 978-633-5364 Deepwoods Software -- Custom Software Services http://www.deepsoft.com/ -- Linux Administration Services heller@deepsoft.com -- Webhosting Services
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| From | Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> |
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| Date | 2025-08-19 17:59 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <10836lh$3q73f$4@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #71692 |
On 8/19/25 15:45, Robert Heller wrote: > At Tue, 19 Aug 2025 21:30:05 -0000 (UTC) Lawrence DÿOliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote: > >> >> On Tue, 19 Aug 2025 19:59:48 +0800, Woozy Song wrote: >> >>> and it offers CDE for those who loved 1990s retro experience >> >> CDE was the pioneer of the concept of multiple desktops. Which was >> embraced by other *nix GUIs, but it took until much more recently this >> century before Microsoft and Apple discovered how useful it might be, and >> tried to copy it. > > FVWM2 supports multiple desktops. Actually most Linux desktop environments > support multiple desktops. > Yep! In 2006 my Mandriva 2006 used and shipped multiple desktops on the same Set of CDS. I know because I used my "Great Quality" (it died in 3.5 years) laptop to convert the DVD full of 6 iso file to disks and then installed on half the small drive as a dual boot XP and Mandriva laptop. Shortly after I started with Mandriva my A200b with the 68060 at 50 GHx died and I was forced into the use of Thunderbird and Fidrefox at the time both products of Mozzila. The Amiga was more fun but with the company out of business and no resolution to the bankruptcy proceedeing in sight it seemed a sensible move. Oh and the destops it supported were KDE, Mate and I believe XFCE. bliss- Dell Precision 7730- PCLOS 2025.08- Linux 6.12.42-pclos1- KDE Plasma 6.4.4
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| From | Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-08-20 09:39 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <10841ja$7efa$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #71692 |
On 2025-08-19, Robert Heller wrote: > At Tue, 19 Aug 2025 21:30:05 -0000 (UTC) Lawrence DÿOliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote: > >> >> On Tue, 19 Aug 2025 19:59:48 +0800, Woozy Song wrote: >> >> > and it offers CDE for those who loved 1990s retro experience >> >> CDE was the pioneer of the concept of multiple desktops. Which was >> embraced by other *nix GUIs, but it took until much more recently this >> century before Microsoft and Apple discovered how useful it might be, and >> tried to copy it. > > FVWM2 supports multiple desktops. Actually most Linux desktop environments > support multiple desktops. I think I've only used more intensively one desktop environment which lacked multiple desktops at least out of the box, and that did become quite a limitation. Its name was EXPLORER.EXE. (Wasn't there a "powertoy" for Windows 4 (or maybe NT 5.x) to add multiple/virtual desktops?) -- Nuno Silva
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2025-08-20 18:38 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <mgmj1gF93agU3@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #71719 |
On Wed, 20 Aug 2025 09:39:06 +0100, Nuno Silva wrote: > On 2025-08-19, Robert Heller wrote: > >> At Tue, 19 Aug 2025 21:30:05 -0000 (UTC) Lawrence DÿOliveiro >> <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote: >> >> >>> On Tue, 19 Aug 2025 19:59:48 +0800, Woozy Song wrote: >>> >>> > and it offers CDE for those who loved 1990s retro experience >>> >>> CDE was the pioneer of the concept of multiple desktops. Which was >>> embraced by other *nix GUIs, but it took until much more recently this >>> century before Microsoft and Apple discovered how useful it might be, >>> and tried to copy it. >> >> FVWM2 supports multiple desktops. Actually most Linux desktop >> environments support multiple desktops. > > I think I've only used more intensively one desktop environment which > lacked multiple desktops at least out of the box, and that did become > quite a limitation. Its name was EXPLORER.EXE. > > (Wasn't there a "powertoy" for Windows 4 (or maybe NT 5.x) to add > multiple/virtual desktops?) There was one for Windows 7 but iirc it was a third party offering and not part of a PowerToy release. It wasn't great but I did use it.
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| From | John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2025-08-20 11:54 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <20250820115433.00004a55@gmail.com> |
| In reply to | #71773 |
On 20 Aug 2025 18:38:40 GMT rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote: > > (Wasn't there a "powertoy" for Windows 4 (or maybe NT 5.x) to add > > multiple/virtual desktops?) > > There was one for Windows 7 but iirc it was a third party offering > and not part of a PowerToy release. It wasn't great but I did use it. Yeah, I used one on XP for years. Better than not having it, but you could tell it was a bolt-on and less than perfectly seamless.
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| From | Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-08-20 09:27 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <10840tb$7efa$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #71597 |
On 2025-08-19, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote: > From > <https://www.zdnet.com/article/this-linux-distro-puts-more-than-20-desktops-a-click-away/>: > > Typically, Sparky defaults to the LXQt desktop, but offers > versions with MATE, Xfce, and KDE Plasma. > > and > > Remember the Web Browser installer? Sparky gives desktop > environments the same treatment. Go to the app center, click > Desktops, and you'll find 27 different desktops to install, from > Awesom, Budgie, CDE, Cinnamon, Enlightenment, GNOME, i3, MATE, > Openbox, Sway, and more. > > All of these are available in Debian, which Sparky is based on. ... isn't this exactly how Linux-based distributions usually work? (So perhaps all of them with some exceptions?) You have a bunch of alternatives packaged and you can install and use different ones through the package manager? Or has this changed? -- Nuno Silva
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| From | "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-08-20 12:45 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <hilgnlxjp.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> |
| In reply to | #71718 |
On 2025-08-20 10:27, Nuno Silva wrote: > On 2025-08-19, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote: > >> From >> <https://www.zdnet.com/article/this-linux-distro-puts-more-than-20-desktops-a-click-away/>: >> >> Typically, Sparky defaults to the LXQt desktop, but offers >> versions with MATE, Xfce, and KDE Plasma. >> >> and >> >> Remember the Web Browser installer? Sparky gives desktop >> environments the same treatment. Go to the app center, click >> Desktops, and you'll find 27 different desktops to install, from >> Awesom, Budgie, CDE, Cinnamon, Enlightenment, GNOME, i3, MATE, >> Openbox, Sway, and more. >> >> All of these are available in Debian, which Sparky is based on. > > ... isn't this exactly how Linux-based distributions usually work? (So > perhaps all of them with some exceptions?) You have a bunch of > alternatives packaged and you can install and use different ones through > the package manager? > > Or has this changed? openSUSE does that. It has a bunch of desktops and you can install any. In fact, each user can have his own choice. I don't have the complete list. Maybe, not all named during initial installation. I think initial choice is plasma, gnome, xfce; but then you can install more via patterns. -- Cheers, Carlos.
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2025-08-20 18:34 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <mgmiqaF93agU2@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #71718 |
On Wed, 20 Aug 2025 09:27:23 +0100, Nuno Silva wrote: > On 2025-08-19, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote: > >> From >> <https://www.zdnet.com/article/this-linux-distro-puts-more-than-20- desktops-a-click-away/>: >> >> Typically, Sparky defaults to the LXQt desktop, but offers versions >> with MATE, Xfce, and KDE Plasma. >> >> and >> >> Remember the Web Browser installer? Sparky gives desktop >> environments the same treatment. Go to the app center, click >> Desktops, and you'll find 27 different desktops to install, from >> Awesom, Budgie, CDE, Cinnamon, Enlightenment, GNOME, i3, MATE, >> Openbox, Sway, and more. >> >> All of these are available in Debian, which Sparky is based on. > > ... isn't this exactly how Linux-based distributions usually work? (So > perhaps all of them with some exceptions?) You have a bunch of > alternatives packaged and you can install and use different ones through > the package manager? Years ago when I first used Ubuntu I wasn't impressed by GNOME and installed KDE. It worked, sort of, but there was a bit of fragility. Since then I've stuck with the distro with the DE I wanted, Fedora KDE, Lubuntu, etc. > > Or has this changed? I think it's gotten smoother if you want multiple DEs. There was one distro that came with just about every DE just in case you want a different one every day.
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| From | The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-08-21 10:55 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <1086qe5$rgpt$12@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #71772 |
On 20/08/2025 19:34, rbowman wrote: > Years ago when I first used Ubuntu I wasn't impressed by GNOME and > installed KDE. It worked, sort of, but there was a bit of fragility. > Since then I've stuck with the distro with the DE I wanted, Fedora KDE, > Lubuntu, etc. Whereas I moved to Mint Mate. *shrug*. whatever -- Civilization exists by geological consent, subject to change without notice. – Will Durant
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