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| Started by | c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> |
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| First post | 2025-09-30 00:12 -0400 |
| Last post | 2025-11-24 23:48 +0000 |
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AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-30 00:12 -0400
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-30 09:37 +0200
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-30 19:21 +0200
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-30 19:35 +0100
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-09-30 22:45 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-09-30 22:41 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-09-30 22:44 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-09-30 23:46 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-01 01:05 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-01 01:06 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-10-01 03:53 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-01 04:57 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-01 21:41 -0400
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-01 21:40 -0400
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2025-10-10 18:00 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-11 02:41 -0400
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-11 11:00 +0100
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-11 19:39 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-11 22:31 -0400
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-12 12:09 +0100
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-11 19:03 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-11 22:28 -0400
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-12 12:04 +0100
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-12 19:40 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-13 03:24 -0400
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-13 10:19 +0100
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-13 19:05 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-14 01:24 -0400
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-14 07:09 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-14 20:35 -0400
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-14 10:04 +0200
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-14 10:04 +0100
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-14 12:06 +0200
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-14 11:32 +0100
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-14 12:45 +0200
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-14 22:05 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-10-14 23:31 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-15 14:30 +0200
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-14 21:47 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-10-14 23:31 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-15 06:41 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-15 03:30 -0400
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-10-15 16:57 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-15 21:31 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-10-16 18:43 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-16 18:59 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-10-16 13:43 -0700
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-17 02:02 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-10-17 07:58 -0400
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Pancho <Pancho.Jones@protonmail.com> - 2025-10-17 17:38 +0100
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-17 22:16 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-10-18 08:53 -0400
Bikes [Was: AI-Based Coding Taking Over] "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-18 20:02 +0200
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-18 19:51 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-18 22:55 +0200
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-19 02:32 +0000
Nuisance fauna [Was: AI-Based Coding Taking Over] "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-19 13:31 +0200
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Pancho <Pancho.Jones@protonmail.com> - 2025-10-19 08:41 +0100
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-19 11:15 +0100
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-19 20:57 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-20 00:23 -0400
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-20 05:44 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-20 03:32 -0400
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-20 10:34 +0200
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-20 23:22 -0400
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Pancho <Pancho.Jones@protonmail.com> - 2025-10-21 08:54 +0100
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-21 21:22 +0200
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-22 05:45 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-22 02:21 -0400
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-22 14:07 +0200
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-22 21:05 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-24 10:42 +0200
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-24 10:11 +0100
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-24 19:47 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-24 19:45 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-25 10:47 +0100
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-25 19:46 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-22 08:19 +0100
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-21 20:05 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-21 23:50 -0400
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-22 11:32 +0100
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-20 20:12 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-10-20 11:53 -0700
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-21 03:32 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-10-20 21:52 -0700
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-21 01:44 -0400
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-21 19:34 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-21 23:41 -0400
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-22 05:40 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-22 02:23 -0400
Oil leaks "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-22 14:13 +0200
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-20 10:29 +0200
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-20 19:43 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-10-20 20:48 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-21 04:10 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-21 01:39 -0400
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-21 20:02 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-21 23:48 -0400
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-22 06:02 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-22 03:34 -0400
Vehicles "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-22 14:30 +0200
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-10-22 18:03 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-22 20:51 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-23 14:54 +0200
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-22 14:26 +0200
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-22 21:00 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-10-23 04:01 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-23 20:27 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-10-23 20:59 -0700
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-25 04:47 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-10-24 22:09 -0700
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-25 19:43 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-25 22:23 +0200
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-25 20:51 -0400
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-26 19:58 +0100
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-26 11:00 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-26 18:40 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-26 22:19 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-27 00:48 +0100
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-27 03:12 -0400
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-27 10:15 +0100
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-27 08:20 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-27 02:54 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-27 08:23 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-26 22:45 -0400
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-10-27 03:07 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-27 14:26 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-27 14:31 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-27 20:41 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-10-27 14:17 -0700
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-28 05:40 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-10-28 07:45 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-10-28 06:18 -0400
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-28 19:19 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-28 19:08 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-27 22:30 -0400
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-10-28 07:45 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-10-28 11:25 -0700
The Good Ol' Days of Computing? Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-10-28 06:15 -0400
Re: The Good Ol' Days of Computing? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-29 02:12 -0400
Re: The Good Ol' Days of Computing? John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-10-29 08:43 -0700
Re: The Good Ol' Days of Computing? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-29 21:30 -0400
Re: The Good Ol' Days of Computing? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-30 03:07 +0000
Re: The Good Ol' Days of Computing? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-30 00:49 -0400
Re: The Good Ol' Days of Computing? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-30 06:29 +0000
Re: The Good Ol' Days of Computing? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-30 07:00 +0000
Re: The Good Ol' Days of Computing? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-30 11:32 -0400
Re: The Good Ol' Days of Computing? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-30 16:39 +0000
Re: The Good Ol' Days of Computing? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-30 11:29 -0400
Re: The Good Ol' Days of Computing? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-30 16:37 +0000
Re: The Good Ol' Days of Computing? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-30 20:21 +0000
Re: The Good Ol' Days of Computing? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-31 04:01 +0000
Personal computer (was Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over) John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-10-27 09:21 -0700
Re: Personal computer (was Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-27 16:53 +0000
Re: Personal computer (was Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over) Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-10-27 13:48 -0400
Re: Personal computer (was Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-27 20:53 +0000
Re: Personal computer (was Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over) John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-10-27 13:56 -0700
Re: Personal computer (was Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over) Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-10-28 06:30 -0400
Re: Personal computer (was Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over) John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-10-28 08:15 -0700
Re: Personal computer (was Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-28 19:44 +0000
Re: Personal computer (was Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over) John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-10-28 12:51 -0700
Re: Personal computer (was Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over) John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-10-28 15:39 -0700
Re: Personal computer (was Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-29 02:14 +0000
Re: Personal computer (was Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-29 01:52 +0000
Re: Personal computer (was Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-28 19:37 +0000
Re: Personal computer (was Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-10-28 07:45 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-10-27 10:18 -0700
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-10-27 13:42 -0400
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-27 21:18 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-10-28 07:45 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-27 19:28 +0100
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Robert Riches <spamtrap42@jacob21819.net> - 2025-10-24 03:30 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-24 05:44 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-24 10:21 +0200
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-23 14:57 +0200
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-23 20:23 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-24 10:35 +0200
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-24 19:30 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-24 22:13 +0200
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-25 02:38 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-25 15:17 +0200
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-25 19:40 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-23 00:29 -0400
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-23 14:59 +0200
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-23 20:20 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-10-23 19:09 -0700
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-24 05:49 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-24 10:38 +0200
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-24 19:41 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-10-24 13:05 -0700
Agriculture "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-24 22:25 +0200
Re: Agriculture rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-25 02:22 +0000
Vehicles "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-22 14:21 +0200
Re: Vehicles rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-22 20:14 +0000
Re: Vehicles "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-23 15:06 +0200
Re: Vehicles rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-23 20:01 +0000
Re: Vehicles "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-24 10:09 +0200
Re: Vehicles rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-24 18:40 +0000
Re: Vehicles "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-24 21:22 +0200
Re: Vehicles rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-25 01:54 +0000
Re: Vehicles "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-25 15:20 +0200
Re: Vehicles c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-23 00:28 -0400
Re: Vehicles The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-23 08:55 +0100
Re: Vehicles "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-23 15:09 +0200
Re: Vehicles Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-10-23 17:46 +0000
Re: Vehicles rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-23 20:08 +0000
Re: Vehicles Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-10-23 22:28 +0000
Re: Vehicles rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-24 05:09 +0000
Re: Vehicles "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-24 01:43 +0200
Re: Vehicles "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-24 01:47 +0200
Re: Vehicles Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-11-13 17:25 +0000
Re: Vehicles c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-23 22:51 -0400
Pouring a coffee into a street drain. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-24 09:59 +0200
Re: Pouring a coffee into a street drain. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-24 18:43 +0000
Re: Vehicles c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-23 22:45 -0400
Re: Vehicles rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-23 20:06 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-21 00:32 -0400
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-20 23:18 -0400
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-21 19:50 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-19 20:40 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-10-19 14:24 -0700
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-20 06:04 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-20 10:48 +0200
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-20 19:52 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-21 01:02 +0200
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-21 03:39 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-21 01:33 -0400
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-21 21:33 +0200
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-21 23:37 -0400
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-22 06:12 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-22 03:38 -0400
Vehicles. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-22 14:35 +0200
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-21 19:42 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-17 17:36 +0000
Car inspections. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-15 14:35 +0200
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-14 21:38 -0400
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-14 19:12 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-15 11:55 +0100
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Robert Riches <spamtrap42@jacob21819.net> - 2025-10-16 03:07 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-16 02:56 -0400
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-14 21:06 -0400
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-15 11:59 +0100
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-16 01:00 -0400
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-16 07:29 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-16 11:22 +0100
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-17 22:34 -0400
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-01 18:11 +0100
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-01 21:06 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-01 23:45 +0100
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-01 22:19 -0400
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-02 11:15 +0100
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-01 21:59 -0400
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over vallor <vallor@vallor.earth> - 2025-10-02 06:20 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-02 03:05 -0400
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over vallor <vallor@vallor.earth> - 2025-10-02 18:41 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-02 07:26 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over vallor <vallor@vallor.earth> - 2025-10-02 18:37 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-03 00:29 -0400
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-03 05:06 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-03 01:24 -0400
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Bob Vloon <usenet@bananacorp.nl.invalid> - 2025-10-03 11:33 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-03 20:46 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-03 00:25 -0400
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-03 04:44 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-03 01:18 -0400
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-03 20:42 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-03 21:05 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-03 23:35 -0400
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-03 23:37 -0400
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-03 08:54 +0100
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-03 10:02 +0100
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-03 20:41 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-03 23:24 -0400
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-03 23:21 -0400
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-03 23:20 -0400
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-10-04 17:04 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2025-10-03 08:03 +1000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over vallor <vallor@vallor.earth> - 2025-10-02 22:55 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-30 22:06 -0400
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Jason H <jason_hindle@yahoo.com> - 2025-10-01 20:26 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-01 21:58 -0400
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Farley Flud <fsquared@fsquared.linux> - 2025-09-30 11:25 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-30 12:56 +0100
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-30 22:48 -0400
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-10-01 03:53 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-01 21:36 -0400
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-30 22:16 -0400
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over John McCue <jmclnx@gmail.com.invalid> - 2025-10-31 16:52 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-31 20:19 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-10-31 22:45 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-31 22:35 -0400
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-11-24 23:42 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-25 08:07 +0100
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-25 03:58 -0500
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-01 11:19 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-11-01 17:32 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-01 21:09 -0400
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-02 19:09 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-11-02 19:30 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-03 02:28 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-02 01:17 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2025-11-03 07:52 +1000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over John McCue <jmclnx@gmail.com.invalid> - 2025-11-02 22:21 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> - 2025-11-03 09:30 +1000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over John McCue <jmclnx@gmail.com.invalid> - 2025-11-03 14:14 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-11-24 23:49 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-24 23:08 -0500
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-25 06:56 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-25 04:03 -0500
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Anssi Saari <anssi.saari@usenet.mail.kapsi.fi> - 2025-11-26 13:23 +0200
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-11-24 23:48 +0000
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| From | "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-10-25 15:20 +0200 |
| Subject | Re: Vehicles |
| Message-ID | <edvuslx9pc.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> |
| In reply to | #76651 |
On 2025-10-25 03:54, rbowman wrote: > On Fri, 24 Oct 2025 21:22:36 +0200, Carlos E.R. wrote: > >> Interesting. But too expensive. If those are the normal prices, I will >> have to reconsider. > > No, that's high end. I think you can get something decent in the 1000-1500 > USD range but it would require research. Bicycles have been that way for > years. Shimano has quite a few different grades of components, all of > which look the same. Some can be mixed and matched. Altus used to be the > entry level and a manufacturer might use a fairly high quality suspension > fork and cheap out on the components. TBH I've had everything from XTR on > down; they're all adequate and they all break the same. I will have a look one day. > > Electric bikes add many more variables. I wouldn't trust a $500 Chinese > bike bought from Amazon although many of the reviews are good. I got a > kick out of one 5 star review "have ridden it maybe a total of 5 miles > over the course of 3 trips," :-D -- Cheers, Carlos. ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;
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| From | c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> |
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| Date | 2025-10-23 00:28 -0400 |
| Subject | Re: Vehicles |
| Message-ID | <Sb6dnUNo_5uVMmT1nZ2dnZfqnPqdnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #76530 |
On 10/22/25 08:21, Carlos E.R. wrote: > On 2025-10-22 05:48, c186282 wrote: >> On 10/21/25 16:02, rbowman wrote: >>> On Tue, 21 Oct 2025 01:39:33 -0400, c186282 wrote: >>> >>>> Quads and "golf carts" can now be considered to be "vehicles" in >>>> lots >>>> of states - the popularity has exploded. They require a few basic >>>> minimums, tail-lights, head-lights, but the other requirements are >>>> rather few. >>> >>> In this state golf carts are subject to local ordinances. If they are >>> allowed the state laws dictate basic equipment and require a DL. There >>> are a couple of communities built up around golf courses where you see >>> them tooling around. Unless you're suicidal you don't want to be on most >>> highways with something that peaks out at 20 mph. >> >> I've seen some that do at least 45 :-) > > Around here, there is a regulation that vehicles with a gasoline motor > smaller than 50 cc, do not need a driving license. They have to be very > light. I don't know about an equivalent rule for electricals. > >> >> But yea, major highway, keep up or get squashed. >> >> It is surprisingly difficult to spot a slow or >> stationary vehicle while driving. The perspective >> does not change much until you're RIGHT up on >> the damned thing. MANY nasty accidents result. >> >> Oddly it's the police who are often victims of >> this. Despite blue lights and such, drivers >> kind of see the tail-lights and automatically >> assume the pull-off strip is another open lane >> where traffic is proceeding at their speed. >> They only realize the truth an instant before >> the Big Smash. Something about how humans >> are wired ..... >> >>> I see a lot of ebikes lately. I haven't been into one of the local bike >>> shops recently so I don't know if they're selling them or if it's mail >>> order. The Forest Service and the county have banned them on most single >>> track trails. They are walking a fine line particularly the ones that >>> you >>> couldn't pedal if you wanted to. > > Eum... why? > >> >> I have a couple of e-bike fanatics who blast down >> the sidewalk in front of my house. Some of those >> things are pretty damned fast. They also make >> NO NOISE. Now have to CAREFULLY, incrementally, >> nose my car out over the sidewalk. > > In theory, electric "skate boards" or whatever they are named are > forbidden on the sidewalks here. They are considered motor vehicles and > must go on the road path. Well .... "in theory" ..... But the authorities have other better things to do than hassle e-bike riders. > The exceptions are electric chairs for impaired people, and some of them > are fast! I've seen one guy with a fast one. Likely are more. The same way people hop-up their cars there are those who hop-up their e-bikes or chairs or 'golf carts'. The bureaucracy may note the underlying model type, but never looks into subsequent mods.
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| From | The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-10-23 08:55 +0100 |
| Subject | Re: Vehicles |
| Message-ID | <10dcn1a$1fbq0$4@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #76565 |
On 23/10/2025 05:28, c186282 wrote: > But the authorities have other better things to > do than hassle e-bike riders. Like fining a woman for tip[ping a half drunk cup of coffee down a street drain... -- A lie can travel halfway around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes.
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| From | "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-10-23 15:09 +0200 |
| Subject | Re: Vehicles |
| Message-ID | <31mpslxqng.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> |
| In reply to | #76571 |
On 2025-10-23 09:55, The Natural Philosopher wrote: > On 23/10/2025 05:28, c186282 wrote: >> But the authorities have other better things to >> do than hassle e-bike riders. > > Like fining a woman for tip[ping a half drunk cup of coffee down a > street drain... Why? :-o Maybe if the street drain use a different pipe system than toilets. Here it is all the same, all the waters go to the same mixed system. -- Cheers, Carlos. ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;
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| From | Rich <rich@example.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-10-23 17:46 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: Vehicles |
| Message-ID | <10ddpl6$1vj38$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #76584 |
Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote: > On 2025-10-23 09:55, The Natural Philosopher wrote: >> On 23/10/2025 05:28, c186282 wrote: >>> But the authorities have other better things to >>> do than hassle e-bike riders. >> >> Like fining a woman for tip[ping a half drunk cup of coffee down a >> street drain... > > Why? :-o > > Maybe if the street drain use a different pipe system than toilets. Here > it is all the same, all the waters go to the same mixed system. In much of the US, the street drain system is separate from the sanitary sewer and the street drains simply lead directly to local waterways (rivers/creeks/etc.) with no "treatment plant" in the way. The idea being that rain water does not need to be treated for release into the river/creeks, while the "toilet sewer" water does need treating/filtration/etc. before the remaining water is released to the local waterways. This reduces the amount of sewage the treatment plant has to treat -- which translates directly to a cost saving in the treatment process.
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2025-10-23 20:08 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: Vehicles |
| Message-ID | <mlvgamFgc64U8@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #76586 |
On Thu, 23 Oct 2025 17:46:14 -0000 (UTC), Rich wrote: > In much of the US, the street drain system is separate from the sanitary > sewer and the street drains simply lead directly to local waterways > (rivers/creeks/etc.) with no "treatment plant" in the way. Many of the storm drains here have stenciled reminders that the aquifer that supplies the city is only down about 25' so don't pour your antifreeze, oil, and so forth down them.
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| From | Rich <rich@example.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-10-23 22:28 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: Vehicles |
| Message-ID | <10dea5s$26qg6$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #76595 |
rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote: > On Thu, 23 Oct 2025 17:46:14 -0000 (UTC), Rich wrote: > >> In much of the US, the street drain system is separate from the sanitary >> sewer and the street drains simply lead directly to local waterways >> (rivers/creeks/etc.) with no "treatment plant" in the way. > > Many of the storm drains here have stenciled reminders that the aquifer > that supplies the city is only down about 25' so don't pour your > antifreeze, oil, and so forth down them. Many here have a similar label, only here the label reminds that the storm drains empty out into the nearby large river.
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2025-10-24 05:09 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: Vehicles |
| Message-ID | <mm0g03Fm6jsU7@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #76604 |
On Thu, 23 Oct 2025 22:28:13 -0000 (UTC), Rich wrote: > rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote: >> On Thu, 23 Oct 2025 17:46:14 -0000 (UTC), Rich wrote: >> >>> In much of the US, the street drain system is separate from the >>> sanitary sewer and the street drains simply lead directly to local >>> waterways (rivers/creeks/etc.) with no "treatment plant" in the way. >> >> Many of the storm drains here have stenciled reminders that the aquifer >> that supplies the city is only down about 25' so don't pour your >> antifreeze, oil, and so forth down them. > > Many here have a similar label, only here the label reminds that the > storm drains empty out into the nearby large river. The river here is toast. The recommendation was to not eat fish from it very often and to avoid northern pike entirely. Now the settling ponds of an abandoned pulp mill are starting to leak and it's not recommended to eat any fish. The headwaters are out toward Butte and the Copper Kings weren't environmentally conscious. It's one of the bigger SuperFund sites in the country.
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| From | "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-10-24 01:43 +0200 |
| Subject | Re: Vehicles |
| Message-ID | <h6rqslxtd.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> |
| In reply to | #76586 |
On 2025-10-23 19:46, Rich wrote: > Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote: >> On 2025-10-23 09:55, The Natural Philosopher wrote: >>> On 23/10/2025 05:28, c186282 wrote: >>>> But the authorities have other better things to >>>> do than hassle e-bike riders. >>> >>> Like fining a woman for tip[ping a half drunk cup of coffee down a >>> street drain... >> >> Why? :-o >> >> Maybe if the street drain use a different pipe system than toilets. Here >> it is all the same, all the waters go to the same mixed system. > > In much of the US, the street drain system is separate from the > sanitary sewer and the street drains simply lead directly to local > waterways (rivers/creeks/etc.) with no "treatment plant" in the way. > > The idea being that rain water does not need to be treated for release > into the river/creeks, while the "toilet sewer" water does need > treating/filtration/etc. before the remaining water is released to the > local waterways. This reduces the amount of sewage the treatment plant > has to treat -- which translates directly to a cost saving in the > treatment process. Makes sense. Here (Spain) the drains/sewers predate the existence, even the dreaming, of treatment of waste waters. Or were built while we were poor. -- Cheers, Carlos. ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;
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| From | "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-10-24 01:47 +0200 |
| Subject | Re: Vehicles |
| Message-ID | <fdrqslxtd.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> |
| In reply to | #76586 |
On 2025-10-24 01:43, Carlos E.R. wrote: > On 2025-10-23 19:46, Rich wrote: >> Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote: >>> On 2025-10-23 09:55, The Natural Philosopher wrote: >>>> On 23/10/2025 05:28, c186282 wrote: >>>>> But the authorities have other better things to >>>>> do than hassle e-bike riders. >>>> >>>> Like fining a woman for tip[ping a half drunk cup of coffee down a >>>> street drain... >>> >>> Why? :-o >>> >>> Maybe if the street drain use a different pipe system than toilets. Here >>> it is all the same, all the waters go to the same mixed system. >> >> In much of the US, the street drain system is separate from the >> sanitary sewer and the street drains simply lead directly to local >> waterways (rivers/creeks/etc.) with no "treatment plant" in the way. >> >> The idea being that rain water does not need to be treated for release >> into the river/creeks, while the "toilet sewer" water does need >> treating/filtration/etc. before the remaining water is released to the >> local waterways. This reduces the amount of sewage the treatment plant >> has to treat -- which translates directly to a cost saving in the >> treatment process. > > Makes sense. > > Here (Spain) the drains/sewers predate the existence, even the dreaming, > of treatment of waste waters. Or were built while we were poor. > However, there is al sort of garbage and pollution going into the roads. Oils and residues from the cars, to start with. Thinking that the rain water in the city will be clean is bonkers, it should be treated, too. -- Cheers, Carlos. ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;
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| From | Rich <rich@example.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-11-13 17:25 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: Vehicles |
| Message-ID | <10f549c$29c9v$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #76606 |
Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote: > On 2025-10-24 01:43, Carlos E.R. wrote: >> On 2025-10-23 19:46, Rich wrote: >>> Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote: >>>> On 2025-10-23 09:55, The Natural Philosopher wrote: >>>>> On 23/10/2025 05:28, c186282 wrote: >>>>>> But the authorities have other better things to >>>>>> do than hassle e-bike riders. >>>>> >>>>> Like fining a woman for tip[ping a half drunk cup of coffee down a >>>>> street drain... >>>> >>>> Why? :-o >>>> >>>> Maybe if the street drain use a different pipe system than toilets. Here >>>> it is all the same, all the waters go to the same mixed system. >>> >>> In much of the US, the street drain system is separate from the >>> sanitary sewer and the street drains simply lead directly to local >>> waterways (rivers/creeks/etc.) with no "treatment plant" in the way. >>> >>> The idea being that rain water does not need to be treated for release >>> into the river/creeks, while the "toilet sewer" water does need >>> treating/filtration/etc. before the remaining water is released to the >>> local waterways. This reduces the amount of sewage the treatment plant >>> has to treat -- which translates directly to a cost saving in the >>> treatment process. >> >> Makes sense. >> >> Here (Spain) the drains/sewers predate the existence, even the dreaming, >> of treatment of waste waters. Or were built while we were poor. >> > > However, there is al sort of garbage and pollution going into the roads. > Oils and residues from the cars, to start with. Thinking that the rain > water in the city will be clean is bonkers, it should be treated, too. While true, most all the 'road drain' systems were installed long before the realization that the cars/roads are pollution generators themselves. But, in any case, even with that, the road runoff is significantly cleaner by comparison than the "waste stream" that heads down the toilets.
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| From | c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> |
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| Date | 2025-10-23 22:51 -0400 |
| Subject | Re: Vehicles |
| Message-ID | <g4ScnfwckeQ8dGf1nZ2dnZfqn_WdnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #76584 |
On 10/23/25 09:09, Carlos E.R. wrote: > On 2025-10-23 09:55, The Natural Philosopher wrote: >> On 23/10/2025 05:28, c186282 wrote: >>> But the authorities have other better things to >>> do than hassle e-bike riders. >> >> Like fining a woman for tip[ping a half drunk cup of coffee down a >> street drain... > > Why? :-o > > Maybe if the street drain use a different pipe system than toilets. Here > it is all the same, all the waters go to the same mixed system. > Find the news story. Nothing 'logical' about that persecution whatsoever.
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| From | "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-10-24 09:59 +0200 |
| Subject | Pouring a coffee into a street drain. |
| Message-ID | <d8orslx2dc.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> |
| In reply to | #76609 |
On 2025-10-24 04:51, c186282 wrote:
> On 10/23/25 09:09, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>> On 2025-10-23 09:55, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>>> On 23/10/2025 05:28, c186282 wrote:
>>>> But the authorities have other better things to
>>>> do than hassle e-bike riders.
>>>
>>> Like fining a woman for tip[ping a half drunk cup of coffee down a
>>> street drain...
>>
>> Why? :-o
>>
>> Maybe if the street drain use a different pipe system than toilets.
>> Here it is all the same, all the waters go to the same mixed system.
>>
>
> Find the news story. Nothing 'logical' about
> that persecution whatsoever.
>
<https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/37088085/woman-fined-pouring-coffee-dregs-drain/>
COFFEE IT UP Woman fined for pouring dregs of her coffee down drain on
high street – after THREE officers confronted her
She was told she should have poured it in the bin
Really? The bin would leak into the street.
“I didn’t want to pour it in the bin either – imagine the poor
guys having to clean that.”
...
However it said it has decided to cancel the fine on this occasion.
<https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cg435gg66gpo>
Council U-turn on fine for coffee poured in drain
2 days ago
A south-west London council has reversed its decision to
fine a woman £150 for pouring the remnants of her coffee
down a gully.
Burcu Yesilyurt, who lives in Kew, said she thought she
was acting responsibly when she poured a small amount
from her reusable cup down the drain - rather than risk
spilling it on the bus she was about to catch to work.
Well, good for that council. No way the council here would revert any
fine whatsoever.
--
Cheers, Carlos.
ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2025-10-24 18:43 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: Pouring a coffee into a street drain. |
| Message-ID | <mm1vn7FtktmU6@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #76618 |
On Fri, 24 Oct 2025 09:59:41 +0200, Carlos E.R. wrote: > Burcu Yesilyurt, who lives in Kew, said she thought she was acting > responsibly when she poured a small amount from her reusable cup > down the drain - rather than risk spilling it on the bus she was > about to catch to work. I once got a warning from a transit cop for getting on the San Diego trolley with a cup of coffee. No open containers allowed.
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| From | c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> |
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| Date | 2025-10-23 22:45 -0400 |
| Subject | Re: Vehicles |
| Message-ID | <g4Scnf0ckeSndWf1nZ2dnZfqn_WdnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #76571 |
On 10/23/25 03:55, The Natural Philosopher wrote: > On 23/10/2025 05:28, c186282 wrote: >> But the authorities have other better things to >> do than hassle e-bike riders. > > Like fining a woman for tip[ping a half drunk cup of coffee down a > street drain... Oh, well THAT was IMPORTANT ! As coffee is dark, it was probably RACIST too !
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2025-10-23 20:06 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: Vehicles |
| Message-ID | <mlvg6rFgc64U7@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #76565 |
On Thu, 23 Oct 2025 00:28:54 -0400, c186282 wrote: > But the authorities have other better things to do than hassle e-bike > riders. In the summer we have cops on bicycles. I suppose they'll want e-bikes to catch the malefactors. One year Troy switched to 6 cylinder Valiants for the cop cars. The reasoning was if the cops knew they couldn't catch anything it would cut down on the high speed chases that often resulted in liabilities for the city. Maybe that should apply to bike cops too. They mostly provide a police presence in the parks and so forth if the homeless get too aggressive.
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| From | c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> |
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| Date | 2025-10-21 00:32 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <NfOdnexKQ6tIkWr1nZ2dnZfqnPhj4p2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #76436 |
On 10/20/25 16:48, Charlie Gibbs wrote: > On 2025-10-20, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote: > >> In this and most states it's an endorsement on a regular driver's license. >> I've always had a DL and don't know if there are motorcycle only licenses. > > Back in my teens I had a small motorbike. My licence said > "motorcycles only" in the restrictions section. A year later > when I got my automobile licence its restrictions section said > "Not permitted to drive motorcycles". If asked for a licence, > I would present whichever one covered what I was driving. > Five years later, when I was up for renewal, I got a single > licence that was good for both. > Law too often does not keep up with Reality :-)
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| From | c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> |
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| Date | 2025-10-20 23:18 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <Bm-dnVsUmLntZmv1nZ2dnZfqn_ednZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #76411 |
On 10/20/25 04:29, Carlos E.R. wrote: > On 2025-10-20 06:23, c186282 wrote: >> On 10/19/25 06:15, The Natural Philosopher wrote: >>> On 19/10/2025 08:41, Pancho wrote: >>>> One thing that has always puzzled me about sporty motorcycles is, >>>> why do they have two disk brakes on the front wheel. One per wheel >>>> is enough for my much heavier car. >>> >>> Do you spend your entire time braking from high speed every 15 seconds? >>> >>> I was doing about 110mph (before speed cameras were everywhere) when >>> I saw a stopped car ahead. By the time I was at 15mph the brakes had >>> completely gone. >>> >>> There was just enough left to stop... >>> Twin disks have more capacity to absorb heat in a smaller volume. >> >> I'll agree that "sport bike" enthusiasts always >> push it - fast acceleration, then fast braking - >> over and over and over. Great thrill I suppose. >> >> As such 'excessive' braking capability is not >> really 'excessive'. >> >> Did own a Kawi Vulcan 750 once. It also had dual >> front brakes. You had to be CAREFUL or you'd hurl >> yourself over the handlebars - the thing would >> stop QUICK. Actually caused issues with a state >> MC license referee, you were supposed to start >> braking at line 'A' and then stop by line 'B', >> but the bike would stop like a foot beyond 'A'. >> Had to CHEAT the braking maneuver test, do it >> just with the rear brake :-) > > What was that test? :-? Part of a practical general-competency test. You also had to do kind of tight loops and such within marked lines as I remember. Of course, these days, REAL motorcycle competency isn't in handling the actual machine - but knowing how to predict/dodge the car drivers fixated on their phones and such :-) > Google AI says: «An "MC license" can refer to > a Multi-Combination (MC) license for driving very large vehicles with > multiple trailers, or a motorcycle (MC) license for riding motorcycles. > An MC license for heavy vehicles is a high-level license for driving B- > doubles or road trains, while a motorcycle license is for riding bikes > and has different classes based on engine size and power. » 'MC' here refers to "motorcycle". It's usually a separate endorsement on yer driving license. 'Commercial vehicle' is yet another segment usually applying to large trucks up to the 18-wheelers. Of course in California you don't even have to read/write/speak any known language to get the commercial endorsement - just be one of their precious more-equal foreigners :-)
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2025-10-21 19:50 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <mlq6goFcg3U3@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #76444 |
On Mon, 20 Oct 2025 23:18:07 -0400, c186282 wrote: > Of course in California you don't even have to read/write/speak any > known language to get the commercial endorsement - just be one of > their precious more-equal foreigners I don't know if I believe it but I've seen some references to CDLs issued to 'No Name Given'. There are also youtube videos of what happens when a person applies the skills they learned in Mumbai to an 18-wheeler. I did it for the hell of it and it was fun but I also figured I was making below minimum wage. You're paid by the mile and the time spend doing paperwork or waiting around doesn't count. The industry has a very high turnover rate which doesn't encourage looking at potential employees very carefully.
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2025-10-19 20:40 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <mll0l9F3kj4U4@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #76349 |
On Sun, 19 Oct 2025 08:41:29 +0100, Pancho wrote: > Yeah, sorry, I take road bike to mean a pedal bicycle. Disk brakes are > relatively recent for pedal bicycles, whereas motorcycles have had disk > brakes for decades. (I guess they had drum brakes before?) So I assumed > pedal bicycle. One of my bicycles has a disk brake on the front wheel. It's mechanically operated although I think there are hydraulic versions. My first motorcycle was a '55 Harley which had mechanically operated drum brakes front and rear. The Honda CB750 was the first popular motorcycle to use a front disk. For '69 it was a superbike. The rear was a drum. I don't know when the transition was mostly complete. I had a '82 Yamaha with a front disk and mechanically operated drum on the rear. About 70% of the braking is done with the front wheel so the rear wasn't a priority. Also, the forward weight transfer during hard braking meant you couldn't use much rear braking. I tend to only use the brake for trailing braking in a corner. My '98 Harley, '03 Suzuki DR650 and '08 DL650 are disk on both ends. > One thing that has always puzzled me about sporty motorcycles is, why do > they have two disk brakes on the front wheel. One per wheel is enough > for my much heavier car. Posers? Many are race replicas and when you're repeatedly slowing down from 160 mph more is better. Of course most bike riders don't do 160 or at least not for very long, so a lot is probably style. The Harley and the DR650 might make it to 100 sooner or later with a tailwind and have single disks. The DL650 will do 125 and has duals. The DL650 might have been influenced by its sibling, the SV650. That one is popular for racing. The DL650 has the same engine but it's configured to be less peaky. Perhaps the front fork assembly is also shared.
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