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IBM and Red Hat

Started byCóilín Nioclásín Glostéir <thanks-to@Taf.com>
First post2026-10-06 15:24 +0000
Last post2026-10-12 09:08 -0700
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  IBM and Red Hat Cóilín Nioclásín Glostéir <thanks-to@Taf.com> - 2026-10-06 15:24 +0000
    Re: IBM and Red Hat Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-10-06 20:58 +0000
    Re: IBM and Red Hat c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-10-07 00:23 -0400
      Re: IBM and Red Hat John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-10-07 08:09 -0700
        Re: IBM and Red Hat Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-10-07 15:50 +0000
          Re: IBM and Red Hat rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-07 18:53 +0000
          Re: IBM and Red Hat c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-10-07 21:43 -0400
            Re: IBM and Red Hat Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-10-08 20:08 +0000
        Re: IBM and Red Hat c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-10-07 21:43 -0400
          Re: IBM and Red Hat "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-08 13:40 +0200
            Re: IBM and Red Hat c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-10-09 02:28 -0400
              Re: IBM and Red Hat The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-09 11:09 +0100
                Re: IBM and Red Hat Robert Riches <spamtrap42@jacob21819.net> - 2026-10-09 17:34 +0000
                  Re: IBM and Red Hat Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-10-09 23:08 +0000
                    Re: IBM and Red Hat The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-10 09:50 +0100
                      Re: IBM and Red Hat rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-10 20:11 +0000
                        Re: IBM and Red Hat Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-10-11 05:23 +0000
                Re: IBM and Red Hat "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-09 20:25 +0200
                Re: IBM and Red Hat rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-09 18:41 +0000
          Re: IBM and Red Hat John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-10-08 08:10 -0700
            Re: IBM and Red Hat "Rinaldi J. Montessi" <rinaldij@alien.free> - 2026-10-08 10:32 -0500
              Re: IBM and Red Hat John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-10-08 08:58 -0700
                Re: IBM and Red Hat "Rinaldi J. Montessi" <rinaldij@alien.free> - 2026-10-08 11:13 -0500
                Re: IBM and Red Hat rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-08 20:30 +0000
            Re: IBM and Red Hat The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-08 22:03 +0100
            Re: IBM and Red Hat c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-10-09 02:43 -0400
            Re: IBM and Red Hat Cóilín Nioclásín Glostéir <thanks-to@Taf.com> - 2026-10-10 18:52 +0000
              Re: IBM and Red Hat Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-10-10 20:22 +0000
                Re: IBM and Red Hat c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-10-11 00:13 -0400
              Re: IBM and Red Hat Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2026-10-11 10:37 +0000
                Re: IBM and Red Hat Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2026-10-11 08:29 -0400
                  Re: IBM and Red Hat The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-11 14:51 +0100
                    Re: IBM and Red Hat Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2026-10-11 13:24 -0400
                Re: IBM and Red Hat The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-11 14:53 +0100
                Re: IBM and Red Hat Nicolas Paul Colin de Glocester <thanks-to@Taf.com> - 2026-10-11 20:38 +0000
                  Re: IBM and Red Hat c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-10-12 00:38 -0400
                    Re: IBM and Red Hat Cóilín Nioclásín Glostéir <thanks-to@Taf.com> - 2026-10-12 20:29 +0000
                      Re: IBM and Red Hat c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-10-13 00:56 -0400
                        Re: IBM and Red Hat Cóilín Nioclásín Glostéir <thanks-to@Taf.com> - 2026-10-13 09:45 +0000
                      Re: IBM and Red Hat The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-13 08:14 +0100
                        Re: IBM and Red Hat rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-13 17:25 +0000
                          Re: IBM and Red Hat The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-13 18:38 +0100
                          Re: IBM and Red Hat Cóilín Nioclásín Glostéir <thanks-to@Taf.com> - 2026-10-13 17:47 +0000
                            Re: IBM and Red Hat c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-10-14 04:44 -0400
                              Re: IBM and Red Hat Cóilín Nioclásín Glostéir <thanks-to@Taf.com> - 2026-10-14 10:49 +0000
                                Re: IBM and Red Hat rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-14 19:28 +0000
                          Re: IBM and Red Hat Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-10-13 18:16 +0000
                            Re: IBM and Red Hat c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-10-13 22:22 -0400
              Re: IBM and Red Hat John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-10-12 09:08 -0700

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#93185

From"Rinaldi J. Montessi" <rinaldij@alien.free>
Date2026-10-08 10:32 -0500
Message-ID<58e2590e-25d9-4b36-9311-70ea381a65cf@invalid.com>
In reply to#93184
On 10/8/26 10:10 AM, John Ames wrote:
> On Wed, 7 Oct 2026 21:43:07 -0400
> c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> wrote:
-----------
>> BUT, Musk IS gonna try anyhow ...
> 
> I mean, he probably will, but this proves nothing beyond that he's a
> moron who thinks every problem can be solved by throwing money at it.

Musk is a moron?  Thanks for the first laugh of the day ;-)

Rinaldi
-- 
Cogito, ergo dubito

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#93186

FromJohn Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com>
Date2026-10-08 08:58 -0700
Message-ID<20261008085833.000035f8@gmail.com>
In reply to#93185
On Thu, 8 Oct 2026 10:32:18 -0500
"Rinaldi J. Montessi" <rinaldij@alien.free> wrote:

> > I mean, he probably will, but this proves nothing beyond that he's a
> > moron who thinks every problem can be solved by throwing money at
> > it.  
> 
> Musk is a moron?  Thanks for the first laugh of the day ;-)

He can't even succeed at buying off local elections. Blithering idiot.

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#93187

From"Rinaldi J. Montessi" <rinaldij@alien.free>
Date2026-10-08 11:13 -0500
Message-ID<e22aa033-71f0-48d5-bf65-ca31cb2d6755@invalid.com>
In reply to#93186
On 10/8/26 10:58 AM, John Ames wrote:
> On Thu, 8 Oct 2026 10:32:18 -0500
> "Rinaldi J. Montessi" <rinaldij@alien.free> wrote:
> 
>>> I mean, he probably will, but this proves nothing beyond that he's a
>>> moron who thinks every problem can be solved by throwing money at
>>> it.
>>
>> Musk is a moron?  Thanks for the first laugh of the day ;-)
> 
> He can't even succeed at buying off local elections. Blithering idiot.
> 

I thought that was Zuckerberg,  Soros, USAID, China, Iran, etc..

All the anti-capitalists using capitalism.

Rinaldi
-- 
Cogito, ergo dubito

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#93200

Fromrbowman <bowman@montana.com>
Date2026-10-08 20:30 +0000
Message-ID<niqcqeFp2dnU5@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#93186
On Thu, 8 Oct 2026 08:58:33 -0700, John Ames wrote:

> On Thu, 8 Oct 2026 10:32:18 -0500 "Rinaldi J. Montessi"
> <rinaldij@alien.free> wrote:
> 
>> > I mean, he probably will, but this proves nothing beyond that he's a
>> > moron who thinks every problem can be solved by throwing money at it.
>> 
>> Musk is a moron?  Thanks for the first laugh of the day ;-)
> 
> He can't even succeed at buying off local elections. Blithering idiot.

He needs lessons from AIPAC but I think he has offended them.

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#93204

FromThe Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid>
Date2026-10-08 22:03 +0100
Message-ID<11a90fb$73vs$4@dont-email.me>
In reply to#93184
On 08/10/2026 16:10, John Ames wrote:
> On Wed, 7 Oct 2026 21:43:07 -0400
> c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> wrote:
> 
>> Heh heh ... yea, heat-dissipation is a biggie in space, ONLY
>> 'radiation'. It'd take a huge radiator to keep those NVidia chips
>> cool.
>>
>> BUT, Musk IS gonna try anyhow ...
> 
> I mean, he probably will, but this proves nothing beyond that he's a
> moron who thinks every problem can be solved by throwing money at it.
> 
Actually he has proved to be a bit smarter than that. He has come up 
with problems that can be solved by throwing other peoples money at them

-- 
“The ultimate result of shielding men from the effects of folly is to 
fill the world with fools.”

Herbert Spencer

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#93232

Fromc186282 <c186282@nnada.net>
Date2026-10-09 02:43 -0400
Message-ID<jjydnQ_dHJFrEVX3nZ2dnZfqnPadnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#93184
On 10/8/26 11:10, John Ames wrote:
> On Wed, 7 Oct 2026 21:43:07 -0400
> c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> wrote:
> 
>> Heh heh ... yea, heat-dissipation is a biggie in space, ONLY
>> 'radiation'. It'd take a huge radiator to keep those NVidia chips
>> cool.
>>
>> BUT, Musk IS gonna try anyhow ...
> 
> I mean, he probably will, but this proves nothing beyond that he's a
> moron who thinks every problem can be solved by throwing money at it.

   Works more often than you'd think  :-)

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#93321

FromCóilín Nioclásín Glostéir <thanks-to@Taf.com>
Date2026-10-10 18:52 +0000
Message-ID<11ae1h3$s86$1@rasp.pasdenom.info>
In reply to#93184
Elon Reeve Musk is not a moron.
(S. HTTP://Gloucester.Insomnia247.NL/ fuer Kontaktdaten!)

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#93342

FromLawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid>
Date2026-10-10 20:22 +0000
Message-ID<11ae6qb$222p3$5@dont-email.me>
In reply to#93321
On Sat, 10 Oct 2026 18:52:21 -0000 (UTC), Cóilín Nioclásín Glostéir wrote:

> Elon Reeve Musk is not a moron.

No, he just acts like one.

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#93353

Fromc186282 <c186282@nnada.net>
Date2026-10-11 00:13 -0400
Message-ID<0b2cndVIwK1TkVb3nZ2dnZfqn_udnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#93342
On 10/10/26 16:22, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:
> On Sat, 10 Oct 2026 18:52:21 -0000 (UTC), Cóilín Nioclásín Glostéir wrote:
> 
>> Elon Reeve Musk is not a moron.
> 
> No, he just acts like one.

   No, just kind of "spectrum".

   What, are you a bigot or something ?

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#93396

FromStéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr>
Date2026-10-11 10:37 +0000
Message-ID<6acb66e9$0$7096$426a74cc@news.free.fr>
In reply to#93321
Le 10-10-2026, Cóilín Nioclásín Glostéir <thanks-to@Taf.com> a écrit :
> Elon Reeve Musk is not a moron.

===============================================================
https://mastodon.social/@rodhilton/109572674700288958
He talked about electric cars. I don't know anything about cars, so when
people said he was a genius I figured he must be a genius.

Then he talked about rockets. I don't know anything about rockets, so
when people said he was a genius I figured he must be a genius.

Now he talks about software. I happen to know a lot about software &
Elon Musk is saying the stupidest shit I've ever heard anyone say, so
when people say he's a genius I figure I should stay the hell away from
his cars and rockets.
	Rod Hilton
===============================================================

I have nothing better to say than I fully agree with Rod Hilton.

-- 
Si vous avez du temps à perdre :
https://scarpet42.gitlab.io

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#93400

FromChris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us>
Date2026-10-11 08:29 -0400
Message-ID<11afvfp$2k4dq$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#93396
Stéphane CARPENTIER wrote this screed in ALL-CAPS (fixed):

> Le 10-10-2026, Cóilín Nioclásín Glostéir <thanks-to@Taf.com> a écrit :
>> Elon Reeve Musk is not a moron.
>
> ===============================================================
> https://mastodon.social/@rodhilton/109572674700288958
> He talked about electric cars. I don't know anything about cars, so when
> people said he was a genius I figured he must be a genius.
>
> Then he talked about rockets. I don't know anything about rockets, so
> when people said he was a genius I figured he must be a genius.
>
> Now he talks about software. I happen to know a lot about software &
> Elon Musk is saying the stupidest shit I've ever heard anyone say, so
> when people say he's a genius I figure I should stay the hell away from
> his cars and rockets.
> 	Rod Hilton
> ===============================================================
>
> I have nothing better to say than I fully agree with Rod Hilton.

Idiot Musk thinks we'll eventually have a million people living on
Mars.

-- 
"Hi, I'm Professor Alan Ginsburg... But you can call me... Captain Toke."
		-- John Lovitz, as ex-Supreme Court nominee Alan Ginsburg, on SNL

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#93404

FromThe Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid>
Date2026-10-11 14:51 +0100
Message-ID<11ag489$2m7ll$3@dont-email.me>
In reply to#93400
On 11/10/2026 13:29, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
> Stéphane CARPENTIER wrote this screed in ALL-CAPS (fixed):
> 
>> Le 10-10-2026, Cóilín Nioclásín Glostéir <thanks-to@Taf.com> a écrit :
>>> Elon Reeve Musk is not a moron.
>>
>> ===============================================================
>> https://mastodon.social/@rodhilton/109572674700288958
>> He talked about electric cars. I don't know anything about cars, so when
>> people said he was a genius I figured he must be a genius.
>>
>> Then he talked about rockets. I don't know anything about rockets, so
>> when people said he was a genius I figured he must be a genius.
>>
>> Now he talks about software. I happen to know a lot about software &
>> Elon Musk is saying the stupidest shit I've ever heard anyone say, so
>> when people say he's a genius I figure I should stay the hell away from
>> his cars and rockets.
>> 	Rod Hilton
>> ===============================================================
>>
>> I have nothing better to say than I fully agree with Rod Hilton.
> 
> Idiot Musk thinks we'll eventually have a million people living on
> Mars.
> 
It's possible eventually. Could send all the commies to the Red Planet 
along with the telephone sanitizers...

-- 
"Women actually are capable of being far more than the feminists will 
let them."

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#93418

FromChris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us>
Date2026-10-11 13:24 -0400
Message-ID<11aggoj$2r5e3$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#93404
The Natural Philosopher wrote this screed in ALL-CAPS (fixed):

> On 11/10/2026 13:29, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>> Stéphane CARPENTIER wrote this screed in ALL-CAPS (fixed):
>> 
>>> Le 10-10-2026, Cóilín Nioclásín Glostéir <thanks-to@Taf.com> a écrit :
>>>> Elon Reeve Musk is not a moron.
>>>
>>> ===============================================================
>>> https://mastodon.social/@rodhilton/109572674700288958
>>> He talked about electric cars. I don't know anything about cars, so when
>>> people said he was a genius I figured he must be a genius.
>>>
>>> Then he talked about rockets. I don't know anything about rockets, so
>>> when people said he was a genius I figured he must be a genius.
>>>
>>> Now he talks about software. I happen to know a lot about software &
>>> Elon Musk is saying the stupidest shit I've ever heard anyone say, so
>>> when people say he's a genius I figure I should stay the hell away from
>>> his cars and rockets.
>>> 	Rod Hilton
>>> ===============================================================
>>>
>>> I have nothing better to say than I fully agree with Rod Hilton.
>> 
>> Idiot Musk thinks we'll eventually have a million people living on
>> Mars.
>> 
> It's possible eventually. Could send all the commies to the Red Planet 
> along with the telephone sanitizers...

    <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_City_on_Mars>

-- 
Heavier than air flying machines are impossible.
		-- Lord Kelvin, President, Royal Society, c. 1895

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#93406

FromThe Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid>
Date2026-10-11 14:53 +0100
Message-ID<11ag4di$2m7ll$5@dont-email.me>
In reply to#93396
On 11/10/2026 11:37, Stéphane CARPENTIER wrote:
> Now he talks about software. I happen to know a lot about software &
> Elon Musk is saying the stupidest shit I've ever heard anyone say, so
> when people say he's a genius I figure I should stay the hell away from
> his cars and rockets.
> 	Rod Hilton
> ===============================================================
> 
> I have nothing better to say than I fully agree with Rod Hilton.

These charismatic entrepreneurs are all the same.
Their genius lies in identifying people smarter than they are, to work 
for them, while identifying investors stupider than they are, to finance it.

-- 
Those who want slavery should have the grace to name it by its proper 
name. They must face the full meaning of that which they are advocating 
or condoning; the full, exact, specific meaning of collectivism, of its 
logical implications, of the principles upon which it is based, and of 
the ultimate consequences to which these principles will lead. They must 
face it, then decide whether this is what they want or not.

Ayn Rand.

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#93439

FromNicolas Paul Colin de Glocester <thanks-to@Taf.com>
Date2026-10-11 20:38 +0000
Message-ID<11ags3e$1ok10$3@paganini.bofh.team>
In reply to#93396
Stéphane CARPENTIER :
|--------------------------------------------------------------------|
|"[. . .]                                                            |
|                                                                    |
|Now he talks about software. I happen to know a lot about software &|
|[. . .]                                                             |
|        Rod Hilton                                                  |
|===============================================================     |
|                                                                    |
|I have nothing better to say than I fully agree with Rod Hilton."   |
|--------------------------------------------------------------------|

A person on news:comp.lang.ada criticizes Musk software over not being
written in Ada. I do not know whether or not Musk uses Ada.
(S. HTTP://Gloucester.Insomnia247.NL/ fuer Kontaktdaten!)

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#93451

Fromc186282 <c186282@nnada.net>
Date2026-10-12 00:38 -0400
Message-ID<2tadnUaJXZGw-VH3nZ2dnZfqn_idnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#93439
On 10/11/26 16:38, Nicolas Paul Colin de Glocester wrote:
> Stéphane CARPENTIER :
> |--------------------------------------------------------------------|
> |"[. . .]                                                            |
> |                                                                    |
> |Now he talks about software. I happen to know a lot about software &|
> |[. . .]                                                             |
> |        Rod Hilton                                                  |
> |===============================================================     |
> |                                                                    |
> |I have nothing better to say than I fully agree with Rod Hilton."   |
> |--------------------------------------------------------------------|
> 
> A person on news:comp.lang.ada criticizes Musk software over not being
> written in Ada. I do not know whether or not Musk uses Ada.
> (S. HTTP://Gloucester.Insomnia247.NL/ fuer Kontaktdaten!)

   Does ANYONE use Ada anymore ???

   It's a FRUSTRATING language, puts barriers
   behind barriers to keep you from doing what
   you need to do in any sane/efficient manner.

   No wonder the govt loved it.

   And NOT sure that makes it so much 'safer'.
   Well-done 'C'/FORTRAN/COBOL can be as good.

   Wrote a few shortish programs in Ada just to
   try it out, lists pointing to lists pointing
   to lists and similar fun, mini-database kind
   of stuff. Never again.

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#93545

FromCóilín Nioclásín Glostéir <thanks-to@Taf.com>
Date2026-10-12 20:29 +0000
Message-ID<11ajfui$22rel$2@paganini.bofh.team>
In reply to#93451
C186282 <c186282@nnada.net> wrote:
|----------------------------------|
|"  Does ANYONE use Ada anymore ???|
|                                  |
|[. . .]"                          |
|----------------------------------|

Yes. This is a crosspost to comp.lang.ada
(S. HTTP://Gloucester.Insomnia247.NL/ fuer Kontaktdaten!)

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#93557

Fromc186282 <c186282@nnada.net>
Date2026-10-13 00:56 -0400
Message-ID<U-OdnTwCTtl0JFD3nZ2dnZfqn_idnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#93545
On 10/12/26 16:29, Cóilín Nioclásín Glostéir wrote:
> C186282 <c186282@nnada.net> wrote:
> |----------------------------------|
> |"  Does ANYONE use Ada anymore ???|
> |                                  |
> |[. . .]"                          |
> |----------------------------------|
> 
> Yes. This is a crosspost to comp.lang.ada
> (S. HTTP://Gloucester.Insomnia247.NL/ fuer Kontaktdaten!)

   Just for the record, I don't think they SHOULD
   be using Ada. A highly imperfect 'solution' for
   a largely imaginary peril. Would be interested
   in seeing data on the suicide rate for Ada
   programmers though  :-)

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#93573

FromCóilín Nioclásín Glostéir <thanks-to@Taf.com>
Date2026-10-13 09:45 +0000
Message-ID<11akujh$2ajhn$1@paganini.bofh.team>
In reply to#93557
C186282 <c186282@nnada.net> wrote:
|--------------------------------------------|
|"[. . .] Would be interested                |
|  in seeing data on the suicide rate for Ada|
|  programmers though  :-)"                  |
|--------------------------------------------|

I believe that no Ada programmer ever commits a suicide. I am an
Adaist who will never choose to commit a suicide!
(S. HTTP://Gloucester.Insomnia247.NL/ fuer Kontaktdaten!)

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#93562

FromThe Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid>
Date2026-10-13 08:14 +0100
Message-ID<11aklnr$add0$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#93545
On 12/10/2026 21:29, Cóilín Nioclásín Glostéir wrote:
> C186282 <c186282@nnada.net> wrote:
> |----------------------------------|
> |"  Does ANYONE use Ada anymore ???|
> |                                  |
> |[. . .]"                          |
> |----------------------------------|
> 
> Yes. This is a crosspost to comp.lang.ada
> (S. HTTP://Gloucester.Insomnia247.NL/ fuer Kontaktdaten!)

I don't use corncobs to wipe my arse either

-- 
WOKE is an acronym... Without Originality, Knowledge or Education.

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