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| Started by | "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
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| First post | 2025-07-16 13:44 +0200 |
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Trouble with laptop display "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-07-16 13:44 +0200
Re: Trouble with laptop display Marco Moock <mm@dorfdsl.de> - 2025-07-16 14:00 +0200
Re: Trouble with laptop display Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> - 2025-07-16 13:22 +0100
Re: Trouble with laptop display "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-07-16 20:43 +0200
Re: Trouble with laptop display Marco Moock <mm@dorfdsl.de> - 2025-07-17 08:06 +0200
Re: Trouble with laptop display "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-07-17 12:16 +0200
Re: Trouble with laptop display Arkadiusz 'Black Fox' Artyszuk <blackfox_pl@protonmail.com> - 2025-07-16 14:20 +0200
Re: Trouble with laptop display Robert Heller <heller@deepsoft.com> - 2025-07-16 12:39 +0000
Re: Trouble with laptop display Herbert Kleebauer <klee@unibwm.de> - 2025-07-16 14:43 +0200
Re: Trouble with laptop display Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-07-16 10:29 -0400
Re: Trouble with laptop display "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-07-16 20:42 +0200
Re: Trouble with laptop display The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-16 16:49 +0100
Re: Trouble with laptop display VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-07-16 11:52 -0500
Re: Trouble with laptop display "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-07-16 20:41 +0200
Re: Trouble with laptop display Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> - 2025-07-16 21:11 +0100
Re: Trouble with laptop display Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-07-16 17:21 -0400
Re: Trouble with laptop display "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2025-07-16 20:12 +0100
Re: Trouble with laptop display Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-07-16 17:15 -0400
Re: Trouble with laptop display not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2025-07-17 09:10 +1000
Re: Trouble with laptop display Jack <Jack@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-16 19:09 +0000
Re: Trouble with laptop display "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-07-16 22:30 +0200
Re: Trouble with laptop display Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-07-16 16:58 -0700
Re: Trouble with laptop display Robert Heller <heller@deepsoft.com> - 2025-07-17 01:58 +0000
Re: Trouble with laptop display Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-07-17 03:29 +0000
Re: Trouble with laptop display "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-07-17 12:21 +0200
Re: Trouble with laptop display VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-07-16 18:12 -0500
Re: Trouble with laptop display Paul in Houston TX <Paul@Houston.Texas> - 2025-07-16 20:42 -0500
Re: Trouble with laptop display "J.O. Aho" <user@example.net> - 2025-07-17 08:34 +0200
Re: Trouble with laptop display c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-07-17 03:37 -0400
Re: Trouble with laptop display "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2025-07-17 10:16 +0100
Re: Trouble with laptop display "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-07-17 13:00 +0200
Re: Trouble with laptop display The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-17 13:50 +0100
Re: Trouble with laptop display "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2025-07-17 17:04 +0100
Re: Trouble with laptop display VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-07-17 13:11 -0500
Re: Trouble with laptop display "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-07-17 20:25 +0200
Re: Trouble with laptop display The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-17 19:58 +0100
Re: Trouble with laptop display "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-07-18 08:51 +0200
Re: Trouble with laptop display Simon <SimonJ@eu.invalid> - 2025-07-18 06:04 +0000
Re: Trouble with laptop display The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-18 11:12 +0100
Re: Trouble with laptop display "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-07-18 12:48 +0200
Re: Trouble with laptop display The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-18 13:31 +0100
Re: Trouble with laptop display The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-17 19:57 +0100
Re: Trouble with laptop display The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-17 19:50 +0100
Re: Trouble with laptop display VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-07-17 13:04 -0500
Re: Trouble with laptop display "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-07-17 20:29 +0200
Re: Trouble with laptop display The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-17 19:56 +0100
Re: Trouble with laptop display "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-07-18 09:01 +0200
Re: Trouble with laptop display The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-18 11:14 +0100
Re: Trouble with laptop display "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-07-18 12:26 +0200
Re: Trouble with laptop display The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-18 13:29 +0100
Re: Trouble with laptop display "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-07-18 21:18 +0200
Re: Trouble with laptop display VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-07-17 16:22 -0500
Re: Trouble with laptop display "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-07-18 09:13 +0200
Re: Trouble with laptop display "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2025-07-18 10:53 +0100
Re: Trouble with laptop display VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-07-18 18:47 -0500
Re: Trouble with laptop display "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-07-19 02:12 +0200
Re: Trouble with laptop display Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid> - 2025-07-18 19:53 -0500
Re: Trouble with laptop display VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-07-18 20:45 -0500
Re: Trouble with laptop display Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid> - 2025-07-18 21:22 -0500
mini-PC (was: Trouble with laptop display) Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-07-18 19:58 +0000
Re: mini-PC "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-07-18 22:28 +0200
Re: mini-PC (was: Trouble with laptop display) c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-07-18 23:38 -0400
Re: Trouble with laptop display Robert <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-17 21:56 +0000
Re: Trouble with laptop display "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-07-18 09:49 +0200
Re: Trouble with laptop display "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-07-18 11:08 +0200
Re: Trouble with laptop display The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-18 11:11 +0100
Re: Trouble with laptop display "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-07-18 12:22 +0200
Re: Trouble with laptop display Jack <Jack@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-18 20:24 +0000
Re: Trouble with laptop display The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-18 22:05 +0100
Re: Trouble with laptop display Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-07-18 18:31 -0400
Re: Trouble with laptop display The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-19 00:50 +0100
Re: Trouble with laptop display "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2025-07-19 01:35 +0100
Re: Trouble with laptop display Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-07-18 19:42 -0700
Re: Trouble with laptop display "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-07-19 15:11 +0200
Re: Trouble with laptop display Simon <SimonJ@eu.invalid> - 2025-07-19 13:36 +0000
Re: Trouble with laptop display not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2025-07-20 09:55 +1000
Re: Trouble with laptop display rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-07-20 02:02 +0000
Re: Trouble with laptop display Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-07-20 21:10 +1000
Re: Trouble with laptop display Simon <SimonJ@eu.invalid> - 2025-07-20 05:00 +0000
Re: Trouble with laptop display Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-07-19 21:43 -0700
Re: Trouble with laptop display rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-07-20 05:29 +0000
Re: Trouble with laptop display Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-07-20 07:34 -0400
Re: Trouble with laptop display "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-07-20 21:04 +0200
Re: Trouble with laptop display Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-07-20 14:40 -0700
Re: Trouble with laptop display Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-07-20 20:43 -0400
Re: Trouble with laptop display rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-07-21 04:42 +0000
Re: Trouble with laptop display rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-07-20 19:50 +0000
Re: Trouble with laptop display Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-07-21 19:41 +1000
Re: Trouble with laptop display "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-07-21 12:16 +0200
Re: Trouble with laptop display Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-07-21 22:26 +1000
Re: Trouble with laptop display Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-07-21 17:35 +0000
Re: Trouble with laptop display "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-07-21 19:55 +0200
Re: Trouble with laptop display Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-07-21 17:37 -0400
Re: Trouble with laptop display "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-07-22 00:36 +0200
Re: Trouble with laptop display Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-07-22 19:57 +1000
Re: Trouble with laptop display "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-07-22 12:08 +0200
Re: Trouble with laptop display Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-07-22 21:38 +1000
Re: Trouble with laptop display The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-22 12:46 +0100
Re: Trouble with laptop display The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-20 12:54 +0100
Re: Trouble with laptop display "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-07-20 20:55 +0200
Re: Trouble with laptop display The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-20 20:22 +0100
Re: Trouble with laptop display rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-07-20 19:54 +0000
Re: Trouble with laptop display Simon <SimonJ@eu.invalid> - 2025-07-21 09:02 +0000
Re: Trouble with laptop display Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-07-19 21:44 -0700
Re: Trouble with laptop display Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> - 2025-07-20 13:41 +0100
Re: Trouble with laptop display "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2025-07-20 17:52 +0100
Re: Trouble with laptop display "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-07-20 21:05 +0200
Re: Trouble with laptop display rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-07-20 19:56 +0000
Re: Trouble with laptop display Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> - 2025-07-21 12:55 +0100
Re: Trouble with laptop display Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-07-20 15:00 -0700
Re: Trouble with laptop display Robert Riches <spamtrap42@jacob21819.net> - 2025-07-22 02:43 +0000
Re: Trouble with laptop display "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-07-18 23:25 +0200
Re: Trouble with laptop display "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-07-19 00:07 +0200
Re: Trouble with laptop display - drm ebook fallout "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-06 14:29 +0200
Re: Trouble with laptop display - drm ebook fallout Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-08-06 18:04 +0000
Re: Trouble with laptop display - drm ebook fallout "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-06 20:33 +0200
Re: Trouble with laptop display - drm ebook fallout "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2025-08-06 23:39 +0100
Re: Trouble with laptop display - drm ebook fallout Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-08-07 00:36 +0000
Re: Trouble with laptop display - drm ebook fallout rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-07 01:53 +0000
Re: Trouble with laptop display - drm ebook fallout "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-07 13:53 +0200
Re: Trouble with laptop display - drm ebook fallout Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-08-07 20:01 +1000
Re: Trouble with laptop display - drm ebook fallout "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2025-08-07 13:05 +0100
Re: Trouble with laptop display The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-18 11:08 +0100
Re: Trouble with laptop display "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-07-18 21:22 +0200
Re: Trouble with laptop display Jasen Betts <usenet@revmaps.no-ip.org> - 2025-10-22 11:04 +0000
Re: Trouble with laptop display "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-22 13:44 +0200
Re: Trouble with laptop display The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-22 12:52 +0100
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| From | The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-07-20 20:22 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <105jflk$3ghoh$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #69786 |
On 20/07/2025 19:55, Carlos E.R. wrote: > On 2025-07-20 06:43, Bobbie Sellers wrote: >> >> >> On 7/19/25 06:36, Simon wrote: >>> On Sat, 19 Jul 2025 15:11:59 +0200, Carlos E.R. wrote: >>> >>>> On 2025-07-19 04:42, Bobbie Sellers wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 7/18/25 15:31, Paul wrote: >>>>>> On Fri, 7/18/2025 5:05 PM, The Natural Philosopher wrote: >>>>>>> On 18/07/2025 21:24, Jack wrote: >>>>>>>> On 18/07/2025 11:11, The Natural Philosopher wrote: >>>>>>>>> So if it is *merely* a display problem perhaps you >>>>>>>>> could send it to all the peole here who thingk that >>>>>>>>> replacing a screen and cable is a doddle..:-) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The thing(s) most users of laptops can do themselves >>>>>>>> are: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Change/upgrade HDD/SSD Upgrade Memory Apply new CPU >>>>>>>> thermal paste Clean internal fan Change keyboard (but >>>>>>>> very rarely!!) Change battery (but requires unscrewing >>>>>>>> the old one on thin laptops - not accessible easily >>>>>>>> these days) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> Unfortunately all these require one thing most users of >>>>>>> laptops *cannot* do themselves Open the fucking thing up >>>>>>> without destroying it! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Anything else requires careful cost/benefit analysis. >>>>>> >>>>>> They're just screws, they won't bite :-) >>>>> >>>>> No but they will roll away and hide. Use a clean unused >>>>> muffin tin to confine them to work area. >>>> >>>> If you can grab them before they jump. >>>> >>>> >>>> Also, not all of them are the same thread, or the same length. >>>> So using a single tin is problematic. >> >> Oh you unfamiliar with the concept! A muffin tin is a baking tool >> that has a number of cups to hold the muffin dough. So that one >> tin has from 8 to 12 cups on it and the fewer cups, the larger the >> individual cup are so that your screws have plenty of space> > > Oh, language problem here. I did not realize what muffin tin you were > talking about. English is not my first language. > That's not English, that's American. WE used to fall them way back 'patty pans' but the modern equivalent is a bun tray. Patty pan having being grabbed by americans to mean a type of squash that resembles the old decorated patty pan. > Ice cube boxes :-) Or egg boxes. > > I had forgotten them. > Good thoughts. Or even fishing tackle boxes. https://www.amazon.com/Samdely-HyperSeal-Waterproof-Removable-13-98x8-86x2-17/dp/B0F8HVTWXB The purpose made disassembly pads are supposed to be good. https://www.amazon.com/Kaisi-Insulation-Silicone-Position-Soldering/dp/B07DGTJ463 > In my 20x I could disassemble something and remember where everything > went. Not any longer. > That's why god gave you a mobile phone with a camera -- “There are two ways to be fooled. One is to believe what isn’t true; the other is to refuse to believe what is true.” —Soren Kierkegaard
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2025-07-20 19:54 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <me4vrfFj879U5@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #69786 |
On Sun, 20 Jul 2025 20:55:31 +0200, Carlos E.R. wrote: > In my 20x I could disassemble something and remember where everything > went. Not any longer. There is that sinking feeling when you have everything buttoned up and realize you have a screw left over. That's when you start singing the old Meatloaf song. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HVvXWUAKtus
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| From | Simon <SimonJ@eu.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-07-21 09:02 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <105kvns$3sm2n$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #69791 |
On 20 Jul 2025 19:54:24 GMT, rbowman wrote: > There is that sinking feeling when you have everything buttoned up and > realize you have a screw left over. That's when you start singing the > old Meatloaf song. > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HVvXWUAKtus I used to be a printer technician and it was a joke to add a screw to a colleagues bench while not looking to cause this. Of course it was soon not funny and the boss stopped it. -- Simon RLU: 222126
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| From | Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> |
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| Date | 2025-07-19 21:44 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <105hs6u$36j6t$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #69756 |
On 7/19/25 06:36, Simon wrote: > On Sat, 19 Jul 2025 15:11:59 +0200, Carlos E.R. wrote: > >> On 2025-07-19 04:42, Bobbie Sellers wrote: >>> >>> >>> On 7/18/25 15:31, Paul wrote: >>>> On Fri, 7/18/2025 5:05 PM, The Natural Philosopher wrote: >>>>> On 18/07/2025 21:24, Jack wrote: >>>>>> On 18/07/2025 11:11, The Natural Philosopher wrote: >>>>>>> So if it is *merely* a display problem perhaps you could send it to >>>>>>> all the peole here who thingk that replacing a screen and cable is >>>>>>> a doddle..:-) >>>>>> >>>>>> The thing(s) most users of laptops can do themselves are: >>>>>> >>>>>> Change/upgrade HDD/SSD Upgrade Memory Apply new CPU thermal paste >>>>>> Clean internal fan Change keyboard (but very rarely!!) >>>>>> Change battery (but requires unscrewing the old one on thin laptops >>>>>> - not accessible easily these days) >>>>>> >>>>> Unfortunately all these require one thing most users of laptops >>>>> *cannot* do themselves Open the fucking thing up without destroying >>>>> it! >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Anything else requires careful cost/benefit analysis. >>>> >>>> They're just screws, they won't bite :-) >>> >>> No but they will roll away and hide. Use a clean unused muffin >>> tin >>> to confine them to work area. >> >> If you can grab them before they jump. >> >> >> Also, not all of them are the same thread, or the same length. So using >> a single tin is problematic. Oh you unfamiliar with the concept! A muffin tin is a baking tool that has a number of cups to hold the muffin dough. So that one tin has from 8 to 12 cups on it and the fewer cups, the larger the individual cup are so that your screws have plenty of space> > > You should note what came from where, a very simple way to document it all > is to video the disassembly, then you can refer back when rebuilding it. > In any video the problem is distinguishing any tiny part from another. Pay very close attention to what you are doing. bliss- Dell Precision 7730- PCLOS 2025.07- Linux 6.12.39- Plasma 5.27.11
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| From | Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-07-20 13:41 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <105io51$3bp45$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #69755 |
On 2025-07-19 14:11, Carlos E.R. wrote: > > [screws] > > Also, not all of them are the same thread, or the same length. So using > a single tin is problematic. I use a large clutter free workspace like, say, a cleared kitchen worktop, and as I remove the screws I place them within named circles on a sheet of paper which I place slightly apart from the rest of the work so that it will not be disturbed - depending on the laptop usually you'll need circles such as Keyboard, Palm Rest, HD, DVD, Screen, Base, etc. That way I know which screws belong where, regardless of slight differences is length or thread, etc. -- Fake news kills! I may be contacted via the contact address given on my website: www.macfh.co.uk
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| From | "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> |
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| Date | 2025-07-20 17:52 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <105j6rp$3e7uq$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #69772 |
On 2025/7/20 13:41:3, Java Jive wrote:
> On 2025-07-19 14:11, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>>
>> [screws]
>>
>> Also, not all of them are the same thread, or the same length. So
>> using a single tin is problematic.
>
> I use a large clutter free workspace like, say, a cleared kitchen
> worktop, and as I remove the screws I place them within named circles on
> a sheet of paper which I place slightly apart from the rest of the work
> so that it will not be disturbed - depending on the laptop usually
> you'll need circles such as Keyboard, Palm Rest, HD, DVD, Screen, Base,
> etc. That way I know which screws belong where, regardless of slight
> differences is length or thread, etc.
>
That's very organised.
I use a slightly inferior method: when taking screws out of something
(most recently my record player), I lay them down in a more or less
mimic diagram of where they came from. This is inferior because (a) it's
susceptible to disturbance [though come to think of it that applies to
your method too] and (b) it takes more space [oh, and {c} it only easily
works for screws taken out of one side], but it serves me most of the
time. (It also helps that I live alone, so things _are_ less likely to
be disturbed.)
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf
"Get off my turf!" screamed Pooh, as he shot at Paddington.
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| From | "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-07-20 21:05 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <i9rvklx35j.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> |
| In reply to | #69772 |
On 2025-07-20 14:41, Java Jive wrote: > On 2025-07-19 14:11, Carlos E.R. wrote: >> >> [screws] >> >> Also, not all of them are the same thread, or the same length. So >> using a single tin is problematic. > > I use a large clutter free workspace like, say, a cleared kitchen > worktop, and as I remove the screws I place them within named circles on > a sheet of paper which I place slightly apart from the rest of the work > so that it will not be disturbed - depending on the laptop usually > you'll need circles such as Keyboard, Palm Rest, HD, DVD, Screen, Base, > etc. That way I know which screws belong where, regardless of slight > differences is length or thread, etc. > Nowdays I would tape the screws to a paper and label them. -- Cheers, Carlos.
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2025-07-20 19:56 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <me4vumFj879U6@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #69772 |
On Sun, 20 Jul 2025 13:41:03 +0100, Java Jive wrote: > On 2025-07-19 14:11, Carlos E.R. wrote: >> >> [screws] >> >> Also, not all of them are the same thread, or the same length. So using >> a single tin is problematic. > > I use a large clutter free workspace like, say, a cleared kitchen > worktop, and as I remove the screws I place them within named circles on > a sheet of paper which I place slightly apart from the rest of the work > so that it will not be disturbed - depending on the laptop usually > you'll need circles such as Keyboard, Palm Rest, HD, DVD, Screen, Base, > etc. That way I know which screws belong where, regardless of slight > differences is length or thread, etc. One word -- cat
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| From | Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-07-21 12:55 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <105l9rf$3ufne$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #69792 |
On 2025-07-20 20:56, rbowman wrote: > On Sun, 20 Jul 2025 13:41:03 +0100, Java Jive wrote: > >> On 2025-07-19 14:11, Carlos E.R. wrote: >>> >>> [screws] >>> >>> Also, not all of them are the same thread, or the same length. So using >>> a single tin is problematic. >> >> I use a large clutter free workspace like, say, a cleared kitchen >> worktop, and as I remove the screws I place them within named circles on >> a sheet of paper which I place slightly apart from the rest of the work >> so that it will not be disturbed - depending on the laptop usually >> you'll need circles such as Keyboard, Palm Rest, HD, DVD, Screen, Base, >> etc. That way I know which screws belong where, regardless of slight >> differences is length or thread, etc. > > One word -- cat I've not owned any pets since I was a child ... except ... https://www.macfh.co.uk/Macfarlane/Reminiscences/VicarDogCatDuck.html -- Fake news kills! I may be contacted via the contact address given on my website: www.macfh.co.uk
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| From | Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> |
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| Date | 2025-07-20 15:00 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <105jouq$3i7u9$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #69772 |
On 7/20/25 05:41, Java Jive wrote: > On 2025-07-19 14:11, Carlos E.R. wrote: >> >> [screws] >> >> Also, not all of them are the same thread, or the same length. So >> using a single tin is problematic. > > I use a large clutter free workspace like, say, a cleared kitchen > worktop, and as I remove the screws I place them within named circles on > a sheet of paper which I place slightly apart from the rest of the work > so that it will not be disturbed - depending on the laptop usually > you'll need circles such as Keyboard, Palm Rest, HD, DVD, Screen, Base, > etc. That way I know which screws belong where, regardless of slight > differences is length or thread, etc. > You are blessed to live in a spacious place. Before I got into computing I found what had been a cafeteria table top. I had eaten at that cafeteria before so I recognized it. I carried the heavy thing back to my apartment and when I have some sort of work to do in real life as opposed to on the computer I bring it out and set it on my bed to do my work with room on the bed for various parts and the muffin tin for the screws. I wear anti-static gloves for all this sort of work. and havc a full set of screwdrivers from the days when Radio Shack was only a few blocks away at serveral locations. I am not very capable but I have the support of long experience and the simplifications by the makers of computers. I mean once you dug into a 1980s Amiga 1000 you had a great mess of connectors and more copper connecting pins than you could shake a stick at. And CBM used molded 68000 chips which were brittle and had to be replaced with a machined chip which could stay the course. Now-a-days no more chip pulling and filling memory cards with chips to enlarge the capacity, just open boxes up and add 16 GB of ram or a Terabyte of SSD. Open the box the chips or SSD come in may be the most difficult part of the procedure. Good luck to all you people who undertake the do it yourself route. bliss
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| From | Robert Riches <spamtrap42@jacob21819.net> |
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| Date | 2025-07-22 02:43 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <slrn107tum0.dij.spamtrap42@one.localnet> |
| In reply to | #69772 |
On 2025-07-20, Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> wrote: > On 2025-07-19 14:11, Carlos E.R. wrote: >> >> [screws] >> >> Also, not all of them are the same thread, or the same length. So using >> a single tin is problematic. > > I use a large clutter free workspace like, say, a cleared kitchen > worktop, and as I remove the screws I place them within named circles on > a sheet of paper which I place slightly apart from the rest of the work > so that it will not be disturbed - depending on the laptop usually > you'll need circles such as Keyboard, Palm Rest, HD, DVD, Screen, Base, > etc. That way I know which screws belong where, regardless of slight > differences is length or thread, etc. Another method is to use a box of snack-sized zip-lock bags and a pad of 3x5 memo paper. At each step or for each type of fastener, put them in a bag and write a sequence number and short description on a paper in the bag. I used that when replacing intake manifold gaskets on a 1st-gen Vortec engine. -- Robert Riches spamtrap42@jacob21819.net (Yes, that is one of my email addresses.)
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| From | "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-07-18 23:25 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <cnqqklxnau.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> |
| In reply to | #69727 |
On 2025-07-18 22:49, sticks wrote: > On 7/18/2025 3:24 PM, Jack wrote: > >> Linux cross-posting removed! > > Nope. It was still in you post. Please keep the crosspost. -- Cheers, Carlos.
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| From | "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-07-19 00:07 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <l6tqklxmre.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> |
| In reply to | #69730 |
On 2025-07-18 23:42, sticks wrote: > On 7/18/2025 4:25 PM, Carlos E.R. wrote: >> On 2025-07-18 22:49, sticks wrote: >>> On 7/18/2025 3:24 PM, Jack wrote: >>> >>>> Linux cross-posting removed! >>> >>> Nope. It was still in you post. >> >> Please keep the crosspost. > > You do realize Jack was the one who posted content and thought he had > removed them. So, you just sent a message to all three groups adding it > with a post that literally has no subject content in it. Perhaps, you > should have done that to Jack's post??? But you were the one who actually removed the Linux groups, and I am asking You to not do that. -- Cheers, Carlos.
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| From | "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-08-06 14:29 +0200 |
| Subject | Re: Trouble with laptop display - drm ebook fallout |
| Message-ID | <qeubmlxq8t.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> |
| In reply to | #69707 |
On 2025-07-18 11:08, Carlos E.R. wrote: > On 2025-07-18 09:49, Carlos E.R. wrote: >> On 2025-07-17 23:56, Robert wrote: >>> On 17/07/2025 12:00, Carlos E.R. wrote: > >> or... >> >> I could simply use my good laptop, moving it around when needed, >> instead of purchasing anything. My old laptop was very good for this >> usage because it existed, it was a way of using old hardware past its >> time. Now that it doesn't work, I can use my working, good, laptop >> instead. I have to move it each time, but I save on having to maintain >> more hardware or buying hardware. >> >> I can try it out today. > > I connected the old laptop to an VGA display. > > My desktop computer display has a VGA entry, but it is the one with > three rows of pins, the same as in the vga cards, so that the cable I > found would not fit, because in the monitor end it has 2 rows, and on > the PC end 3 rows. I would need a cable with 3 pin rows on each end. > > So I dug out an old monitor that has a VGA cable attached (no plug on > the display end). Actually, it is the first flat display I bought, > second hand. They were very expensive at first. Connected it to the old > laptop, powered every thing, and after reseating a power connector, the > display did display the correct output. Fantastic that it did so > automatically. Only that the monitor is 3/4, and the laptop has the > modern form aspect, so a bit was lost to the right. > > The machine was actually hibernated, so it restored to the running XFCE > session, where I could find out what episode I was watching of > Montalbano. Wrote it down, and did the final power off sequence. > > Farewell. > > It is actually the first computer I own that actually fails. I have > older machines still working, like an Amstrad PC 1512 DD. I just learnt that you can not remove an ADE (Adobe Digital Editions) registration remotely. You can register or authorize up to 6 devices or computers with ADE, and you need the actual machine running to remove an authorization. If the computer dies, the authorization holds. The only resource is to go to https://www.adobe.com/es/about-adobe/contact.html and ask them to reset ALL your authorizations. So I have to power up again this lapptop, connect it to the external display, fire up the Windows side, open up ADE, and press Ctrl + Shift + D and follow the dialogue instructions. [...] Done, on the next day. -- Cheers, Carlos.
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| From | Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-08-06 18:04 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: Trouble with laptop display - drm ebook fallout |
| Message-ID | <1070cev.40g.1@ID-201911.user.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #70476 |
Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote: > On 2025-07-18 11:08, Carlos E.R. wrote: [...] > > I connected the old laptop to an VGA display. [...] > > The machine was actually hibernated, so it restored to the running XFCE > > session, where I could find out what episode I was watching of > > Montalbano. Wrote it down, and did the final power off sequence. > > > > Farewell. > > > > It is actually the first computer I own that actually fails. I have > > older machines still working, like an Amstrad PC 1512 DD. > > I just learnt that you can not remove an ADE (Adobe Digital Editions) > registration remotely. You can register or authorize up to 6 devices or > computers with ADE, and you need the actual machine running to remove an > authorization. If the computer dies, the authorization holds. The only > resource is to go to https://www.adobe.com/es/about-adobe/contact.html > and ask them to reset ALL your authorizations. > > So I have to power up again this lapptop, connect it to the external > display, fire up the Windows side, open up ADE, and press Ctrl + Shift + > D and follow the dialogue instructions. > > [...] > > Done, on the next day. That's quite bad. For a similar situation, F1 TV (Formula 1) subscription, I can use it on a maximum of 6 devices at a time. If I need to 'logout' an unavailable device, I can just use their web interface to do so. Strange that Adobe doesn't have a similar facility.
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| From | "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-08-06 20:33 +0200 |
| Subject | Re: Trouble with laptop display - drm ebook fallout |
| Message-ID | <eojcmlxp7k.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> |
| In reply to | #70495 |
On 2025-08-06 20:04, Frank Slootweg wrote: > Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote: >> On 2025-07-18 11:08, Carlos E.R. wrote: > [...] >>> I connected the old laptop to an VGA display. > [...] >>> The machine was actually hibernated, so it restored to the running XFCE >>> session, where I could find out what episode I was watching of >>> Montalbano. Wrote it down, and did the final power off sequence. >>> >>> Farewell. >>> >>> It is actually the first computer I own that actually fails. I have >>> older machines still working, like an Amstrad PC 1512 DD. >> >> I just learnt that you can not remove an ADE (Adobe Digital Editions) >> registration remotely. You can register or authorize up to 6 devices or >> computers with ADE, and you need the actual machine running to remove an >> authorization. If the computer dies, the authorization holds. The only >> resource is to go to https://www.adobe.com/es/about-adobe/contact.html >> and ask them to reset ALL your authorizations. >> >> So I have to power up again this lapptop, connect it to the external >> display, fire up the Windows side, open up ADE, and press Ctrl + Shift + >> D and follow the dialogue instructions. >> >> [...] >> >> Done, on the next day. > > That's quite bad. For a similar situation, F1 TV (Formula 1) > subscription, I can use it on a maximum of 6 devices at a time. If I > need to 'logout' an unavailable device, I can just use their web > interface to do so. Strange that Adobe doesn't have a similar facility. Yes. Specially considering that a person would likely use the same registration for his entire life. It has to be the same registration in order to access the old ebooks. And the login is tied to an email, so probably we have to keep that same email for life. I asked chatgpt about this. I also got the previous information from it. +++·························· Q: I just realized that the Adobe Digital Identity login is an email. And this would give access to all the ebooks a person buys on his life. What happens if the email provider disappears, can we change the login email to another? Great question — and you're absolutely right to think long-term about **Adobe Digital Editions (ADE)** and **Adobe ID** access to your purchased or authorized eBooks. Here's how it works and what options you have: --- ### 🔐 Adobe ID = Email Login * Your **Adobe ID is tied to your email address**. * All books authorized (especially with Adobe DRM) are linked to that ID. * You can use the same Adobe ID on multiple devices to read your books. --- ### ❓ What happens if the **email provider disappears** or you lose access to that address? #### ➤ The good news: * You **do not lose access to your Adobe ID account** just because the email domain disappears. * Adobe **only uses the email as a login name** — it’s not your identity; it's just a label for it. #### ➤ But: If you lose access to the email account and forget your Adobe password, then **password recovery becomes difficult**, since Adobe will send recovery emails there. --- ### ✅ Can you change the Adobe ID email? **Yes. Adobe allows you to change the email address** linked to your Adobe ID. Here’s how: #### 🔧 To change your Adobe ID email: 1. Go to: [https://account.adobe.com](https://account.adobe.com) 2. Sign in with your **current Adobe ID**. 3. Under **"Account and security"**, go to **"Account information"**. 4. You’ll see your email address listed — click **"Change"** next to it. 5. Enter the **new email address**, confirm, and Adobe will update your ID. > ⚠️ Important: This change **does not affect your authorizations or purchased eBooks** — they remain linked to your **Adobe ID**, regardless of the new email login. --- ### 📚 What about books downloaded with the old Adobe ID? They still work, **as long as the Adobe ID (same internal account)** is used to authorize your device, even if the login email has changed. So: * Changing the email on your Adobe account = ✅ Safe * Creating a new Adobe ID = ❌ Not safe (you would lose access to books tied to the old ID) --- ### 🧠 Best Practice * **Change your Adobe ID email** before losing access to the old one (e.g. if your old provider is shutting down). * Make sure to **keep a record of your Adobe ID login and password** in a safe place. * Consider using a **permanent email provider** (e.g. Gmail or Outlook) to avoid issues later. --- Let me know if you want a step-by-step walkthrough for changing the email with screenshots, or help backing up your ADE data. ··························++- -- Cheers, Carlos.
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| From | "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> |
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| Date | 2025-08-06 23:39 +0100 |
| Subject | Re: Trouble with laptop display - drm ebook fallout |
| Message-ID | <1070lik$3iahv$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #70497 |
On 2025/8/6 19:33:18, Carlos E.R. wrote: [] > ### 🧠 Best Practice [] > * Consider using a **permanent email provider** (e.g. Gmail or Outlook) > to avoid issues later. [] I know many assume so, but I _don't_ think "Gmail or Outlook" _are_ a "permanent email provider"; I'd be most surprised if there isn't, somewhwere buried in an obscure part of the terms, some weasel part of their provision that they don't guarantee it for ever. In practice, if Google withdraw their email provision, it would cause major world unrest. What they could always do, again to widespread displeasure but probably would be acceptable, is start charging for it - initially a small amount, maybe. (I don't know about Outlook.) The _nearest_ you can come to a "permanent email address" is to register your own domain, and (this is a _separate_ activity, though in many cases handled by the same company for convenience) pay someone to handle that domain for you, such as handle mail to it. This is permanent as long as you keep paying the registration fee. (Even then there can be a _temporary_ interruption to your _use_ of it if you fall out with the company handling it for you [or they go bust or otherwise cease to operate satisfactorily]; if _you_ own the domain, you can switch hosting provider, though it will take some time.) -- J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf a joke doesn't become a dad joke until it's full groan
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| From | Rich <rich@example.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-08-07 00:36 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: Trouble with laptop display - drm ebook fallout |
| Message-ID | <1070sdj$3mqj7$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #70511 |
In comp.os.linux.misc J. P. Gilliver <G6JPG@255soft.uk> wrote: > On 2025/8/6 19:33:18, Carlos E.R. wrote: > > [] > >> ### <1F9E0> Best Practice > > [] > >> * Consider using a **permanent email provider** (e.g. Gmail or Outlook) >> to avoid issues later. > > [] > > I know many assume so, but I _don't_ think "Gmail or Outlook" _are_ a > "permanent email provider"; I'd be most surprised if there isn't, > somewhwere buried in an obscure part of the terms, some weasel part of > their provision that they don't guarantee it for ever. You don't need to look hard. Inside the 18 screen tall, four point font legalese page will be a clause granting them the right, for any reason whatsoever, to cut you off at any time, with no recourse for you to do anything about said cutoff. > The _nearest_ you can come to a "permanent email address" is to register > your own domain, and (this is a _separate_ activity, though in many > cases handled by the same company for convenience) pay someone to handle > that domain for you, such as handle mail to it. This is permanent as > long as you keep paying the registration fee. (Even then there can be a > _temporary_ interruption to your _use_ of it if you fall out with the > company handling it for you [or they go bust or otherwise cease to > operate satisfactorily]; if _you_ own the domain, you can switch hosting > provider, though it will take some time.) Yes, this is as close to "permanent" as you will get. You must rent the domain that you use as your address. You can then host email yourself or pay someone else to be the host. But with your own domain all it takes to redirect your emails to a new provider is updating the MX records for the DNS record for the domain, and waiting the short time it takes for the change to propagate across the internet.
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2025-08-07 01:53 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: Trouble with laptop display - drm ebook fallout |
| Message-ID | <mfif8hF83toU3@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #70511 |
On Wed, 6 Aug 2025 23:39:16 +0100, J. P. Gilliver wrote: > In practice, if Google withdraw their email provision, it would cause > major world unrest. What they could always do, again to widespread > displeasure but probably would be acceptable, is start charging for it - > initially a small amount, maybe. I think it is too woven into their entire infrastructure. I've had a gmail account from the days when it was by invitation. I don't use it directly; anything arriving in gmail is automatically pulled by my regular mail account. However that has become my Google identity in for phones, Fitbit, and so forth. I recently received email that an account we'd created when we were testing Android tables had been inactive and was going to be deleted. i don't have a clue what the password was so sayanora. You could at least get around not having a MS account to set up Windows but I don't know if you could fire up a new tablet without a Google account.
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| From | "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-08-07 13:53 +0200 |
| Subject | Re: Trouble with laptop display - drm ebook fallout |
| Message-ID | <dngemlx39f.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> |
| In reply to | #70519 |
On 2025-08-07 03:53, rbowman wrote: > On Wed, 6 Aug 2025 23:39:16 +0100, J. P. Gilliver wrote: > >> In practice, if Google withdraw their email provision, it would cause >> major world unrest. What they could always do, again to widespread >> displeasure but probably would be acceptable, is start charging for it - >> initially a small amount, maybe. > > I think it is too woven into their entire infrastructure. I've had a gmail > account from the days when it was by invitation. I don't use it directly; > anything arriving in gmail is automatically pulled by my regular mail > account. However that has become my Google identity in for phones, > Fitbit, and so forth. > > I recently received email that an account we'd created when we were > testing Android tables had been inactive and was going to be deleted. i > don't have a clue what the password was so sayanora. If you have an associated phone number with it, you could recover it. > You could at least > get around not having a MS account to set up Windows but I don't know if > you could fire up a new tablet without a Google account. It is possible, but not easy. I don't know how — and I don't really care :-p -- Cheers, Carlos.
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