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"Password" and "1234567" Still Favorite Passwords - And For Good REASONS

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First post2021-11-18 00:52 -0500
Last post2021-11-18 23:41 -0500
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  "Password" and "1234567" Still Favorite Passwords - And For Good REASONS 166p1 <z24ba6.net> - 2021-11-18 00:52 -0500
    Re: "Password" and "1234567" Still Favorite Passwords - And For Good REASONS The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-11-18 08:03 +0000
      Re: "Password" and "1234567" Still Favorite Passwords - And For Good REASONS Christopher Conforti <christopher@conforti.xyz> - 2022-02-19 05:32 +0100
    Re: "Password" and "1234567" Still Favorite Passwords - And For Good REASONS Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2021-11-18 09:17 +0000
      Re: "Password" and "1234567" Still Favorite Passwords - And For Good REASONS The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-11-18 09:39 +0000
        Re: "Password" and "1234567" Still Favorite Passwords - And For Good REASONS Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2021-11-19 04:46 +0200
          Re: "Password" and "1234567" Still Favorite Passwords - And For Good REASONS 166p1 <z24ba6.net> - 2021-11-18 22:39 -0500
            Re: "Password" and "1234567" Still Favorite Passwords - And For Good REASONS Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2021-11-19 08:29 +0000
              Re: "Password" and "1234567" Still Favorite Passwords - And For Good REASONS The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-11-19 09:05 +0000
            Re: "Password" and "1234567" Still Favorite Passwords - And For Good REASONS Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2021-11-20 05:04 +0200
          Re: "Password" and "1234567" Still Favorite Passwords - And For Good REASONS The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-11-19 09:04 +0000
    Re: "Password" and "1234567" Still Favorite Passwords - And For Good REASONS ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) - 2021-11-18 04:11 -0600
      Re: "Password" and "1234567" Still Favorite Passwords - And For Good REASONS pH <wNOSPAMp@gmail.org> - 2021-11-21 23:33 +0000
        Re: "Password" and "1234567" Still Favorite Passwords - And For Good REASONS Iterator Revamps <iter@domain.invalid> - 2021-12-03 05:42 +0000
          Re: "Password" and "1234567" Still Favorite Passwords - And For Good REASONS pH <wNOSPAMp@gmail.org> - 2021-12-03 17:32 +0000
            Re: "Password" and "1234567" Still Favorite Passwords - And For Good REASONS "25.BX943" <25BZ493@nada.net> - 2022-02-19 00:02 -0500
    Re: "Password" and "1234567" Still Favorite Passwords - And For Good REASONS Bobbie Sellers <bliss@mouse-potato.com> - 2021-11-18 07:51 -0800
      Re: "Password" and "1234567" Still Favorite Passwords - And For Good REASONS 166p1 <z24ba6.net> - 2021-11-18 22:57 -0500
    Re: "Password" and "1234567" Still Favorite Passwords - And For Good REASONS Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-11-18 12:03 -0500
      Re: "Password" and "1234567" Still Favorite Passwords - And For Good REASONS The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-11-18 18:03 +0000
        Re: "Password" and "1234567" Still Favorite Passwords - And For Good REASONS Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-11-18 20:52 -0500
          Re: "Password" and "1234567" Still Favorite Passwords - And For Good REASONS The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-11-19 09:00 +0000
        Re: "Password" and "1234567" Still Favorite Passwords - And For Good REASONS Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-11-19 03:11 +0000
          Re: "Password" and "1234567" Still Favorite Passwords - And For Good REASONS 166p1 <z24ba6.net> - 2021-11-28 02:01 -0500
    Re: "Password" and "1234567" Still Favorite Passwords - And For Good REASONS Marco Moock <mo01@posteo.de> - 2021-11-18 20:13 +0100
      Re: "Password" and "1234567" Still Favorite Passwords - And For Good REASONS 166p1 <z24ba6.net> - 2021-11-18 23:41 -0500

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#33671

FromAndreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net>
Date2021-11-18 20:52 -0500
Message-ID<87o86glxnc.fsf@usenet.ankman.de>
In reply to#33669
On Thu, 18 Nov 2021 18:03:59 +0000, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>
> On 18/11/2021 17:03, Andreas Kohlbach wrote:
>
>> "They" wont ever learn. My bet is that 123456 is still people's
>> favorite
>> password in 2030.
>> 
> You think people will still be able to count in 2030?

Do they today?

But I was about to add "...if mankind still exists in 2030".
-- 
Andreas

https://news-commentaries.blogspot.com/

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#33678

FromThe Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid>
Date2021-11-19 09:00 +0000
Message-ID<sn7p3s$8jk$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#33671
On 19/11/2021 01:52, Andreas Kohlbach wrote:
> On Thu, 18 Nov 2021 18:03:59 +0000, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>>
>> On 18/11/2021 17:03, Andreas Kohlbach wrote:
>>
>>> "They" wont ever learn. My bet is that 123456 is still people's
>>> favorite
>>> password in 2030.
>>>
>> You think people will still be able to count in 2030?
> 
> Do they today?
> 
> But I was about to add "...if mankind still exists in 2030".
> 
There is a reason why some people are called 'dumb fucks'

Intelligence is not always a survival asset.


-- 
When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men in a society, over 
the course of time they create for themselves a legal system that 
authorizes it and a moral code that glorifies it.

  Frédéric Bastiat

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#33673

FromCharlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid>
Date2021-11-19 03:11 +0000
Message-ID<gBElJ.39167$QB1.29554@fx42.iad>
In reply to#33669
On 2021-11-18, The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:

> On 18/11/2021 17:03, Andreas Kohlbach wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 18 Nov 2021 00:52:03 -0500, 166p1 <z24ba6.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-10209349/Passwords-123456-password-popular.html
>>>
>>> Will we EVER learn? '123456' and 'password' are still among the
>>> most popular passwords in the world – while many users continue
>>> to use their own name, report reveals
>> 
>> "They" wont ever learn. My bet is that 123456 is still people's favorite
>> password in 2030.
> 
> You think people will still be able to count in 2030?

"There's an app for that."

-- 
/~\  Charlie Gibbs                  |  Microsoft is a dictatorship.
\ /  <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid>      |  Apple is a cult.
 X   I'm really at ac.dekanfrus     |  Linux is anarchy.
/ \  if you read it the right way.  |  Pick your poison.

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#33743

From166p1 <z24ba6.net>
Date2021-11-28 02:01 -0500
Message-ID<TOadnWAPReH_tD78nZ2dnUU7-dOdnZ2d@earthlink.com>
In reply to#33673
On 11/18/21 10:11 PM, Charlie Gibbs wrote:
> On 2021-11-18, The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> 
>> On 18/11/2021 17:03, Andreas Kohlbach wrote:
>>
>>> On Thu, 18 Nov 2021 00:52:03 -0500, 166p1 <z24ba6.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-10209349/Passwords-123456-password-popular.html
>>>>
>>>> Will we EVER learn? '123456' and 'password' are still among the
>>>> most popular passwords in the world – while many users continue
>>>> to use their own name, report reveals
>>>
>>> "They" wont ever learn. My bet is that 123456 is still people's favorite
>>> password in 2030.
>>
>> You think people will still be able to count in 2030?
> 
> "There's an app for that."

   And there's some truth in that cynicism ...

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#33670

FromMarco Moock <mo01@posteo.de>
Date2021-11-18 20:13 +0100
Message-ID<20211118201340.67c1ba31@ryz>
In reply to#33658
Am Thu, 18 Nov 2021 00:52:03 -0500
schrieb 166p1 <z24ba6.net>:

> Will we EVER learn? '123456' and 'password' are still among the
> most popular passwords in the world – while many users continue
> to use their own name, report reveals
No, people will not learn that. They also don't care about it.
If their accounts get hacked, they will be disabled and they can't use
the service anymore. This is the only way they learn that.

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#33676

From166p1 <z24ba6.net>
Date2021-11-18 23:41 -0500
Message-ID<L9udnao0P996twr8nZ2dnUU7-VnNnZ2d@earthlink.com>
In reply to#33670
On 11/18/21 2:13 PM, Marco Moock wrote:
> Am Thu, 18 Nov 2021 00:52:03 -0500
> schrieb 166p1 <z24ba6.net>:
> 
>> Will we EVER learn? '123456' and 'password' are still among the
>> most popular passwords in the world – while many users continue
>> to use their own name, report reveals
> No, people will not learn that. They also don't care about it.
> If their accounts get hacked, they will be disabled and they can't use
> the service anymore. This is the only way they learn that.
> 

   Probably not even then.

   Amazon UK has announced that it will no longer be
   accepting VISA starting Jan 1 because the transaction
   fee VISA charges is too high. But WHY is it too high ?
   Because their banks are super-greedy ? Not quite. It's
   because SO many people get their numbers STOLEN and
   the banks at least have to do a fair job of pretending
   you're not scammin' when you say YOU didn't buy 'X'.
   The transaction fee is really a fraud-recovery fee.
   And less VISA use just means the others will get scammed
   all the more and THEIR fees will become impossible to
   ignore .......

   Credit cards, phone and online orders, all started in
   a different social environment - where people WERE
   more honest and you didn't have to worry about
   Romanian hackers.

   Oh, Amazon UK *will* keep accepting VISA *debit cards*.
   Why ? Because the rules on recovering ripped-off money
   are a LOT more restrictive for debit cards. Basically
   the banks can say "Sorry Sucker - now Fuck Off".
   Never keep more in one of those accounts than you're
   willing to lose - and DO disconnect that account from
   any others you have. Actually, disconnect ALL accounts
   from each other, no "overdraft protection" either where
   they steal from account 'B' to pay for account 'A'.

   A few banks USED to offer a funky service that would
   give you a fake CC number - good for an amount, and
   time range, you specified. At least at the time the
   hackers weren't into THAT service. Maybe it's time
   to revive something like that. But how will they
   keep out the hackers NOW that all their servers are
   conveniently, cheaply, remotely managed with SolarWinds
   or equivalent ?

   My favorite hack story had to do with Target stores.
   The hacks didn't bother to breech the company database,
   they hacked the little terminals at the counter people
   stuck their cards into .....

   Cash money at the Wal-Mart - still the safest way.
   Now if we can just get them to accept gold ... :-)

   Hmm ... there ARE x-ray based scanners - hand-held -
   that can give you an elemental/percentage readout
   in about a second for any alloy. With that, paying
   in gold and silver really COULD make a comeback ...

   Oh well, anyway ... I think I've brought up a valid issue
   for the modern world. Hyper-security is needed - but it's
   SUCH a pain in the ass that people won't put up with it
   and gimmicks will only get you just so far, just so much
   protection, just so much convenience. We need a whole
   new thing - or a very old thing - and I don't SEE it.

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