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| Started by | 166p1 <z24ba6.net> |
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| First post | 2021-11-18 00:52 -0500 |
| Last post | 2021-11-18 23:41 -0500 |
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"Password" and "1234567" Still Favorite Passwords - And For Good REASONS 166p1 <z24ba6.net> - 2021-11-18 00:52 -0500
Re: "Password" and "1234567" Still Favorite Passwords - And For Good REASONS The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-11-18 08:03 +0000
Re: "Password" and "1234567" Still Favorite Passwords - And For Good REASONS Christopher Conforti <christopher@conforti.xyz> - 2022-02-19 05:32 +0100
Re: "Password" and "1234567" Still Favorite Passwords - And For Good REASONS Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2021-11-18 09:17 +0000
Re: "Password" and "1234567" Still Favorite Passwords - And For Good REASONS The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-11-18 09:39 +0000
Re: "Password" and "1234567" Still Favorite Passwords - And For Good REASONS Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2021-11-19 04:46 +0200
Re: "Password" and "1234567" Still Favorite Passwords - And For Good REASONS 166p1 <z24ba6.net> - 2021-11-18 22:39 -0500
Re: "Password" and "1234567" Still Favorite Passwords - And For Good REASONS Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2021-11-19 08:29 +0000
Re: "Password" and "1234567" Still Favorite Passwords - And For Good REASONS The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-11-19 09:05 +0000
Re: "Password" and "1234567" Still Favorite Passwords - And For Good REASONS Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2021-11-20 05:04 +0200
Re: "Password" and "1234567" Still Favorite Passwords - And For Good REASONS The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-11-19 09:04 +0000
Re: "Password" and "1234567" Still Favorite Passwords - And For Good REASONS ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) - 2021-11-18 04:11 -0600
Re: "Password" and "1234567" Still Favorite Passwords - And For Good REASONS pH <wNOSPAMp@gmail.org> - 2021-11-21 23:33 +0000
Re: "Password" and "1234567" Still Favorite Passwords - And For Good REASONS Iterator Revamps <iter@domain.invalid> - 2021-12-03 05:42 +0000
Re: "Password" and "1234567" Still Favorite Passwords - And For Good REASONS pH <wNOSPAMp@gmail.org> - 2021-12-03 17:32 +0000
Re: "Password" and "1234567" Still Favorite Passwords - And For Good REASONS "25.BX943" <25BZ493@nada.net> - 2022-02-19 00:02 -0500
Re: "Password" and "1234567" Still Favorite Passwords - And For Good REASONS Bobbie Sellers <bliss@mouse-potato.com> - 2021-11-18 07:51 -0800
Re: "Password" and "1234567" Still Favorite Passwords - And For Good REASONS 166p1 <z24ba6.net> - 2021-11-18 22:57 -0500
Re: "Password" and "1234567" Still Favorite Passwords - And For Good REASONS Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-11-18 12:03 -0500
Re: "Password" and "1234567" Still Favorite Passwords - And For Good REASONS The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-11-18 18:03 +0000
Re: "Password" and "1234567" Still Favorite Passwords - And For Good REASONS Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-11-18 20:52 -0500
Re: "Password" and "1234567" Still Favorite Passwords - And For Good REASONS The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-11-19 09:00 +0000
Re: "Password" and "1234567" Still Favorite Passwords - And For Good REASONS Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-11-19 03:11 +0000
Re: "Password" and "1234567" Still Favorite Passwords - And For Good REASONS 166p1 <z24ba6.net> - 2021-11-28 02:01 -0500
Re: "Password" and "1234567" Still Favorite Passwords - And For Good REASONS Marco Moock <mo01@posteo.de> - 2021-11-18 20:13 +0100
Re: "Password" and "1234567" Still Favorite Passwords - And For Good REASONS 166p1 <z24ba6.net> - 2021-11-18 23:41 -0500
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| From | Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> |
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| Date | 2021-11-18 20:52 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <87o86glxnc.fsf@usenet.ankman.de> |
| In reply to | #33669 |
On Thu, 18 Nov 2021 18:03:59 +0000, The Natural Philosopher wrote: > > On 18/11/2021 17:03, Andreas Kohlbach wrote: > >> "They" wont ever learn. My bet is that 123456 is still people's >> favorite >> password in 2030. >> > You think people will still be able to count in 2030? Do they today? But I was about to add "...if mankind still exists in 2030". -- Andreas https://news-commentaries.blogspot.com/
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| From | The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2021-11-19 09:00 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <sn7p3s$8jk$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #33671 |
On 19/11/2021 01:52, Andreas Kohlbach wrote: > On Thu, 18 Nov 2021 18:03:59 +0000, The Natural Philosopher wrote: >> >> On 18/11/2021 17:03, Andreas Kohlbach wrote: >> >>> "They" wont ever learn. My bet is that 123456 is still people's >>> favorite >>> password in 2030. >>> >> You think people will still be able to count in 2030? > > Do they today? > > But I was about to add "...if mankind still exists in 2030". > There is a reason why some people are called 'dumb fucks' Intelligence is not always a survival asset. -- When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men in a society, over the course of time they create for themselves a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that glorifies it. Frédéric Bastiat
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| From | Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> |
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| Date | 2021-11-19 03:11 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <gBElJ.39167$QB1.29554@fx42.iad> |
| In reply to | #33669 |
On 2021-11-18, The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote: > On 18/11/2021 17:03, Andreas Kohlbach wrote: > >> On Thu, 18 Nov 2021 00:52:03 -0500, 166p1 <z24ba6.net> wrote: >>> >>> https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-10209349/Passwords-123456-password-popular.html >>> >>> Will we EVER learn? '123456' and 'password' are still among the >>> most popular passwords in the world – while many users continue >>> to use their own name, report reveals >> >> "They" wont ever learn. My bet is that 123456 is still people's favorite >> password in 2030. > > You think people will still be able to count in 2030? "There's an app for that." -- /~\ Charlie Gibbs | Microsoft is a dictatorship. \ / <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> | Apple is a cult. X I'm really at ac.dekanfrus | Linux is anarchy. / \ if you read it the right way. | Pick your poison.
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| From | 166p1 <z24ba6.net> |
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| Date | 2021-11-28 02:01 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <TOadnWAPReH_tD78nZ2dnUU7-dOdnZ2d@earthlink.com> |
| In reply to | #33673 |
On 11/18/21 10:11 PM, Charlie Gibbs wrote: > On 2021-11-18, The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote: > >> On 18/11/2021 17:03, Andreas Kohlbach wrote: >> >>> On Thu, 18 Nov 2021 00:52:03 -0500, 166p1 <z24ba6.net> wrote: >>>> >>>> https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-10209349/Passwords-123456-password-popular.html >>>> >>>> Will we EVER learn? '123456' and 'password' are still among the >>>> most popular passwords in the world – while many users continue >>>> to use their own name, report reveals >>> >>> "They" wont ever learn. My bet is that 123456 is still people's favorite >>> password in 2030. >> >> You think people will still be able to count in 2030? > > "There's an app for that." And there's some truth in that cynicism ...
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| From | Marco Moock <mo01@posteo.de> |
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| Date | 2021-11-18 20:13 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <20211118201340.67c1ba31@ryz> |
| In reply to | #33658 |
Am Thu, 18 Nov 2021 00:52:03 -0500 schrieb 166p1 <z24ba6.net>: > Will we EVER learn? '123456' and 'password' are still among the > most popular passwords in the world – while many users continue > to use their own name, report reveals No, people will not learn that. They also don't care about it. If their accounts get hacked, they will be disabled and they can't use the service anymore. This is the only way they learn that.
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| From | 166p1 <z24ba6.net> |
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| Date | 2021-11-18 23:41 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <L9udnao0P996twr8nZ2dnUU7-VnNnZ2d@earthlink.com> |
| In reply to | #33670 |
On 11/18/21 2:13 PM, Marco Moock wrote: > Am Thu, 18 Nov 2021 00:52:03 -0500 > schrieb 166p1 <z24ba6.net>: > >> Will we EVER learn? '123456' and 'password' are still among the >> most popular passwords in the world – while many users continue >> to use their own name, report reveals > No, people will not learn that. They also don't care about it. > If their accounts get hacked, they will be disabled and they can't use > the service anymore. This is the only way they learn that. > Probably not even then. Amazon UK has announced that it will no longer be accepting VISA starting Jan 1 because the transaction fee VISA charges is too high. But WHY is it too high ? Because their banks are super-greedy ? Not quite. It's because SO many people get their numbers STOLEN and the banks at least have to do a fair job of pretending you're not scammin' when you say YOU didn't buy 'X'. The transaction fee is really a fraud-recovery fee. And less VISA use just means the others will get scammed all the more and THEIR fees will become impossible to ignore ....... Credit cards, phone and online orders, all started in a different social environment - where people WERE more honest and you didn't have to worry about Romanian hackers. Oh, Amazon UK *will* keep accepting VISA *debit cards*. Why ? Because the rules on recovering ripped-off money are a LOT more restrictive for debit cards. Basically the banks can say "Sorry Sucker - now Fuck Off". Never keep more in one of those accounts than you're willing to lose - and DO disconnect that account from any others you have. Actually, disconnect ALL accounts from each other, no "overdraft protection" either where they steal from account 'B' to pay for account 'A'. A few banks USED to offer a funky service that would give you a fake CC number - good for an amount, and time range, you specified. At least at the time the hackers weren't into THAT service. Maybe it's time to revive something like that. But how will they keep out the hackers NOW that all their servers are conveniently, cheaply, remotely managed with SolarWinds or equivalent ? My favorite hack story had to do with Target stores. The hacks didn't bother to breech the company database, they hacked the little terminals at the counter people stuck their cards into ..... Cash money at the Wal-Mart - still the safest way. Now if we can just get them to accept gold ... :-) Hmm ... there ARE x-ray based scanners - hand-held - that can give you an elemental/percentage readout in about a second for any alloy. With that, paying in gold and silver really COULD make a comeback ... Oh well, anyway ... I think I've brought up a valid issue for the modern world. Hyper-security is needed - but it's SUCH a pain in the ass that people won't put up with it and gimmicks will only get you just so far, just so much protection, just so much convenience. We need a whole new thing - or a very old thing - and I don't SEE it.
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