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| Started by | Anssi Saari <anssi.saari@usenet.mail.kapsi.fi> |
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| First post | 2025-10-07 16:07 +0300 |
| Last post | 2025-10-12 12:10 +0100 |
| Articles | 20 on this page of 454 — 21 participants |
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Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Anssi Saari <anssi.saari@usenet.mail.kapsi.fi> - 2025-10-07 16:07 +0300
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-07 14:39 +0100
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-07 22:52 +0000
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-08 01:35 -0400
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-08 10:53 +0200
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-08 21:06 +0000
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-09 21:25 +0200
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-09 21:45 +0000
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-09 21:41 -0400
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-10 09:21 +0200
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-10 13:21 +0000
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-10 21:15 +0200
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-10 21:53 +0000
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-11 02:46 -0400
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-11 02:38 -0400
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-09 02:09 -0400
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-10-09 18:52 +0000
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-09 21:33 -0400
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-10-11 15:10 +0000
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-10-11 17:48 +0000
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-11 19:01 +0000
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-10-11 19:08 +0000
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-11 19:32 +0000
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-11 22:29 -0400
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-10-12 11:07 +0000
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-10-13 09:06 -0700
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-10-18 16:24 +0000
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-10-18 21:02 +0000
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-19 01:36 +0000
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-19 13:39 +0200
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-20 02:10 +0000
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-20 05:36 +0000
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-20 02:33 -0400
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-20 02:31 -0400
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-20 19:21 +0000
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-10-19 12:17 +0000
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-19 02:22 +0000
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-19 04:28 -0400
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-19 11:19 +0100
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-10-20 09:20 -0700
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-10-25 12:49 +0000
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-25 16:45 +0100
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-10-25 22:16 +0000
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-26 01:51 +0000
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-10-26 04:40 +0000
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-26 08:42 +0000
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-26 09:11 +0000
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-26 10:06 +0000
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-26 19:25 +0000
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-26 19:48 +0100
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-26 21:29 +0000
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-27 00:44 +0100
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-26 00:57 -0400
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-26 07:14 +0000
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-26 11:05 +0000
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-26 02:00 +0000
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-26 11:02 +0000
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-25 22:03 +0000
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-25 21:19 -0400
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-26 01:50 +0000
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-10-26 04:40 +0000
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-26 14:52 +0100
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-26 19:06 +0000
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-26 20:29 +0100
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-26 21:22 +0000
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-26 22:17 -0400
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-27 10:09 +0100
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-27 21:23 +0000
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-28 00:47 +0100
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-28 00:27 +0000
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-10-28 07:45 +0000
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-28 23:05 +0000
Accents. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-28 13:46 +0100
Re: Accents. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-28 18:47 +0000
Re: Accents. Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-10-28 20:21 +0000
Re: Accents. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-28 23:46 +0100
Re: Accents. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-29 01:41 +0000
Re: Accents. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-29 11:07 +0000
Re: Accents. Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-10-29 18:47 +0000
Re: Accents. Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-29 22:15 +0000
Re: Accents. Allodoxaphobia <trepidation@example.net> - 2025-10-30 17:29 +0000
Re: Accents. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-30 17:31 +0000
Re: Accents. Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-10-30 19:31 +0000
Re: Accents. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-30 20:14 +0000
Re: Accents. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-30 20:11 +0000
Re: Accents. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-30 20:10 +0000
Re: Accents. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-30 21:35 +0100
Re: Accents. candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2025-10-30 21:40 +0000
Re: Accents. Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-10-30 15:18 -0700
Re: Accents. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-31 03:17 +0000
Re: Accents. Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-10-30 21:46 -0700
Re: Accents. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-31 19:25 +0000
LED lights "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-01 14:38 +0100
Re: LED lights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-01 20:50 -0400
Re: LED lights The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-02 11:14 +0000
Re: LED lights "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-02 15:41 +0100
Re: LED lights rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-02 19:57 +0000
Re: LED lights Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-11-03 00:12 +0000
Re: LED lights "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-03 02:38 +0100
Re: LED lights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-03 00:19 -0500
Re: LED lights Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-11-03 07:03 +0000
Re: LED lights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-03 14:20 -0500
Re: LED lights The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-03 20:02 +0000
Re: LED lights rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-04 04:42 +0000
Re: LED lights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-04 02:31 -0500
Re: LED lights The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-03 10:16 +0000
Re: LED lights rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-02 01:51 +0000
Re: LED lights "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-02 15:48 +0100
Re: LED lights rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-02 19:42 +0000
Re: LED lights "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-02 21:33 +0100
Re: Accents. Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-10-30 22:21 +0000
Re: Accents. Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-31 04:59 +0000
Re: Accents. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-31 14:41 +0100
Re: Accents. John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-10-31 08:56 -0700
Re: Accents. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-31 19:53 +0000
Re: Accents. Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-10-31 19:02 -0700
Re: Accents. Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-11-01 02:52 +0000
Re: Accents. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-01 05:32 +0000
Re: Accents. Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-11-19 19:19 +0000
TV tropes (was: Re: Accents.) Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-20 11:01 +0000
Re: TV tropes "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-20 13:10 +0100
Re: TV tropes Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-11-20 17:57 +0000
Re: TV tropes "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-20 21:28 +0100
Re: TV tropes Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-11-21 02:10 +0000
Re: TV tropes "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-21 13:14 +0100
Re: TV tropes Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-11-21 02:09 +0000
Re: TV tropes rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-21 07:41 +0000
Re: TV tropes Pancho <Pancho.Jones@protonmail.com> - 2025-11-21 09:00 +0000
Re: TV tropes The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-21 09:13 +0000
Re: TV tropes "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-21 13:17 +0100
Re: TV tropes rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-21 19:28 +0000
Re: TV tropes "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-21 20:43 +0100
Re: TV tropes The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-21 23:00 +0000
Re: TV tropes rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-22 04:06 +0000
Blade runner "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-01 14:24 +0100
Re: Not Blade Runner Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-11-01 19:57 +0000
Blade runner "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-01 14:22 +0100
Re: Blade runner rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-02 01:22 +0000
Re: Blade runner "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-02 15:50 +0100
Re: Blade runner rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-02 19:20 +0000
Re: Blade runner "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-02 21:34 +0100
Re: Blade runner rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-03 02:47 +0000
Re: Blade runner "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-03 13:05 +0100
Re: Blade runner rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-03 20:04 +0000
Re: Blade runner c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-03 15:40 -0500
Flashlights "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-03 22:30 +0100
Re: Flashlights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-03 17:48 -0500
Re: Flashlights Ian <gay@sfuu.ca> - 2025-11-03 20:26 -0800
Re: Flashlights Robert Riches <spamtrap42@jacob21819.net> - 2025-11-04 04:55 +0000
Re: Flashlights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-04 02:35 -0500
Re: Flashlights Robert Riches <spamtrap42@jacob21819.net> - 2025-11-05 03:44 +0000
Re: Flashlights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-05 01:05 -0500
Re: Flashlights "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-05 13:20 +0100
Re: Flashlights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-05 22:08 -0500
Re: Flashlights rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-05 16:33 +0000
Re: Flashlights "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-05 20:37 +0100
Re: Flashlights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-05 22:26 -0500
Re: Flashlights "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-06 11:56 +0100
Re: Flashlights rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-06 18:42 +0000
Re: Flashlights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-06 17:30 -0500
Re: Flashlights candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2025-11-07 16:20 +0000
Re: Flashlights The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-07 18:11 +0000
Re: Flashlights rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-07 18:50 +0000
Re: Flashlights "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-07 22:42 +0100
Re: Flashlights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-07 21:08 -0500
Re: Flashlights "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-08 13:31 +0100
Re: Flashlights Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-11-08 16:05 +0000
Re: Flashlights rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-08 20:06 +0000
Re: Flashlights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-09 00:04 -0500
Re: Flashlights Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-11-09 20:08 +0000
Re: Flashlights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-10 00:41 -0500
Re: Flashlights The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-10 12:07 +0000
Re: Flashlights John-Paul Stewart <jpstewart@personalprojects.net> - 2025-11-09 19:05 -0500
Re: Flashlights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-10 00:58 -0500
Re: Flashlights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-05 22:12 -0500
Re: Flashlights rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-06 05:09 +0000
Re: Flashlights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-06 01:31 -0500
Re: Flashlights rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-06 18:39 +0000
Re: Flashlights rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-04 07:51 +0000
Re: Flashlights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-04 02:19 -0500
Re: Flashlights The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-04 09:55 +0000
Re: Flashlights Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-11-21 18:16 +0000
Re: Flashlights "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-21 20:39 +0100
Re: Flashlights The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-21 22:54 +0000
Re: Flashlights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-21 23:52 -0500
Re: Flashlights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-21 23:32 -0500
Re: Flashlights The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-22 06:49 +0000
Re: Flashlights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-22 03:14 -0500
Re: Flashlights The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-22 11:32 +0000
Re: Flashlights Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-11-22 22:00 +0000
Re: Flashlights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-23 02:35 -0500
Re: Flashlights The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-23 09:40 +0000
Re: Flashlights Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-11-23 20:15 +0000
Re: Flashlights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-23 22:10 -0500
Re: Flashlights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-23 01:42 -0500
Re: Flashlights "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-23 22:09 +0100
Re: Flashlights Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-11-24 02:17 +0000
Re: Flashlights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-23 22:19 -0500
Re: Flashlights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-23 21:58 -0500
Re: Flashlights "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-24 20:28 +0100
Re: Flashlights Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-11-24 15:04 -0800
Re: Flashlights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-24 22:48 -0500
Chemical photography "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-25 07:59 +0100
Re: Chemical photography c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-25 03:43 -0500
Re: Chemical photography "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-25 09:59 +0100
Re: Chemical photography Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-11-25 10:14 -0800
Re: Chemical photography "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-25 19:38 +0100
Re: Chemical photography Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-11-25 10:54 -0800
Re: Chemical photography rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-25 18:58 +0000
Re: Chemical photography Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-11-25 19:12 +0000
Re: Chemical photography "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-25 20:32 +0100
Re: Chemical photography The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-26 13:39 +0000
Re: Chemical photography rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-25 22:26 +0000
Re: Chemical photography "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-26 07:34 +0100
Re: Chemical photography c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-26 02:40 -0500
City fauna "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-26 11:18 +0100
Re: City fauna rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-26 20:40 +0000
Re: City fauna "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-27 12:39 +0100
Re: City fauna The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-27 11:56 +0000
Re: City fauna "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-27 13:16 +0100
Re: City fauna rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-27 19:58 +0000
Re: Chemical photography rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-26 20:15 +0000
Re: Chemical photography c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-26 22:39 -0500
Re: Chemical photography rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-27 18:55 +0000
Re: Chemical photography "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-27 20:20 +0100
Re: Chemical photography c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-26 23:40 -0500
Re: Chemical photography rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-27 19:03 +0000
Re: Chemical photography c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-27 22:36 -0500
Re: Chemical photography candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2025-12-01 21:50 +0000
Re: Chemical photography "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-25 20:31 +0100
Re: Chemical photography c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-25 22:00 -0500
Re: Chemical photography rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-26 05:08 +0000
Re: Chemical photography The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-26 13:40 +0000
Re: Chemical photography The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-26 13:37 +0000
Re: Chemical photography rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-26 21:02 +0000
Re: Chemical photography Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-11-26 13:29 -0800
Re: Chemical photography rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-27 01:57 +0000
Re: Chemical photography c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-26 23:13 -0500
Re: Chemical photography The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-27 11:47 +0000
Re: Chemical photography c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-27 22:09 -0500
Re: Chemical photography The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-27 11:45 +0000
Re: Chemical photography rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-27 19:37 +0000
Re: Chemical photography c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-27 23:47 -0500
Re: Chemical photography rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-28 06:20 +0000
Re: Chemical photography c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-28 01:38 -0500
Re: Chemical photography The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-28 07:20 +0000
Re: Chemical photography c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-28 02:58 -0500
Re: Chemical photography rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-28 09:12 +0000
Re: Chemical photography c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-28 05:20 -0500
Re: Chemical photography The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-28 11:28 +0000
Re: Chemical photography rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-28 20:32 +0000
Re: Chemical photography c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-28 23:19 -0500
Re: Chemical photography The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-29 11:45 +0000
Re: Chemical photography The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-29 11:41 +0000
Punt guns. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-29 14:03 +0100
Re: Punt guns. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-29 13:19 +0000
Re: Punt guns. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-29 14:43 +0100
Re: Punt guns. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-29 14:42 +0000
Re: Chemical photography c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-28 22:10 -0500
Punt guns "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-29 14:06 +0100
Re: Punt guns Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-11-29 08:58 -0800
Re: Punt guns c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-29 22:34 -0500
Re: Punt guns c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-30 01:05 -0500
Re: Chemical photography rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-29 19:19 +0000
Re: Chemical photography rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-28 20:25 +0000
Re: Chemical photography rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-28 08:58 +0000
Re: Chemical photography "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-28 20:14 +0100
Re: Chemical photography The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-28 19:20 +0000
Re: Chemical photography "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-28 21:04 +0100
Re: Chemical photography rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-29 01:55 +0000
Re: Chemical photography c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-28 23:39 -0500
Bears "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-29 14:07 +0100
Re: Bears c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-30 00:51 -0500
Re: Chemical photography rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-28 20:09 +0000
Re: Chemical photography c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-28 23:12 -0500
Repopulating bears, wolves... "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-29 14:10 +0100
Re: Repopulating bears, wolves... Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-11-29 08:53 -0800
Re: Repopulating bears, wolves... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-29 18:59 +0000
Re: Repopulating bears, wolves... c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-29 22:49 -0500
Re: Repopulating bears, wolves... c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-29 22:19 -0500
Re: Repopulating bears, wolves... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-30 03:57 +0000
Re: Repopulating bears, wolves... c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-29 23:01 -0500
Re: Repopulating bears, wolves... The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-30 10:33 +0000
Re: Repopulating bears, wolves... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-29 18:40 +0000
Re: Chemical photography rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-29 18:32 +0000
Re: Chemical photography c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-29 22:46 -0500
Re: Chemical photography c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-26 22:40 -0500
Re: Chemical photography The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-27 11:48 +0000
Re: Chemical photography rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-27 19:07 +0000
Re: Chemical photography The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-27 19:15 +0000
Re: Chemical photography "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-27 20:23 +0100
Re: Chemical photography The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-28 05:13 +0000
Re: Chemical photography c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-28 00:17 -0500
Re: Chemical photography The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-28 05:21 +0000
Re: Chemical photography c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-28 00:29 -0500
Re: Chemical photography The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-28 07:13 +0000
Re: Chemical photography rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-28 09:19 +0000
Re: Chemical photography c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-27 23:16 -0500
Re: Chemical photography c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-27 22:10 -0500
Re: Chemical photography The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-28 05:17 +0000
Re: Chemical photography c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-28 00:26 -0500
Re: Chemical photography The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-28 07:10 +0000
Re: Chemical photography rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-28 06:15 +0000
Re: Chemical photography The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-28 07:15 +0000
Re: Flashlights "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-04 11:28 +0100
Re: Flashlights The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-04 11:15 +0000
Re: Flashlights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-04 13:27 -0500
Re: Flashlights "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-04 19:37 +0100
Re: Flashlights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-04 21:12 -0500
Re: Flashlights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-04 13:22 -0500
Re: Flashlights Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-11-04 20:52 +0000
Re: Flashlights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-04 21:23 -0500
Re: Flashlights "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-05 13:23 +0100
Re: Flashlights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-05 22:10 -0500
Re: Flashlights "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-06 12:05 +0100
Re: Flashlights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-06 17:21 -0500
Re: Flashlights Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-11-05 07:21 +0000
Re: Flashlights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-05 03:54 -0500
Re: Flashlights Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-11-21 18:20 +0000
Re: Flashlights The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-04 09:52 +0000
Re: Flashlights Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-11-05 07:21 +0000
Re: Flashlights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-05 03:17 -0500
Re: Flashlights The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-05 11:54 +0000
Re: Flashlights rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-05 16:41 +0000
Re: Flashlights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-05 22:16 -0500
Re: Flashlights Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-11-05 22:22 +0000
Re: Flashlights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-05 22:41 -0500
Re: Flashlights "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-06 12:10 +0100
Re: Flashlights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-06 17:24 -0500
Re: Flashlights "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-07 02:44 +0100
Re: Flashlights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-05 21:53 -0500
Re: Flashlights "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-04 11:12 +0100
Re: Blade runner "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-03 23:14 +0100
Re: Accents. Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-11-19 19:01 +0000
Re: Accents. Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-31 23:19 +0000
Re: Accents. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-01 05:33 +0000
Blade runner. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-01 14:29 +0100
Re: Blade runner. Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-11-01 19:56 +0000
Re: Blade runner. c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-01 21:38 -0400
Re: Accents. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-01 14:31 +0100
Re: Accents. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-31 19:48 +0000
Re: Accents. Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-10-31 22:45 +0000
Re: Accents. Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-31 23:22 +0000
Re: Accents. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-30 21:33 +0100
Re: Accents. Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-30 22:20 +0000
Re: Accents. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-30 23:36 +0100
Re: Accents. Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-31 04:51 +0000
Re: Accents. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-31 14:48 +0100
Re: Accents. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-31 15:03 +0000
Re: Accents. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-31 20:15 +0000
Re: Accents. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-01 11:15 +0000
Re: Accents. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-02 00:39 +0000
Re: Accents. Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-31 23:26 +0000
Re: Accents. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-01 14:44 +0100
Re: Accents. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-01 14:05 +0000
Re: Accents. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-02 00:54 +0000
Re: Accents. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-02 11:15 +0000
Re: Accents. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-02 19:02 +0000
Re: Accents. Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-11-01 20:10 +0000
Re: Accents. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-02 00:49 +0000
Re: Accents. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-02 11:13 +0000
Re: Accents. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-02 18:48 +0000
Re: Accents. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-03 10:12 +0000
Re: Accents. Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-11-03 20:04 +0000
Re: Accents. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-04 04:28 +0000
Re: Accents. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-03 13:11 +0100
Re: Accents. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-03 12:26 +0000
Re: Accents. John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-11-03 09:17 -0800
Re: Accents. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-01 14:42 +0100
Re: Accents. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-31 20:01 +0000
Re: Accents. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-01 11:15 +0000
Re: Accents. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-02 00:33 +0000
Re: Accents. Don_from_AZ <djatechNOSPAM@comcast.net.invalid> - 2025-11-01 20:43 -0700
Re: Accents. Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-11-02 19:30 +0000
Re: Accents. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-03 02:21 +0000
Re: Accents. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-31 03:47 +0000
Re: Accents. Pancho <Pancho.Jones@protonmail.com> - 2025-10-30 22:48 +0000
Re: Accents. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-31 03:58 +0000
Re: Accents. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-31 08:25 +0000
Re: Accents. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-01 20:09 +0100
Re: Accents. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-31 03:29 +0000
Re: Accents. Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-10-30 21:50 -0700
Re: Accents. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-31 08:28 +0000
Re: Accents. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-31 19:29 +0000
Re: Accents. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-31 08:27 +0000
Re: Accents. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-31 19:41 +0000
Re: Accents. Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-10-31 22:45 +0000
Re: Accents. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-01 05:36 +0000
Re: Accents. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-01 20:11 +0100
Re: Accents. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-02 00:59 +0000
Re: Accents. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-28 18:54 +0000
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-28 09:34 +0000
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-10-26 13:53 +0000
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-10-26 15:40 +0100
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-26 19:11 +0000
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-11-02 14:03 +0000
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-26 22:20 -0400
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-27 08:29 +0000
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-11-02 14:11 +0000
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-02 14:15 +0000
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-03 02:37 +0100
OT -xRe: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-11-02 18:49 -0800
Re: OT -xRe: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-03 06:54 +0000
Re: OT -xRe: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-11-03 08:19 -0800
Re: OT -xRe: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-03 10:18 +0000
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-10-27 09:34 -0700
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-27 21:26 +0000
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-19 03:36 -0400
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-11 19:31 +0000
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-12 01:33 +0000
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-11 22:52 +0200
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-11 22:48 +0000
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-12 02:43 +0200
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-12 12:12 +0100
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-11 22:02 -0400
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-12 06:39 +0000
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-12 02:59 -0400
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-12 19:20 +0000
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2025-10-13 16:50 +0000
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-13 18:38 +0100
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-14 01:38 -0400
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-14 01:45 -0400
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-12 12:17 +0100
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-13 03:28 +0000
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-13 03:41 -0400
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-13 10:20 +0100
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-13 11:55 +0200
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-13 21:56 +0000
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-14 00:35 +0000
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-14 01:21 -0400
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-14 06:56 +0000
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-10-14 17:20 +0000
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-14 20:01 -0400
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-10-15 05:36 +0000
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-15 03:33 -0400
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-15 21:18 +0000
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-16 02:24 -0400
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-15 06:31 +0000
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-10-15 09:00 -0700
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-15 21:24 +0000
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-10-15 15:11 -0700
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-16 02:27 -0400
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-16 07:22 +0000
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-17 22:24 -0400
Lazarus [Was: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work?] "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-18 20:08 +0200
Re: Lazarus [Was: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work?] c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-19 04:15 -0400
Re: Lazarus [Was: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work?] "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-19 13:46 +0200
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-16 04:36 +0000
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-10-16 10:29 -0700
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-16 01:49 -0400
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-10-16 15:43 -0700
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2025-10-14 21:30 +0000
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-14 22:11 +0000
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-12 12:10 +0100
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2025-11-27 19:58 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: City fauna |
| Message-ID | <moror4F5it2U2@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #77953 |
On Thu, 27 Nov 2025 11:56:40 +0000, The Natural Philosopher wrote: > Sparrows have long gone here. > > Something to do with modern regulations making ingress to roof spaces > impossible Supposedly there are 24 different sparrow species in this state but they're all LGBs to me. Most of them are New World sparrows like the American tree sparrow. There are European house sparrows that were imported but the finches tend to eat their lunch so to speak.
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2025-11-26 20:15 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: Chemical photography |
| Message-ID | <mop5fkFn18dU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #77923 |
On Wed, 26 Nov 2025 02:40:35 -0500, c186282 wrote: > It is possible to create a fair image-rec app of course ... might be > too much for a PI, at least for the earlier ones. The newer BMAX and > BeeLink boxes might be better and at a fair price. However image rec > CAN be very touchy ... not even two raccoons look quite the same and > some hippie-dippys don't look SO much different from raccoons > dontchaknow ... The problem would be collecting labeled images of raccoons. https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=54765 Separating cats from dogs is sort of a 'hello world' for image recognition and the dataset is available. Raccoons not so much. That's a real problem for supervised learning. Not only do you need a lot of raw data but it has to be labeled, which at this point means a human is deciding what is a dog or cat. https://www.raspberrypi.com/products/ai-kit/ There has been a lot of bitching since Qualcomm bought Arduino but it's led to at least one new product. https://store-usa.arduino.cc/products/uno-q It's the equivalent of a RPi 5 with a Pico 2 hung off it. There is a model with 4 GB of RAM in the pipeline which is still lighter than the Pi5. > Hey, I still sport something near the legacy 70s look ... 'stache and > fairly prominent 'burns and as much hair as I can grow these days - > don't forget yer past lest you forget yourself https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WGxSYOZVhlM > Perhaps the easiest solution is to simply remove the outdoor > feed/water thingie for awhile until the wildlife forgets. Raccoons never forget. I probably will shut down the feeder for the winter. A couple of the cats are getting chubby and we can't have that in MAHA.
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| From | c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> |
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| Date | 2025-11-26 22:39 -0500 |
| Subject | Re: Chemical photography |
| Message-ID | <6k2dnWY3EPF2Wrr0nZ2dnZfqnPGdnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #77934 |
On 11/26/25 15:15, rbowman wrote: > On Wed, 26 Nov 2025 02:40:35 -0500, c186282 wrote: > > >> It is possible to create a fair image-rec app of course ... might be >> too much for a PI, at least for the earlier ones. The newer BMAX and >> BeeLink boxes might be better and at a fair price. However image rec >> CAN be very touchy ... not even two raccoons look quite the same and >> some hippie-dippys don't look SO much different from raccoons >> dontchaknow ... > > The problem would be collecting labeled images of raccoons. > > https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=54765 > > Separating cats from dogs is sort of a 'hello world' for image recognition > and the dataset is available. Raccoons not so much. That's a real problem > for supervised learning. Not only do you need a lot of raw data but it has > to be labeled, which at this point means a human is deciding what is a dog > or cat. > > https://www.raspberrypi.com/products/ai-kit/ > > There has been a lot of bitching since Qualcomm bought Arduino but it's > led to at least one new product. > > https://store-usa.arduino.cc/products/uno-q > > It's the equivalent of a RPi 5 with a Pico 2 hung off it. There is a model > with 4 GB of RAM in the pipeline which is still lighter than the Pi5. > > >> Hey, I still sport something near the legacy 70s look ... 'stache and >> fairly prominent 'burns and as much hair as I can grow these days - >> don't forget yer past lest you forget yourself > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WGxSYOZVhlM > > >> Perhaps the easiest solution is to simply remove the outdoor >> feed/water thingie for awhile until the wildlife forgets. > > Raccoons never forget. I probably will shut down the feeder for the > winter. A couple of the cats are getting chubby and we can't have that in > MAHA. I thought 'chubby' was only against the law in Hollywood ... Anyway, raccoons have rather short lifespans, so you can replace the feeder in a few years. Smart as they otherwise are, raccoons can NOT figure out automobiles ... always walk straight in front of them, oblivious, then obliviated. Actually a lot of beasties are very bad with automobiles ... opossums and armadillos esp. Dogs think they're wildebeests or something and try to 'bite at the heels' (tires) to herd the things. Cats wait until the last damned instant and then try to dart in front of them. Squirrels tend to do the 'owl-avoidance dance' - and wind up decapitated by the transmission-mount bracket. Bugs get hypnotized by headlights. Odd how, without even trying, we invented something SO contrary to millions of years worth of evolved instincts ...
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2025-11-27 18:55 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: Chemical photography |
| Message-ID | <morl5bF4u3fU2@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #77941 |
On Wed, 26 Nov 2025 22:39:21 -0500, c186282 wrote: > Smart as they otherwise are, raccoons can NOT figure out automobiles > ... always walk straight in front of them, oblivious, then > obliviated. I'm not sure how she does it but the cat recognizes both my car and the bikes. Even before I turn into the driveway she is off the deck like a shot to greet me. She doesn't respond to other vehicles. If she is wandering around in a neighbor's yard she also hurries back. I don't know about raccoons, particularly in an urban environment. The urban deer seem to have figured cars out. There was an amusing dashcam shot on reddit a few weeks ago of a happy little deer family in a crosswalk like good citizens. That's better than the humans dressed like ninjas that cross the road wherever they damn well please. They get hit and the city drops the speed limit another 5 mph rather than letting natural selection take its course.
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| From | "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-11-27 20:20 +0100 |
| Subject | Re: Chemical photography |
| Message-ID | <cskmvlx1cj.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> |
| In reply to | #77962 |
On 2025-11-27 19:55, rbowman wrote: > On Wed, 26 Nov 2025 22:39:21 -0500, c186282 wrote: > >> Smart as they otherwise are, raccoons can NOT figure out automobiles >> ... always walk straight in front of them, oblivious, then >> obliviated. > > I'm not sure how she does it but the cat recognizes both my car and the > bikes. Even before I turn into the driveway she is off the deck like a > shot to greet me. She doesn't respond to other vehicles. If she is > wandering around in a neighbor's yard she also hurries back. My dog did that. She howled when my dad entered the garden in his car, even earlier, so everybody knew. > > I don't know about raccoons, particularly in an urban environment. The > urban deer seem to have figured cars out. There was an amusing dashcam > shot on reddit a few weeks ago of a happy little deer family in a > crosswalk like good citizens. That's better than the humans dressed like > ninjas that cross the road wherever they damn well please. They get hit > and the city drops the speed limit another 5 mph rather than letting > natural selection take its course. > Heh. -- Cheers, Carlos. ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;
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| From | c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> |
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| Date | 2025-11-26 23:40 -0500 |
| Subject | Re: Chemical photography |
| Message-ID | <yPqcnYm2LeCuS7r0nZ2dnZfqnPUAAAAA@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #77934 |
On 11/26/25 15:15, rbowman wrote: > On Wed, 26 Nov 2025 02:40:35 -0500, c186282 wrote: > > >> It is possible to create a fair image-rec app of course ... might be >> too much for a PI, at least for the earlier ones. The newer BMAX and >> BeeLink boxes might be better and at a fair price. However image rec >> CAN be very touchy ... not even two raccoons look quite the same and >> some hippie-dippys don't look SO much different from raccoons >> dontchaknow ... > > The problem would be collecting labeled images of raccoons. > > https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=54765 > > Separating cats from dogs is sort of a 'hello world' for image recognition > and the dataset is available. Raccoons not so much. That's a real problem > for supervised learning. Not only do you need a lot of raw data but it has > to be labeled, which at this point means a human is deciding what is a dog > or cat. > > https://www.raspberrypi.com/products/ai-kit/ > > There has been a lot of bitching since Qualcomm bought Arduino but it's > led to at least one new product. > > https://store-usa.arduino.cc/products/uno-q > > It's the equivalent of a RPi 5 with a Pico 2 hung off it. There is a model > with 4 GB of RAM in the pipeline which is still lighter than the Pi5. Um ... would still tend to buy either a microcontroller OR a CPU. Don't like weird un-optimised mixes. There was an earlier Ard with a (Linux-capable?) CPU spliced on. Didn't buy those either. >> Hey, I still sport something near the legacy 70s look ... 'stache and >> fairly prominent 'burns and as much hair as I can grow these days - >> don't forget yer past lest you forget yourself > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WGxSYOZVhlM > > >> Perhaps the easiest solution is to simply remove the outdoor >> feed/water thingie for awhile until the wildlife forgets. > > Raccoons never forget. I probably will shut down the feeder for the > winter. A couple of the cats are getting chubby and we can't have that in > MAHA.
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2025-11-27 19:03 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: Chemical photography |
| Message-ID | <morljoF4u3fU3@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #77944 |
On Wed, 26 Nov 2025 23:40:16 -0500, c186282 wrote: > Um ... would still tend to buy either a microcontroller OR a CPU. > Don't like weird un-optimised mixes. > > There was an earlier Ard with a (Linux-capable?) CPU spliced on. > Didn't buy those either. Yeah, Arduino had aspirations to the industrial controller market. Those were rather expensive as opposed to the $44 consumer friendly version. It's interesting it uses a ST Micro MCU. ST is very popular for commercial embedded development and has its own IDE. I think part of the reason it hasn't caught on with hobbyists is the selection process. You buy a Pico, you get a Pico. You buy a ST you spend half a day trying to figure out the part number for what you need.
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| From | c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> |
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| Date | 2025-11-27 22:36 -0500 |
| Subject | Re: Chemical photography |
| Message-ID | <3b6dnYzNbK5OhbT0nZ2dnZfqnPqdnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #77964 |
On 11/27/25 14:03, rbowman wrote: > On Wed, 26 Nov 2025 23:40:16 -0500, c186282 wrote: > >> Um ... would still tend to buy either a microcontroller OR a CPU. >> Don't like weird un-optimised mixes. >> >> There was an earlier Ard with a (Linux-capable?) CPU spliced on. >> Didn't buy those either. > > Yeah, Arduino had aspirations to the industrial controller market. Those > were rather expensive as opposed to the $44 consumer friendly version. > It's interesting it uses a ST Micro MCU. ST is very popular for commercial > embedded development and has its own IDE. I think part of the reason it > hasn't caught on with hobbyists is the selection process. You buy a Pico, > you get a Pico. You buy a ST you spend half a day trying to figure out the > part number for what you need. > You can go nuts trying to find THE Perfect Thing. Better to embrace the KISS principle and pick something Good Enough, something you can lightly hammer into what you need. Pico's are KISS ... an omni-tool that can be easily bent to fit a huge variety of needs - AND inexpensive. Hmmm ... had one boss who didn't want Linux around because it was FREE - equated Expensive with Better and, of course, expensive let him pad the dept budget.
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| From | candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> |
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| Date | 2025-12-01 21:50 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: Chemical photography |
| Message-ID | <slrn10is316.24lu5.candycanearter07@candydeb.host.invalid> |
| In reply to | #77984 |
c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> wrote at 03:36 this Friday (GMT): > On 11/27/25 14:03, rbowman wrote: >> On Wed, 26 Nov 2025 23:40:16 -0500, c186282 wrote: >> >>> Um ... would still tend to buy either a microcontroller OR a CPU. >>> Don't like weird un-optimised mixes. >>> >>> There was an earlier Ard with a (Linux-capable?) CPU spliced on. >>> Didn't buy those either. >> >> Yeah, Arduino had aspirations to the industrial controller market. Those >> were rather expensive as opposed to the $44 consumer friendly version. >> It's interesting it uses a ST Micro MCU. ST is very popular for commercial >> embedded development and has its own IDE. I think part of the reason it >> hasn't caught on with hobbyists is the selection process. You buy a Pico, >> you get a Pico. You buy a ST you spend half a day trying to figure out the >> part number for what you need. >> > > You can go nuts trying to find THE Perfect Thing. > > Better to embrace the KISS principle and pick > something Good Enough, something you can lightly > hammer into what you need. > > Pico's are KISS ... an omni-tool that can be > easily bent to fit a huge variety of needs - > AND inexpensive. Hopefully not literally hammered :) Anyways, I agree with KISS > Hmmm ... had one boss who didn't want Linux around > because it was FREE - equated Expensive with Better > and, of course, expensive let him pad the dept budget. The type who do that always annoy me, since thats how we end up dealing with buggy as hell software nobody can fix because the company doesn't care and also refuse to let the end user anywhere near the internals... -- user <candycane> is generated from /dev/urandom
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| From | "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-11-25 20:31 +0100 |
| Subject | Re: Chemical photography |
| Message-ID | <epchvlxmkq.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> |
| In reply to | #77908 |
On 2025-11-25 19:58, rbowman wrote: > On Tue, 25 Nov 2025 10:14:52 -0800, Bobbie Sellers wrote: > >> I think i considered buying something similar but since I had no > money >> for the temperature controlled tanks that were required I gave up the >> idea. > > I made it as far as a kit I had when I was a kid, probably produced by > Kodak. It was a plastic container where you loaded the film in the dark, > screwed the top on, and then poured the various chemicals in and out. It > might get you a visit from CPS these days letting a kid play with > chemicals unsupervised. > > My most recent brush with photography was several minutes ago as I > reviewed the photos on the game camera to find who was messing with the > cats' heated water bowl. I don't begrudge the raccoon the water but I wish > he would stop washing his filthy paws in the water. :-D -- Cheers, Carlos. ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;
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| From | c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> |
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| Date | 2025-11-25 22:00 -0500 |
| Subject | Re: Chemical photography |
| Message-ID | <xGSdnQJMXIDG8Lv0nZ2dnZfqn_idnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #77908 |
On 11/25/25 13:58, rbowman wrote: > On Tue, 25 Nov 2025 10:14:52 -0800, Bobbie Sellers wrote: > >> I think i considered buying something similar but since I had no > money >> for the temperature controlled tanks that were required I gave up the >> idea. > > I made it as far as a kit I had when I was a kid, probably produced by > Kodak. It was a plastic container where you loaded the film in the dark, > screwed the top on, and then poured the various chemicals in and out. It > might get you a visit from CPS these days letting a kid play with > chemicals unsupervised. > > My most recent brush with photography was several minutes ago as I > reviewed the photos on the game camera to find who was messing with the > cats' heated water bowl. I don't begrudge the raccoon the water but I wish > he would stop washing his filthy paws in the water. Well ... furnace igniter, some spark-plug wire, a button and ... :-)
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2025-11-26 05:08 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: Chemical photography |
| Message-ID | <mong9gFe6asU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #77919 |
On Tue, 25 Nov 2025 22:00:43 -0500, c186282 wrote: > On 11/25/25 13:58, rbowman wrote: >> On Tue, 25 Nov 2025 10:14:52 -0800, Bobbie Sellers wrote: >> >>> I think i considered buying something similar but since I had no >> money >>> for the temperature controlled tanks that were required I gave up the >>> idea. >> >> I made it as far as a kit I had when I was a kid, probably produced by >> Kodak. It was a plastic container where you loaded the film in the >> dark, screwed the top on, and then poured the various chemicals in and >> out. It might get you a visit from CPS these days letting a kid play >> with chemicals unsupervised. >> >> My most recent brush with photography was several minutes ago as I >> reviewed the photos on the game camera to find who was messing with the >> cats' heated water bowl. I don't begrudge the raccoon the water but I >> wish he would stop washing his filthy paws in the water. > > Well ... furnace igniter, some spark-plug wire, a button and ... :-) The project would escalate since the coon tends to show up a 4 AM. I'd wind up using PyTorch to create a model to differentiate raccoons from cats since random cats also show up otherwise I could use a PIR sensor. I've got a bunch of those. I might have to throw some skunk images into the training set too. Zapping a skunk might not be the best idea. The kibble feeder depredations make enough noise to wake me up so I can go out and shoot his furry ass with a pellet gun. That's become more difficult. He used to stand there and say "What the hell do you want?" but now he exits rapidly. They're cute and all but they're destructive little bastards.
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| From | The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-11-26 13:40 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: Chemical photography |
| Message-ID | <10g700c$d216$16@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #77921 |
On 26/11/2025 05:08, rbowman wrote: > They're cute and all but they're destructive little bastards. Ah,. Like female models.... -- Future generations will wonder in bemused amazement that the early twenty-first century’s developed world went into hysterical panic over a globally average temperature increase of a few tenths of a degree, and, on the basis of gross exaggerations of highly uncertain computer projections combined into implausible chains of inference, proceeded to contemplate a rollback of the industrial age. Richard Lindzen
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| From | The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-11-26 13:37 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: Chemical photography |
| Message-ID | <10g6vqr$d216$14@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #77908 |
On 25/11/2025 18:58, rbowman wrote: > I don't begrudge the raccoon the water but I wish > he would stop washing his filthy paws in the water. Raccoons are becoming domestic pets -- You can get much farther with a kind word and a gun than you can with a kind word alone. Al Capone
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2025-11-26 21:02 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: Chemical photography |
| Message-ID | <mop879FnfncU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #77927 |
On Wed, 26 Nov 2025 13:37:31 +0000, The Natural Philosopher wrote: > On 25/11/2025 18:58, rbowman wrote: >> I don't begrudge the raccoon the water but I wish he would stop washing >> his filthy paws in the water. > > Raccoons are becoming domestic pets I definitely don't need a trash panda as a pet. The semi-feral cats are bad enough. The old, arthritic Persian does have house privileges but she is more like a taxidermy exhibit that moves around sometimes.
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| From | Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> |
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| Date | 2025-11-26 13:29 -0800 |
| Subject | Re: Chemical photography |
| Message-ID | <10g7rg0$pt8q$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #77936 |
On 11/26/25 13:02, rbowman wrote: > On Wed, 26 Nov 2025 13:37:31 +0000, The Natural Philosopher wrote: > >> On 25/11/2025 18:58, rbowman wrote: >>> I don't begrudge the raccoon the water but I wish he would stop washing >>> his filthy paws in the water. >> >> Raccoons are becoming domestic pets > > I definitely don't need a trash panda as a pet. The semi-feral cats are > bad enough. The old, arthritic Persian does have house privileges but she > is more like a taxidermy exhibit that moves around sometimes. I think they have been used semi-domesticated as pets by people who are rich enough to pay for the damage their "pet" may inflict. Raccoons are possibly capable of domestication thru the same method as foxes have been turned into expensive pets. That is to say by selective breeding over a relatively few generations for the proper behavioral traits. These will be like dogs which is the domesticated version of wolves. Thus the wild versions of foxes or raccons will not be the same "race" as the domesticated. Likely they will be capable of interbreeding with the wild but they will have different markings and so forth. Domesticated animals can have colors and so forth that might not contribute to the survival of animals but which fanciers of the exotic pets will select for in breeding as we see in dogs or cats. bliss
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2025-11-27 01:57 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: Chemical photography |
| Message-ID | <mopph3Fpv6rU2@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #77938 |
On Wed, 26 Nov 2025 13:29:36 -0800, Bobbie Sellers wrote: > Domesticated animals can have colors and so forth that might not > contribute to the survival of animals but which fanciers of the exotic > pets will select for in breeding as we see in dogs or cats. A couple of years ago a Manx cat showed up. The cat had problems but seemed happy until a well meaning neighbor took her to the vets. That was the one way trip I thought it would be. Breeding them is controversial since a variety of problems go along with the mutation and many kittens die or are put down at birth. I assume the Manx was a case of taking Fluffy out to the country, kicking them out of the car, and wishing them good luck.
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| From | c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> |
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| Date | 2025-11-26 23:13 -0500 |
| Subject | Re: Chemical photography |
| Message-ID | <6k2dnWA3EPFEUrr0nZ2dnZfqnPGdnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #77938 |
On 11/26/25 16:29, Bobbie Sellers wrote: > > > On 11/26/25 13:02, rbowman wrote: >> On Wed, 26 Nov 2025 13:37:31 +0000, The Natural Philosopher wrote: >> >>> On 25/11/2025 18:58, rbowman wrote: >>>> I don't begrudge the raccoon the water but I wish he would stop washing >>>> his filthy paws in the water. >>> >>> Raccoons are becoming domestic pets >> >> I definitely don't need a trash panda as a pet. The semi-feral cats are >> bad enough. The old, arthritic Persian does have house privileges but she >> is more like a taxidermy exhibit that moves around sometimes. > > I think they have been used semi-domesticated as pets by people who > are rich enough to pay for the damage their "pet" may inflict. Raccoons > are > possibly capable of domestication thru the same method as foxes have > been turned into expensive pets. That is to say by selective breeding over > a relatively few generations for the proper behavioral traits. These will > be like dogs which is the domesticated version of wolves. Thus the wild > versions of foxes or raccons will not be the same "race" as the > domesticated. > Likely they will be capable of interbreeding with the wild but they will > have different markings and so forth. > > Domesticated animals can have colors and so forth that might not > contribute to the survival of animals but which fanciers of the exotic > pets will select for in breeding as we see in dogs or cats. Like in those movies, raccoons would probably be a good starting-point for IQ-enhancement genetic technology. Then there are apes ... but DO use bonobos and orangs instead of chimps. Some octopi could be good investments. Dolphins/orcas ... sorry, no hands = no future alas. We DO know the most critical genes/repeats required for better brains these days, so. Bet someone, probably in China, is doing this already. They're not so squeamish about 'mistakes' there ... into the incinerator, try again .....
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| From | The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-11-27 11:47 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: Chemical photography |
| Message-ID | <10g9doq$1bagg$10@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #77943 |
On 27/11/2025 04:13, c186282 wrote: > Like in those movies, raccoons would probably be > a good starting-point for IQ-enhancement genetic > technology. Then there are apes ... but DO use > bonobos and orangs instead of chimps. Some octopi > could be good investments. Dolphins/orcas ... sorry, > no hands = no future alas. We DO know the most > critical genes/repeats required for better brains > these days, so. > Giant killer Death Rrabbits strapped with explosives, fed on crystal meth and trained to home in onto the smell of cheap alcohol would be a game changer in Ukraine... > Bet someone, probably in China, is doing this > already. They're not so squeamish about 'mistakes' > there ... into the incinerator, try again ..... -- For every complex problem there is an answer that is clear, simple, and wrong. H.L.Mencken
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| From | c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> |
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| Date | 2025-11-27 22:09 -0500 |
| Subject | Re: Chemical photography |
| Message-ID | <3b6dnY3NbK7wj7T0nZ2dnZfqnPoAAAAA@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #77951 |
On 11/27/25 06:47, The Natural Philosopher wrote: > On 27/11/2025 04:13, c186282 wrote: >> Like in those movies, raccoons would probably be >> a good starting-point for IQ-enhancement genetic >> technology. Then there are apes ... but DO use >> bonobos and orangs instead of chimps. Some octopi >> could be good investments. Dolphins/orcas ... sorry, >> no hands = no future alas. We DO know the most >> critical genes/repeats required for better brains >> these days, so. >> > Giant killer Death Rrabbits strapped with explosives, fed on crystal > meth and trained to home in onto the smell of cheap alcohol would be a > game changer in Ukraine... Wow ... that'd make a GREAT 'B' movie ! Copyright immediately and sell it to Hollywood ! :-) "Rabbinators" ? >> Bet someone, probably in China, is doing this >> already. They're not so squeamish about 'mistakes' >> there ... into the incinerator, try again .....
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