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| Started by | CtrlAltDel <Altie@BHam.com> |
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| First post | 2025-12-10 23:49 +0000 |
| Last post | 2025-12-15 23:18 +0000 |
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Please do not donate to any Linux distro CtrlAltDel <Altie@BHam.com> - 2025-12-10 23:49 +0000
Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-12-10 18:54 -0800
Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro CtrlAltDel <Altie@BHam.com> - 2025-12-11 03:41 +0000
Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-11 03:42 +0000
Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-12-10 20:47 -0800
Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2025-12-12 21:50 +0000
Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-13 02:02 +0000
Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2025-12-13 10:01 +0000
Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-13 14:14 +0100
Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-13 20:41 +0000
Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-12-13 16:00 -0800
Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-14 03:11 +0000
Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-15 19:02 +0000
Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-15 23:53 +0000
Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-15 19:01 +0000
Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro Harold Stevens <wookie@aspen.localdomain> - 2025-12-11 03:27 -0600
Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-12-11 08:56 -0800
Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro CtrlAltDel <Altie@BHam.com> - 2025-12-11 18:25 +0000
Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-11 11:26 +0100
Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2025-12-12 06:37 +1000
Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro CtrlAltDel <Altie@BHam.com> - 2025-12-12 05:04 +0000
Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro bonkmaykr <bonkyboo@canithesis.org> - 2025-12-13 09:11 -0600
Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro Beej Jorgensen <beej@beej.us> - 2025-12-13 15:53 +0000
Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-12-16 01:21 +0000
Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-16 12:16 +0000
Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2025-12-17 07:37 +1000
Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-12-16 21:53 +0000
Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2025-12-18 06:54 +1000
Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-12-17 22:13 +0000
Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-17 23:43 +0000
Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-18 01:26 +0000
Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-18 10:07 +0000
Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2025-12-19 08:28 +1000
Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2025-12-19 08:24 +1000
Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-12-19 01:08 +0000
Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-17 13:20 +0000
Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-17 13:57 +0000
Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-17 14:34 +0000
Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-17 20:23 +0000
Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-17 23:41 +0000
Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-18 01:20 +0000
Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-18 10:02 +0000
Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro CtrlAltDel <Altie@BHam.com> - 2025-12-20 07:17 +0000
Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-18 10:01 +0000
Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-18 09:59 +0000
Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2025-12-18 06:43 +1000
Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro kouya <kouyaheika@canithesis.org> - 2025-12-11 16:21 -0600
Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro CtrlAltDel <Altie@BHam.com> - 2025-12-12 05:01 +0000
Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-12 08:43 +0000
Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro kouya <kouyaheika@canithesis.org> - 2025-12-12 14:30 -0600
Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-13 14:16 +0100
Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-12-13 14:03 +0000
Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-14 00:03 +0100
Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-14 03:18 +0000
Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-12-13 20:36 -0800
Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro Eric Pozharski <apple.universe@posteo.net> - 2025-12-14 16:51 +0000
Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-12-14 11:36 -0800
Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-14 20:56 +0000
Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-15 19:07 +0000
Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-12-16 05:54 +0000
Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro bonkmaykr <bonkymaykr@canithesis.org> - 2025-12-16 07:40 -0600
Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-16 14:33 +0000
Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-16 20:42 +0000
Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-17 01:05 +0000
Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-12-17 01:46 +0000
Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-15 19:05 +0000
Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-12-17 01:43 +0000
Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro bonkmaykr <bonkyboo@canithesis.org> - 2025-12-12 15:48 -0600
Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-12 23:46 +0000
Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-13 14:26 +0100
Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro bonkmaykr <bonkyboo@canithesis.org> - 2025-12-13 07:38 -0600
Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-12-13 14:08 +0000
Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-12-17 01:41 +0000
Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-12-17 08:01 -0800
Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2025-12-19 14:50 +0000
Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-19 18:05 +0000
Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro Farley Flud <fflud@gnu.rocks> - 2025-12-13 14:56 +0000
Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-12-13 15:52 +0000
Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-13 18:00 +0000
Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-12-17 01:37 +0000
Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-14 00:10 +0100
Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-12-14 12:03 +0000
Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro CtrlAltDel <Altie@BHam.com> - 2025-12-14 10:41 +0000
Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro bonkmaykr <bonkyboo@canithesis.org> - 2025-12-14 06:23 -0600
Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-14 13:27 +0100
Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-14 18:26 +0000
Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro CtrlAltDel <Altie@BHam.com> - 2025-12-13 09:33 +0000
Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-13 10:54 +0000
Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-13 14:28 +0100
Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-12-13 14:09 +0000
Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-14 00:11 +0100
Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-12-13 13:56 +0000
Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro CtrlAltDel <Altie@BHam.com> - 2025-12-14 10:52 +0000
Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro bonkmaykr <bonkyboo@canithesis.org> - 2025-12-14 06:25 -0600
Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-12-14 13:50 +0000
Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro CtrlAltDel <Altie@BHam.com> - 2025-12-15 00:18 +0000
Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro bonkmaykr <bonkyboo@canithesis.org> - 2025-12-15 10:40 -0600
Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro CtrlAltDel <Altie@BHam.com> - 2025-12-15 21:12 +0000
Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro bonkmaykr <bonkyboo@canithesis.org> - 2025-12-15 15:41 -0600
Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro CtrlAltDel <Altie@BHam.com> - 2025-12-15 23:02 +0000
Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro bonkmaykr <bonkyboo@canithesis.org> - 2025-12-15 17:09 -0600
Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro CtrlAltDel <Altie@BHam.com> - 2025-12-15 23:23 +0000
Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro bonkmaykr <bonkymaykr@canithesis.org> - 2025-12-15 20:58 -0600
Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro CtrlAltDel <Altie@BHam.com> - 2025-12-16 11:25 +0000
Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro bonkmaykr <bonkymaykr@canithesis.org> - 2025-12-16 07:35 -0600
Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro CtrlAltDel <Altie@BHam.com> - 2025-12-17 01:09 +0000
Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro bonkmaykr <bonkymaykr@canithesis.org> - 2025-12-17 08:11 -0600
Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-17 14:37 +0000
Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro bonkmaykr <bonkymaykr@canithesis.org> - 2025-12-17 09:02 -0600
Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro CtrlAltDel <Altie@BHam.com> - 2025-12-18 01:39 +0000
Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-12-19 20:27 +0000
Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-15 19:11 +0000
Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro CtrlAltDel <Altie@BHam.com> - 2025-12-15 20:51 +0000
Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-12-17 01:34 +0000
Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2025-12-13 23:18 +0800
Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro John McCue <jmclnx@gmail.com.invalid> - 2025-12-15 16:05 +0000
Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-12-15 08:53 -0800
Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro 🇵🇱Jacek Marcin Jaworski🇵🇱 <jmj@energokod.gda.pl> - 2025-12-15 18:46 +0100
Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro CtrlAltDel <Altie@BHam.com> - 2025-12-15 20:54 +0000
Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-15 21:32 +0000
Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro CtrlAltDel <Altie@BHam.com> - 2025-12-15 23:06 +0000
Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro Diego Garcia <dg@linux.rocks> - 2025-12-15 21:34 +0000
Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-15 21:35 +0000
Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro CtrlAltDel <Altie@BHam.com> - 2025-12-15 23:07 +0000
Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-12-19 20:32 +0000
Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro 🇵🇱Jacek Marcin Jaworski🇵🇱 <jmj@energokod.gda.pl> - 2025-12-15 22:42 +0100
Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-12-15 14:09 -0800
Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro 🇵🇱Jacek Marcin Jaworski🇵🇱 <jmj@energokod.gda.pl> - 2025-12-15 23:38 +0100
Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-12-15 14:41 -0800
Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro kouya <kouyaheika@canithesis.org> - 2025-12-15 16:45 -0600
Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-12-15 14:55 -0800
Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro bonkmaykr <bonkyboo@canithesis.org> - 2025-12-15 17:10 -0600
Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro CtrlAltDel <Altie@BHam.com> - 2025-12-15 23:27 +0000
Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-12-19 20:30 +0000
Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-12-19 12:35 -0800
Re: Please do not donate to any Linux distro CtrlAltDel <Altie@BHam.com> - 2025-12-15 23:18 +0000
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| From | "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-12-14 00:10 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <lb811mx6l2.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> |
| In reply to | #79013 |
On 2025-12-13 16:52, Stéphane CARPENTIER wrote: > Le 13-12-2025, Farley Flud <fflud@gnu.rocks> a écrit : >> On Sat, 13 Dec 2025 07:38:56 -0600, bonkmaykr wrote: ... >> GNU/Linux has always been an AMATEUR endeavor, > > Linus TORVALDS is very well paid by the FSF to take care of Linux. There > is no definition in any dictionary which could be understood as amateur. > > You just proved, once again, your lack of knowledge. A lot of the kernel people are employees of companies that contribute to the kernel development. Paid full time to contribute. -- Cheers, Carlos. ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;
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| From | Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> |
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| Date | 2025-12-14 12:03 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <693ea786$0$28070$426a74cc@news.free.fr> |
| In reply to | #79031 |
Le 13-12-2025, Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> a écrit : > On 2025-12-13 16:52, Stéphane CARPENTIER wrote: >> Le 13-12-2025, Farley Flud <fflud@gnu.rocks> a écrit : >>> On Sat, 13 Dec 2025 07:38:56 -0600, bonkmaykr wrote: > > ... > >>> GNU/Linux has always been an AMATEUR endeavor, >> >> Linus TORVALDS is very well paid by the FSF to take care of Linux. There >> is no definition in any dictionary which could be understood as amateur. >> >> You just proved, once again, your lack of knowledge. > > A lot of the kernel people are employees of companies that contribute to > the kernel development. Paid full time to contribute. Yes. It was just an example. And it's not limited to kernel developers. But he's very limited, so I had to choose an example he couldn't doubt. -- Si vous avez du temps à perdre : https://scarpet42.gitlab.io
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| From | CtrlAltDel <Altie@BHam.com> |
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| Date | 2025-12-14 10:41 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <10hm49m$udtg$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #79006 |
On Sat, 13 Dec 2025 14:56:17 +0000, Farley Flud wrote: > My view is that if a GNU/Linux developer cannot sustain his efforts > without begging for donations then he should simply get out of the game. Exactly. That's the main reason I would never use Gentoo. Horrible begging and badgering and fear mongering is front and center on their main page, here: https://www.gentoo.org/ Despicable!
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| From | bonkmaykr <bonkyboo@canithesis.org> |
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| Date | 2025-12-14 06:23 -0600 |
| Message-ID | <10hma7m$110br$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #79064 |
CtrlAltDel wrote: > On Sat, 13 Dec 2025 14:56:17 +0000, Farley Flud wrote: > >> My view is that if a GNU/Linux developer cannot sustain his efforts >> without begging for donations then he should simply get out of the game. > > Exactly. That's the main reason I would never use Gentoo. Horrible > begging and badgering and fear mongering is front and center on their main > page, here: > > https://www.gentoo.org/ > > Despicable! > There are surely MUCH more serious reasons to not use Gentoo... -- *bonkmaykr* Director, Programming Lead <https://canithesis.org/>
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| From | "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-12-14 13:27 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <d2n21mxq2e.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> |
| In reply to | #79064 |
On 2025-12-14 11:41, CtrlAltDel wrote: > On Sat, 13 Dec 2025 14:56:17 +0000, Farley Flud wrote: > >> My view is that if a GNU/Linux developer cannot sustain his efforts >> without begging for donations then he should simply get out of the game. > > Exactly. That's the main reason I would never use Gentoo. Horrible > begging and badgering and fear mongering is front and center on their main > page, here: > > https://www.gentoo.org/ > > Despicable! > Then don't use the Linux kernel. -- Cheers, Carlos. ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;
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| From | Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-12-14 18:26 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <10hmvg6$1an92$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #79076 |
On 2025-12-14, Carlos E.R. wrote: > On 2025-12-14 11:41, CtrlAltDel wrote: >> On Sat, 13 Dec 2025 14:56:17 +0000, Farley Flud wrote: >> >>> My view is that if a GNU/Linux developer cannot sustain his efforts >>> without begging for donations then he should simply get out of the game. >> >> Exactly. That's the main reason I would never use Gentoo. Horrible >> begging and badgering and fear mongering is front and center on their main >> page, here: >> >> https://www.gentoo.org/ >> >> Despicable! >> > > Then don't use the Linux kernel. That's easy to do, as a starting point I remember one distribution that IIRC had ways to be installed on top of BSD and Windows NT: Gentoo! -- Nuno Silva
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| From | CtrlAltDel <Altie@BHam.com> |
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| Date | 2025-12-13 09:33 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <10hjbsc$3s2ph$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #78952 |
On Fri, 12 Dec 2025 15:48:53 -0600, bonkmaykr wrote: > Respectfully, because I don't take pleasure in shouting vulgarities in > public: This is either a very obvious troll post or you have shockingly > little idea what you are talking about. > > It takes less than thirty seconds to, upon hearing the term "free > software", check your search engine, and find decades worth of > educational and historical material about how it, infact, has nothing to > do with being commercial or not. > > Donations are not commercial either. Every non-profit or charity off the > top of my head begs for donations. > > This post was so terrible it made me finally bother registering for > usenet. Bongmaker, the whole idea of Linux and the distros and Linux programs was that it was free for everyone. No more money grubbing Windows. If everyone wants to charge for a distro, charge for a program, beg/demand donations or shame the users who don't wish to participate, etc... what is the difference between the Linux ecosystem and Windows? There should be no requests for donations in association with anything to do with Linux. The purity of the whole concept is being rapidly eroded and being replaced with opportunist vultures. If you love Linux, keep it free and keep it for the people, not the corporations.
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| From | Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-12-13 10:54 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <wwvy0n6649x.fsf@LkoBDZeT.terraraq.uk> |
| In reply to | #78976 |
CtrlAltDel <Altie@BHam.com> writes: > Bongmaker, the whole idea of Linux and the distros and Linux programs was > that it was free for everyone. No more money grubbing Windows. > > If everyone wants to charge for a distro, charge for a program, beg/demand > donations or shame the users who don't wish to participate, etc... what is > the difference between the Linux ecosystem and Windows? > > There should be no requests for donations in association with anything > to do with Linux. > > The purity of the whole concept is being rapidly eroded and being > replaced with opportunist vultures. If you love Linux, keep it free > and keep it for the people, not the corporations. It is still free. You can easily get Linux without paying a single penny/cent/whatever. You are imagining a nonexistent problem and then getting mad about it. -- https://www.greenend.org.uk/rjk/
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| From | "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-12-13 14:28 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <u8601mxq1k.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> |
| In reply to | #78976 |
On 2025-12-13 10:33, CtrlAltDel wrote: > On Fri, 12 Dec 2025 15:48:53 -0600, bonkmaykr wrote: > >> Respectfully, because I don't take pleasure in shouting vulgarities in >> public: This is either a very obvious troll post or you have shockingly >> little idea what you are talking about. >> >> It takes less than thirty seconds to, upon hearing the term "free >> software", check your search engine, and find decades worth of >> educational and historical material about how it, infact, has nothing to >> do with being commercial or not. >> >> Donations are not commercial either. Every non-profit or charity off the >> top of my head begs for donations. >> >> This post was so terrible it made me finally bother registering for >> usenet. > > Bongmaker, the whole idea of Linux and the distros and Linux programs was > that it was free for everyone. No more money grubbing Windows. Free, not necessarily gratis. You are confusing both. ... -- Cheers, Carlos. ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;
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| From | Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> |
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| Date | 2025-12-13 14:09 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <693d73b6$0$432$426a74cc@news.free.fr> |
| In reply to | #78998 |
Le 13-12-2025, Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> a écrit : > On 2025-12-13 10:33, CtrlAltDel wrote: >> >> Bongmaker, the whole idea of Linux and the distros and Linux programs was >> that it was free for everyone. No more money grubbing Windows. > > Free, not necessarily gratis. You are confusing both. > > ... You are answering someone who is confusing hardware and software, so maybe you are asking for too much. -- Si vous avez du temps à perdre : https://scarpet42.gitlab.io
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| From | "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-12-14 00:11 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <ke811mx6l2.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> |
| In reply to | #79004 |
On 2025-12-13 15:09, Stéphane CARPENTIER wrote: > Le 13-12-2025, Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> a écrit : >> On 2025-12-13 10:33, CtrlAltDel wrote: >>> >>> Bongmaker, the whole idea of Linux and the distros and Linux programs was >>> that it was free for everyone. No more money grubbing Windows. >> >> Free, not necessarily gratis. You are confusing both. >> >> ... > > You are answering someone who is confusing hardware and software, so > maybe you are asking for too much. Oh, I forgot that one. Right. -- Cheers, Carlos. ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;
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| From | Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> |
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| Date | 2025-12-13 13:56 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <693d70a8$0$3140$426a74cc@news.free.fr> |
| In reply to | #78724 |
Le 10-12-2025, CtrlAltDel <Altie@BHam.com> a écrit : > Linux is supposed to be free, not free with constant nags about donating. > If you want to donate, go buy a Windows release and donate your money to > them. It's impressive. You managed to be stupider than FF/LP/NV/DG/whatever. I didn't believe it was humanly possible without winning a Darwin award. First your request to find a program to update your hardware DVD player into a hardware Blu-ray player, then this one. I'm impressed. -- Si vous avez du temps à perdre : https://scarpet42.gitlab.io
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| From | CtrlAltDel <Altie@BHam.com> |
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| Date | 2025-12-14 10:52 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <10hm4st$udtg$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #79001 |
On 13 Dec 2025 13:56:56 GMT, Stéphane CARPENTIER wrote: > Le 10-12-2025, CtrlAltDel <Altie@BHam.com> a écrit : >> Linux is supposed to be free, not free with constant nags about >> donating. >> If you want to donate, go buy a Windows release and donate your money >> to them. > > It's impressive. You managed to be stupider than FF/LP/NV/DG/whatever. I > didn't believe it was humanly possible without winning a Darwin award. > First your request to find a program to update your hardware DVD player > into a hardware Blu-ray player, then this one. I'm impressed. Why are the French always so mean-spirited, rude, angry, and demeaning to others? Cajuns aren't like that. They are happy, outgoing, enjoyable, and nice people to be around. But the French. They are nasty and whine about everything and, as a group, are generally depressing and drag down those around them. They seem to try to make people they associate with into the same miserable and frustrated type of people as they are, on the whole.
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| From | bonkmaykr <bonkyboo@canithesis.org> |
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| Date | 2025-12-14 06:25 -0600 |
| Message-ID | <10hmabe$110br$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #79065 |
CtrlAltDel wrote: > On 13 Dec 2025 13:56:56 GMT, Stéphane CARPENTIER wrote: > >> Le 10-12-2025, CtrlAltDel <Altie@BHam.com> a écrit : >>> Linux is supposed to be free, not free with constant nags about >>> donating. >>> If you want to donate, go buy a Windows release and donate your money >>> to them. >> >> It's impressive. You managed to be stupider than FF/LP/NV/DG/whatever. I >> didn't believe it was humanly possible without winning a Darwin award. >> First your request to find a program to update your hardware DVD player >> into a hardware Blu-ray player, then this one. I'm impressed. > > Why are the French always so mean-spirited, rude, angry, and demeaning to > others? Cajuns aren't like that. They are happy, outgoing, enjoyable, and > nice people to be around. > > But the French. They are nasty and whine about everything and, as a > group, are generally depressing and drag down those around them. They seem > to try to make people they associate with into the same miserable and > frustrated type of people as they are, on the whole. > This thread is awesome. I get to laugh at a Gentoo user, an illiterate retard AND his completely unfounded racism, all in the same conversation! -- *bonkmaykr* Director, Programming Lead <https://canithesis.org/>
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| From | Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> |
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| Date | 2025-12-14 13:50 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <693ec0a3$0$5075$426a74cc@news.free.fr> |
| In reply to | #79075 |
Le 14-12-2025, bonkmaykr <bonkyboo@canithesis.org> a écrit : > CtrlAltDel wrote: >> On 13 Dec 2025 13:56:56 GMT, Stéphane CARPENTIER wrote: >> >>> Le 10-12-2025, CtrlAltDel <Altie@BHam.com> a écrit : >>>> Linux is supposed to be free, not free with constant nags about >>>> donating. >>>> If you want to donate, go buy a Windows release and donate your money >>>> to them. >>> >>> It's impressive. You managed to be stupider than FF/LP/NV/DG/whatever. I >>> didn't believe it was humanly possible without winning a Darwin award. >>> First your request to find a program to update your hardware DVD player >>> into a hardware Blu-ray player, then this one. I'm impressed. >> >> Why are the French always so mean-spirited, rude, angry, and demeaning to >> others? Cajuns aren't like that. They are happy, outgoing, enjoyable, and >> nice people to be around. Let say you are the one being mean spirited, rude, angry and demanding about constant requests related with donations. I'm just surprised with your lack of understanding. >> But the French. They are nasty and whine about everything and, as a >> group, are generally depressing and drag down those around them. They seem >> to try to make people they associate with into the same miserable and >> frustrated type of people as they are, on the whole. Once again, you are the one whining about everything, depressed and dragging the others to be depressed about constant donation requests. Are you French? > This thread is awesome. I get to laugh at a Gentoo user, an illiterate > retard AND his completely unfounded racism, all in the same conversation! For the Gentoo user, I'm not that sure about that. Well, he pretends to be a Gentoo user, but I believe he's a Windows and Ubuntu user pretending to be a Gentoo user. There are a lot of hints in his messages about that. -- Si vous avez du temps à perdre : https://scarpet42.gitlab.io
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| From | CtrlAltDel <Altie@BHam.com> |
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| Date | 2025-12-15 00:18 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <10hnk4o$1h304$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #79075 |
On Sun, 14 Dec 2025 06:25:18 -0600, bonkmaykr wrote: > CtrlAltDel wrote: >> On 13 Dec 2025 13:56:56 GMT, Stéphane CARPENTIER wrote: >> >>> Le 10-12-2025, CtrlAltDel <Altie@BHam.com> a écrit : >>>> Linux is supposed to be free, not free with constant nags about >>>> donating. >>>> If you want to donate, go buy a Windows release and donate your money >>>> to them. >>> >>> It's impressive. You managed to be stupider than FF/LP/NV/DG/whatever. >>> I didn't believe it was humanly possible without winning a Darwin >>> award. First your request to find a program to update your hardware >>> DVD player into a hardware Blu-ray player, then this one. I'm >>> impressed. >> >> Why are the French always so mean-spirited, rude, angry, and demeaning >> to others? Cajuns aren't like that. They are happy, outgoing, >> enjoyable, and nice people to be around. >> >> But the French. They are nasty and whine about everything and, as a >> group, are generally depressing and drag down those around them. They >> seem to try to make people they associate with into the same miserable >> and frustrated type of people as they are, on the whole. >> >> > This thread is awesome. I get to laugh at a Gentoo user, an illiterate > retard AND his completely unfounded racism, all in the same > conversation! First off, it's not nice manners to laugh at others. Secondly, this thread only devolved into personal criticisms when Stephen Carpenter initiated the hostility for some unknown reason. That's boorish behavior and low-class. You, also for no reason at all, decided it would be a good idea to collaborate with Stephen because you likely do not think for yourself and thought it would be great fun to pile on. Anyone that freely admits they were so triggered that, after many years of not doing so, they just had to create a Usenet moniker to immediately jump into the thread and defend pandering, panhandling, and solicitation by developers is likely not well developed mentally. Your subsequent postings are beginning to confirm this. We can be friends but, you should learn not to be so anxious and skittish at completely normal posts just because you have a different opinion. Try to be a bit more civilized.
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| From | bonkmaykr <bonkyboo@canithesis.org> |
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| Date | 2025-12-15 10:40 -0600 |
| Message-ID | <10hpdmp$21gg5$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #79106 |
CtrlAltDel wrote: > First off, it's not nice manners to laugh at others. Then don't make me laugh. Lol > Secondly, this thread > only devolved into personal criticisms when Stephen Carpenter initiated > the hostility for some unknown reason. Yes, because you have definitely not been hostile long before then. And it is definitely unknown to us that you have no idea what you are blabbering about. Such a mystery. > That's boorish behavior and low-class. You, also for no reason at all, > decided it would be a good idea to collaborate with Stephen because you > likely do not think for yourself and thought it would be great fun to pile > on. Collaborate? I did not know happening to agree with someone in an open discourse where we, as we have a right to do, call you out on your bullshit, was "collaborating". Classic loser-speak for people who cannot take what they dish out, same as "harassment", "bullying", "marginalizing", etc. etc. You're not wrong, the whole world is just against you! > Anyone that freely admits they were so triggered that, after many years of > not doing so, they just had to create a Usenet moniker to immediately jump > into the thread and defend pandering, panhandling, and solicitation by > developers is likely not well developed mentally. Actually, I had interest in Usenet for a while, and I have been using it for many other discussions over the course of this week. I am sorry to report that you are not the center of my attention. Your post just so happened to be the one that made be finally bother replying. > Your subsequent postings are beginning to confirm this. We can be friends > but, you should learn not to be so anxious and skittish at completely > normal posts just because you have a different opinion. I have no interest in being your friend. You sound like a total wimp. > Try to be a bit more civilized. No. -- *bonkmaykr* Director, Programming Lead <https://canithesis.org/>
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| From | CtrlAltDel <Altie@BHam.com> |
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| Date | 2025-12-15 21:12 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <10hptke$25sss$3@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #79156 |
On Mon, 15 Dec 2025 10:40:55 -0600, bonkmaykr wrote: > Then don't make me laugh. Lol People with probable mental disabilities often laugh at inappropriate times. I can't help you with that malady. > Yes, because you have definitely not been hostile long before then. And > it is definitely unknown to us that you have no idea what you are > blabbering about. Such a mystery. I was behaving as a perfect, upstanding, proper gentleman before you and your little buddy starting frothing at the mouth due to a lack of emotional control of your delicate feelings. > Collaborate? > > I did not know happening to agree with someone in an open discourse > where we, as we have a right to do, call you out on your bullshit, was > "collaborating". > > Classic loser-speak for people who cannot take what they dish out, same > as "harassment", "bullying", "marginalizing", etc. etc. You're not > wrong, the whole world is just against you! Me? I was not attacking or maligning anyone whatsoever in this thread. I just presented a point of view that you do not care for and your feminine, hysterical personality came bubbling up to the surface. >> Anyone that freely admits they were so triggered that, after many years >> of not doing so, they just had to create a Usenet moniker to >> immediately jump into the thread and defend pandering, panhandling, and >> solicitation by developers is likely not well developed mentally. > > Actually, I had interest in Usenet for a while, and I have been using it > for many other discussions over the course of this week. I am sorry to > report that you are not the center of my attention. Your post just so > happened to be the one that made be finally bother replying. Oh, I see. So you had been lurking for years. You saw my post and that exposed a raw nerve that you just could not relax. Your civic duty was to then to create a posting profile and news server and save Usenet from ruination with your slow wit and dull insight. > I have no interest in being your friend. You sound like a total wimp. You have a childish intellect; I suggest crawling back into your cocoon of safety.
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| From | bonkmaykr <bonkyboo@canithesis.org> |
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| Date | 2025-12-15 15:41 -0600 |
| Message-ID | <10hpv9o$278kk$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #79208 |
CtrlAltDel wrote: > People with probable mental disabilities often laugh at inappropriate > times. I can't help you with that malady. > > Oh, I see. So you had been lurking for years. You saw my post and that > exposed a raw nerve that you just could not relax. Your civic duty was to > then to create a posting profile and news server and save Usenet from > ruination with your slow wit and dull insight. > > You have a childish intellect; I suggest crawling back into your cocoon of > safety. > No, I have not been on usenet for years. To the surprise of literally not a single person, you lack even rudimentary reading comprehension. Calling people "malady" and mentally projecting that I'm "triggered" all the while waving around your persecutory delusion that we are "collaborating" against you is exactly the kind of thing one would call a childish intellect. I did not need to argue with you. It was obvious from the original post in this thread that there is not a single thought going on behind your eyes, and that it would be a waste of time. I did it because it's funny. Clearly, it has gotten under your skin. We can all see it. -- *bonkmaykr* Director, Programming Lead <https://canithesis.org/>
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| From | CtrlAltDel <Altie@BHam.com> |
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| Date | 2025-12-15 23:02 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <10hq423$25sss$4@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #79213 |
On Mon, 15 Dec 2025 15:41:11 -0600, bonkmaykr wrote: > CtrlAltDel wrote: >> People with probable mental disabilities often laugh at inappropriate >> times. I can't help you with that malady. >> >> Oh, I see. So you had been lurking for years. You saw my post and that >> exposed a raw nerve that you just could not relax. Your civic duty was >> to then to create a posting profile and news server and save Usenet >> from ruination with your slow wit and dull insight. >> >> You have a childish intellect; I suggest crawling back into your cocoon >> of safety. >> >> > No, I have not been on usenet for years. To the surprise of literally > not a single person, you lack even rudimentary reading comprehension. > > Calling people "malady" and mentally projecting that I'm "triggered" all > the while waving around your persecutory delusion that we are > "collaborating" against you is exactly the kind of thing one would call > a childish intellect. > > I did not need to argue with you. It was obvious from the original post > in this thread that there is not a single thought going on behind your > eyes, and that it would be a waste of time. I did it because it's funny. > Clearly, it has gotten under your skin. We can all see it. This is silly and you are a silly. I can't take you seriously because you seem so upset about something, it's hard to figure out what, and your erratic statements are absurd. I say you have a mental illness, which is likely true, and state I can't help you with that malady. In your simple mind, you then construct that to imagine I am calling you "malady" and lash out in anger over it. It's also hard to believe that you just had to, out of an urgent necessity, immediately create a Usenet posting profile after years of not posting just to enter a thread about not donating to developers who incessantly beg for coins. You are most likely just another random fuck-sock that is morphing again.
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