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  More Horrifying Sacrilege From A GNU/Linux Master jroot <jr@gnurocks.info> - 2025-08-05 18:36 +0000
    Re: More Horrifying Sacrilege From A GNU/Linux Master "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-05 21:34 +0200
      Re: More Horrifying Sacrilege From A GNU/Linux Master Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-08-06 07:37 +0200
        Re: More Horrifying Sacrilege From A GNU/Linux Master "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-06 12:18 +0200
      Re: More Horrifying Sacrilege From A GNU/Linux Master The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-06 13:46 +0100
        Re: More Horrifying Sacrilege From A GNU/Linux Master "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-07 22:11 +0200
          Re: More Horrifying Sacrilege From A GNU/Linux Master Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-08-07 14:57 -0700
      Re: More Horrifying Sacrilege From A GNU/Linux Master Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-08-09 10:45 +0000
    Re: More Horrifying Sacrilege From A GNU/Linux Master Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> - 2025-08-06 07:46 +0000
      Re: More Horrifying Sacrilege From A GNU/Linux Master "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-08-06 03:58 -0400
        Re: More Horrifying Sacrilege From A GNU/Linux Master pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> - 2025-08-06 23:39 +0000
      It must be a troll (was: Re: More Horrifying Sacrilege From A GNU/Linux Master) vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-08-06 23:51 +0000
        Re: It must be a troll (was: Re: More Horrifying Sacrilege From A GNU/Linux Master) Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> - 2025-08-07 08:00 +0000
          Re: It must be a troll (was: Re: More Horrifying Sacrilege From A GNU/Linux Master) Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> - 2025-08-07 19:36 +0000
            Re: It must be a troll "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-08-07 15:54 -0400
              Re: It must be a troll Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> - 2025-08-09 08:43 +0000
              Re: It must be a troll candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2025-08-11 19:40 +0000
                Re: It must be a troll rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-12 01:47 +0000
                Re: More Horrifying Sacrilege From A GNU/Linux Master Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-09-06 06:47 +0000
            Re: It must be a troll (was: Re: More Horrifying Sacrilege From A GNU/Linux Master) Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-08-09 12:43 +0000
              Re: It must be a troll (was: Re: More Horrifying Sacrilege From A GNU/Linux Master) Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> - 2025-08-09 12:59 +0000
                Re: It must be a troll (was: Re: More Horrifying Sacrilege From A GNU/Linux Master) Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-08-09 21:31 +0000
              Re: It must be a troll Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-09 16:20 +0100
                Re: It must be a troll "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-08-09 11:31 -0400
                  Re: It must be a troll Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-09 17:19 +0100
                    Re: It must be a troll "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-08-09 12:51 -0400
                    Re: It must be a troll "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-09 20:01 +0200

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#70391 — More Horrifying Sacrilege From A GNU/Linux Master

Not only do I disable *all* security features in my kernel and
in *all* of my software, but I boot into my system and run everything
as the root user.

(Ha, ha!  I can hear those distro toadies already howling.)

But what's even worse, from a networking point of view, for
all of my DNS lookups I directly query the top-level root
servers:

ftp://ftp.internic.net/domain/named.root

Thanks to pdnsd this is easy to accomplish (plus adding a
persistent lookup cache as well):

https://packages.gentoo.org/packages/net-dns/pdnsd

Now don't you wish that YOUR distro could do all this for
you ('cause you certainly can't do it for yourself)?

No security.  Root user.  No systemd.  No Wayland.  Root
server lookups.

It's the way personal computing is supposed to be.


-- 
Gentoo: God's special gift to FOSS.

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#70402

On 2025-08-05 20:36, jroot wrote:
> Not only do I disable *all* security features in my kernel and
> in *all* of my software, but I boot into my system and run everything
> as the root user.
> 
> (Ha, ha!  I can hear those distro toadies already howling.)
> 
> But what's even worse, from a networking point of view, for
> all of my DNS lookups I directly query the top-level root
> servers:
> 
> ftp://ftp.internic.net/domain/named.root
> 
> Thanks to pdnsd this is easy to accomplish (plus adding a
> persistent lookup cache as well):
> 
> https://packages.gentoo.org/packages/net-dns/pdnsd
> 
> Now don't you wish that YOUR distro could do all this for
> you ('cause you certainly can't do it for yourself)?

I have been doing that for decades, with distro provided software, then 
stopped doing it because it is not polite.


> 
> No security.  Root user.  No systemd.  No Wayland.  Root
> server lookups.
> 
> It's the way personal computing is supposed to be.

You are nuts.

-- 
Cheers, Carlos.

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#70426

"Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
>I have been doing that for decades, with distro provided software, then 
>stopped doing it because it is not polite.

It is also not a problem. The root DNS servers are anycasted all over
the place, highly distributed, and only have a tiny amount of data
compared to the authoritative servers of bigger providers. Any local
recursor will have this data cached almost immediately, greatly
reducing the load on the root servers.

>You are nuts.

It's a common troll. Don't feed.

Greetings
Marc
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#70460

On 2025-08-06 07:37, Marc Haber wrote:
> "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
>> I have been doing that for decades, with distro provided software, then
>> stopped doing it because it is not polite.
> 
> It is also not a problem. The root DNS servers are anycasted all over
> the place, highly distributed, and only have a tiny amount of data
> compared to the authoritative servers of bigger providers. Any local
> recursor will have this data cached almost immediately, greatly
> reducing the load on the root servers.
> 
>> You are nuts.
> 
> It's a common troll. Don't feed.

Yes, I know, but what he was saying is a lie. It is for others that I 
wrote, not for him, I removed the advocacy group.

-- 
Cheers, Carlos.

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#70477

On 05/08/2025 20:34, Carlos E.R. wrote:
> On 2025-08-05 20:36, jroot wrote:
>> Not only do I disable *all* security features in my kernel and
>> in *all* of my software, but I boot into my system and run everything
>> as the root user.
>>
>> (Ha, ha!  I can hear those distro toadies already howling.)
>>
>> But what's even worse, from a networking point of view, for
>> all of my DNS lookups I directly query the top-level root
>> servers:
>>
>> ftp://ftp.internic.net/domain/named.root
>>
>> Thanks to pdnsd this is easy to accomplish (plus adding a
>> persistent lookup cache as well):
>>
>> https://packages.gentoo.org/packages/net-dns/pdnsd
>>
>> Now don't you wish that YOUR distro could do all this for
>> you ('cause you certainly can't do it for yourself)?
> 
> I have been doing that for decades, with distro provided software, then 
> stopped doing it because it is not polite.
> 
> 
>>
>> No security.  Root user.  No systemd.  No Wayland.  Root
>> server lookups.
>>
>> It's the way personal computing is supposed to be.
> 
> You are nuts.
> 
Npo. Just having a different relationship with his computer.
I mean LGBTQ is all the rage, Why not root user, terminal  and no security?

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/WJlhjWCfhRk
-- 
Climate is what you expect but weather is what you get.
Mark Twain

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#70570

On 2025-08-06 14:46, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
> On 05/08/2025 20:34, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>> On 2025-08-05 20:36, jroot wrote:
>>> Not only do I disable *all* security features in my kernel and
>>> in *all* of my software, but I boot into my system and run everything
>>> as the root user.
>>>
>>> (Ha, ha!  I can hear those distro toadies already howling.)
>>>
>>> But what's even worse, from a networking point of view, for
>>> all of my DNS lookups I directly query the top-level root
>>> servers:
>>>
>>> ftp://ftp.internic.net/domain/named.root
>>>
>>> Thanks to pdnsd this is easy to accomplish (plus adding a
>>> persistent lookup cache as well):
>>>
>>> https://packages.gentoo.org/packages/net-dns/pdnsd
>>>
>>> Now don't you wish that YOUR distro could do all this for
>>> you ('cause you certainly can't do it for yourself)?
>>
>> I have been doing that for decades, with distro provided software, 
>> then stopped doing it because it is not polite.
>>
>>
>>>
>>> No security.  Root user.  No systemd.  No Wayland.  Root
>>> server lookups.
>>>
>>> It's the way personal computing is supposed to be.
>>
>> You are nuts.
>>
> Npo. Just having a different relationship with his computer.
> I mean LGBTQ is all the rage, Why not root user, terminal  and no security?

I have no problem with people doing what they please on their computer. 
But trying to ridicule the people that don't do the same as him, saying 
the rest of the people are stupid, is different.
> https://www.youtube.com/shorts/WJlhjWCfhRk

Badly made. There is no video, it is a photo. The subtitles at the 
bottom get partly occluded with a button asking to subscribe.


-- 
Cheers, Carlos.

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#70579

On 8/7/25 13:11, Carlos E.R. wrote:
> On 2025-08-06 14:46, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>> On 05/08/2025 20:34, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>>> On 2025-08-05 20:36, jroot wrote:
>>>> Not only do I disable *all* security features in my kernel and
>>>> in *all* of my software, but I boot into my system and run everything
>>>> as the root user.
>>>>
>>>> (Ha, ha!  I can hear those distro toadies already howling.)
>>>>
>>>> But what's even worse, from a networking point of view, for
>>>> all of my DNS lookups I directly query the top-level root
>>>> servers:
>>>>
>>>> ftp://ftp.internic.net/domain/named.root
>>>>
>>>> Thanks to pdnsd this is easy to accomplish (plus adding a
>>>> persistent lookup cache as well):
>>>>
>>>> https://packages.gentoo.org/packages/net-dns/pdnsd
>>>>
>>>> Now don't you wish that YOUR distro could do all this for
>>>> you ('cause you certainly can't do it for yourself)?
>>>
>>> I have been doing that for decades, with distro provided software, 
>>> then stopped doing it because it is not polite.
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> No security.  Root user.  No systemd.  No Wayland.  Root
>>>> server lookups.
>>>>
>>>> It's the way personal computing is supposed to be.


	I worked on an AmigaOS where that was the condition of operation.
	The AmigaOS was designed pre-Internet and had no memory protection
either. You did not sign in you just booted up originally from floppies and
if you could find the cash buy a SCSI host Card and learn to do SCSI 50 pin
termination.
	I learned a lot and it was a lot of fun but I had the chance and changed
to Linux Mandriva in 2006.

>>>
>>> You are nuts.

		Always a  possibility in this modern world.

>>>
>> Npo. Just having a different relationship with his computer.
>> I mean LGBTQ is all the rage, Why not root user, terminal  and no 
>> security?
> 
> I have no problem with people doing what they please on their computer. 
> But trying to ridicule the people that don't do the same as him, saying 
> the rest of the people are stupid, is different.
>> https://www.youtube.com/shorts/WJlhjWCfhRk
> 
> Badly made. There is no video, it is a photo. The subtitles at the 
> bottom get partly occluded with a button asking to subscribe.


Actually the photo is the link to a song by
Suzy Blossom - ****plug In My Number Two #80smusic

bliss- Dell Precision 7730- PCLOS 2025.07- Linux 6.12.41- Plasma 5.27.11

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#70671

Le 05-08-2025, Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> a écrit :
> On 2025-08-05 20:36, jroot wrote:
>> 
>> It's the way personal computing is supposed to be.
>
> You are nuts.

Yes. It's a well knownfact. He's got many names like Farley Flud, Larry
Piet, Diego Garcia, Fabian Russel, I can't name them all, they are too
many.

He likes no one and hates everyone and everything. He pretends to be a
master of Linux and a real programmer but he can't manage anything.

-- 
Si vous avez du temps à perdre :
https://scarpet42.gitlab.io

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#70438

>Not only do I disable *all* security features in my kernel and
>in *all* of my software, but I boot into my system and run everything
>as the root user.
>
>(Ha, ha!  I can hear those distro toadies already howling.)
>
>But what's even worse, from a networking point of view, for
>all of my DNS lookups I directly query the top-level root
>servers:
>
>ftp://ftp.internic.net/domain/named.root
>
>Thanks to pdnsd this is easy to accomplish (plus adding a
>persistent lookup cache as well):
>
>https://packages.gentoo.org/packages/net-dns/pdnsd
>
>Now don't you wish that YOUR distro could do all this for
>you ('cause you certainly can't do it for yourself)?
>
>No security.  Root user.  No systemd.  No Wayland.  Root
>server lookups.
>
>It's the way personal computing is supposed to be.

Doing pretty much the same here, Chromium as root too.
 /usr/bin/chromium-browser --no-sandbox
For DNS lookup I use google:
 raspberrypi: ~ # cat /etc/resolv.conf
nameserver 8.8.8.8
nameserver 8.8.4.4
At least google does not block rt.com like my local provider does.

I know Chromium remembers and likely forwards everything, so for spy work I use postal pigeons and micro SDcards...
I got fed up with sea-ape or whatever it was as it started to do strange things on some websites.


raspberrypi: ~ # whoami
root

System DEEE? ? nope


One raspi I have has now has an uptime over 500 days:

raspberrypi: ~ # ssh -Y 192.168.178.95
root@192.168.178.95's password: 
Linux raspi95 4.19.75-v7l+ #1270 SMP Tue Sep 24 18:51:41 BST 2019 armv7l

The programs included with the Debian GNU/Linux system are free software;
the exact distribution terms for each program are described in the
individual files in /usr/share/doc/*/copyright.

Debian GNU/Linux comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY, to the extent
permitted by applicable law.
Last login: Wed Jan  1 11:27:40 2025 from 192.168.178.100
-bash-5.0# uptime
 09:17:34 up 508 days, 22:30, 19 users,  load average: 0.96, 0.92, 0.81
-bash-5.0# uname -a
Linux raspi95 4.19.75-v7l+ #1270 SMP Tue Sep 24 18:51:41 BST 2019 armv7l GNU/Linux



3 raspis on 24/7 on a UPS
The 500 days one runs 6 security cameras 24/7, some mike, plays background audio 24/7.. has a fan.
No WiFi, metal housing.
Reliab!e 

The one I am posting from now with my own Usenet Newsreader 
raspberrypi: ~ # uname -a
Linux raspberrypi 5.15.32-v7l+ #1538 SMP Thu Mar 31 19:39:41 BST 2022 armv7l GNU/Linux
Same, Pi4 8GB, metal housing, no WiFi.

One even older Raspberry Pi runs a server plus some more security stuff, sensors logging radiation and gas levels..
raspberrypi: ~ # ssh -Y 192.168.178.73
root@192.168.178.73's password: 
Linux raspi73 3.6.11+ #371 PREEMPT Thu Feb 7 16:31:35 GMT 2013 armv6l
Last login: Wed Aug  6 09:13:08 2025 from 192.168.178.95

Not bad, 12 years on 24/7!

PCs I have those too, mainly because one has a satellite card and because those have a CD / DVD / M-Disc reader.

 https://panteltje.online/index1.html

The raspberries drive some interesting hardware too, measure humity, air pressure, all logged of course, plane traffic (dump1090), ship traffic (AIS)

All root of course

Linux everywhere, still doing some coding ..
Wonder what people use all that bloat for...
Reading adds?

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#70439

On 8/6/25 3:46 AM, Jan Panteltje wrote:
> 
> Doing pretty much the same here, Chromium as root too.
>   /usr/bin/chromium-browser --no-sandbox
> For DNS lookup I use google:
>   raspberrypi: ~ # cat /etc/resolv.conf
> nameserver 8.8.8.8
> nameserver 8.8.4.4
> At least google does not block rt.com like my local provider does.
> 
> I know Chromium remembers and likely forwards everything, so for spy work I use postal pigeons and micro SDcards...
> I got fed up with sea-ape or whatever it was as it started to do strange things on some websites.
> 
> 
> raspberrypi: ~ # whoami
> root
> 
> System DEEE? ? nope
> 
> 
> One raspi I have has now has an uptime over 500 days:
> 
> raspberrypi: ~ # ssh -Y 192.168.178.95
> root@192.168.178.95's password:
> Linux raspi95 4.19.75-v7l+ #1270 SMP Tue Sep 24 18:51:41 BST 2019 armv7l
> 
> The programs included with the Debian GNU/Linux system are free software;
> the exact distribution terms for each program are described in the
> individual files in /usr/share/doc/*/copyright.
> 
> Debian GNU/Linux comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY, to the extent
> permitted by applicable law.
> Last login: Wed Jan  1 11:27:40 2025 from 192.168.178.100
> -bash-5.0# uptime
>   09:17:34 up 508 days, 22:30, 19 users,  load average: 0.96, 0.92, 0.81
> -bash-5.0# uname -a
> Linux raspi95 4.19.75-v7l+ #1270 SMP Tue Sep 24 18:51:41 BST 2019 armv7l GNU/Linux
> 
> 
> 
> 3 raspis on 24/7 on a UPS
> The 500 days one runs 6 security cameras 24/7, some mike, plays background audio 24/7.. has a fan.
> No WiFi, metal housing.
> Reliab!e
> 
> The one I am posting from now with my own Usenet Newsreader
> raspberrypi: ~ # uname -a
> Linux raspberrypi 5.15.32-v7l+ #1538 SMP Thu Mar 31 19:39:41 BST 2022 armv7l GNU/Linux
> Same, Pi4 8GB, metal housing, no WiFi.
> 
> One even older Raspberry Pi runs a server plus some more security stuff, sensors logging radiation and gas levels..
> raspberrypi: ~ # ssh -Y 192.168.178.73
> root@192.168.178.73's password:
> Linux raspi73 3.6.11+ #371 PREEMPT Thu Feb 7 16:31:35 GMT 2013 armv6l
> Last login: Wed Aug  6 09:13:08 2025 from 192.168.178.95
> 
> Not bad, 12 years on 24/7!
> 
> PCs I have those too, mainly because one has a satellite card and because those have a CD / DVD / M-Disc reader.
> 
>   https://panteltje.online/index1.html
> 
> The raspberries drive some interesting hardware too, measure humity, air pressure, all logged of course, plane traffic (dump1090), ship traffic (AIS)
> 
> All root of course
> 
> Linux everywhere, still doing some coding ..
> Wonder what people use all that bloat for...
> Reading adds?


Larry found his potential GF, heh.

-- 
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

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#70512

On 2025-08-06, Joel W. Crump <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 8/6/25 3:46 AM, Jan Panteltje wrote:
>> 
>> Doing pretty much the same here, Chromium as root too.
>>   /usr/bin/chromium-browser --no-sandbox
>> For DNS lookup I use google:
>>   raspberrypi: ~ # cat /etc/resolv.conf
>> nameserver 8.8.8.8
>> nameserver 8.8.4.4
>> At least google does not block rt.com like my local provider does.
>> 
>> I know Chromium remembers and likely forwards everything, so for spy work I use postal pigeons and micro SDcards...
>> I got fed up with sea-ape or whatever it was as it started to do strange things on some websites.
>> 
>> 
>> raspberrypi: ~ # whoami
>> root
>> 
>> System DEEE? ? nope
>> 
>> 
>> One raspi I have has now has an uptime over 500 days:
>> 
>> raspberrypi: ~ # ssh -Y 192.168.178.95
>> root@192.168.178.95's password:
>> Linux raspi95 4.19.75-v7l+ #1270 SMP Tue Sep 24 18:51:41 BST 2019 armv7l
>> 
>> The programs included with the Debian GNU/Linux system are free software;
>> the exact distribution terms for each program are described in the
>> individual files in /usr/share/doc/*/copyright.
>> 
>> Debian GNU/Linux comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY, to the extent
>> permitted by applicable law.
>> Last login: Wed Jan  1 11:27:40 2025 from 192.168.178.100
>> -bash-5.0# uptime
>>   09:17:34 up 508 days, 22:30, 19 users,  load average: 0.96, 0.92, 0.81
>> -bash-5.0# uname -a
>> Linux raspi95 4.19.75-v7l+ #1270 SMP Tue Sep 24 18:51:41 BST 2019 armv7l GNU/Linux
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 3 raspis on 24/7 on a UPS
>> The 500 days one runs 6 security cameras 24/7, some mike, plays background audio 24/7.. has a fan.
>> No WiFi, metal housing.
>> Reliab!e
>> 
>> The one I am posting from now with my own Usenet Newsreader
>> raspberrypi: ~ # uname -a
>> Linux raspberrypi 5.15.32-v7l+ #1538 SMP Thu Mar 31 19:39:41 BST 2022 armv7l GNU/Linux
>> Same, Pi4 8GB, metal housing, no WiFi.
>> 
>> One even older Raspberry Pi runs a server plus some more security stuff, sensors logging radiation and gas levels..
>> raspberrypi: ~ # ssh -Y 192.168.178.73
>> root@192.168.178.73's password:
>> Linux raspi73 3.6.11+ #371 PREEMPT Thu Feb 7 16:31:35 GMT 2013 armv6l
>> Last login: Wed Aug  6 09:13:08 2025 from 192.168.178.95
>> 
>> Not bad, 12 years on 24/7!
>> 
>> PCs I have those too, mainly because one has a satellite card and because those have a CD / DVD / M-Disc reader.
>> 
>>   https://panteltje.online/index1.html
>> 
>> The raspberries drive some interesting hardware too, measure humity, air pressure, all logged of course, plane traffic (dump1090), ship traffic (AIS)
>> 
>> All root of course
>> 
>> Linux everywhere, still doing some coding ..
>> Wonder what people use all that bloat for...
>> Reading adds?
>
>
> Larry found his potential GF, heh.
>

ROTFLMAO!!!!!!!!!


-- 
pothead

"Our lives are fashioned by our choices. First we make our choices.
 Then our choices make us."
-- Anne Frank

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#70513 — It must be a troll (was: Re: More Horrifying Sacrilege From A GNU/Linux Master)

On Wed, 06 Aug 2025 07:46:22 GMT, Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid>
wrote in <106v18s$38d7c$1@dont-email.me>:

> Doing pretty much the same here, Chromium as root too.
>  /usr/bin/chromium-browser --no-sandbox

Two things come to mind:

1) A small, suspicious (security paranoid) part of me thinks
you and Farley are posting about these practices to encourage
others to drop their shields, making it easier to attack their machines.

2) The rest of me thinks y'all are crazy or generally trolling.

-- 
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   NVIDIA: 575.64.05 Mem: 258G
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#70538 — Re: It must be a troll (was: Re: More Horrifying Sacrilege From A GNU/Linux Master)

>On Wed, 06 Aug 2025 07:46:22 GMT, Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid>
>wrote in <106v18s$38d7c$1@dont-email.me>:
>
>> Doing pretty much the same here, Chromium as root too.
>>  /usr/bin/chromium-browser --no-sandbox
>
>Two things come to mind:

Glad to hear you have one !

>1) A small, suspicious (security paranoid) part of me thinks
>you and Farley are posting about these practices to encourage
>others to drop their shields, making it easier to attack their machines.

Well after I wrote that, my Chromium locked up on edition.cnn.com
Maybe their attack? Or was it you?

Anyways I do keep regular backups of this system (and all others):
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 32010928128 Sep 10  2023 raspi_4_8GB_sdcard_2.img
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 32010928128 Jan 11  2024 raspi_4_8gb_sdcard-3.img
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 32010928128 Apr 21  2024 raspi_4_8gb_sdcard-4.img
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 32010928128 Oct  7  2024 raspi_4_8gb_sdcard-5.img
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 32010928128 Dec 16  2024 raspi_4_8gb_sdcard-6.img
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 32010928128 Jun 30 13:26 raspi_4_8gb_sdcard-7.img
-
Or basically whenever I feel like it.,,
It is now on a 128 GB SDcard, made it a lot faster..
raspberrypi: ~ # df
Filesystem      1K-blocks       Used Available Use% Mounted on
/dev/root       124334328   30260500  88975000  26% /
devtmpfs          3879380          0   3879380   0% /dev
tmpfs             4044244      14800   4029444   1% /dev/shm
tmpfs             1617700       1352   1616348   1% /run
tmpfs                5120          4      5116   1% /run/lock
/dev/mmcblk0p1     258095      50413    207682  20% /boot
tmpfs              808848         24    808824   1% /run/user/1000
/dev/sdb2      3844420600 3138938172 510121764  87% /mnt/sda2

And a 4 TB hard-disk connected.. already 87 % full with code I wrote
and some music and movies...
Giving all that info just to make it easier for those attackers...

Do you know the meaning of the word 'paranoia'?

All that shit from DEEBUSH to SUUUDOOO sucks (should have written sucks in capitals too).

Like somebody having locks on the cookies in the kitchen, the bedroom door,
the TV, the sunscreen, the microwave, the oven, PARANOIA.

A good lock on the front door and a trapdoor with alligators under it, is sufficient.
If they hack me and actually READ the code their brains will be changed forever.

A good thing?

Long ago, when I was running the web server at home, we had the hacker club here trying to hack it.
They failed.

I like hacking in a way, long ago <well an other story) we did some good stuff..
Nothing is 100% secure really, sci.crypt was a nice place long ago 
was about hardware related hacking methods too.


>2) The rest of me thinks y'all are crazy or generally trolling.

I do not know how big the rest of you is after all the previous.
Am just making a backup SDcard in case they manage it past the alligators
 raspberrypi: /mnt/sda2/backups/raspberry # dd if=raspi_4_8gb_sdcard-7.img of=/dev/sdc

All these years, from my first Linux distro SLS (Softlanding Linux System) in 1992
 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Softlanding_Linux_System
I have been root and never ever had a problem.
But I AM aware that see-eye-aaaa and the rest of the clubs know everything I do, did and ?  no  not what I WILL do.
I've read on the internet that the nuclear launch codes in the US submarines are all zeros
as the sailers could not remember more complex numbers when under stress,
So ...  what an opportunity for an hacker to start WW3.
Even pigsident trump could start it.

Remember that warship that ran Microsoft windows NT that lost control?
 https://www.wired.com/1998/07/sunk-by-windows-nt/

Anyways...
Hey I was online again!
 

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#70564 — Re: It must be a troll (was: Re: More Horrifying Sacrilege From A GNU/Linux Master)

On Thu, 07 Aug 2025 08:00:44 GMT, Jan Panteltje wrote:

> 
> All these years, from my first Linux distro SLS (Softlanding Linux System) in 1992
>  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Softlanding_Linux_System
> I have been root and never ever had a problem.
> 

Of course.  Running as root is the only sensible option.

These security weirdos, if one were to ask them to explain,
in explicit technical detail, how a personal workstation
running root could ever be comprised, they could not ever
answer.

That's because they are technically stupid.  They understand
nothing.  All that they can do is parrot, or ape, the standard
line.

Heck.  I can train a monkey to shine my shoes but I sure
as fuck would not want that monkey to administer my GNU/Linux
machines.

As an example, I can mention Berkeley Packet Filter (BPF) and
those security buffoons wouldn't know what the fuck I am talking
about.  Yet BPF is a major security hole and a LOT of mitigations
are built around it -- but, for a personal workstation BPF is
totally superfluous and can be easily eliminated.

Other examples abound.

In conclusion, all those that, for a personal workstation, advocate
these common security "mitigations" are clueless idiots that
belong in the monkey cage at the local zoo.



-- 
Systemd: solving all the problems that you never knew you had.

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#70567 — Re: It must be a troll

On 8/7/25 3:36 PM, Farley Flud wrote:
> On Thu, 07 Aug 2025 08:00:44 GMT, Jan Panteltje wrote:
> 
>> All these years, from my first Linux distro SLS (Softlanding Linux System) in 1992
>>   https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Softlanding_Linux_System
>> I have been root and never ever had a problem.
> 
> Of course.  Running as root is the only sensible option.
> 
> These security weirdos, if one were to ask them to explain,
> in explicit technical detail, how a personal workstation
> running root could ever be comprised, they could not ever
> answer.
> 
> That's because they are technically stupid.  They understand
> nothing.  All that they can do is parrot, or ape, the standard
> line.
> 
> Heck.  I can train a monkey to shine my shoes but I sure
> as fuck would not want that monkey to administer my GNU/Linux
> machines.
> 
> As an example, I can mention Berkeley Packet Filter (BPF) and
> those security buffoons wouldn't know what the fuck I am talking
> about.  Yet BPF is a major security hole and a LOT of mitigations
> are built around it -- but, for a personal workstation BPF is
> totally superfluous and can be easily eliminated.
> 
> Other examples abound.
> 
> In conclusion, all those that, for a personal workstation, advocate
> these common security "mitigations" are clueless idiots that
> belong in the monkey cage at the local zoo.


You're a fucking idiot, dude.  I don't even know a lot about Linux's 
internals or anything, but I know that operating an Internet-connected 
box as root is stupid, 99.999% of the time it'll be fine, you're right, 
but do you want to take that chance?  To save typing "sudo" or whatever? 
  Just moronic.

-- 
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

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#70654 — Re: It must be a troll

>On 8/7/25 3:36 PM, Farley Flud wrote:
>> On Thu, 07 Aug 2025 08:00:44 GMT, Jan Panteltje wrote:
>> 
>>> All these years, from my first Linux distro SLS (Softlanding Linux System) in 1992
>>>   https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Softlanding_Linux_System
>>> I have been root and never ever had a problem.
>> 
>> Of course.  Running as root is the only sensible option.
>> 
>> These security weirdos, if one were to ask them to explain,
>> in explicit technical detail, how a personal workstation
>> running root could ever be comprised, they could not ever
>> answer.
>> 
>> That's because they are technically stupid.  They understand
>> nothing.  All that they can do is parrot, or ape, the standard
>> line.
>> 
>> Heck.  I can train a monkey to shine my shoes but I sure
>> as fuck would not want that monkey to administer my GNU/Linux
>> machines.
>> 
>> As an example, I can mention Berkeley Packet Filter (BPF) and
>> those security buffoons wouldn't know what the fuck I am talking
>> about.  Yet BPF is a major security hole and a LOT of mitigations
>> are built around it -- but, for a personal workstation BPF is
>> totally superfluous and can be easily eliminated.
>> 
>> Other examples abound.
>> 
>> In conclusion, all those that, for a personal workstation, advocate
>> these common security "mitigations" are clueless idiots that
>> belong in the monkey cage at the local zoo.
>
>
>You're a fucking idiot, dude.  I don't even know a lot about Linux's 
>internals or anything,

That showa !!!

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#70797 — Re: It must be a troll

Joel W. Crump <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote at 19:54 this Thursday (GMT):
> On 8/7/25 3:36 PM, Farley Flud wrote:
>> On Thu, 07 Aug 2025 08:00:44 GMT, Jan Panteltje wrote:
>> 
>>> All these years, from my first Linux distro SLS (Softlanding Linux System) in 1992
>>>   https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Softlanding_Linux_System
>>> I have been root and never ever had a problem.
>> 
>> Of course.  Running as root is the only sensible option.
>> 
>> These security weirdos, if one were to ask them to explain,
>> in explicit technical detail, how a personal workstation
>> running root could ever be comprised, they could not ever
>> answer.
>> 
>> That's because they are technically stupid.  They understand
>> nothing.  All that they can do is parrot, or ape, the standard
>> line.
>> 
>> Heck.  I can train a monkey to shine my shoes but I sure
>> as fuck would not want that monkey to administer my GNU/Linux
>> machines.
>> 
>> As an example, I can mention Berkeley Packet Filter (BPF) and
>> those security buffoons wouldn't know what the fuck I am talking
>> about.  Yet BPF is a major security hole and a LOT of mitigations
>> are built around it -- but, for a personal workstation BPF is
>> totally superfluous and can be easily eliminated.
>> 
>> Other examples abound.
>> 
>> In conclusion, all those that, for a personal workstation, advocate
>> these common security "mitigations" are clueless idiots that
>> belong in the monkey cage at the local zoo.
>
>
> You're a fucking idiot, dude.  I don't even know a lot about Linux's 
> internals or anything, but I know that operating an Internet-connected 
> box as root is stupid, 99.999% of the time it'll be fine, you're right, 
> but do you want to take that chance?  To save typing "sudo" or whatever? 
>   Just moronic.


There are also some programs that outright refuse to run under a root
account.
-- 
user <candycane> is generated from /dev/urandom

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#70822 — Re: It must be a troll

On Mon, 11 Aug 2025 19:40:03 -0000 (UTC), candycanearter07 wrote:

> There are also some programs that outright refuse to run under a root
> account.

I ran into that yesterday trying to upload the Fedora kernel test results. 
It tried to spin up Firefox for me to log in but threw a message of 'no 
can do. can't run Firefox as root.'  I'm not sure why. FF is a snap on 
Ubuntu but it is not a flatpak on Fedora.

The instructions for setting up the test with the immutable versions of 
Fedora convinced me I'm not going that route any time soon.

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#73501

On Mon, 11 Aug 2025 19:40:03 -0000 (UTC), candycanearter07 wrote:

> There are also some programs that outright refuse to run under a root
> account.

That’s neither necessary nor sufficient for security, though. Remember 
that Linux privileges are able to go by “capabilities” (i.e. privilege 
sets), not by whether the UID is 0 or not.

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#70676 — Re: It must be a troll (was: Re: More Horrifying Sacrilege From A GNU/Linux Master)

Le 07-08-2025, Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> a écrit :
> On Thu, 07 Aug 2025 08:00:44 GMT, Jan Panteltje wrote:
>
>> 
>> All these years, from my first Linux distro SLS (Softlanding Linux System) in 1992
>>  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Softlanding_Linux_System
>> I have been root and never ever had a problem.
>> 
>
> Of course.  Running as root is the only sensible option.

Yes, you already proved by your always broke computer why it's a bad
idea.

> These security weirdos, if one were to ask them to explain,
> in explicit technical detail, how a personal workstation
> running root could ever be comprised, they could not ever
> answer.

When hearing a barking dog, no sane human being would try to explain to
it why it's wrong. For the same reason no one could teach a dog to
understand something, no one could teach a chair and, of course, no one
could teach you anything. So, everyone let you bark and avoid loosing
time to explain to you the basic of computer management.

> That's because they are technically stupid.  They understand
> nothing.  All that they can do is parrot, or ape, the standard
> line.

No, it's because the are normal and realized a long time ago you can't
learn anything and it would be a lost of time to give you technical
information.

> Heck.  I can train a monkey to shine my shoes 

You pretend you can. You believe you can. But you can't.

> but I sure as fuck would not want that monkey to administer my
> GNU/Linux machines.

You should: a monkey couldn't be worse than you.

> As an example, I can mention Berkeley Packet Filter (BPF)

Do you know the difference between eBPF and BPF?

> and those security buffoons wouldn't know what the fuck I am talking
> about.

It looks like you don't. So it's a sanity proof.

> Yet BPF is a major security hole 

You want proofs and technical explanations against bargain, but the only
thing you can do is bargain. So give technical detail if you can.

> and a LOT of mitigations are built around it

Again, give technical details instead of bargain.

> -- but, for a personal workstation BPF is
> totally superfluous and can be easily eliminated.

I'm not sure you know what you are talking about.

> Other examples abound.

Other examples than what abound? You gave no example. You only gave
bargain.

-- 
Si vous avez du temps à perdre :
https://scarpet42.gitlab.io

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