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  "Password" and "1234567" Still Favorite Passwords - And For Good REASONS 166p1 <z24ba6.net> - 2021-11-18 00:52 -0500
    Re: "Password" and "1234567" Still Favorite Passwords - And For Good REASONS The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-11-18 08:03 +0000
      Re: "Password" and "1234567" Still Favorite Passwords - And For Good REASONS Christopher Conforti <christopher@conforti.xyz> - 2022-02-19 05:32 +0100
    Re: "Password" and "1234567" Still Favorite Passwords - And For Good REASONS Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2021-11-18 09:17 +0000
      Re: "Password" and "1234567" Still Favorite Passwords - And For Good REASONS The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-11-18 09:39 +0000
        Re: "Password" and "1234567" Still Favorite Passwords - And For Good REASONS Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2021-11-19 04:46 +0200
          Re: "Password" and "1234567" Still Favorite Passwords - And For Good REASONS 166p1 <z24ba6.net> - 2021-11-18 22:39 -0500
            Re: "Password" and "1234567" Still Favorite Passwords - And For Good REASONS Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2021-11-19 08:29 +0000
              Re: "Password" and "1234567" Still Favorite Passwords - And For Good REASONS The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-11-19 09:05 +0000
            Re: "Password" and "1234567" Still Favorite Passwords - And For Good REASONS Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2021-11-20 05:04 +0200
          Re: "Password" and "1234567" Still Favorite Passwords - And For Good REASONS The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-11-19 09:04 +0000
    Re: "Password" and "1234567" Still Favorite Passwords - And For Good REASONS ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) - 2021-11-18 04:11 -0600
      Re: "Password" and "1234567" Still Favorite Passwords - And For Good REASONS pH <wNOSPAMp@gmail.org> - 2021-11-21 23:33 +0000
        Re: "Password" and "1234567" Still Favorite Passwords - And For Good REASONS Iterator Revamps <iter@domain.invalid> - 2021-12-03 05:42 +0000
          Re: "Password" and "1234567" Still Favorite Passwords - And For Good REASONS pH <wNOSPAMp@gmail.org> - 2021-12-03 17:32 +0000
            Re: "Password" and "1234567" Still Favorite Passwords - And For Good REASONS "25.BX943" <25BZ493@nada.net> - 2022-02-19 00:02 -0500
    Re: "Password" and "1234567" Still Favorite Passwords - And For Good REASONS Bobbie Sellers <bliss@mouse-potato.com> - 2021-11-18 07:51 -0800
      Re: "Password" and "1234567" Still Favorite Passwords - And For Good REASONS 166p1 <z24ba6.net> - 2021-11-18 22:57 -0500
    Re: "Password" and "1234567" Still Favorite Passwords - And For Good REASONS Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-11-18 12:03 -0500
      Re: "Password" and "1234567" Still Favorite Passwords - And For Good REASONS The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-11-18 18:03 +0000
        Re: "Password" and "1234567" Still Favorite Passwords - And For Good REASONS Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-11-18 20:52 -0500
          Re: "Password" and "1234567" Still Favorite Passwords - And For Good REASONS The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-11-19 09:00 +0000
        Re: "Password" and "1234567" Still Favorite Passwords - And For Good REASONS Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-11-19 03:11 +0000
          Re: "Password" and "1234567" Still Favorite Passwords - And For Good REASONS 166p1 <z24ba6.net> - 2021-11-28 02:01 -0500
    Re: "Password" and "1234567" Still Favorite Passwords - And For Good REASONS Marco Moock <mo01@posteo.de> - 2021-11-18 20:13 +0100
      Re: "Password" and "1234567" Still Favorite Passwords - And For Good REASONS 166p1 <z24ba6.net> - 2021-11-18 23:41 -0500

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#33658 — "Password" and "1234567" Still Favorite Passwords - And For Good REASONS

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-10209349/Passwords-123456-password-popular.html

Will we EVER learn? '123456' and 'password' are still among the
most popular passwords in the world – while many users continue
to use their own name, report reveals

The annual NordPass Most Common Passwords report revealed common
trends.  It found that people are still using very simple and easy
to guess passwords including '123456', 'password' and 'qwerty'
which can be cracked in a second. There were local and gender
differences including sports teams as passwords.

. . . .

SysAdmin ??? Well THIS is what you're up against - and
it's NOT going to change.

Users would rather live with unknown risks than suffer
with passwords and other procedures that are impossible
to remember or a pain to cope with. They WILL find a
way around difficult edicts - or they'll quit and take
all their job experience with them.

But, when it goes bad, the SysAdmins get the blame.

Look, cybercommerce/cyberbanking SOUNDED great. But
people are NOT going to cope with "dffNs%h##fj3d7xuz"
passwords plus text-messages on smartphones they may
not even own plus biometrics that won't recognize
you if you grew a beard or cut your thumb or dropped
20 pounds plus inscruitable captchas. And WHY don't
you know the name of your maiden aunts 3rd cousin's
favorite pet gerbil ???!!!

Nobody is going to put up with such shit.

Sorry, but "convenient" was one of the main drives
behind online commerce/banking. Now they feel they
have to make it as INconvenient as possible just to
stay half a step ahead of cyberCRIME. This is NOT
working out.

I'll tell you the solution ... and you won't like it ...
physically go TO your bank and do business with bits
of PAPER in front of people there who KNOW your face.
SHOP online, but print the order form, fill it out
in ink, and physically MAIL it to the seller. Might
not hurt to include a PAPER *CHECK* inside to cover
the purchase - again something tangible, something
they'll at least have to scan. Use a Sharpie pen
to write the check too - something that can't be
washed out.

Oh, and you can go to physical STORES ... they have
all kinds of interesting things on big rows of
shelves ... and there's a thing called "cash" you
can use to buy those fascinating items.

This 1950-ish approach WILL thwart crime. Because
of human nature, NOTHING will thwart it using
todays methods. 'Convenient' for you ? PARADISE
for the cybercriminals and cyberterrorists.

This is the horrible bitter Truth, and you KNOW it.

SysAdmin ? Contract ? Slip "NOT responsible for events
resulting from users employing poor passwords/technique"
in there. If they won't accept that - QUIT - you'll be
saving yourself endless trouble. Put them on the blacklist
at all the job-search sites.

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#33660

On 18/11/2021 05:52, 166p1 wrote:
> Oh, and you can go to physical STORES ... they have
> all kinds of interesting things on big rows of
> shelves ... and there's a thing called "cash" you
> can use to buy those fascinating items.
> 
> This 1950-ish approach WILL thwart crime. Because
> of human nature, NOTHING will thwart it using
> todays methods. 'Convenient' for you ? PARADISE
> for the cybercriminals and cyberterrorists.

Carry cash around? and get short changed and get mugged, like we did in 
the 1950s? Not to mention te retailer denying the transaction ever took 
place as there is no record of it? no thanks!

It's easier to dream up passwords that are instantly memorable to you, 
but unguessable by anyone else....

GimmeMyDollar$ok!

-- 
When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men in a society, over 
the course of time they create for themselves a legal system that 
authorizes it and a moral code that glorifies it.

  Frédéric Bastiat

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#34309

On Thu, 18 Nov 2021 08:03:51 +0000, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

> Not to mention te retailer denying the transaction ever took place as
> there is no record of it? no thanks!

Isn't that a good thing? Because then I also have a better chance at 
denying the transaction ever took place if LEOs come snooping. Far as 
they know, it teleported into my garage.

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#33661

166p1 <z24ba6.net> writes:

> https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-10209349/Passwords-123456-password-popular.html
>
> Will we EVER learn? '123456' and 'password' are still among the
> most popular passwords in the world – while many users continue
> to use their own name, report reveals
[...]
> But, when it goes bad, the SysAdmins get the blame.

Websites should certainly be rejecting well-known passwords.

> Look, cybercommerce/cyberbanking SOUNDED great. But
> people are NOT going to cope with "dffNs%h##fj3d7xuz"
> passwords plus text-messages on smartphones they may
> not even own plus biometrics that won't recognize
> you if you grew a beard or cut your thumb or dropped
> 20 pounds plus inscruitable captchas. And WHY don't
> you know the name of your maiden aunts 3rd cousin's
> favorite pet gerbil ???!!!
>
> Nobody is going to put up with such shit.
>
> Sorry, but "convenient" was one of the main drives
> behind online commerce/banking. Now they feel they
> have to make it as INconvenient as possible just to
> stay half a step ahead of cyberCRIME. This is NOT
> working out.
>
> I'll tell you the solution ...

Use a password manager.

-- 
https://www.greenend.org.uk/rjk/

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#33662

On 18/11/2021 09:17, Richard Kettlewell wrote:
>> I'll tell you the solution ...
> Use a password manager.

indeed.

I have passwords for so many odd accounts - now mostly I let firefox 
handle the ones that don't involve money.

But a password manger handles the 'once a year'  usage ones.
I cant remember what I typed in to woolly-jumpers.com 18 months ago...


-- 
Gun Control: The law that ensures that only criminals have guns.

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#33672

On Thu, 18 Nov 2021 09:39:04 +0000, The Natural Philosopher
<tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:

>I have passwords for so many odd accounts - now mostly I let firefox 
>handle the ones that don't involve money.

Ditto.

>But a password manger handles the 'once a year'  usage ones.
>I cant remember what I typed in to woolly-jumpers.com 18 months ago...

I use a password-protected database program to record all passwords.
No doubt if someone stole my computer they could eventually crack it,
but I doubt rhar even one in a hundred computer thieves would bother
to do that. They'd either use it or flog it. 

And when asked for a password on a site I pick up the nearest book,
pick a word from the title, or a random word from a random page, add a
couple of non-alphanumeric characters, and put that in my database. 


-- 
Steve Hayes from Tshwane, South Africa
Web:  http://www.khanya.org.za/stevesig.htm
Blog: http://khanya.wordpress.com
E-mail - see web page, or parse: shayes at dunelm full stop org full stop uk

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#33674

On 11/18/21 9:46 PM, Steve Hayes wrote:
> On Thu, 18 Nov 2021 09:39:04 +0000, The Natural Philosopher
> <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> 
>> I have passwords for so many odd accounts - now mostly I let firefox
>> handle the ones that don't involve money.
> 
> Ditto.
> 
>> But a password manger handles the 'once a year'  usage ones.
>> I cant remember what I typed in to woolly-jumpers.com 18 months ago...
> 
> I use a password-protected database program to record all passwords.
> No doubt if someone stole my computer they could eventually crack it,
> but I doubt rhar even one in a hundred computer thieves would bother
> to do that. They'd either use it or flog it.
> 
> And when asked for a password on a site I pick up the nearest book,
> pick a word from the title, or a random word from a random page, add a
> couple of non-alphanumeric characters, and put that in my database.

   They don't have to crack it really - they just have to
   pretend to be you - open the thing and read the plaintext
   entries. There are also person-in-the-middle approaches
   as the manager effectively types the real PW to the
   online form which may, or may NOT, be real.

   So, don't count on a gimmick to solve The Problem here.

   Oh, and if yer box crashes, how do YOU remember the
   obscure passwords ? Got 'em written down somewhere -
   oh wait, nobody "writes" anymore ... they're in
   a word-processing file somewhere, aren't they ?

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#33677

166p1 <z24ba6.net> writes:
>   Oh, and if yer box crashes, how do YOU remember the
>   obscure passwords ?

Restore from backups.

-- 
https://www.greenend.org.uk/rjk/

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#33680

On 19/11/2021 08:29, Richard Kettlewell wrote:
> 166p1 <z24ba6.net> writes:
>>    Oh, and if yer box crashes, how do YOU remember the
>>    obscure passwords ?
> 
> Restore from backups.
> 
+1


-- 
“when things get difficult you just have to lie”

― Jean Claud Jüncker

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#33681

On Thu, 18 Nov 2021 22:39:03 -0500, 166p1 <z24ba6.net> wrote:

>   Oh, and if yer box crashes, how do YOU remember the
>   obscure passwords ? Got 'em written down somewhere -
>   oh wait, nobody "writes" anymore ... they're in
>   a word-processing file somewhere, aren't they ?

I have them on the USB flash drives that I use to transfer data
between by desktop and laptop.


-- 
Steve Hayes from Tshwane, South Africa
Web:  http://www.khanya.org.za/stevesig.htm
Blog: http://khanya.wordpress.com
E-mail - see web page, or parse: shayes at dunelm full stop org full stop uk

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#33679

On 19/11/2021 02:46, Steve Hayes wrote:
> And when asked for a password on a site I pick up the nearest book,
> pick a word from the title, or a random word from a random page, add a
> couple of non-alphanumeric characters, and put that in my database.

I used to use either old car registration numbers - random 7 character 
alphanumerics - or look out of the window and use the first thing I saw. 
'red.bus' or 'hot!chick' and so on.

Its not getting so complicated that i need a password manager because 
there are often two passwords - an initial one and a memorable word.

-- 
When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men in a society, over 
the course of time they create for themselves a legal system that 
authorizes it and a moral code that glorifies it.

  Frédéric Bastiat

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#33663

People don't care. It will be forever. :(

In comp.os.linux.misc 166p1 <z24ba6.net> wrote:
> https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-10209349/Passwords-123456-password-popular.html

> Will we EVER learn? '123456' and 'password' are still among the
> most popular passwords in the world ??? while many users continue
> to use their own name, report reveals

> The annual NordPass Most Common Passwords report revealed common
> trends.  It found that people are still using very simple and easy
> to guess passwords including '123456', 'password' and 'qwerty'
> which can be cracked in a second. There were local and gender
> differences including sports teams as passwords.

> . . . .

> SysAdmin ??? Well THIS is what you're up against - and
> it's NOT going to change.

> Users would rather live with unknown risks than suffer
> with passwords and other procedures that are impossible
> to remember or a pain to cope with. They WILL find a
> way around difficult edicts - or they'll quit and take
> all their job experience with them.

> But, when it goes bad, the SysAdmins get the blame.

> Look, cybercommerce/cyberbanking SOUNDED great. But
> people are NOT going to cope with "dffNs%h##fj3d7xuz"
> passwords plus text-messages on smartphones they may
> not even own plus biometrics that won't recognize
> you if you grew a beard or cut your thumb or dropped
> 20 pounds plus inscruitable captchas. And WHY don't
> you know the name of your maiden aunts 3rd cousin's
> favorite pet gerbil ???!!!

> Nobody is going to put up with such shit.

> Sorry, but "convenient" was one of the main drives
> behind online commerce/banking. Now they feel they
> have to make it as INconvenient as possible just to
> stay half a step ahead of cyberCRIME. This is NOT
> working out.

> I'll tell you the solution ... and you won't like it ...
> physically go TO your bank and do business with bits
> of PAPER in front of people there who KNOW your face.
> SHOP online, but print the order form, fill it out
> in ink, and physically MAIL it to the seller. Might
> not hurt to include a PAPER *CHECK* inside to cover
> the purchase - again something tangible, something
> they'll at least have to scan. Use a Sharpie pen
> to write the check too - something that can't be
> washed out.

> Oh, and you can go to physical STORES ... they have
> all kinds of interesting things on big rows of
> shelves ... and there's a thing called "cash" you
> can use to buy those fascinating items.

> This 1950-ish approach WILL thwart crime. Because
> of human nature, NOTHING will thwart it using
> todays methods. 'Convenient' for you ? PARADISE
> for the cybercriminals and cyberterrorists.

> This is the horrible bitter Truth, and you KNOW it.

> SysAdmin ? Contract ? Slip "NOT responsible for events
> resulting from users employing poor passwords/technique"
> in there. If they won't accept that - QUIT - you'll be
> saving yourself endless trouble. Put them on the blacklist
> at all the job-search sites.

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#33699

On 2021-11-18, Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote:
> People don't care. It will be forever. :(
>
> In comp.os.linux.misc 166p1 <z24ba6.net> wrote:
>> https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-10209349/Passwords-123456-password-popular.html
>
>> Will we EVER learn? '123456' and 'password' are still among the
>> most popular passwords in the world ??? while many users continue
>> to use their own name, report reveals
>
>> The annual NordPass Most Common Passwords report revealed common
>> trends.  It found that people are still using very simple and easy
>> to guess passwords including '123456', 'password' and 'qwerty'
>> which can be cracked in a second. There were local and gender
>> differences including sports teams as passwords.
>
>> . . . .
>
>> SysAdmin ??? Well THIS is what you're up against - and
>> it's NOT going to change.
>
>> Users would rather live with unknown risks than suffer
>> with passwords and other procedures that are impossible
>> to remember or a pain to cope with. They WILL find a
>> way around difficult edicts - or they'll quit and take
>> all their job experience with them.
>
>> But, when it goes bad, the SysAdmins get the blame.
>
>> Look, cybercommerce/cyberbanking SOUNDED great. But
>> people are NOT going to cope with "dffNs%h##fj3d7xuz"
>> passwords plus text-messages on smartphones they may
>> not even own plus biometrics that won't recognize
>> you if you grew a beard or cut your thumb or dropped
>> 20 pounds plus inscruitable captchas. And WHY don't
>> you know the name of your maiden aunts 3rd cousin's
>> favorite pet gerbil ???!!!
>
>> Nobody is going to put up with such shit.
>
<snip>
Actually, writing checks and mailing them, using cash...that's 
pretty much how I run my life.
Small knick-knacks on line, but no major shopping that way.

pH in Aptos

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#33805

On Sun, 21 Nov 2021 23:33:21 +0000, pH wrote:

> Actually, writing checks and mailing them, using cash...that's pretty
> much how I run my life.
> Small knick-knacks on line, but no major shopping that way.

"Checks"? How quaint. I use IOU's!

-- 
for(int i=0;1<99;i++) {printf("meh");}

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#33806

On 2021-12-03, Iterator Revamps <iter@domain.invalid> wrote:
> On Sun, 21 Nov 2021 23:33:21 +0000, pH wrote:
>
>> Actually, writing checks and mailing them, using cash...that's pretty
>> much how I run my life.
>> Small knick-knacks on line, but no major shopping that way.
>
> "Checks"? How quaint. I use IOU's!
>

Another excellent choice!  Everything else is worth the paper it's written
on.

pH

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#34310

On 12/3/21 12:32 PM, pH wrote:
> On 2021-12-03, Iterator Revamps <iter@domain.invalid> wrote:
>> On Sun, 21 Nov 2021 23:33:21 +0000, pH wrote:
>>
>>> Actually, writing checks and mailing them, using cash...that's pretty
>>> much how I run my life.
>>> Small knick-knacks on line, but no major shopping that way.
>>
>> "Checks"? How quaint. I use IOU's!
>>
> 
> Another excellent choice!  Everything else is worth the paper it's written
> on.

    Shhhhh ! Without a paper economy we - indeed most of
    the world - have no economy at all ! The illusion
    MUST be maintained.

    How many chickens can you deliver to pay for a pig ?

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#33666

On 11/17/21 21:52, 166p1 wrote:
> https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-10209349/Passwords-123456-password-popular.html 
> 
> 
> Will we EVER learn? '123456' and 'password' are still among the
> most popular passwords in the world – while many users continue
> to use their own name, report reveals
> 
> The annual NordPass Most Common Passwords report revealed common
> trends.  It found that people are still using very simple and easy
> to guess passwords including '123456', 'password' and 'qwerty'
> which can be cracked in a second. There were local and gender
> differences including sports teams as passwords.

	Well this password choice needs to be a relegated to a password
generator which Prints the Password on the screen with instruction to
all applicants and tell them to write it down, reenter it to be sure
that they have it and then all sign on again for access.  It will
have to be a uniform requirement across all platforms,  Then the
usual security questions in case a notebook is lost.

	Just my humble User's opinion.

     bliss -bliss - brought to you by the power and ease of PCLinuxOS 
            and a minor case of hypergraphia

> 
> . . . .
> 
> SysAdmin ??? Well THIS is what you're up against - and
> it's NOT going to change.
> 
> Users would rather live with unknown risks than suffer
> with passwords and other procedures that are impossible
> to remember or a pain to cope with. They WILL find a
> way around difficult edicts - or they'll quit and take
> all their job experience with them.
> 
> But, when it goes bad, the SysAdmins get the blame.
> 
> Look, cybercommerce/cyberbanking SOUNDED great. But
> people are NOT going to cope with "dffNs%h##fj3d7xuz"
> passwords plus text-messages on smartphones they may
> not even own plus biometrics that won't recognize
> you if you grew a beard or cut your thumb or dropped
> 20 pounds plus inscruitable captchas. And WHY don't
> you know the name of your maiden aunts 3rd cousin's
> favorite pet gerbil ???!!!
> 
> Nobody is going to put up with such shit.
> 
> Sorry, but "convenient" was one of the main drives
> behind online commerce/banking. Now they feel they
> have to make it as INconvenient as possible just to
> stay half a step ahead of cyberCRIME. This is NOT
> working out.
> 
> I'll tell you the solution ... and you won't like it ...
> physically go TO your bank and do business with bits
> of PAPER in front of people there who KNOW your face.
> SHOP online, but print the order form, fill it out
> in ink, and physically MAIL it to the seller. Might
> not hurt to include a PAPER *CHECK* inside to cover
> the purchase - again something tangible, something
> they'll at least have to scan. Use a Sharpie pen
> to write the check too - something that can't be
> washed out.
> 
> Oh, and you can go to physical STORES ... they have
> all kinds of interesting things on big rows of
> shelves ... and there's a thing called "cash" you
> can use to buy those fascinating items.
> 
> This 1950-ish approach WILL thwart crime. Because
> of human nature, NOTHING will thwart it using
> todays methods. 'Convenient' for you ? PARADISE
> for the cybercriminals and cyberterrorists.
> 
> This is the horrible bitter Truth, and you KNOW it.
> 
> SysAdmin ? Contract ? Slip "NOT responsible for events
> resulting from users employing poor passwords/technique"
> in there. If they won't accept that - QUIT - you'll be
> saving yourself endless trouble. Put them on the blacklist
> at all the job-search sites.


-- 
bliss dash SF 4 ever at dslextreme dot com

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#33675

On 11/18/21 10:51 AM, Bobbie Sellers wrote:
> On 11/17/21 21:52, 166p1 wrote:
>> https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-10209349/Passwords-123456-password-popular.html 
>>
>>
>> Will we EVER learn? '123456' and 'password' are still among the
>> most popular passwords in the world – while many users continue
>> to use their own name, report reveals
>>
>> The annual NordPass Most Common Passwords report revealed common
>> trends.  It found that people are still using very simple and easy
>> to guess passwords including '123456', 'password' and 'qwerty'
>> which can be cracked in a second. There were local and gender
>> differences including sports teams as passwords.
> 
>      Well this password choice needs to be a relegated to a password
> generator which Prints the Password on the screen with instruction to
> all applicants and tell them to write it down, reenter it to be sure
> that they have it and then all sign on again for access.  It will
> have to be a uniform requirement across all platforms,  Then the
> usual security questions in case a notebook is lost.

   Check online about how to tweak PAM so it will
   accept a period as a password. There are probably
   handy scripts. Laziness always finds a way to win.

   And corporations - make it too much of a pain and
   everybody does business elsewhere. I've even just
   about had it with Amazon - but I do keep track of
   who THEY buy from ... and sometimes the price is
   even better if you buy direct.

   You want 'convenience' the way an anti-vaxxer wants
   to pretend Covid is a hoax - or that some gimmick
   pill will save them (there MAY be a couple NOW,
   but there are also serious concerns about genetic
   damage because of the way they work).

   Face it, if giant corporations, federal agencies,
   major utilities and even your local hospital can
   be hacked - YOU can be hacked. Can be a simple
   as a fake login page for your bank to keyloggers
   to man (person?)-in-the-middle action. And when
   you made those passwords, did you put them into
   a word-processing doc on your box ??? Mine are
   ON PAPER, you remember paper, right ?


>      Just my humble User's opinion.
> 
>      bliss -bliss - brought to you by the power and ease of PCLinuxOS 
>             and a minor case of hypergraphia
> 
>>
>> . . . .
>>
>> SysAdmin ??? Well THIS is what you're up against - and
>> it's NOT going to change.
>>
>> Users would rather live with unknown risks than suffer
>> with passwords and other procedures that are impossible
>> to remember or a pain to cope with. They WILL find a
>> way around difficult edicts - or they'll quit and take
>> all their job experience with them.
>>
>> But, when it goes bad, the SysAdmins get the blame.
>>
>> Look, cybercommerce/cyberbanking SOUNDED great. But
>> people are NOT going to cope with "dffNs%h##fj3d7xuz"
>> passwords plus text-messages on smartphones they may
>> not even own plus biometrics that won't recognize
>> you if you grew a beard or cut your thumb or dropped
>> 20 pounds plus inscruitable captchas. And WHY don't
>> you know the name of your maiden aunts 3rd cousin's
>> favorite pet gerbil ???!!!
>>
>> Nobody is going to put up with such shit.
>>
>> Sorry, but "convenient" was one of the main drives
>> behind online commerce/banking. Now they feel they
>> have to make it as INconvenient as possible just to
>> stay half a step ahead of cyberCRIME. This is NOT
>> working out.
>>
>> I'll tell you the solution ... and you won't like it ...
>> physically go TO your bank and do business with bits
>> of PAPER in front of people there who KNOW your face.
>> SHOP online, but print the order form, fill it out
>> in ink, and physically MAIL it to the seller. Might
>> not hurt to include a PAPER *CHECK* inside to cover
>> the purchase - again something tangible, something
>> they'll at least have to scan. Use a Sharpie pen
>> to write the check too - something that can't be
>> washed out.
>>
>> Oh, and you can go to physical STORES ... they have
>> all kinds of interesting things on big rows of
>> shelves ... and there's a thing called "cash" you
>> can use to buy those fascinating items.
>>
>> This 1950-ish approach WILL thwart crime. Because
>> of human nature, NOTHING will thwart it using
>> todays methods. 'Convenient' for you ? PARADISE
>> for the cybercriminals and cyberterrorists.
>>
>> This is the horrible bitter Truth, and you KNOW it.
>>
>> SysAdmin ? Contract ? Slip "NOT responsible for events
>> resulting from users employing poor passwords/technique"
>> in there. If they won't accept that - QUIT - you'll be
>> saving yourself endless trouble. Put them on the blacklist
>> at all the job-search sites.
> 
> 

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#33667

On Thu, 18 Nov 2021 00:52:03 -0500, 166p1 <z24ba6.net> wrote:
>
> https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-10209349/Passwords-123456-password-popular.html
>
> Will we EVER learn? '123456' and 'password' are still among the
> most popular passwords in the world – while many users continue
> to use their own name, report reveals

"They" wont ever learn. My bet is that 123456 is still people's favorite
password in 2030.
-- 
Andreas

https://news-commentaries.blogspot.com/

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#33669

On 18/11/2021 17:03, Andreas Kohlbach wrote:
> On Thu, 18 Nov 2021 00:52:03 -0500, 166p1 <z24ba6.net> wrote:
>>
>> https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-10209349/Passwords-123456-password-popular.html
>>
>> Will we EVER learn? '123456' and 'password' are still among the
>> most popular passwords in the world – while many users continue
>> to use their own name, report reveals
> 
> "They" wont ever learn. My bet is that 123456 is still people's favorite
> password in 2030.
> 
You think people will still be able to count in 2030?


-- 
Truth welcomes investigation because truth knows investigation will lead 
to converts. It is deception that uses all the other techniques.

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