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| First post | 2021-08-23 23:04 +0000 |
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Re: What's the best linux distro? F Russell <fr@random.info> - 2021-08-23 23:04 +0000
Re: What's the best linux distro? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2021-08-24 03:13 +0200
Re: What's the best linux distro? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-08-24 14:19 +0100
Re: What's the best linux distro? Jimmy Johnson <Jimmy@disposable.invalid> - 2021-08-25 20:47 -0700
Re: What's the best linux distro? Robert Riches <spamtrap42@jacob21819.net> - 2021-08-26 04:05 +0000
Re: What's the best linux distro? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-08-26 09:48 +0100
Re: What's the best linux distro? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-08-26 09:46 +0100
Re: What's the best linux distro? Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2021-08-26 12:11 +0000
Re: What's the best linux distro? Jasen Betts <usenet@revmaps.no-ip.org> - 2021-08-26 13:21 +0000
Re: What's the best linux distro? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-08-26 16:53 +0100
Re: What's the best linux distro? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-08-26 16:51 +0100
Re: What's the best linux distro? F Russell <fr@random.info> - 2021-08-24 12:53 +0000
Re: What's the best linux distro? SixOverFive <hae274b.net> - 2021-08-25 00:41 -0400
Re: What's the best linux distro? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-08-25 10:18 +0100
Re: What's the best linux distro? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2021-08-25 11:56 +0200
Re: What's the best linux distro? Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2021-08-25 12:10 +0100
Re: X-post and follow-Up (Was: What's the best linux distro?) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2021-08-26 11:33 +0200
Re: X-post and follow-Up Bud Frede <frede@mouse-potato.com> - 2021-08-29 06:52 -0400
Re: X-post and follow-Up "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2021-08-29 14:02 +0200
Re: What's the best linux distro? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-08-25 13:10 +0100
Re: What's the best linux distro? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2021-08-25 14:36 +0200
Re: What's the best linux distro? Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2021-08-25 08:53 -0400
Re: What's the best linux distro? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2021-08-25 15:13 +0200
Re: What's the best linux distro? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-08-25 14:31 +0100
Re: What's the best linux distro? Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2021-08-25 12:14 -0400
Re: What's the best linux distro? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2021-08-25 20:13 +0200
Re: What's the best linux distro? Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2021-08-26 20:57 +0000
Re: What's the best linux distro? "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2021-08-27 01:38 +0200
Re: What's the best linux distro? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-08-27 02:04 +0100
Re: What's the best linux distro? "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2021-08-27 09:29 +0200
Re: What's the best linux distro? Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2021-08-27 17:01 +0200
Re: What's the best linux distro? Bud Frede <frede@mouse-potato.com> - 2021-08-29 07:26 -0400
Re: What's the best linux distro? "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2021-08-29 14:27 +0200
Re: What's the best linux distro? Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2021-08-26 20:53 +0000
Re: What's the best linux distro? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-08-27 02:01 +0100
Re: What's the best linux distro? Bobbie Sellers <bliss@mouse-potato.com> - 2021-08-25 08:23 -0700
Re: What's the best linux distro? Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2021-08-25 12:21 -0400
Re: What's the best linux distro? "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2021-08-27 01:54 +0200
Re: What's the best linux distro? Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2021-08-28 12:51 +0000
Re: What's the best linux distro? Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2021-08-28 11:40 -0400
Re: What's the best linux distro? Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2021-08-28 17:39 +0000
Re: What's the best linux distro? Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2021-08-28 14:25 -0400
Re: What's the best linux distro? "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2021-08-28 23:08 +0200
Re: What's the best linux distro? Aragorn <thorongil@telenet.be> - 2021-08-29 00:10 +0200
Re: What's the best linux distro? Bud Frede <frede@mouse-potato.com> - 2021-08-29 08:09 -0400
Re: What's the best linux distro? "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2021-08-29 14:43 +0200
Re: What's the best linux distro? Bud Frede <frede@mouse-potato.com> - 2021-08-29 07:11 -0400
Re: What's the best linux distro? "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2021-08-29 14:29 +0200
Re: What's the best linux distro? Aragorn <thorongil@telenet.be> - 2021-08-29 16:09 +0200
Re: What's the best linux distro? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-08-25 14:27 +0100
Re: What's the best linux distro? Robert Latest <boblatest@yahoo.com> - 2021-08-25 15:38 +0000
Re: What's the best linux distro? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-08-25 18:44 +0100
Re: What's the best linux distro? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2021-08-25 20:15 +0200
Re: What's the best linux distro? Robert Latest <boblatest@yahoo.com> - 2021-08-26 05:19 +0000
Re: What's the best linux distro? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2021-08-26 11:40 +0200
Re: What's the best linux distro? Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2021-08-25 12:07 -0400
Re: What's the best linux distro? Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2021-08-25 12:10 -0400
Re: What's the best linux distro? Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2021-08-26 21:03 +0000
Re: What's the best linux distro? Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2021-08-27 17:04 +0200
Re: What's the best linux distro? Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2021-08-28 13:12 +0000
Re: What's the best linux distro? Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2021-08-28 11:39 -0400
Re: What's the best linux distro? Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2021-08-29 11:05 +0100
Re: What's the best linux distro? Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2021-08-29 07:06 -0400
Re: What's the best linux distro? Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2021-08-29 12:50 +0100
Re: What's the best linux distro? Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2021-08-29 08:07 -0400
Re: What's the best linux distro? Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2021-08-29 13:23 +0100
Re: What's the best linux distro? Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2021-08-29 11:38 -0400
Re: What's the best linux distro? Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2021-08-29 22:45 +0100
Re: What's the best linux distro? "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2021-08-30 01:10 +0200
Re: What's the best linux distro? Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2021-08-29 20:18 -0400
Re: What's the best linux distro? Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2021-08-30 08:23 +0100
Re: What's the best linux distro? Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2021-08-30 08:02 -0400
Re: What's the best linux distro? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-08-30 14:26 +0100
Re: What's the best linux distro? Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2021-08-31 10:13 +0100
Re: What's the best linux distro? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-08-31 10:38 +0100
Re: What's the best linux distro? Eli the Bearded <*@eli.users.panix.com> - 2021-08-31 20:39 +0000
Re: What's the best linux distro? Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2021-08-29 12:59 +0000
Re: What's the best linux distro? "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2021-08-29 15:43 +0200
Re: What's the best linux distro? Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2021-08-29 11:41 -0400
Re: What's the best linux distro? Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2021-08-26 09:09 +0100
Re: What's the best linux distro? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-08-26 09:49 +0100
Re: What's the best linux distro? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2021-08-26 11:31 +0200
Re: What's the best linux distro? Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2021-08-25 16:47 +0100
Re: What's the best linux distro? jjb <invalid@invalid.nl> - 2021-08-25 18:17 +0200
Re: What's the best linux distro? Bobbie Sellers <bliss@mouse-potato.com> - 2021-08-25 10:39 -0700
Re: What's the best linux distro? Aragorn <thorongil@telenet.be> - 2021-08-25 22:14 +0200
Re: What's the best linux distro? Bud Frede <frede@mouse-potato.com> - 2021-08-29 08:19 -0400
Re: What's the best linux distro? Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2021-08-25 12:23 -0400
Re: What's the best linux distro? Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2021-08-25 18:14 +0100
Re: What's the best linux distro? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2021-08-25 20:19 +0200
Re: What's the best linux distro? Bud Frede <frede@mouse-potato.com> - 2021-08-29 07:32 -0400
Re: What's the best linux distro? "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2021-08-29 14:36 +0200
Re: What's the best linux distro? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-08-29 15:16 +0100
Re: What's the best linux distro? Jimmy Johnson <Jimmy@disposable.invalid> - 2021-08-25 21:02 -0700
Re: What's the best linux distro? Robert Latest <boblatest@yahoo.com> - 2021-08-26 05:35 +0000
Re: What's the best linux distro? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2021-08-26 11:28 +0200
Re: What's the best linux distro? Aragorn <thorongil@telenet.be> - 2021-08-26 18:10 +0200
Re: What's the best linux distro? Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2021-08-26 13:12 -0400
Re: What's the best linux distro? Aragorn <thorongil@telenet.be> - 2021-08-26 19:41 +0200
Re: What's the best linux distro? "J.O. Aho" <user@example.net> - 2021-08-27 11:02 +0200
Re: What's the best linux distro? Bud Frede <frede@mouse-potato.com> - 2021-08-29 07:42 -0400
Re: What's the best linux distro? "J.O. Aho" <user@example.net> - 2021-08-29 15:26 +0200
Re: What's the best linux distro? Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2021-08-29 14:57 +0100
Re: What's the best linux distro? Bud Frede <frede@mouse-potato.com> - 2021-08-29 10:47 -0400
Re: What's the best linux distro? Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2021-08-26 21:12 +0000
Re: What's the best linux distro? Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@gmail.com> - 2021-08-31 21:36 +0000
Re: What's the best linux distro? Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2021-08-26 20:41 +0000
Re: What's the best linux distro? SixOverFive <hae274b.net> - 2021-08-25 00:12 -0400
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| From | F Russell <fr@random.info> |
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| Date | 2021-08-23 23:04 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: What's the best linux distro? |
| Message-ID | <sg19ic01udo@news1.newsguy.com> |
On Mon, 23 Aug 2021 17:15:30 -0500, chrisv wrote: > > The source is available for all of them. Total choice exists for all > of them. > Totally wrong. If one desires to install an alternative init system on Fedora it will be impossible. The distro is locked into systemd as are many others. Choice does not exist. Unless a distro specifically allows allows alternative options for an init system and other systems, as do Gentoo and LFS, then it is NOT a free distro in the spirit of FOSS. Again: most distros are not free and violate FOSS principles. Why is this so? Because distro maintainers are wannabe gods and do not want to work for the people but want to work only to glorify their self-image. Anyone can create a distro. But creating a distro that maintains freedom and allows choice is a great labor that few desire to undertake. The case is closed. -- Systemd free. D.E. free. Always and forever.
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| From | "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
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| Date | 2021-08-24 03:13 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <vmtdvh-bgq.ln1@Telcontar.valinor> |
| In reply to | #32816 |
On 24/08/2021 01.04, F Russell wrote: > On Mon, 23 Aug 2021 17:15:30 -0500, chrisv wrote: > >> >> The source is available for all of them. Total choice exists for all >> of them. >> > > Totally wrong. > > If one desires to install an alternative init system on Fedora > it will be impossible. The distro is locked into systemd > as are many others. Choice does not exist. > > Unless a distro specifically allows allows alternative options > for an init system and other systems, as do Gentoo and LFS, > then it is NOT a free distro in the spirit of FOSS. > > Again: most distros are not free and violate FOSS principles. Sue them. > > Why is this so? > > Because distro maintainers are wannabe gods and do not > want to work for the people but want to work only to glorify > their self-image. > > Anyone can create a distro. But creating a distro that maintains > freedom and allows choice is a great labor that few desire to > undertake. Then why don't you create your's, and see how many want it? > > The case is closed. > > -- Cheers, Carlos.
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| From | The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2021-08-24 14:19 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <sg2rkg$4mo$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #32817 |
On 24/08/2021 02:13, Carlos E.R. wrote: > On 24/08/2021 01.04, F Russell wrote: >> On Mon, 23 Aug 2021 17:15:30 -0500, chrisv wrote: >> >>> >>> The source is available for all of them. Total choice exists for all >>> of them. >>> >> >> Totally wrong. >> >> If one desires to install an alternative init system on Fedora >> it will be impossible. The distro is locked into systemd >> as are many others. Choice does not exist. >> >> Unless a distro specifically allows allows alternative options >> for an init system and other systems, as do Gentoo and LFS, >> then it is NOT a free distro in the spirit of FOSS. >> >> Again: most distros are not free and violate FOSS principles. > > Sue them. > >> >> Why is this so? >> >> Because distro maintainers are wannabe gods and do not >> want to work for the people but want to work only to glorify >> their self-image. >> >> Anyone can create a distro. But creating a distro that maintains >> freedom and allows choice is a great labor that few desire to >> undertake. > > Then why don't you create your's, and see how many want it? > Exactly. Linux runs my desktop and my servers. Its a bit like windows, only better, more stable, and cost nothing more than the effort of installing it . I dont give a rats ass about whether its FOSS or not. I care that it works, it's as secure as the people who do pick over the source code can make it, and well supported, up to and including porting third party apps to it. I got bored with the niceties of the moralities of software development sometime in the 1990s >> >> The case is closed. >> >> > > -- Climate Change: Socialism wearing a lab coat.
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| From | Jimmy Johnson <Jimmy@disposable.invalid> |
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| Date | 2021-08-25 20:47 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <sg72sc$3ss$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #32819 |
On 08/24/2021 06:19 AM, The Natural Philosopher wrote: > I dont give a rats ass about whether its FOSS or not. I care that it > works, it's as secure as the people who do pick over the source code can > make it, and well supported, up to and including porting third party > apps to it. > > I got bored with the niceties of the moralities of software development > sometime in the 1990s > Climate Change: Socialism wearing a lab coat. I don't like you. There is nothing nice or good about Corporations or the rich owning Open Source or murder, you're nothing less than a $atan loving fool with no place to run and no place to hide, so don't be surprised when your day comes. And saying you don't believe won't help, you've been warned. LOL -- James, Son of John
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| From | Robert Riches <spamtrap42@jacob21819.net> |
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| Date | 2021-08-26 04:05 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <slrnsie4no.4am.spamtrap42@one.localnet> |
| In reply to | #32851 |
On 2021-08-26, Jimmy Johnson <Jimmy@disposable.invalid> wrote: > On 08/24/2021 06:19 AM, The Natural Philosopher wrote: > >> I dont give a rats ass about whether its FOSS or not. I care that it >> works, it's as secure as the people who do pick over the source code can >> make it, and well supported, up to and including porting third party >> apps to it. >> >> I got bored with the niceties of the moralities of software development >> sometime in the 1990s > >> Climate Change: Socialism wearing a lab coat. > > I don't like you. There is nothing nice or good about Corporations or > the rich owning Open Source or murder, you're nothing less than a $atan > loving fool with no place to run and no place to hide, so don't be > surprised when your day comes. And saying you don't believe won't help, > you've been warned. LOL Jimmy Johnson, your post sounds like a threat of violence or other harm against TNP. I hope he prints a copy of your post to show to law enforcement if that becomes necessary. -- Robert Riches spamtrap42@jacob21819.net (Yes, that is one of my email addresses.)
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| From | The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2021-08-26 09:48 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <sg7kh4$8ta$4@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #32853 |
On 26/08/2021 05:05, Robert Riches wrote: > On 2021-08-26, Jimmy Johnson <Jimmy@disposable.invalid> wrote: >> On 08/24/2021 06:19 AM, The Natural Philosopher wrote: >> >>> I dont give a rats ass about whether its FOSS or not. I care that it >>> works, it's as secure as the people who do pick over the source code can >>> make it, and well supported, up to and including porting third party >>> apps to it. >>> >>> I got bored with the niceties of the moralities of software development >>> sometime in the 1990s >> >>> Climate Change: Socialism wearing a lab coat. >> >> I don't like you. There is nothing nice or good about Corporations or >> the rich owning Open Source or murder, you're nothing less than a $atan >> loving fool with no place to run and no place to hide, so don't be >> surprised when your day comes. And saying you don't believe won't help, >> you've been warned. LOL > > Jimmy Johnson, your post sounds like a threat of violence or > other harm against TNP. I hope he prints a copy of your post to > show to law enforcement if that becomes necessary. > Don't be silly. This is Usenet. Hate speech is all part of the fun, and probably de rigeur. Golly don't you remember the flame wars, way back when? And the final solution - the Kill File. -- The biggest threat to humanity comes from socialism, which has utterly diverted our attention away from what really matters to our existential survival, to indulging in navel gazing and faux moral investigations into what the world ought to be, whilst we fail utterly to deal with what it actually is.
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| From | The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2021-08-26 09:46 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <sg7kdg$8ta$3@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #32851 |
On 26/08/2021 04:47, Jimmy Johnson wrote: > On 08/24/2021 06:19 AM, The Natural Philosopher wrote: > >> I dont give a rats ass about whether its FOSS or not. I care that it >> works, it's as secure as the people who do pick over the source code can >> make it, and well supported, up to and including porting third party >> apps to it. >> >> I got bored with the niceties of the moralities of software development >> sometime in the 1990s > >> Climate Change: Socialism wearing a lab coat. > > I don't like you. There is nothing nice or good about Corporations or > the rich owning Open Source or murder, you're nothing less than a $atan > loving fool with no place to run and no place to hide, so don't be > surprised when your day comes. And saying you don't believe won't help, > you've been warned. LOL Well I must say that is very antisocial of you. Did you get lost in someone else's Moral Maze? -- The biggest threat to humanity comes from socialism, which has utterly diverted our attention away from what really matters to our existential survival, to indulging in navel gazing and faux moral investigations into what the world ought to be, whilst we fail utterly to deal with what it actually is.
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| From | Rich <rich@example.invalid> |
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| Date | 2021-08-26 12:11 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <sg80d1$7pk$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #32860 |
In comp.os.linux.misc The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote: > On 26/08/2021 04:47, Jimmy Johnson wrote: >> On 08/24/2021 06:19 AM, The Natural Philosopher wrote: >> >>> I dont give a rats ass about whether its FOSS or not. I care that it >>> works, it's as secure as the people who do pick over the source code can >>> make it, and well supported, up to and including porting third party >>> apps to it. >>> >>> I got bored with the niceties of the moralities of software development >>> sometime in the 1990s >> >>> Climate Change: Socialism wearing a lab coat. >> >> I don't like you. There is nothing nice or good about Corporations or >> the rich owning Open Source or murder, you're nothing less than a $atan >> loving fool with no place to run and no place to hide, so don't be >> surprised when your day comes. And saying you don't believe won't help, >> you've been warned. LOL > > Well I must say that is very antisocial of you. > Did you get lost in someone else's Moral Maze? JJ's response would be the "hmm, you don't think like me, therefore you must be _____" (pick your choice of "evil incarnate" for the blank). Far too many recently have fallen into a trap of forgetting (or possibly never understanding in the first place) that different people can hold different opinions and it is not the end of the world. I.e., some have forgotten to "agree to disagree".
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| From | Jasen Betts <usenet@revmaps.no-ip.org> |
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| Date | 2021-08-26 13:21 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <sg84hc$lc2$1@gonzo.revmaps.no-ip.org> |
| In reply to | #32870 |
On 2021-08-26, Rich <rich@example.invalid> wrote: > In comp.os.linux.misc The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote: >> On 26/08/2021 04:47, Jimmy Johnson wrote: >>> On 08/24/2021 06:19 AM, The Natural Philosopher wrote: >>> >>>> I dont give a rats ass about whether its FOSS or not. I care that it >>>> works, it's as secure as the people who do pick over the source code can >>>> make it, and well supported, up to and including porting third party >>>> apps to it. >>>> >>>> I got bored with the niceties of the moralities of software development >>>> sometime in the 1990s >>> >>>> Climate Change: Socialism wearing a lab coat. >>> >>> I don't like you. There is nothing nice or good about Corporations or >>> the rich owning Open Source or murder, you're nothing less than a $atan >>> loving fool with no place to run and no place to hide, so don't be >>> surprised when your day comes. And saying you don't believe won't help, >>> you've been warned. LOL >> >> Well I must say that is very antisocial of you. >> Did you get lost in someone else's Moral Maze? > > JJ's response would be the "hmm, you don't think like me, therefore you > must be _____" (pick your choice of "evil incarnate" for the blank). It was a response in kind to the original post, and entirely justified. Correct me ig I'm wrong, bufrom from your response it seems that you also prefer superstition to science. If you don't want your idocies mocked don't post them to usenet. -- Jasen.
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| From | The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2021-08-26 16:53 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <sg8dei$eit$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #32871 |
On 26/08/2021 14:21, Jasen Betts wrote: > On 2021-08-26, Rich <rich@example.invalid> wrote: >> In comp.os.linux.misc The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote: >>> On 26/08/2021 04:47, Jimmy Johnson wrote: >>>> On 08/24/2021 06:19 AM, The Natural Philosopher wrote: >>>> >>>>> I dont give a rats ass about whether its FOSS or not. I care that it >>>>> works, it's as secure as the people who do pick over the source code can >>>>> make it, and well supported, up to and including porting third party >>>>> apps to it. >>>>> >>>>> I got bored with the niceties of the moralities of software development >>>>> sometime in the 1990s >>>> >>>>> Climate Change: Socialism wearing a lab coat. >>>> >>>> I don't like you. There is nothing nice or good about Corporations or >>>> the rich owning Open Source or murder, you're nothing less than a $atan >>>> loving fool with no place to run and no place to hide, so don't be >>>> surprised when your day comes. And saying you don't believe won't help, >>>> you've been warned. LOL >>> >>> Well I must say that is very antisocial of you. >>> Did you get lost in someone else's Moral Maze? >> >> JJ's response would be the "hmm, you don't think like me, therefore you >> must be _____" (pick your choice of "evil incarnate" for the blank). > > It was a response in kind to the original post, and entirely justified. > > Correct me ig I'm wrong, bufrom from your response it seems that you also > prefer superstition to science. No, I don't think he is Believer in Catastrophic Anthropogenic Global Warming.. > > If you don't want your idocies mocked don't post them to usenet. > Indeed. -- To ban Christmas, simply give turkeys the vote.
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| From | The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2021-08-26 16:51 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <sg8d9l$eit$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #32870 |
On 26/08/2021 13:11, Rich wrote: > In comp.os.linux.misc The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote: >> On 26/08/2021 04:47, Jimmy Johnson wrote: >>> On 08/24/2021 06:19 AM, The Natural Philosopher wrote: >>> >>>> I dont give a rats ass about whether its FOSS or not. I care that it >>>> works, it's as secure as the people who do pick over the source code can >>>> make it, and well supported, up to and including porting third party >>>> apps to it. >>>> >>>> I got bored with the niceties of the moralities of software development >>>> sometime in the 1990s >>> >>>> Climate Change: Socialism wearing a lab coat. >>> >>> I don't like you. There is nothing nice or good about Corporations or >>> the rich owning Open Source or murder, you're nothing less than a $atan >>> loving fool with no place to run and no place to hide, so don't be >>> surprised when your day comes. And saying you don't believe won't help, >>> you've been warned. LOL >> >> Well I must say that is very antisocial of you. >> Did you get lost in someone else's Moral Maze? > > JJ's response would be the "hmm, you don't think like me, therefore you > must be _____" (pick your choice of "evil incarnate" for the blank). > > Far too many recently have fallen into a trap of forgetting (or > possibly never understanding in the first place) that different people > can hold different opinions and it is not the end of the world. I.e., > some have forgotten to "agree to disagree". > Well in the end some people - due mainly to insecurity one supposes - move from purveyors of perspectives to Holders of the One True View. Philosophy teaches one true fact, that there are no 'true' facts. There are only inductive propositions, whose truth content is indecidable. The problem with socialism per se, is that it is comprised of such people. The tenets of Marxism and so called socialism are pronounced as truth, not as informative perspectives. It's as bad as science, which at least has the excuse that its propositions are demonstrably not-false....yet anyway. -- Truth welcomes investigation because truth knows investigation will lead to converts. It is deception that uses all the other techniques.
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| From | F Russell <fr@random.info> |
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| Date | 2021-08-24 12:53 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <sg2q4s028g8@news2.newsguy.com> |
| In reply to | #32816 |
On Tue, 24 Aug 2021 08:10:49 +0200, Joerg Lorenz wrote: > > Your posting is utter bullshit. > Where is your proof or example to the contrary? Without it your statement is purely empty. But my claims remain unassailable -- except to shallow and deluded idiots like you. > > *You* are the dogmatic Troll here. > "Troll" is one of the three words in your entire pathetic vocabulary which in turn stems from your totally reflexive intelligence. You are the the blind that leads the lame. -- Systemd free. D.E. free. Always and forever.
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| From | SixOverFive <hae274b.net> |
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| Date | 2021-08-25 00:41 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <tuqdnUGN8Y9nVLj8nZ2dnUU7-RGdnZ2d@earthlink.com> |
| In reply to | #32818 |
On 08/24/2021 08:53 AM, F Russell wrote: > On Tue, 24 Aug 2021 08:10:49 +0200, Joerg Lorenz wrote: > >> >> Your posting is utter bullshit. >> > > Where is your proof or example to the contrary? Without... PEOPLE !!! What's going on here ??? There IS NO "best" Linux distro. What's "best" depends ENTIRELY on what YOU plan to DO with it. And there's also all the BSDs too ... resurrected Amiga-OS, Plan-9, DOS, CP/M, emulated C-64s, OS-9... it's ALL out there. What do YOU want to do with it ? My office PC has long been vanilla Debian, but I put UServer on my servers, I *like* OpenSuse, my notebooks are MX Linux, my favorite VM is Manjaro right now but I spent a day and a half making FreeBSD run in Virtualbox with XFCE and LXDE. It JUST DEPENDS. "Best" is a total illusion. OK ... DO note NONE of the abovementioned included Winders ... while there may not be a "best" there may indeed be a "WORST" :-) Well, SOMEWHERE, I have a Winders 1.0 floppy .... I even have a BYTE Magazine issue that reviews it ! (clue, C64/128 windowing systems were BETTER at the time).
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| From | The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2021-08-25 10:18 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <sg51ta$jce$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #32821 |
On 25/08/2021 05:41, SixOverFive wrote: > My office PC has long been vanilla Debian, but I put > UServer on my servers, I *like* OpenSuse, my notebooks > are MX Linux, my favorite VM is Manjaro right now but > I spent a day and a half making FreeBSD run in Virtualbox > with XFCE and LXDE. It JUST DEPENDS. "Best" is a total > illusion. I stick with one distro - Mint - because after messing around with many others, that proved optimal for *my desktop needs. It also runs on my local server. There is no need, but i am used to its foibles, and I likewise have Ubuntu on my main vps. Its popular and well supported. I haven't got time to be fannying around learning a hundred different arrangements of this or that -- Future generations will wonder in bemused amazement that the early twenty-first century’s developed world went into hysterical panic over a globally average temperature increase of a few tenths of a degree, and, on the basis of gross exaggerations of highly uncertain computer projections combined into implausible chains of inference, proceeded to contemplate a rollback of the industrial age. Richard Lindzen
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| From | "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
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| Date | 2021-08-25 11:56 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <mmghvh-thd.ln1@Telcontar.valinor> |
| In reply to | #32821 |
On 25/08/2021 06.41, SixOverFive wrote: > On 08/24/2021 08:53 AM, F Russell wrote: >> On Tue, 24 Aug 2021 08:10:49 +0200, Joerg Lorenz wrote: >> >>> >>> Your posting is utter bullshit. >>> >> >> Where is your proof or example to the contrary? Without... > > > PEOPLE !!! What's going on here ??? > > There IS NO "best" Linux distro. What's "best" depends > ENTIRELY on what YOU plan to DO with it. Oh, you must be new in these parts :-D F Russell is one of the local trolls, a fanatic. Linux has to be his way or it is evil. Systemd is evil. He likes a linux with basically no services, no init system, tailored solely for him. What the distributions do, a system that works as is for many people is evil. Linux for the masses is evil, it has to be for hackers only and must be difficult to use. He is impossible. Ah, and he hates personally the people that don't agree with him. He now and then posts something like that here, and sets the follow up to the advocacy group, to have a heated mad discussion there, I suppose. -- Cheers, Carlos.
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| From | Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2021-08-25 12:10 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <875yvtlqzi.fsf@LkoBDZeT.terraraq.uk> |
| In reply to | #32823 |
"Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> writes: > He now and then posts something like that here, and sets the follow up > to the advocacy group, to have a heated mad discussion there, I > suppose. And you indulge him. -- https://www.greenend.org.uk/rjk/
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| From | "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
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| Date | 2021-08-26 11:33 +0200 |
| Subject | Re: X-post and follow-Up (Was: What's the best linux distro?) |
| Message-ID | <un3kvh-5jq.ln1@Telcontar.valinor> |
| In reply to | #32824 |
On 26/08/2021 10.31, J.O. Aho wrote: > On 26/08/2021 06.13, RonB wrote: >> On 2021-08-26, jrg <jeff.g.group@att.net> wrote: >>> On 8/25/21 4:10 AM, Richard Kettlewell wrote: >>>> "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> writes: >>>>> He now and then posts something like that here, and sets the follow up >>>>> to the advocacy group, to have a heated mad discussion there, I >>>>> suppose. >>>> >>>> And you indulge him. >>>> >>> cross post deleted >>> >>> +1 >> >> My slrn scorefile deletes all crossposts automatically. I find that >> cleans >> up a newsgroup faster than anything else. >> > > Don't know which groups you subscribe for, but for me, most shit is > multi posts and not cross posted, not sure it's possible with G2-web > interface. That way you have half the posts of the thread in one group and half in the other, so that some people will not see yours. -- Cheers, Carlos.
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| From | Bud Frede <frede@mouse-potato.com> |
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| Date | 2021-08-29 06:52 -0400 |
| Subject | Re: X-post and follow-Up |
| Message-ID | <GFJWI.1824$VZ1.1204@fx08.iad> |
| In reply to | #32868 |
"Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> writes: > On 26/08/2021 10.31, J.O. Aho wrote: >> On 26/08/2021 06.13, RonB wrote: >>> On 2021-08-26, jrg <jeff.g.group@att.net> wrote: >>>> On 8/25/21 4:10 AM, Richard Kettlewell wrote: >>>>> "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> writes: >>>>>> He now and then posts something like that here, and sets the follow up >>>>>> to the advocacy group, to have a heated mad discussion there, I >>>>>> suppose. >>>>> >>>>> And you indulge him. >>>>> >>>> cross post deleted >>>> >>>> +1 >>> >>> My slrn scorefile deletes all crossposts automatically. I find that >>> cleans >>> up a newsgroup faster than anything else. >>> >> Don't know which groups you subscribe for, but for me, most shit is >> multi posts and not cross posted, not sure it's possible with G2-web >> interface. > > That way you have half the posts of the thread in one group and half > in the other, so that some people will not see yours. I tend to leave the groups alone when replying to a cross-posted article, although I do remove things like the advocacy cesspools.
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| From | "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
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| Date | 2021-08-29 14:02 +0200 |
| Subject | Re: X-post and follow-Up |
| Message-ID | <oj9svhxe1s.ln2@minas-tirith.valinor> |
| In reply to | #32961 |
On 29/08/2021 12.52, Bud Frede wrote:
> "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> writes:
>
>> On 26/08/2021 10.31, J.O. Aho wrote:
>>> On 26/08/2021 06.13, RonB wrote:
>>>> On 2021-08-26, jrg <jeff.g.group@att.net> wrote:
>>>>> On 8/25/21 4:10 AM, Richard Kettlewell wrote:
>>>>>> "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> writes:
>>>>>>> He now and then posts something like that here, and sets the follow up
>>>>>>> to the advocacy group, to have a heated mad discussion there, I
>>>>>>> suppose.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And you indulge him.
>>>>>>
>>>>> cross post deleted
>>>>>
>>>>> +1
>>>>
>>>> My slrn scorefile deletes all crossposts automatically. I find that
>>>> cleans
>>>> up a newsgroup faster than anything else.
>>>>
>>> Don't know which groups you subscribe for, but for me, most shit is
>>> multi posts and not cross posted, not sure it's possible with G2-web
>>> interface.
>>
>> That way you have half the posts of the thread in one group and half
>> in the other, so that some people will not see yours.
>
> I tend to leave the groups alone when replying to a cross-posted
> article, although I do remove things like the advocacy cesspools.
Certainly, me too. The two groups listed in this post are precisely just
that.
--
Cheers,
Carlos E.R.
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| From | The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2021-08-25 13:10 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <sg5bv9$m16$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #32823 |
On 25/08/2021 10:56, Carlos E.R. wrote: > Systemd is evil. Well on that I do agree. Goes completely against the principles of simplicity, transparency, and not doing stuff that was working perfectly well already -- For in reason, all government without the consent of the governed is the very definition of slavery. Jonathan Swift
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