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What Thinks Thou Of LO Donate Banner?

Started byFarley Flud <fflud@gnu.rocks>
First post2025-09-13 12:57 +0000
Last post2025-09-14 13:18 +0000
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  What Thinks Thou Of LO Donate Banner? Farley Flud <fflud@gnu.rocks> - 2025-09-13 12:57 +0000
    Re: What Thinks Thou Of LO Donate Banner? Farley Flud <fflud@gnu.rocks> - 2025-09-13 13:23 +0000
    Re: What Thinks Thou Of LO Donate Banner? Jacek Marcin Jaworski <jaworski1978@adres.pl> - 2025-09-13 15:28 +0200
      Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-09-13 22:00 +0000
        Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner? not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2025-09-14 08:26 +1000
          Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-09-13 23:04 +0000
          Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-14 09:01 +0100
            Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-09-14 21:17 +0000
            Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-15 02:13 +0200
              Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner? Tyrone <none@none.none> - 2025-09-15 00:50 +0000
                Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-15 12:38 +0200
              Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner? Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-09-15 09:52 +0200
                Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-09-15 08:19 +0000
                  Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner? Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-09-15 10:49 +0200
                    Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-09-15 09:03 +0000
                      Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner? Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-09-15 12:04 +0200
                        Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-09-15 22:29 +0000
                          Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner? Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-09-16 08:23 +0200
                            Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner? Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-16 08:53 +0100
                              Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-16 12:54 +0200
                                Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner? Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-16 20:07 +0100
                                  Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-16 21:42 +0200
                                    Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner? Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-16 22:12 +0100
                                    Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner? Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-09-17 06:52 +0200
                                      E-mail server-side attachment deduplication (was: Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner?) Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-17 12:02 +0100
                                Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner? Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-09-17 06:52 +0200
                Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-15 12:44 +0200
                  Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-09-15 22:35 +0000
                    Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-16 02:09 +0200
                      Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-09-16 01:12 +0000
                        Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner? 🇵🇱Jacek Marcin Jaworski🇵🇱 <jaworski1978@adres.pl> - 2025-09-16 05:47 +0200
                          Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-09-16 05:48 +0000
                        Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-16 12:57 +0200
                          Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-09-17 05:56 +0000
                            Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-17 11:15 +0200
                              Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-09-17 09:31 +0000
              Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-15 10:01 +0100
                Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner? Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-09-15 12:06 +0200
                  Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-15 13:13 +0200
              Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner? Gremlin <nobody@haph.org> - 2025-11-11 23:38 +0000
                Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-12 02:59 +0100
                  Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-12 03:23 +0000
                    Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-14 14:18 +0100
                      Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-14 19:43 +0000
                        Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-14 22:20 +0100
                  Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner? Gremlin <nobody@haph.org> - 2025-11-12 05:11 +0000
                    Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner? Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-11-12 06:29 +0000
                      Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner? Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-12 06:46 +0000
                        Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner? Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-11-12 14:14 +0000
                        Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner? Gremlin <nobody@haph.org> - 2025-11-13 02:06 +0000
                          Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner? Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-11-13 02:14 +0000
                            Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner? Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-13 11:01 +0000
                              Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner? Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-11-13 13:39 +0000
                    Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-14 14:20 +0100
                      Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner? Gremlin <nobody@haph.org> - 2025-11-15 20:50 +0000
                        Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-15 22:08 +0100
                          Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner? Gremlin <nobody@haph.org> - 2025-11-16 05:40 +0000
                            Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner? Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-16 11:05 +0000
                              Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-17 01:33 +0100
                              Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner? Gremlin <nobody@haph.org> - 2025-11-20 22:23 +0000
                                Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner? John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-11-20 14:59 -0800
                                  Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-11-20 23:54 +0000
                                    Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner? Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-11-21 00:44 +0000
                                    Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner? John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-11-21 14:33 -0800
                                      Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-11-22 00:16 +0000
                                        Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-11-22 00:20 +0000
                                          Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-22 03:20 +0000
                                            Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner? pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> - 2025-11-22 14:17 +0000
                                              Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner? Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-22 14:39 +0000
                                                Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-22 20:08 +0000
                                                  Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner? tom nossen <news@nossen.org> - 2025-11-26 22:07 +0100
                                                    Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-11-26 21:50 +0000
                                                      Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner? tom nossen <news@nossen.org> - 2025-11-27 12:18 +0100
                                                        Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-11-27 21:26 +0000
                                              Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-11-22 18:56 +0000
                                        Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner? John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-11-24 09:06 -0800
                                          Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner? "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-11-24 12:10 -0500
                                            Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner? John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-11-24 09:29 -0800
                                          Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-11-24 23:15 +0000
                                            Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner? John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-11-24 15:35 -0800
                                            Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-25 00:21 +0000
                                  Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner? Gremlin <nobody@haph.org> - 2025-11-23 03:19 +0000
                                    Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-11-23 05:20 +0000
                                    Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner? John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-11-24 09:26 -0800
                                      Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner? Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-11-24 18:27 +0000
                                      Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-11-24 23:23 +0000
                                      Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner? Gremlin <nobody@haph.org> - 2025-12-02 20:13 +0000
                                        Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner? John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-12-03 08:39 -0800
                                          Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-03 19:42 +0100
                                          Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner? Gremlin <nobody@haph.org> - 2025-12-03 22:03 +0000
                                            Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner? Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-12-03 22:36 +0000
                                              Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner? Gremlin <nobody@haph.org> - 2025-12-04 03:05 +0000
                                                Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner? Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-12-04 14:24 +0000
                                                  Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-04 14:35 +0000
                                                    Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner? John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-12-04 08:21 -0800
                                                      Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-04 18:05 +0000
                                                        Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner? John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-12-04 10:09 -0800
                                                          Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-04 19:09 +0000
                                                            Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner? John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-12-04 11:11 -0800
                                                              Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-04 19:55 +0000
                                                        Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-12-19 01:22 +0000
                                                          Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner? CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-12-18 20:45 -0500
                                                            Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-19 10:54 +0000
                                                              Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner? CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-12-19 09:11 -0500
                                                                Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-19 15:02 +0000
                                                                  Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner? CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-12-19 10:38 -0500
                                                                    Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner? "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-12-19 11:03 -0500
                                                                    Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-19 18:14 +0000
                                                                  Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner? John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-12-19 08:09 -0800
                                                            Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-19 21:56 +0100
                                                              Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-20 05:56 +0000
                                                                Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-20 10:52 +0000
                                                                  Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-20 15:03 +0100
                                                                    Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-20 14:50 +0000
                                                                    Ozempic (and Mounjaro, Zepbound, etc) Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> - 2025-12-20 15:04 +0000
                                                                      Re: Ozempic (and Mounjaro, Zepbound, etc) chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2025-12-20 17:21 -0600
                                                                  Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-12-20 20:45 +0000
                                                                    Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner? Sump <sumpusent@outlook.com> - 2025-12-20 22:02 +0000
                                                                      Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-21 01:56 +0000
                                                                        Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner? Sump <sumpusent@outlook.com> - 2025-12-21 02:10 +0000
                                                                          Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-21 02:13 +0000
                                                                    Re: Big Pharma (was Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner?) Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-12-21 02:09 +0000
                                                                      Re: Big Pharma (was Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner?) Sump <sumpusent@outlook.com> - 2025-12-21 02:38 +0000
                                                                      Re: Big Pharma (was Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner?) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-21 05:00 +0000
                                                                        Re: Big Pharma (was Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner?) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-21 10:57 +0000
                                                                    Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-21 04:47 +0000
                                                                  Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-21 04:43 +0000
                                                                Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-20 15:01 +0100
                                                                  Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-20 14:47 +0000
                                                                    Re: Marxist Healthcare( was Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner?) Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-12-21 02:11 +0000
                                                                      Re: Marxist Healthcare( was Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner?) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-21 04:34 +0000
                                                                      Re: Marxist Healthcare( was Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner?) Bob Tennent <rdtennent@tennent.ca> - 2025-12-22 02:17 +0000
                                                                        Re: Marxist Healthcare( was Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner?) Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-12-22 04:43 +0000
                                                                          Re: Marxist Healthcare( was Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner?) Bob Tennent <rdtennent@tennent.ca> - 2025-12-22 15:53 +0000
                                                                        Re: Marxist Healthcare( was Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner?) c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-22 01:54 -0500
                                                                          Re: Marxist Healthcare( was Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner?) Bob Tennent <rdtennent@tennent.ca> - 2025-12-22 15:57 +0000
                                                                            Re: Marxist Healthcare( was Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner?) Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-12-22 08:49 -0800
                                                                              Re: Marxist Healthcare( was Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner?) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-22 19:16 +0000
                                                                                Re: Marxist Healthcare (was Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner?) Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-12-22 21:24 +0000
                                                                              Re: Marxist Healthcare( was Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner?) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-22 19:47 +0000
                                                                              Re: Marxist Healthcare Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-23 11:02 +0000
                                                                                Re: Marxist Healthcare Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-12-23 11:38 -0800
                                                                                  Re: Marxist Healthcare The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-23 20:23 +0000
                                                                                    Re: Marxist Healthcare Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-23 22:41 +0000
                                                                                      Re: Marxist Healthcare The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-24 12:23 +0000
                                                                                Re: Marxist Healthcare rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-23 23:42 +0000
                                                              Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner? CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-12-20 08:33 -0500
                                                                Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-21 04:40 +0000
                                                                  Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner? CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-12-21 19:59 -0500
                                                                  Ozempic... "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-26 22:24 +0100
                                                      Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner? Gremlin <nobody@haph.org> - 2025-12-04 22:47 +0000
                                                        Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner? Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-12-05 00:15 +0000
                                                    Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner? Gremlin <nobody@haph.org> - 2025-12-04 22:48 +0000
                                                      Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner? Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-12-05 00:14 +0000
                                                  Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner? Gremlin <nobody@haph.org> - 2025-12-04 22:47 +0000
                                                    Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner? Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-12-05 00:16 +0000
                                            Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner? John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-12-03 14:41 -0800
                                              Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner? Gremlin <nobody@haph.org> - 2025-12-04 03:05 +0000
                                            Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner? vallor <vallor@vallor.earth> - 2025-12-07 04:01 +0000
                                              Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner? Gremlin <nobody@haph.org> - 2025-12-08 02:32 +0000
                                                Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner? vallor <vallor@vallor.earth> - 2025-12-08 04:36 +0000
                                                  Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner? vallor <vallor@vallor.earth> - 2025-12-08 14:30 +0000
                                                    Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner? pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> - 2025-12-08 23:21 +0000
                                                      Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-09 10:01 +0000
                                                      Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner? Gremlin <nobody@haph.org> - 2025-12-10 01:37 +0000
                                                        Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner? pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> - 2025-12-10 18:13 +0000
                                                          Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner? Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-12-10 20:06 +0000
                                                          Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner? Gremlin <nobody@haph.org> - 2025-12-12 07:44 +0000
                                                            Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner? Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-12-12 22:39 +1100
                                                              Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-12 12:18 +0000
                                                    SYSCALL "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-10 14:01 +0100
                                                  Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner? Gremlin <nobody@haph.org> - 2025-12-10 01:37 +0000
                                Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-11-20 23:01 +0000
                                Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner? Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-21 09:58 +0000
                                  Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner? Gremlin <nobody@haph.org> - 2025-11-23 03:19 +0000
                                    Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-11-23 05:21 +0000
                                      Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner? Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-11-23 19:01 +0000
                                      Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner? Gremlin <nobody@haph.org> - 2025-11-23 23:23 +0000
                                        Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner? Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-23 23:41 +0000
                                        Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner? Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-11-24 00:39 +0000
                                          Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-23 23:46 -0500
                                            Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner? Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-11-24 15:45 +0000
                                              Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-24 20:59 +0100
                                              Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner? ALB <alb@lupinedb.org> - 2025-11-25 19:38 -0500
                                                Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-26 13:35 +0000
                                                  Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner? Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-11-26 15:12 +0000
                                                Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner? Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-11-26 15:10 +0000
                            Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-16 15:14 +0100
                        Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner? Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-11-16 02:56 +0000
                          Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner? Gremlin <nobody@haph.org> - 2025-11-16 05:40 +0000
                            Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-16 15:13 +0100
                              Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner? Gremlin <nobody@haph.org> - 2025-11-20 22:23 +0000
                                Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-21 13:05 +0100
                                  Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner? Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-11-21 15:35 +0000
                                    Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner? Gremlin <nobody@haph.org> - 2025-11-23 03:19 +0000
                                      Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner? Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-11-23 05:16 +0000
                                        Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner? Gremlin <nobody@haph.org> - 2025-11-23 23:23 +0000
                                          Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner? Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-11-24 00:33 +0000
                                  Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner? Gremlin <nobody@haph.org> - 2025-11-23 03:19 +0000
                                    Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-23 22:05 +0100
                                      Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner? Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-11-24 02:24 +0000
        Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-14 00:04 +0000
        Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner? 🇵🇱Jacek Marcin Jaworski🇵🇱 <jaworski1978@adres.pl> - 2025-09-14 06:34 +0200
          Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner? 🇵🇱Jacek Marcin Jaworski🇵🇱 <jaworski1978@adres.pl> - 2025-09-14 06:48 +0200
          Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-09-14 06:37 +0000
          Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner? chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2025-09-14 08:00 -0500
      Re: What Thinks Thou Of LO Donate Banner? Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> - 2025-09-13 22:24 +0000
        Re: What Thinks Thou Of LO Donate Banner? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-14 13:38 +0200
      Re: What Thinks Thou Of LO Donate Banner? Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-09-14 12:53 +0000
    Re: What Thinks Thou Of LO Donate Banner? "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-09-13 11:02 -0400
      Re: What Thinks Thou Of LO Donate Banner? vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-09-13 17:02 +0000
      Re: What Thinks Thou Of LO Donate Banner? Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-09-13 18:23 +0000
    Re: What Thinks Thou Of LO Donate Banner? Tyrone <none@none.none> - 2025-09-14 00:12 +0000
      Re: What Thinks Thou Of LO Donate Banner? Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> - 2025-09-14 08:45 +0000
        Re: What Thinks Thou Of LO Donate Banner? "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-09-14 05:01 -0400
          Re: What Thinks Thou Of LO Donate Banner? Farley Flud <fflud@gnu.rocks> - 2025-09-14 13:18 +0000

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#77866 — Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner?

FromBrock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com>
Date2025-11-24 02:24 +0000
SubjectRe: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner?
Message-ID<6923c1bf$4$24$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>
In reply to#77852
On Nov 23, 2025 at 2:05:39 PM MST, ""Carlos E.R."" wrote
<3i9cvlxj8v.ln2@Telcontar.valinor>:

> On 2025-11-23 04:19, Gremlin wrote:
>> "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid>
>> news:h416vlxgkl.ln2@Telcontar.valinor Fri, 21 Nov 2025 12:05:05 GMT in
>> comp.os.linux.advocacy, wrote:
>> 
>>> On 2025-11-20 23:23, Gremlin wrote:
>> 
>> [snip]
>> 
>>>> Hmm. You wrote an antivirus? Do you remember anything specific about
>>>> it?
>>> 
>>> At the time, it was trivial. Viri either replaced the boot sector (of
>>> floppies mostly) , or attached to the end of an exe, then changed the
>>> address of the start instruction). All my program did was read the boot
>>> sector at boot, and the boot files, and compare with backup copies, and
>>> do it fast. I don't remember if I coded "repair". Trivial stuff, but
>>> some people found it useful because it was faster code than a commercial
>>> one that did the same. I used turbopascal and a few asm instructions.
>> 
>> :) If it works, it works. Were the asm instructions for direct access to the
>> boot sector and possibly faster file i/o over turbopascals built in file i/o
>> functions?
> 
> No, just a memory compare of two buffers of equal size. Otherwise the
> compiler produced code that was slower than the commercial program I was
> trying to emulate. compare string? It was a single instruction, once the
> buffers were loaded and the expected registers were set. I don't have
> access to the code, it is in an old 8086 computer with no network. I
> should retrieve all the files one day for archival.

Gremlin missed the real bottleneck. He assumed the delay was just waiting for
the floppy disk, but on those old machines, "fancy" high-level code actually
bogged down the CPU. While a normal program clumsily checks one byte at a time
-- wasting effort on every step -- you used a hardware shortcut to verify the
whole block in one smooth motion. You can't make the disk to read faster, so
you made sure the computer didn't choke on the data once it arrived.


> 
>> 
>>> Someone from my rough pal group left the uni and created an antivirus
>>> company. He struck rich. Eventually sold his company or bought another,
>>> I don't remember. I am not the enterprising kind, so I continued my
>>> studies and got copies of antivirus instead.
>> 
>> Do you remember the name of the company he created?  I'm curious to learn if I
>> might have interacted with the software. It's completely fine if not.
> 
> No, sorry, long ago. A Spanish company, that's for sure. In the mid to
> late 80's.
> 
>> 
>>> Ok. I just come here for having nice chats, help others and be helped. I
>>> do not want fights.
>> 
>> I'm here for the same things and have no interest in fighting with you. If I
>> offended you previously, I do apologize.
> 
> Ok, same :-)

I hope he can stick to this. Sincerely.


-- 
It's impossible for someone who is at war with themselves to be at peace with you.

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#74079 — Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner?

Fromrbowman <bowman@montana.com>
Date2025-09-14 00:04 +0000
SubjectRe: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner?
Message-ID<mimf3jF1mtoU3@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#74063
On Sat, 13 Sep 2025 22:00:03 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:

> On Sat, 13 Sep 2025 15:28:40 +0200, Jacek Marcin Jaworski wrote:
> 
>> Individual programmers start free and open software movement, but now
>> it is pure controlled by huge corpos.
> 
> Once they contribute the code, they no longer “control” it.

theregister.com/2025/09/12/opensuse_to_drop_bcachefs_support

I haven't followed the bcachefs controversy but Leap 16 is dropping Yast 
and other software? Since Leap is downstream of SLES I've got to assume 
EQT AB is running the show.

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#74087 — Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner?

From🇵🇱Jacek Marcin Jaworski🇵🇱 <jaworski1978@adres.pl>
Date2025-09-14 06:34 +0200
SubjectRe: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner?
Message-ID<mimuutF3llvU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#74063
W dniu 14.09.2025 o 00:00, Lawrence D’Oliveiro pisze:
> On Sat, 13 Sep 2025 15:28:40 +0200, Jacek Marcin Jaworski wrote:
> 
>> Individual programmers start free and open software
>> movement, but now it is pure controlled by huge corpos.
> 
> Once they contribute the code, they no longer “control” it.

Remember about business rule older than our Universe: "Who pay, will 
also demand.", and: "Who pay, will also decide.".

For e.g.: What is the advantage to be Micro$lop customer when they sold 
piece of crap in the nice cover?

The same is true for huge corpos which decide free and open source way 
of coding. This is the reason why almost all free and open source 
programs break the great "zero conf" design rule (but note: all banking 
aps respect this rule). This is the reason why many free and open 
programs are monoliths and there is no way to extend via simple plugins 
(note: KDE Krusader). This is the reason why huge corpos hide plugin doc 
for rare modular programs they created (note: KDE Develop, Qt Creator, 
Visual Studio). This is the reason why they create monoliths programs 
with code unable to reuse in spite lack of the alternatives (note: KDE 
Okular and its unique PDF and ebook rendering engine embedded directly 
in to main program code, instead be set of reusable shared libraries. 
PDF and ebook rendering libs are largely needed for many business and 
private projects. KDE Ocular programmers effectively prohibits other 
free and open source programmers from make many great programs which 
should render PDF and ebook docs easily. This force me to code my own 
PDF rendering widget).

So your above comment is very stupid. And it seems you have no idea 
about good and bad software, and apparently you have no idea about the 
free and opens source pathology I mentioned above. The Linux activists 
from the West should do what I did in Poland: develop free ebook with 
good design and programming rules, like my free (as free beer) PDF:

<https://energokod.pl/monografie/Arch.%20Prog.%20Nieuprzywilejowanych.pdf>

and you should investigate how free and open source projects respect 
them, and you should raise public discussion about the pathology like 
above. After my investigation I know well, that current free and open 
soft suffer in many ways instead be "art of code" - currently it is 
coded exactly in opposite way, only slightly better than Micro$lop Winblows.

And tell me why Micro$lop donate in to free and open source world? I 
know: they want turn Linux in to Winblows like piece of crap. If Linux 
Foundation likes blood money form Micro$lop, some day they will be 
thinking in the same way, and they will be do the same as M$. LF should 
kick Micro$lop and every corpos associated with it, otherwise they and 
Linux will be lost quickly. In Polish we know that old rule well, and we 
have good proverbs:

"Kto z kim przystaje takim się staje." sense in English: "You will be 
the same as persons in your area.".

"Kto trafi między wrony musi krakać jak i one." sense in English: "If 
you are between crows then you must behave like that crows.".

-- 
Have a nice day!
Jacek Marcin Jaworski,          Pruszcz Gd., woj. Pomorskie, PL🇵🇱, EU🇪🇺;
tel.: +48-609-170-742, najlepiej w godz.:     5:00-5:55 lub 16:00-16:55;
<jaworski1978@adres.pl>,  gpg: EBFD1A464130993FBBC230FE221740E87CE10580;
Domowa s. WWW (WYSZUKIWARKI JĄ POMIJAJĄ!!!):     <https://energokod.pl>;
Mini Netykieta:               <https://energokod.pl/MiniNetykieta.html>;
Mailowa Samoobrona:               <https://emailselfdefense.fsf.org/pl>.

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#74088 — Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner?

From🇵🇱Jacek Marcin Jaworski🇵🇱 <jaworski1978@adres.pl>
Date2025-09-14 06:48 +0200
SubjectRe: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner?
Message-ID<mimvpfF3lm0U1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#74087
W dniu 14.09.2025 o 06:34, 🇵🇱Jacek Marcin Jaworski🇵🇱 pisze:
> So your above comment is very stupid. And it seems you have no idea 
> about good and bad software

, and apparently you have no idea about basic business rules.

-- 
Jacek Marcin Jaworski,          Pruszcz Gd., woj. Pomorskie, PL🇵🇱, EU🇪🇺;
tel.: +48-609-170-742, najlepiej w godz.:     5:00-5:55 lub 16:00-16:55;
<jaworski1978@adres.pl>,  gpg: EBFD1A464130993FBBC230FE221740E87CE10580;
Domowa s. WWW (WYSZUKIWARKI JĄ POMIJAJĄ!!!):     <https://energokod.pl>;
Mini Netykieta:               <https://energokod.pl/MiniNetykieta.html>;
Mailowa Samoobrona:               <https://emailselfdefense.fsf.org/pl>.

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#74090 — Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner?

FromLawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid>
Date2025-09-14 06:37 +0000
SubjectRe: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner?
Message-ID<10a5nr9$1255u$3@dont-email.me>
In reply to#74087
On Sun, 14 Sep 2025 06:34:37 +0200, 🇵🇱Jacek Marcin Jaworski🇵🇱 wrote:

> The same is true for huge corpos which decide free and open source way
> of coding. This is the reason why almost all free and open source
> programs break the great "zero conf" design rule ...

What is this “great "zero conf" design rule”?

> This is the reason why many free and open programs are monoliths and
> there is no way to extend via simple plugins (note: KDE Krusader).

It’s a KDE app. It has inherent expandability via the KDE framework and 
“KParts”, just for example. From the home page <https://krusader.org/>:

    It supports a wide variety of archive formats and can handle other
    KIO slaves such as smb or fish. It is (almost) completely
    customizable, very user friendly, fast and looks great on your
    desktop!

> So your above comment is very stupid.

I would say you are just ignorant. If you remain ignorant after being 
informed, then the ignorance becomes wilful ... and then you become 
stupid.

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#74122 — Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner?

Fromchrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid>
Date2025-09-14 08:00 -0500
SubjectRe: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner?
Message-ID<0tedckpasa6cnvqann3s20s78tl36381m4@4ax.com>
In reply to#74087
??Jacek Marcin Jaworski?? wrote:

> Lawrence D’Oliveiro pisze:
>> Jacek Marcin Jaworski wrote:
>> 
>>> Individual programmers start free and open software
>>> movement, but now it is pure controlled by huge corpos.
>> 
>> Once they contribute the code, they no longer “control” it.
>
> (verbose claptrap, snipped)
>
>So your above comment is very stupid. 

No, you're very stupid.

> (further idiocy deleted, mostly unread)

-- 
"Translation - 75% of the Linux kernel is now effectively controlled
by corporate America." -  trolling fsckwit "Ezekiel"

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#74070

FromFarley Flud <ff@linux.rocks>
Date2025-09-13 22:24 +0000
Message-ID<pan$cc53$c771e907$890e4af2$6444fd96@linux.rocks>
In reply to#74031
On Sat, 13 Sep 2025 15:28:40 +0200, Jacek Marcin Jaworski wrote:

> 
> You are saying like somebody watching World from the sky! Look at the 
> statistics Linux Kernel v6.1:
> 

The kernel does not print a banner message at every boot asking for
donations.

LibreOffice is, by default, placing such a message, in the manner
of Micro$hit Winblows, into the face of every user at startup.

Users already know that they can contribute to the projects of their
choice.  There is no need to panhandle or beg.  If FOSS software intends
to rely only on user donations then they should get out.

Fortunately, as I have shown, this outrageous behavior can be disabled.

At my own expense, I contribute to FOSS and I NEVER expect any compensation
of any kind.


-- 
Gentoo: the only road to GNU/Linux perfection.

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#74114

From"Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid>
Date2025-09-14 13:38 +0200
Message-ID<73miplxami.ln2@Telcontar.valinor>
In reply to#74070
On 2025-09-14 00:24, Farley Flud wrote:
> On Sat, 13 Sep 2025 15:28:40 +0200, Jacek Marcin Jaworski wrote:
> 
>>
>> You are saying like somebody watching World from the sky! Look at the
>> statistics Linux Kernel v6.1:
>>
> 
> The kernel does not print a banner message at every boot asking for
> donations.

They do not need to, they get ample donations and funding.


Information courtesy of chatgpt:


💡 1. Donations via the Linux Foundation

The Linux Foundation is the primary steward of the Linux kernel and 
related open source infrastructure. It is a nonprofit organization that:

   * Hosts the Linux Kernel Project
   * Employs some kernel maintainers and developers
   * Manages financial and organizational support

The Linux Foundation accepts corporate and individual donations, but 
most of its funding comes from corporate memberships, not small-scale 
donations.

Examples of corporate members:

   * Google
   * Intel
   * IBM (via Red Hat)
   * Microsoft
   * Meta
   * AMD
   * Oracle

These companies donate millions of dollars annually through membership 
fees because they depend heavily on Linux.

👉 You can also donate individually here:
🔗 https://www.linuxfoundation.org/about/donate


💡 2. Direct Sponsorship of Kernel Developers

Many top Linux kernel developers are employed full-time by major tech 
companies to work on the kernel. For example:

   * Greg Kroah-Hartman (stable kernel maintainer) — formerly with SUSE, 
now at the Linux Foundation

   * Linus Torvalds — directly employed by the Linux Foundation

So in a sense, the Linux kernel project is "donated to" by companies 
paying these developers' salaries.


💡 3. Other Funding Models

There are also:

   * Bug bounty programs (like from Google or others offering rewards 
for kernel vulnerabilities)

   * Grants or academic support for kernel-related research

   * Some developers also use GitHub Sponsors, Patreon, or similar 
platforms to receive direct financial support



> LibreOffice is, by default, placing such a message, in the manner
> of Micro$hit Winblows, into the face of every user at startup.
> 
> Users already know that they can contribute to the projects of their
> choice.  There is no need to panhandle or beg.  If FOSS software intends
> to rely only on user donations then they should get out.
> 
> Fortunately, as I have shown, this outrageous behavior can be disabled.
> 
> At my own expense, I contribute to FOSS and I NEVER expect any compensation
> of any kind.

I do not see any banner. If I open lowrite or localc I see nothing but 
the program. If I open the launcher then I see a button at the bottom 
left that says "donate". Small and polite. I am tempted to donate, as a 
matter of fact.

-- 
Cheers, Carlos.
ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;

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#74120

FromStéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr>
Date2025-09-14 12:53 +0000
Message-ID<68c6bae3$0$402$426a74cc@news.free.fr>
In reply to#74031
Le 13-09-2025, Jacek Marcin Jaworski <jaworski1978@adres.pl> a écrit :
> W dniu 13.09.2025 o 14:57, Farley Flud pisze:
>> I started LibreOffice (LO) today and I was greeted with a banner
>> at the top of the main window that was essentially begging
>> for a donation ($$$$).
>> 
>> What the fuck is this crap?
>> 
>> I am so sorry, but FOSS is an AMATEUR movement and depends
>> only upon the "love" of programming for the community.
>
> You are saying like somebody watching World from the sky!

In fact some claim his writing from his mom basement, I'm pretty sure
he's writing from an asylum. In any case, he's living in the past: there
is no doubt about that.

> Individual programmers start free and open software 
> movement, 

Yes.

> but now it is pure controlled by huge corpos.

It's a little bit more complicated than that. The huge corpos chose
which part of the code they contribute. They don't stop others for
contributing other part of the code. Which is understandable. You want
to play games? Good for you, but they don't. So they won't contribute to
parts of the code that help you play game. If your needs are the same as
the big corpos needs, so everything will be OK for you. If you have
different needs, then you have to take care of them by yourself.

The big corpos don't control the software, they control which parts of
the software they chose to contribute. And a good thing about the Linux
Foundation is that, unlike the WHO, the big corpos are limited in the
amount of money they can send. So, there is no risk that someone like
Bill GATES or Donald TRUMP menace to stop funding them if they don't do
as requested. Well they can menace, but it won't be that much an impact
to be like an order to comply or to die.

-- 
Si vous avez du temps à perdre :
https://scarpet42.gitlab.io

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#74035

From"Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com>
Date2025-09-13 11:02 -0400
Message-ID<%HfxQ.3131$1gR1.252@fx12.iad>
In reply to#74027
On 9/13/2025 8:57 AM, Farley Flud wrote:

> I started LibreOffice (LO) today and I was greeted with a banner
> at the top of the main window that was essentially begging
> for a donation ($$$$).
> 
> What the fuck is this crap?
> 
> I am so sorry, but FOSS is an AMATEUR movement and depends
> only upon the "love" of programming for the community.  If
> a project has to beg for donations then that says a lot about
> its true motivations.
> 
> I contribute to FOSS both through programming and other means
> and I NEVER expect any compensation, monetary or otherwise.
> 
> I truly appreciate LO but I also do not NEED LO.  If this
> donation bullshit continues I just may move to alternatives.


Cheapskate.

-- 
Joel W. Crump

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#74040

Fromvallor <vallor@cultnix.org>
Date2025-09-13 17:02 +0000
Message-ID<milmdiFrg6uU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#74035
On Sat, 13 Sep 2025 11:02:18 -0400, "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com>
wrote in <%HfxQ.3131$1gR1.252@fx12.iad>:

> On 9/13/2025 8:57 AM, Farley Flud wrote:
> 
>> I started LibreOffice (LO) today and I was greeted with a banner at the
>> top of the main window that was essentially begging for a donation
>> ($$$$).
>> 
>> What the fuck is this crap?
>> 
>> I am so sorry, but FOSS is an AMATEUR movement and depends only upon
>> the "love" of programming for the community.  If a project has to beg
>> for donations then that says a lot about its true motivations.
>> 
>> I contribute to FOSS both through programming and other means and I
>> NEVER expect any compensation, monetary or otherwise.
>> 
>> I truly appreciate LO but I also do not NEED LO.  If this donation
>> bullshit continues I just may move to alternatives.
> 
> 
> Cheapskate.

Yeah, he's a freeloader.

-- 
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   OS: Linux 6.16.7 D: Mint 22.2 DE: Xfce 4.18 
   NVIDIA: 580.82.09 Mem: 258G
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#74047

FromStéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr>
Date2025-09-13 18:23 +0000
Message-ID<68c5b6a3$0$3365$426a74cc@news.free.fr>
In reply to#74035
[En-tête "Followup-To:" positionné à comp.os.linux.advocacy.]
> On 9/13/2025 8:57 AM, Farley Flud wrote:
>> I started LibreOffice (LO) today and I was greeted with a banner
>> at the top of the main window that was essentially begging
>> for a donation ($$$$).
>> 
>> What the fuck is this crap?
>> 
>> I am so sorry, but FOSS is an AMATEUR movement and depends
>> only upon the "love" of programming for the community.  If
>> a project has to beg for donations then that says a lot about
>> its true motivations.
>> 
>> I contribute to FOSS both through programming and other means
>> and I NEVER expect any compensation, monetary or otherwise.
>> 
>> I truly appreciate LO but I also do not NEED LO.  If this
>> donation bullshit continues I just may move to alternatives.

Another great message proving, once again if that was still needed, that
you are as far as modern programming as what can be expected.

First, as you said previously: you have no right to complain. But that's
not the point.

The point is: a program as well spread as LibreOffice doesn't consist
only a bout programming. For a start, you have to host it. And as
millions of people will download it on a regular base, nobody can host
it at home. It was possible decades ago, not anymore. So, now, people
are using things you despise because you can't understand their purpose:
Virtual Machines available in data centers.

And hosting it is expensive. So why an amateur who accept to contribute
for free should pay for you to be able to access it? Why shouldn't you
contribute to the costs of what you are using? Are you only a parasite?

Well, for my last question, I have already my answer: it was a
rhetorical question.

-- 
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#74081

FromTyrone <none@none.none>
Date2025-09-14 00:12 +0000
Message-ID<HNGcnb8l97XqlVv1nZ2dnZfqnPqdnZ2d@supernews.com>
In reply to#74027
On Sep 13, 2025 at 8:57:24 AM EDT, "Farley Flud" <fflud@gnu.rocks> wrote:

> I started LibreOffice (LO) today and I was greeted with a banner
> at the top of the main window that was essentially begging
> for a donation ($$$$).
> 
> What the fuck is this crap?

Surprisingly, it turns out that programmers like to eat.

> I am so sorry, but FOSS is an AMATEUR movement and depends
> only upon the "love" of programming for the community.  If
> a project has to beg for donations then that says a lot about
> its true motivations.

Yeah, that works fine when you are young, stupid and living in your parents'
house. Once you grow up, idealism goes out the window and reality sets in. So
working for free no longer seems like such a cool idea. 

> I contribute to FOSS both through programming and other means
> and I NEVER expect any compensation, monetary or otherwise.

Sure you do.  You couldn't write "Hello World" in interpreted BASIC.

> I truly appreciate LO but I also do not NEED LO.  If this
> donation bullshit continues I just may move to alternatives.

I'm sure everyone at LO is crushed to read that. 

> It reminds me of YouTube which once was a vibrant community
> for sharing video information but now it has degenerated
> into a click-baiting money grab where the majority of posted
> material is garbage.

Yeah man.  How DARE they charge for hosting every video ever made. 

You are such a babbling twit.  When ARE you going to grow up?

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#74102

FromFarley Flud <ff@linux.rocks>
Date2025-09-14 08:45 +0000
Message-ID<pan$2abe$18c6e7ad$78b3aa$69857499@linux.rocks>
In reply to#74081
On Sun, 14 Sep 2025 00:12:39 +0000, Tyrone wrote:

> 
> Surprisingly, it turns out that programmers like to eat.
> 
> 
> Yeah, that works fine when you are young, stupid and living in your parents'
> house. Once you grow up, idealism goes out the window and reality sets in. So
> working for free no longer seems like such a cool idea. 
> 

Non sequitur.


As has been said before:

If Tyrone likes it, then it is garbage.

If Tyrone doesn't like it, then it is very good.





-- 
Gentoo: the only road to GNU/Linux perfection.

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#74103

From"Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com>
Date2025-09-14 05:01 -0400
Message-ID<jvvxQ.5109$WSF.4219@fx01.iad>
In reply to#74102
On 9/14/2025 4:45 AM, Farley Flud wrote:
> On Sun, 14 Sep 2025 00:12:39 +0000, Tyrone wrote:
> 
>> Surprisingly, it turns out that programmers like to eat.
>>
>> Yeah, that works fine when you are young, stupid and living in your parents'
>> house. Once you grow up, idealism goes out the window and reality sets in. So
>> working for free no longer seems like such a cool idea.
> 
> Non sequitur.
> 
> 
> As has been said before:
> 
> If Tyrone likes it, then it is garbage.
> 
> If Tyrone doesn't like it, then it is very good.


You really are a dumbass.  LO gets monetary contributions, voluntarily, 
as do other FOSS apps.  Your obsessiveness isn't going to determine what 
they do, anymore than your idiocy preaching using Gentoo/LFS for a 
driver device is going to convince people.  It's not sensible.  It's not 
normal.  You can do whatever you want in your own house, with your 
computers, but some of us just want to enjoy using the damn device, 
without the fetishistic obsession you have.

-- 
Joel W. Crump

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#74124

FromFarley Flud <fflud@gnu.rocks>
Date2025-09-14 13:18 +0000
Message-ID<186528a269ecc5e4$14332$2482493$802601b3@news.usenetexpress.com>
In reply to#74103
On Sun, 14 Sep 2025 05:01:02 -0400, Joel W. Crump wrote:

> 
> ???
>

Hey!  How many times did you shit the bed this week?

Hey!  How many times?

What's the matter?  Did momma plug your ear holes with
beeswax to prevent you from hearing the siren's song?

Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha!

How many times did you shit the bed this week?

Hey!

How many times?

Answer, you filthy degenerate.


-- 
Gentoo/LFS: anything else is sacrilege.

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