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| Started by | Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> |
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| First post | 2025-12-23 22:51 +0000 |
| Last post | 2025-12-29 13:29 +0000 |
| Articles | 20 on this page of 195 — 22 participants |
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Lubuntu vs. Xubuntu: Which Ubuntu flavor is right for you - my expert advice Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-12-23 22:51 +0000
Re: Lubuntu vs. Xubuntu: Which Ubuntu flavor is right for you - my expert advice kouya <kouyaheika@canithesis.org> - 2025-12-24 06:27 -0600
Re: Lubuntu vs. Xubuntu: Which Ubuntu flavor is right for you - my expert advice The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-24 13:24 +0000
Re: Lubuntu vs. Xubuntu: Which Ubuntu flavor is right for you - my expert advice Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-12-24 19:08 +0000
Re: Lubuntu vs. Xubuntu: Which Ubuntu flavor is right for you - my expert advice rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-25 02:21 +0000
Re: Lubuntu vs. Xubuntu: Which Ubuntu flavor is right for you - my expert advice c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-24 21:35 -0500
Re: Lubuntu vs. Xubuntu: Which Ubuntu flavor is right for you - my expert advice John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-12-26 09:06 -0800
Re: Lubuntu vs. Xubuntu: Which Ubuntu flavor is right for you - my expert advice rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-26 18:38 +0000
Re: Lubuntu vs. Xubuntu: Which Ubuntu flavor is right for you - my expert advice John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-12-26 11:53 -0800
Re: Lubuntu vs. Xubuntu: Which Ubuntu flavor is right for you - my expert advice Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-12-26 23:15 +0000
Re: Lubuntu vs. Xubuntu: Which Ubuntu flavor is right for you - my expert advice c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-26 22:49 -0500
Re: Lubuntu vs. Xubuntu: Which Ubuntu flavor is right for you - my expert advice The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-27 12:52 +0000
Re: Lubuntu vs. Xubuntu: Which Ubuntu flavor is right for you - my expert advice Jim Jackson <jj@franjam.org.uk> - 2026-01-06 23:09 +0000
Re: Lubuntu vs. Xubuntu: Which Ubuntu flavor is right for you - my expert advice John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-01-06 15:25 -0800
Re: Lubuntu vs. Xubuntu: Which Ubuntu flavor is right for you - my expert advice Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> - 2025-12-26 20:49 +0000
Re: Lubuntu vs. Xubuntu: Which Ubuntu flavor is right for you - my expert advice rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-27 03:56 +0000
Re: Lubuntu vs. Xubuntu: Which Ubuntu flavor is right for you - my expert advice Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-12-26 20:37 -0800
Re: Lubuntu vs. Xubuntu: Which Ubuntu flavor is right for you - my expert advice Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-12-27 05:59 +0000
Re: Lubuntu vs. Xubuntu: Which Ubuntu flavor is right for you - my expert advice rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-27 08:51 +0000
Re: Lubuntu vs. Xubuntu: Which Ubuntu flavor is right for you - my expert advice Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-27 09:13 +0000
Re: Lubuntu vs. Xubuntu: Which Ubuntu flavor is right for you - my expert advice rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-27 23:01 +0000
X11 forks (was: Re: Lubuntu vs. Xubuntu: Which Ubuntu flavor is right for you - my expert advice) Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-28 10:43 +0000
Re: X11 forks (was: Re: Lubuntu vs. Xubuntu: Which Ubuntu flavor is right for you - my expert advice) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-29 03:35 +0000
Re: X11 forks Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> - 2025-12-29 18:14 +1000
Re: X11 forks c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-29 03:28 -0500
Re: X11 forks not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2025-12-30 07:30 +1000
Re: X11 forks "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-30 09:33 +0100
Re: X11 forks Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-12-30 08:47 +0000
Re: X11 forks "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-30 14:46 +0100
Wayland hardware requirements (was: Re: X11 forks) Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-31 09:25 +0000
Re: Wayland hardware requirements The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-31 12:12 +0000
Re: Wayland hardware requirements not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2026-01-01 07:31 +1000
Re: X11 forks rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-31 03:19 +0000
Re: X11 forks "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-31 11:50 +0100
Re: X11 forks The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-31 12:09 +0000
Re: X11 forks "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-31 18:48 +0100
Re: X11 forks Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-12-31 20:59 +0000
Re: X11 forks "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-01-01 02:51 +0100
Re: X11 forks Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-01 02:33 +0000
Re: X11 forks rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-01 06:01 +0000
Re: X11 forks rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-01 03:10 +0000
Re: X11 forks Harold Stevens <wookie@aspen.localdomain> - 2026-01-01 04:04 -0600
Re: X11 forks The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-01 13:10 +0000
Re: X11 forks "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-01-01 14:28 +0100
Re: X11 forks The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-01 14:00 +0000
Re: X11 forks Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-01 19:12 +0000
Re: X11 forks vallor <vallor@vallor.earth> - 2026-01-02 04:15 +0000
Re: X11 forks rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-31 19:54 +0000
Re: X11 forks John-Paul Stewart <jpstewart@personalprojects.net> - 2025-12-31 14:28 -0500
Re: X11 forks "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-31 20:43 +0100
Re: X11 forks rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-31 20:00 +0000
Re: X11 forks The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-31 22:58 +0000
Re: X11 forks rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-01 02:56 +0000
Re: X11 forks The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-31 22:45 +0000
Re: X11 forks rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-30 02:20 +0000
Re: Lubuntu vs. Xubuntu: Which Ubuntu flavor is right for you - my expert advice Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-27 09:48 +0000
Re: Lubuntu vs. Xubuntu: Which Ubuntu flavor is right for you - my expert advice c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-27 06:22 -0500
Re: Lubuntu vs. Xubuntu: Which Ubuntu flavor is right for you - my expert advice The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-27 12:55 +0000
Re: Lubuntu vs. Xubuntu: Which Ubuntu flavor is right for you - my expert advice c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-27 11:50 -0500
Re: Lubuntu vs. Xubuntu: Which Ubuntu flavor is right for you - my expert advice The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-27 18:20 +0000
Re: Lubuntu vs. Xubuntu: Which Ubuntu flavor is right for you - my expert advice c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-27 22:33 -0500
Re: Lubuntu vs. Xubuntu: Which Ubuntu flavor is right for you - my expert advice rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-29 03:40 +0000
Re: Lubuntu vs. Xubuntu: Which Ubuntu flavor is right for you - my expert advice c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-29 00:50 -0500
Re: Lubuntu vs. Xubuntu: Which Ubuntu flavor is right for you - my expert advice The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-29 13:31 +0000
Re: Lubuntu vs. Xubuntu: Which Ubuntu flavor is right for you - my expert advice rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-27 22:55 +0000
Re: Lubuntu vs. Xubuntu: Which Ubuntu flavor is right for you - my expert advice The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-27 23:35 +0000
Re: Lubuntu vs. Xubuntu: Which Ubuntu flavor is right for you - my expert advice Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-12-27 13:29 +0000
Re: Lubuntu vs. Xubuntu: Which Ubuntu flavor is right for you - my expert advice c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-27 11:53 -0500
Re: Lubuntu vs. Xubuntu: Which Ubuntu flavor is right for you - my expert advice Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-12-27 21:32 +0000
Re: Lubuntu vs. Xubuntu: Which Ubuntu flavor is right for you - my expert advice The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-27 12:54 +0000
Re: Lubuntu vs. Xubuntu: Which Ubuntu flavor is right for you - my expert advice rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-27 22:52 +0000
Re: Lubuntu vs. Xubuntu: Which Ubuntu flavor is right for you - my expert advice "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-28 14:11 +0100
Re: Lubuntu vs. Xubuntu: Which Ubuntu flavor is right for you - my expert advice The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-28 13:35 +0000
Re: Lubuntu vs. Xubuntu: Which Ubuntu flavor is right for you - my expert advice c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-27 01:05 -0500
Re: Lubuntu vs. Xubuntu: Which Ubuntu flavor is right for you - my expert advice rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-27 08:59 +0000
Re: Lubuntu vs. Xubuntu: Which Ubuntu flavor is right for you - my expert advice c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-27 04:42 -0500
Re: Lubuntu vs. Xubuntu: Which Ubuntu flavor is right for you - my expert advice rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-27 22:11 +0000
Re: Lubuntu vs. Xubuntu: Which Ubuntu flavor is right for you - my expert advice "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-28 14:05 +0100
Re: Lubuntu vs. Xubuntu: Which Ubuntu flavor is right for you - my expert advice The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-28 13:34 +0000
Re: Lubuntu vs. Xubuntu: Which Ubuntu flavor is right for you - my expert advice rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-29 03:21 +0000
Re: Lubuntu vs. Xubuntu: Which Ubuntu flavor is right for you - my expert advice "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-29 12:58 +0100
Re: Lubuntu vs. Xubuntu: Which Ubuntu flavor is right for you - my expert advice c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-26 22:56 -0500
Re: Lubuntu vs. Xubuntu: Which Ubuntu flavor is right for you - my expert advice The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-27 12:57 +0000
Re: Lubuntu vs. Xubuntu: Which Ubuntu flavor is right for you - my expert advice rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-27 22:31 +0000
Re: Lubuntu vs. Xubuntu: Which Ubuntu flavor is right for you - my expert advice Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> - 2025-12-28 14:33 +0000
Re: Lubuntu vs. Xubuntu: Which Ubuntu flavor is right for you - my expert advice c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-28 12:40 -0500
Re: Lubuntu vs. Xubuntu: Which Ubuntu flavor is right for you - my expert advice The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-28 20:12 +0000
Re: Lubuntu vs. Xubuntu: Which Ubuntu flavor is right for you - my expert advice Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-12-28 21:00 +0000
Re: Lubuntu vs. Xubuntu: Which Ubuntu flavor is right for you - my expert advice "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-28 22:17 +0100
Re: Lubuntu vs. Xubuntu: Which Ubuntu flavor is right for you - my expert advice Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-12-28 22:56 +0000
Service startup errors Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> - 2025-12-29 00:16 +0000
Re: Service startup errors Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-12-29 02:08 +0000
Re: Service startup errors "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-29 03:15 +0100
Re: Service startup errors Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-12-29 03:39 +0000
Re: Service startup errors "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-29 12:59 +0100
Re: Service startup errors c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-28 21:47 -0500
Re: Service startup errors Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-12-30 18:53 +0000
Re: Service startup errors rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-31 03:12 +0000
Re: Service startup errors vallor <vallor@vallor.earth> - 2025-12-31 04:40 +0000
Re: Service startup errors rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-31 08:24 +0000
Re: Service startup errors Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-12-31 18:55 +0000
Re: Service startup errors Robert Riches <spamtrap42@jacob21819.net> - 2026-01-01 04:29 +0000
Re: Service startup errors Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-01 04:38 +0000
Re: Service startup errors Robert Riches <spamtrap42@jacob21819.net> - 2026-01-01 04:58 +0000
Re: Service startup errors The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-01 13:13 +0000
Re: Service startup errors Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-31 09:13 +0000
Re: Service startup errors Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-31 09:53 +0000
Re: Service startup errors Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-31 09:59 +0000
Re: Service startup errors Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-12-31 21:04 +0000
Re: Service startup errors rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-01 02:31 +0000
Re: Service startup errors rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-31 19:49 +0000
Re: Service startup errors Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-12-31 18:55 +0000
Re: Service startup errors rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-31 19:41 +0000
Re: Service startup errors Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-31 20:13 +0000
Re: Lubuntu vs. Xubuntu: Which Ubuntu flavor is right for you - my expert advice "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-29 03:16 +0100
Re: Lubuntu vs. Xubuntu: Which Ubuntu flavor is right for you - my expert advice Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-12-29 03:49 +0000
Re: Lubuntu vs. Xubuntu: Which Ubuntu flavor is right for you - my expert advice c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-29 01:00 -0500
Re: Lubuntu vs. Xubuntu: Which Ubuntu flavor is right for you - my expert advice The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-29 13:12 +0000
Re: Lubuntu vs. Xubuntu: Which Ubuntu flavor is right for you - my expert advice "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-29 13:04 +0100
Re: Lubuntu vs. Xubuntu: Which Ubuntu flavor is right for you - my expert advice Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-12-30 19:14 +0000
Re: Lubuntu vs. Xubuntu: Which Ubuntu flavor is right for you - my expert advice "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-30 22:43 +0100
Re: Lubuntu vs. Xubuntu: Which Ubuntu flavor is right for you - my expert advice Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-12-30 22:09 +0000
Re: Lubuntu vs. Xubuntu: Which Ubuntu flavor is right for you - my expert advice "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-30 23:24 +0100
Re: Lubuntu vs. Xubuntu: Which Ubuntu flavor is right for you - my expert advice Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-12-30 22:12 +0000
Re: Lubuntu vs. Xubuntu: Which Ubuntu flavor is right for you - my expert advice "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-30 23:27 +0100
Re: Lubuntu vs. Xubuntu: Which Ubuntu flavor is right for you - my expert advice Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-12-30 22:29 +0000
Re: Lubuntu vs. Xubuntu: Which Ubuntu flavor is right for you - my expert advice "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-31 11:59 +0100
Re: Lubuntu vs. Xubuntu: Which Ubuntu flavor is right for you - my expert advice c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-26 22:45 -0500
Re: Lubuntu vs. Xubuntu: Which Ubuntu flavor is right for you - my expert advice The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-25 03:26 +0000
How distros can get choosen by chance (was: Re: Lubuntu vs. Xubuntu: Which Ubuntu flavor is right for you - my expert advice) Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-25 10:51 +0000
Re: How distros can get choosen by chance jayjwa <jayjwa@atr2.ath.cx.invalid> - 2025-12-25 13:27 -0500
Re: How distros can get choosen by chance rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-25 18:40 +0000
Re: How distros can get choosen by chance Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-12-25 12:34 -0800
Re: How distros can get choosen by chance rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-25 22:11 +0000
Re: How distros can get choosen by chance Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-12-25 14:55 -0800
Re: How distros can get choosen by chance "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-28 14:28 +0100
Re: How distros can get choosen by chance rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-29 02:09 +0000
Re: How distros can get choosen by chance Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-12-25 21:05 +0000
Re: How distros can get choosen by chance rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-25 22:22 +0000
Re: Lubuntu vs. Xubuntu: Which Ubuntu flavor is right for you - my expert advice kouya <kouyaheika@canithesis.org> - 2025-12-24 21:37 -0600
Re: Lubuntu vs. Xubuntu: Which Ubuntu flavor is right for you - my expert advice The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-25 11:46 +0000
Re: Lubuntu vs. Xubuntu: Which Ubuntu flavor is right for you - my expert advice c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-25 11:59 -0500
Re: Lubuntu vs. Xubuntu: Which Ubuntu flavor is right for you - my expert advice The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-26 07:04 +0000
Re: Lubuntu vs. Xubuntu: Which Ubuntu flavor is right for you - my expert advice c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-26 02:27 -0500
Re: Lubuntu vs. Xubuntu: Which Ubuntu flavor is right for you - my expert advice kouya <kouyaheika@canithesis.org> - 2025-12-25 23:07 -0600
Re: Lubuntu vs. Xubuntu: Which Ubuntu flavor is right for you - my expert advice "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-28 13:56 +0100
Re: Lubuntu vs. Xubuntu: Which Ubuntu flavor is right for you - my expert advice The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-28 13:32 +0000
Re: Lubuntu vs. Xubuntu: Which Ubuntu flavor is right for you - my expert advice "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-28 14:51 +0100
Re: Lubuntu vs. Xubuntu: Which Ubuntu flavor is right for you - my expert advice The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-28 14:02 +0000
Re: Lubuntu vs. Xubuntu: Which Ubuntu flavor is right for you - my expert advice "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-28 21:46 +0100
Re: Lubuntu vs. Xubuntu: Which Ubuntu flavor is right for you - my expert advice Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-28 16:24 +0000
Re: Lubuntu vs. Xubuntu: Which Ubuntu flavor is right for you - my expert advice Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-12-28 17:31 +0000
Re: Lubuntu vs. Xubuntu: Which Ubuntu flavor is right for you - my expert advice c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-28 12:53 -0500
Re: Lubuntu vs. Xubuntu: Which Ubuntu flavor is right for you - my expert advice Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-12-28 20:16 +0000
Linux GUIs Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> - 2025-12-29 00:10 +0000
Re: Linux GUIs Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-12-29 02:09 +0000
Re: Linux GUIs c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-28 21:50 -0500
Re: Linux GUIs Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-29 10:16 +0000
Re: Linux GUIs c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-29 05:23 -0500
Re: Linux GUIs "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-29 13:09 +0100
Re: Linux GUIs Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-12-29 14:29 +0100
Re: Linux GUIs The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-29 17:25 +0000
Re: Linux GUIs c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-30 01:04 -0500
Re: Linux GUIs rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-31 02:53 +0000
Re: Linux GUIs not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2025-12-30 07:32 +1000
Re: Linux GUIs rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-30 01:07 +0000
Re: Linux GUIs John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-12-30 09:01 -0800
Re: Linux GUIs c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-30 12:58 -0500
Re: Linux GUIs rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-31 02:47 +0000
Re: Linux GUIs Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-12-30 13:02 +0100
Re: Linux GUIs Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-12-29 06:43 -0800
Re: Linux GUIs Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-12-29 22:09 +0000
Re: Linux GUIs c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-28 21:29 -0500
Re: Linux GUIs rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-29 02:57 +0000
Re: Linux GUIs c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-28 22:13 -0500
Re: Linux GUIs "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-29 13:11 +0100
Re: Linux GUIs The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-29 13:21 +0000
Re: Linux GUIs Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-29 15:56 +0000
Re: Linux GUIs Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-12-29 22:08 +0000
Re: Lubuntu vs. Xubuntu: Which Ubuntu flavor is right for you - my expert advice rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-29 02:37 +0000
Re: Lubuntu vs. Xubuntu: Which Ubuntu flavor is right for you - my expert advice Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-12-28 20:57 +0000
Re: Lubuntu vs. Xubuntu: Which Ubuntu flavor is right for you - my expert advice rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-29 02:35 +0000
Re: Lubuntu vs. Xubuntu: Which Ubuntu flavor is right for you - my expert advice Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-29 10:08 +0000
Re: Lubuntu vs. Xubuntu: Which Ubuntu flavor is right for you - my expert advice The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-29 13:32 +0000
Re: Lubuntu vs. Xubuntu: Which Ubuntu flavor is right for you - my expert advice Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-12-29 22:07 +0000
Re: Lubuntu vs. Xubuntu: Which Ubuntu flavor is right for you - my expert advice rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-29 02:21 +0000
Re: Lubuntu vs. Xubuntu: Which Ubuntu flavor is right for you - my expert advice c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-28 22:08 -0500
Re: Lubuntu vs. Xubuntu: Which Ubuntu flavor is right for you - my expert advice Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-12-28 20:56 +0000
Re: Lubuntu vs. Xubuntu: Which Ubuntu flavor is right for you - my expert advice c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-28 20:43 -0500
Re: Lubuntu vs. Xubuntu: Which Ubuntu flavor is right for you - my expert advice "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-29 03:23 +0100
Re: Lubuntu vs. Xubuntu: Which Ubuntu flavor is right for you - my expert advice rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-29 03:16 +0000
Re: Lubuntu vs. Xubuntu: Which Ubuntu flavor is right for you - my expert advice rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-29 03:15 +0000
Re: Lubuntu vs. Xubuntu: Which Ubuntu flavor is right for you - my expert advice Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-29 10:21 +0000
Re: Lubuntu vs. Xubuntu: Which Ubuntu flavor is right for you - my expert advice c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-29 05:26 -0500
Re: Lubuntu vs. Xubuntu: Which Ubuntu flavor is right for you - my expert advice The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-29 13:29 +0000
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| From | c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> |
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| Date | 2025-12-27 22:33 -0500 |
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| In reply to | #79921 |
On 12/27/25 13:20, The Natural Philosopher wrote: > On 27/12/2025 16:50, c186282 wrote: >> On 12/27/25 07:55, The Natural Philosopher wrote: >>> On 27/12/2025 11:22, c186282 wrote: >>>> The main thing I like about systemd is being able >>>> to watchdog daemons and such >>> >>> My latest daemnon watchdogs itself... >> >> Ummmmm ... so if it crashes it, even while crashed, >> restarts itself ? >> > No. > It is always started by xinetd. :-) And where are the start-up sigs coming from ? What if THAT fails ? > The watchchdog is to suicide itself after its day is done. > > The dignitas foundation are online to help you. > > >> Interesting. >> >> Ah, Schrodinger's App - it's running and not running >> at the same time ! >> > I don't write daemons that crash if I can help it. > > Just for you > > https://dignitas.ch/en/ Daemons can ALWAYS crash - even if you write them perfectly. The lang libs, the system, bad garbage collection even ..... 'perfection' has to be top to bottom, and as complex as things are these days that's never going to happen. Hmmm ... Shrodinger's App ... with quantum computing I wonder if a daemon CAN be running and not running at the same time ....... :-)
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2025-12-29 03:40 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <mrebgtFtqk8U14@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #79945 |
On Sat, 27 Dec 2025 22:33:25 -0500, c186282 wrote: > Hmmm ... Shrodinger's App ... with quantum computing I wonder if a > daemon CAN be running and not running at the same time ....... A daemon can definitely be running and doing something known only to itself so as far as doing its job it's not running.
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| From | c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> |
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| Date | 2025-12-29 00:50 -0500 |
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| In reply to | #80007 |
On 12/28/25 22:40, rbowman wrote: > On Sat, 27 Dec 2025 22:33:25 -0500, c186282 wrote: > >> Hmmm ... Shrodinger's App ... with quantum computing I wonder if a >> daemon CAN be running and not running at the same time ....... > > A daemon can definitely be running and doing something known only to > itself so as far as doing its job it's not running. "Doing its job if not running ..." - this is all getting curiouser and couriouser..... :-) Quantum computing is pretty crude at this point, but I was speculating about when it gets broader, to the point of entertaining some of the weirder aspects of the quantum interpretation. CAN an app be running AND not running ? Maybe ...
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| From | The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-12-29 13:31 +0000 |
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| In reply to | #80007 |
On 29/12/2025 03:40, rbowman wrote: > On Sat, 27 Dec 2025 22:33:25 -0500, c186282 wrote: > >> Hmmm ... Shrodinger's App ... with quantum computing I wonder if a >> daemon CAN be running and not running at the same time ....... > > A daemon can definitely be running and doing something known only to > itself so as far as doing its job it's not running. does a daemon that does nothing, even exist? -- There’s a mighty big difference between good, sound reasons and reasons that sound good. Burton Hillis (William Vaughn, American columnist)
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2025-12-27 22:55 +0000 |
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| In reply to | #79911 |
On Sat, 27 Dec 2025 12:55:31 +0000, The Natural Philosopher wrote: > On 27/12/2025 11:22, c186282 wrote: >> The main thing I like about systemd is being able >> to watchdog daemons and such > > My latest daemnon watchdogs itself... Is it the dog that didn't bark?
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| From | The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-12-27 23:35 +0000 |
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| In reply to | #79932 |
On 27/12/2025 22:55, rbowman wrote: > On Sat, 27 Dec 2025 12:55:31 +0000, The Natural Philosopher wrote: > >> On 27/12/2025 11:22, c186282 wrote: >>> The main thing I like about systemd is being able >>> to watchdog daemons and such >> >> My latest daemnon watchdogs itself... > > Is it the dog that didn't bark? Almost certainly. Cat got its tongue -- “it should be clear by now to everyone that activist environmentalism (or environmental activism) is becoming a general ideology about humans, about their freedom, about the relationship between the individual and the state, and about the manipulation of people under the guise of a 'noble' idea. It is not an honest pursuit of 'sustainable development,' a matter of elementary environmental protection, or a search for rational mechanisms designed to achieve a healthy environment. Yet things do occur that make you shake your head and remind yourself that you live neither in Joseph Stalin’s Communist era, nor in the Orwellian utopia of 1984.” Vaclav Klaus
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| From | Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> |
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| Date | 2025-12-27 13:29 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <694fdf24$0$11444$426a74cc@news.free.fr> |
| In reply to | #79907 |
Le 27-12-2025, c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> a écrit : > On 12/27/25 04:48, Richard Kettlewell wrote: >> Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> writes: >>> rbowman wrote: >>>> On Fri, 26 Dec 2025 20:49:28 -0000 (UTC), Lars Poulsen wrote: >>>> >>>>> The BIG differences between distributions are - initd vs systemd - RPM >>>>> vs apt >>> >>> There are several other init systems in use as well though >>> only the discerning >>> can understand the differences in results. >> >> My suspicion is that 95%+ of end users will neither notice or care about >> the choice of init system. > > Probably true. Most "users" are, well, just USERS. > > However if you're writing daemons and such ... nice > to have the nuanced options. > > The main thing I like about systemd is being able > to watchdog daemons and such. Otherwise you have to > write a separate watchdog for important stuff, and > maybe then watchdogs for the watchdogs and ..... Yes, that's exactly, at the same time, the good point and the bad point about systemd. The bad point is: it does things that it shouldn't, so it increases its complexity. The good point is: it's the only one to do it, all the init system alternatives just remove that without providing any help. So agreed, systemd does things an init system shouldn't do, but as it's the one who launches every other processes, it's the one at the best place to watch them from start to end. -- Si vous avez du temps à perdre : https://scarpet42.gitlab.io
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| From | c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> |
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| Date | 2025-12-27 11:53 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <wLCcnUa-JJ1kk830nZ2dnZfqn_WdnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #79916 |
On 12/27/25 08:29, Stéphane CARPENTIER wrote: > Le 27-12-2025, c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> a écrit : >> On 12/27/25 04:48, Richard Kettlewell wrote: >>> Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> writes: >>>> rbowman wrote: >>>>> On Fri, 26 Dec 2025 20:49:28 -0000 (UTC), Lars Poulsen wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> The BIG differences between distributions are - initd vs systemd - RPM >>>>>> vs apt >>>> >>>> There are several other init systems in use as well though >>>> only the discerning >>>> can understand the differences in results. >>> >>> My suspicion is that 95%+ of end users will neither notice or care about >>> the choice of init system. >> >> Probably true. Most "users" are, well, just USERS. >> >> However if you're writing daemons and such ... nice >> to have the nuanced options. >> >> The main thing I like about systemd is being able >> to watchdog daemons and such. Otherwise you have to >> write a separate watchdog for important stuff, and >> maybe then watchdogs for the watchdogs and ..... > > Yes, that's exactly, at the same time, the good point and the bad point > about systemd. The bad point is: it does things that it shouldn't, so it > increases its complexity. The good point is: it's the only one to do it, > all the init system alternatives just remove that without providing any > help. > > So agreed, systemd does things an init system shouldn't do, but as it's > the one who launches every other processes, it's the one at the best > place to watch them from start to end. Hmm ... maybe someone can write a systemd-lite ?
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| From | Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-12-27 21:32 +0000 |
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| In reply to | #79916 |
On 27 Dec 2025 13:29:08 GMT, Stéphane CARPENTIER wrote: > The bad point is: [systemd] does things that it shouldn't ... Because those things are better done elsewhere? Can you give an example of such duplication of functionality?
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| From | The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-12-27 12:54 +0000 |
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| In reply to | #79905 |
On 27/12/2025 09:48, Richard Kettlewell wrote: > Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> writes: >> rbowman wrote: >>> On Fri, 26 Dec 2025 20:49:28 -0000 (UTC), Lars Poulsen wrote: >>> >>>> The BIG differences between distributions are - initd vs systemd - RPM >>>> vs apt >> >> There are several other init systems in use as well though >> only the discerning >> can understand the differences in results. > > My suspicion is that 95%+ of end users will neither notice or care about > the choice of init system. > We only care when a previously working system doesn't, after an "upgrade". -- Canada is all right really, though not for the whole weekend. "Saki"
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2025-12-27 22:52 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <mrb6a8FeoclU3@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #79905 |
On Sat, 27 Dec 2025 09:48:52 +0000, Richard Kettlewell wrote: > Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> writes: >> rbowman wrote: >>> On Fri, 26 Dec 2025 20:49:28 -0000 (UTC), Lars Poulsen wrote: >>> >>>> The BIG differences between distributions are - initd vs systemd - >>>> RPM vs apt >> >> There are several other init systems in use as well though only the >> discerning >> can understand the differences in results. > > My suspicion is that 95%+ of end users will neither notice or care about > the choice of init system. 95% is high but if you exclude the graybeards many Linux users have never seen sysvinit and wouldn't know what to do with it.
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| From | "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-12-28 14:11 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <gsm72mx83o.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> |
| In reply to | #79905 |
On 2025-12-27 10:48, Richard Kettlewell wrote: > Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> writes: >> rbowman wrote: >>> On Fri, 26 Dec 2025 20:49:28 -0000 (UTC), Lars Poulsen wrote: >>> >>>> The BIG differences between distributions are - initd vs systemd - RPM >>>> vs apt >> >> There are several other init systems in use as well though >> only the discerning >> can understand the differences in results. > > My suspicion is that 95%+ of end users will neither notice or care about > the choice of init system. I did care initially, because systemd did not fully work. Nowdays, it works for me. -- Cheers, Carlos. ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;
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| From | The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-12-28 13:35 +0000 |
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| In reply to | #79952 |
On 28/12/2025 13:11, Carlos E.R. wrote: > On 2025-12-27 10:48, Richard Kettlewell wrote: >> Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> writes: >>> rbowman wrote: >>>> On Fri, 26 Dec 2025 20:49:28 -0000 (UTC), Lars Poulsen wrote: >>>> >>>>> The BIG differences between distributions are - initd vs systemd - RPM >>>>> vs apt >>> >>> There are several other init systems in use as well though >>> only the discerning >>> can understand the differences in results. >> >> My suspicion is that 95%+ of end users will neither notice or care about >> the choice of init system. > > I did care initially, because systemd did not fully work. Nowdays, it > works for me. > Yes. Now I have found out how to get rid of most of it, its acceptable, and people have written better init scripts for it...or whatever they are called. -- “it should be clear by now to everyone that activist environmentalism (or environmental activism) is becoming a general ideology about humans, about their freedom, about the relationship between the individual and the state, and about the manipulation of people under the guise of a 'noble' idea. It is not an honest pursuit of 'sustainable development,' a matter of elementary environmental protection, or a search for rational mechanisms designed to achieve a healthy environment. Yet things do occur that make you shake your head and remind yourself that you live neither in Joseph Stalin’s Communist era, nor in the Orwellian utopia of 1984.” Vaclav Klaus
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| From | c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> |
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| Date | 2025-12-27 01:05 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <gpWcnav0rp-u6tL0nZ2dnZfqnPednZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #79892 |
On 12/26/25 22:56, rbowman wrote: > On Fri, 26 Dec 2025 20:49:28 -0000 (UTC), Lars Poulsen wrote: > >> The BIG differences between distributions are - initd vs systemd - RPM >> vs apt > > Well, sort of. There are .deb and .rpm packages. The Apt Package Tool > uses .deb packages. Most Debian derived distros I'm familiar with use > apt. > > There is a RPM Package manager that uses .rpm files (surprise), but there > are frontends for it too. Fedora did use yum but now uses dnf. /usr/bin/ > yum is a symlink to dnf. OpenSUSE has zypper and a couple of other .rpm > based distros have their own package managers. > > Then there is Arch Linux and pacman. That's the odd one. Rather than dnf > update or apt update is pacman -Syu, with a similar syntax for installs. > There are ways, not recommended, to use .deb or .rpm packages in Arch. I'm > not that brave. Then there is the yay frontend to the Arch User Repository > (AUR) that's more like automating building a tarball. > > There's probably other schemes given the 100+ distros. Not THAT many :-) Oh, Arch, if they've got it use 'octopi' - it's somewhat like 'synaptic', just a tad kludgier. Very often you just don't KNOW what's all out there merely using CL utilities whereas things like synaptic/octopi give you nice clickable lists of yer options and dependent packages too. > You also missed the other big food fight, Wayland vs. x11. That'll be back ... And then there's initd -vs- systemd !
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2025-12-27 08:59 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <mr9lelF7166U6@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #79898 |
On Sat, 27 Dec 2025 01:05:44 -0500, c186282 wrote: > Oh, Arch, if they've got it use 'octopi' - it's somewhat like > 'synaptic', just a tad kludgier. Very often you just don't KNOW > what's all out there merely using CL utilities whereas things like > synaptic/octopi give you nice clickable lists of yer options and > dependent packages too. I seldom go window shopping in a GUI.
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| From | c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> |
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| Date | 2025-12-27 04:42 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <gpWcnd30rp-PN9L0nZ2dnZfqnPednZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #79901 |
On 12/27/25 03:59, rbowman wrote: > On Sat, 27 Dec 2025 01:05:44 -0500, c186282 wrote: > >> Oh, Arch, if they've got it use 'octopi' - it's somewhat like >> 'synaptic', just a tad kludgier. Very often you just don't KNOW >> what's all out there merely using CL utilities whereas things like >> synaptic/octopi give you nice clickable lists of yer options and >> dependent packages too. > > I seldom go window shopping in a GUI. Now don't cuss GUIs ! They DO have a useful place. And Synaptic/Octopi WILL tell you about all sorts of software you didn't even realize you needed/wanted :-)
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2025-12-27 22:11 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <mrb3t9FeoclU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #79903 |
On Sat, 27 Dec 2025 04:42:47 -0500, c186282 wrote: > And Synaptic/Octopi WILL tell you about all sorts of software you > didn't even realize you needed/wanted Sort of like Amazon Prime Video telling me about all the shit I didn't realize I needed? I have used Synaptic or a similar GUI every now and then. Aisleriot is the GNOME solitaire collection and that isn't exactly apparent. KPatience is the KDE equivalent and a little easier to guess. fwiw, I play Klondike and KPatience's version is nice. At the point where you've won it automatically moves the cards to the foundation piles. The GNOME version is manual. Besides KPatience let's you select card faces with penguins. Typically I know what I want to install like 'sudo apt install vim-gtk', I try a command and I get $ geany Command 'geany' not found, but can be installed with: sudo apt install geany or I'm at the relevant website that has the instructions for installing it on the various distros. There was a discussion on the Fedora subreddit that said you should always use Discover for updates since it does an offline update and will tell you if you should reboot. The question was why it wants to reboot 9 times out of ten. I use dnf. Despite almost daily updates 'dnf needs-restarting' says a reboot is not required although the box has been up 59 days. If it makes people feel better they should use Discover by all means.
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| From | "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-12-28 14:05 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <ghm72mx1ji.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> |
| In reply to | #79892 |
On 2025-12-27 04:56, rbowman wrote: > On Fri, 26 Dec 2025 20:49:28 -0000 (UTC), Lars Poulsen wrote: > >> The BIG differences between distributions are - initd vs systemd - RPM >> vs apt > > Well, sort of. There are .deb and .rpm packages. The Apt Package Tool > uses .deb packages. Most Debian derived distros I'm familiar with use > apt. > > There is a RPM Package manager that uses .rpm files (surprise), but there > are frontends for it too. Fedora did use yum but now uses dnf. /usr/bin/ > yum is a symlink to dnf. OpenSUSE has zypper and a couple of other .rpm > based distros have their own package managers. openSUSE had also YaST for managing packages visually. Now it has been deprecated, and replaced with "Myrlyn", I have no idea why. -- Cheers, Carlos. ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;
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| From | The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-12-28 13:34 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <10irbko$8fu2$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #79951 |
On 28/12/2025 13:05, Carlos E.R. wrote: > On 2025-12-27 04:56, rbowman wrote: >> On Fri, 26 Dec 2025 20:49:28 -0000 (UTC), Lars Poulsen wrote: >> >>> The BIG differences between distributions are - initd vs systemd - RPM >>> vs apt >> >> Well, sort of. There are .deb and .rpm packages. The Apt Package Tool >> uses .deb packages. Most Debian derived distros I'm familiar with use >> apt. >> >> There is a RPM Package manager that uses .rpm files (surprise), but there >> are frontends for it too. Fedora did use yum but now uses dnf. /usr/bin/ >> yum is a symlink to dnf. OpenSUSE has zypper and a couple of other .rpm >> based distros have their own package managers. > > openSUSE had also YaST for managing packages visually. Now it has been > deprecated, and replaced with "Myrlyn", I have no idea why. > Gotta give those bright eyed bushy tailed compScis something to stop them fiddling with StuffThatWorlsAlready™. -- “it should be clear by now to everyone that activist environmentalism (or environmental activism) is becoming a general ideology about humans, about their freedom, about the relationship between the individual and the state, and about the manipulation of people under the guise of a 'noble' idea. It is not an honest pursuit of 'sustainable development,' a matter of elementary environmental protection, or a search for rational mechanisms designed to achieve a healthy environment. Yet things do occur that make you shake your head and remind yourself that you live neither in Joseph Stalin’s Communist era, nor in the Orwellian utopia of 1984.” Vaclav Klaus
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2025-12-29 03:21 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <mread8Ftqk8U12@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #79951 |
On Sun, 28 Dec 2025 14:05:20 +0100, Carlos E.R. wrote: > openSUSE had also YaST for managing packages visually. Now it has been > deprecated, and replaced with "Myrlyn", I have no idea why. Because... Considering Yast was one of the major selling points for SuSE, let's do something different. I wonder if zypper still works? Maybe they'll do like Fedora where /usr/bin/yum and /usr/bin/dnf are symlinks to dnf5.
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