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Oh Gawd - Now MX Linux "Security Verification" - NO !!! c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-16 03:47 -0400
Re: Oh Gawd - Now MX Linux "Security Verification" - NO !!! rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-16 18:54 +0000
Re: Oh Gawd - Now MX Linux "Security Verification" - NO !!! not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2026-08-17 08:46 +1000
Re: Oh Gawd - Now MX Linux "Security Verification" - NO !!! c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-16 23:46 -0400
Open web (was: Re: Oh Gawd - Now MX Linux "Security Verification" - NO !!!) Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-17 09:42 +0100
Re: Oh Gawd - Now MX Linux "Security Verification" - NO !!! c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-16 23:44 -0400
Re: Oh Gawd - Now MX Linux "Security Verification" - NO !!! rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-17 03:54 +0000
Re: Oh Gawd - Now MX Linux "Security Verification" - NO !!! c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-17 01:24 -0400
Linux 7.2 (was: Re: Oh Gawd - Now MX Linux "Security Verification" - NO !!!) vallor <vallor@vallor.earth> - 2026-08-17 08:59 +0000
Re: Linux 7.2 (was: Re: Oh Gawd - Now MX Linux "Security Verification" - NO !!!) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-17 17:39 +0000
Re: Linux 7.2 c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-17 22:26 -0400
Re: Linux 7.2 c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-17 22:21 -0400
Re: Linux 7.2 Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-18 08:30 +0100
Re: Linux 7.2 Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-08-18 13:51 +0000
Re: Linux 7.2 not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2026-08-19 08:16 +1000
Re: Linux 7.2 c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-18 22:57 -0400
Re: Oh Gawd - Now MX Linux "Security Verification" - NO !!! TJ <TJ@noneofyour.business> - 2026-08-17 10:30 -0400
Re: Oh Gawd - Now MX Linux "Security Verification" - NO !!! c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-17 22:25 -0400
Re: Oh Gawd - Now MX Linux "Security Verification" - NO !!! rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-18 03:05 +0000
Re: Oh Gawd - Now MX Linux "Security Verification" - NO !!! c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-18 00:58 -0400
Re: Oh Gawd - Now MX Linux "Security Verification" - NO !!! The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-18 10:21 +0100
Re: Oh Gawd - Now MX Linux "Security Verification" - NO !!! Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-08-18 13:55 +0000
Re: Oh Gawd - Now MX Linux "Security Verification" - NO !!! Robert Riches <spamtrap42@jacob21819.net> - 2026-08-18 21:24 +0000
Re: Oh Gawd - Now MX Linux "Security Verification" - NO !!! Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-08-18 13:53 +0000
Re: Oh Gawd - Now MX Linux "Security Verification" - NO !!! Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-08-18 16:30 +0000
Re: Oh Gawd - Now MX Linux "Security Verification" - NO !!! Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-08-18 23:02 +0000
Re: Oh Gawd - Now MX Linux "Security Verification" - NO !!! c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-18 23:02 -0400
Re: Oh Gawd - Now MX Linux "Security Verification" - NO !!! Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-17 09:38 +0100
Re: Oh Gawd - Now MX Linux "Security Verification" - NO !!! rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-17 17:14 +0000
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| From | c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> |
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| Date | 2026-08-16 03:47 -0400 |
| Subject | Oh Gawd - Now MX Linux "Security Verification" - NO !!! |
| Message-ID | <c6qdnZnITb1x9xz3nZ2dnZfqn_GdnZ2d@giganews.com> |
WHO told them to do this ??? No, I'm NOT gonna comply. If the Pixie Girl or equivs appear I *instantly* quit. Evil ! Downloaded the latest Fedora and Mint and Deb today, NO such totalitarian BS. AM downloading a 'fairly recent' MX ... but thru a 3rd party site. NASTY ! Can I trust it ??? Can't even GET to the MX site to register a complaint without the blocks. MX was my big fave - "perfect" - but NOW ... Guess I'll have to use vanilla Deb from now on.
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2026-08-16 18:54 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <neefbbFpk4lU13@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #89930 |
On Sun, 16 Aug 2026 03:47:41 -0400, c186282 wrote: > WHO told them to do this ??? > > No, I'm NOT gonna comply. > > If the Pixie Girl or equivs appear I *instantly* > quit. > > Evil ! So a 2 second CAPTCHA 3 a website uses to protect against malicious attacks ruins your entire day? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cloudflare#DDoS_mitigation I hate to tell you but I think your world is going to shrink. I didn't hit the verification with Brave on two different machines. I think that's because I'd been there before and they'd dropped a cookie. OMG cookies!
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| From | not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) |
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| Date | 2026-08-17 08:46 +1000 |
| Message-ID | <6a823db1@news.ausics.net> |
| In reply to | #89943 |
rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote: > I hate to tell you but I think your world is going to shrink. I didn't hit > the verification with Brave on two different machines. I think that's > because I'd been there before and they'd dropped a cookie. OMG cookies! There are a lot of things they check. One that had me puzzled for a long time was hardware graphics acceleration for WebGL 2 (etc.). The Javascript can somehow detect that you're using a software OpenGL render (eg. swrast in Mesa) instead of a GPU, and assumes it must be running on a server, instead of a personal computer with an old GPU or broken drivers. One major Australian website blocks me entirely on that basis - doesn't even give me a captcha to solve. No GPU = can't be human, apparantly. No more visits from this human anyway - what rot that I'd need to have GPU rendering working on computers where I'd never need that except to get in to those websites showing just text and static images. -- __ __ #_ < |\| |< _#
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| From | c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> |
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| Date | 2026-08-16 23:46 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <HqmcnevSxvIYGR_3nZ2dnZfqn_qdnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #89949 |
On 8/16/26 18:46, Computer Nerd Kev wrote: > rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote: >> I hate to tell you but I think your world is going to shrink. I didn't hit >> the verification with Brave on two different machines. I think that's >> because I'd been there before and they'd dropped a cookie. OMG cookies! > > There are a lot of things they check. One that had me puzzled for a > long time was hardware graphics acceleration for WebGL 2 (etc.). > The Javascript can somehow detect that you're using a software > OpenGL render (eg. swrast in Mesa) instead of a GPU, and assumes > it must be running on a server, instead of a personal computer > with an old GPU or broken drivers. One major Australian website > blocks me entirely on that basis - doesn't even give me a captcha > to solve. No GPU = can't be human, apparantly. No more visits from > this human anyway - what rot that I'd need to have GPU rendering > working on computers where I'd never need that except to get in to > those websites showing just text and static images. If I see this shit I *leave* in one second. NOT gonna put up with it. And, as said, you can't STEAL Linux because it's FREE - so, well, WTF ??? All I see is some trick trying to probe my box for who knows what.
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| From | Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-08-17 09:42 +0100 |
| Subject | Open web (was: Re: Oh Gawd - Now MX Linux "Security Verification" - NO !!!) |
| Message-ID | <115uhhb$r3ib$3@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #89949 |
On 2026-08-16, Computer Nerd Kev wrote: > rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote: >> I hate to tell you but I think your world is going to shrink. I didn't hit >> the verification with Brave on two different machines. I think that's >> because I'd been there before and they'd dropped a cookie. OMG cookies! > > There are a lot of things they check. One that had me puzzled for a > long time was hardware graphics acceleration for WebGL 2 (etc.). > The Javascript can somehow detect that you're using a software > OpenGL render (eg. swrast in Mesa) instead of a GPU, and assumes > it must be running on a server, instead of a personal computer > with an old GPU or broken drivers. One major Australian website > blocks me entirely on that basis - doesn't even give me a captcha > to solve. No GPU = can't be human, apparantly. No more visits from > this human anyway - what rot that I'd need to have GPU rendering > working on computers where I'd never need that except to get in to > those websites showing just text and static images. I think I've seen that in the wild too. I've had troubles with webgl before, possibly broken drivers or broken hardware, not sure which, and not wanting to get entangled in figuring that out, I disabled webgl. Then there's also the sites which just refuse to handle absence of webgl for whatever they're doing... -- Nuno Silva
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| From | c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> |
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| Date | 2026-08-16 23:44 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <HqmcnejSxvJsHh_3nZ2dnZfqn_qdnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #89943 |
On 8/16/26 14:54, rbowman wrote: > On Sun, 16 Aug 2026 03:47:41 -0400, c186282 wrote: > >> WHO told them to do this ??? >> >> No, I'm NOT gonna comply. >> >> If the Pixie Girl or equivs appear I *instantly* >> quit. >> >> Evil ! > > So a 2 second CAPTCHA 3 a website uses to protect against malicious > attacks ruins your entire day? Yep. Over and out. Oh, and nobody STEALS Linux - it's FREE.
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2026-08-17 03:54 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <nefev3Fpk4lU23@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #89951 |
On Sun, 16 Aug 2026 23:44:19 -0400, c186282 wrote: > On 8/16/26 14:54, rbowman wrote: >> On Sun, 16 Aug 2026 03:47:41 -0400, c186282 wrote: >> >>> WHO told them to do this ??? >>> >>> No, I'm NOT gonna comply. >>> >>> If the Pixie Girl or equivs appear I *instantly* >>> quit. >>> >>> Evil ! >> >> So a 2 second CAPTCHA 3 a website uses to protect against malicious >> attacks ruins your entire day? > > Yep. > > Over and out. > > Oh, and nobody STEALS Linux - it's FREE. Steal? Is that the extent of your idea of malicious? https://linux.slashdot.org/story/25/08/23/0513229/arch-linux-faces- ongoing-ddos-attack
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| From | c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> |
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| Date | 2026-08-17 01:24 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <HqmcnebSxvL7Bh_3nZ2dnZfqn_qdnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #89953 |
On 8/16/26 23:54, rbowman wrote: > On Sun, 16 Aug 2026 23:44:19 -0400, c186282 wrote: > >> On 8/16/26 14:54, rbowman wrote: >>> On Sun, 16 Aug 2026 03:47:41 -0400, c186282 wrote: >>> >>>> WHO told them to do this ??? >>>> >>>> No, I'm NOT gonna comply. >>>> >>>> If the Pixie Girl or equivs appear I *instantly* >>>> quit. >>>> >>>> Evil ! >>> >>> So a 2 second CAPTCHA 3 a website uses to protect against malicious >>> attacks ruins your entire day? >> >> Yep. >> >> Over and out. >> >> Oh, and nobody STEALS Linux - it's FREE. > > Steal? Is that the extent of your idea of malicious? For the REAL WORLD ... kinda YES. Are you assuming some kind of 'download apocalypse' thing - a sophisticated distributed 'DOS' attack ??? MIGHT - but mostly WON'T - happen. The low/no profit aspects of Linux just make it UNINTERESTING to most Bad Guys. Note there are also many alternative sites where you can get the SAME systems, never using the Main Page. Being 'free', anyone can copy the latest distros to THEIR sites. For cyberterrorists, this is just a lose/lose situation. Why waste time ? Now M$/Apple - VERY concentrated sweet stuff. IS worth attacking from many directions and WILL have far-reaching impacts. > https://linux.slashdot.org/story/25/08/23/0513229/arch-linux-faces- > ongoing-ddos-attack "Ongoing" - but "effective/useful/relevant" ??? Anyway, sorry, but if I see the Elf girl or her clones then I'm OUT of there. Dunno WHAT THE FUCK their 'validation' scripts are doing. Probably REALLY bad. NO ! Hey, I'll go back to DOS 3.x shit rather than put up with this shit.
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| From | vallor <vallor@vallor.earth> |
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| Date | 2026-08-17 08:59 +0000 |
| Subject | Linux 7.2 (was: Re: Oh Gawd - Now MX Linux "Security Verification" - NO !!!) |
| Message-ID | <115uihs$qnpl$3@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #89953 |
At 17 Aug 2026 03:54:12 GMT, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote: > On Sun, 16 Aug 2026 23:44:19 -0400, c186282 wrote: > > > On 8/16/26 14:54, rbowman wrote: > >> On Sun, 16 Aug 2026 03:47:41 -0400, c186282 wrote: > >> > >>> WHO told them to do this ??? > >>> > >>> No, I'm NOT gonna comply. > >>> > >>> If the Pixie Girl or equivs appear I *instantly* > >>> quit. > >>> > >>> Evil ! > >> > >> So a 2 second CAPTCHA 3 a website uses to protect against malicious > >> attacks ruins your entire day? > > > > Yep. > > > > Over and out. > > > > Oh, and nobody STEALS Linux - it's FREE. > > Steal? Is that the extent of your idea of malicious? > > https://linux.slashdot.org/story/25/08/23/0513229/arch-linux-faces- > ongoing-ddos-attack kernel.org uses the pixie lady if you dig into git -- can't download rc kernel sources without seeing her happy smile. Some people will be put off by anything -- even stop signs. (BTW, Linux 7.2 is released. Building it now...) -- -v System76 Thelio Mega v1.1 x86_64 Mem: 258G OS: Linux 7.2.0-rc7 D: Mint 22.3 DE: Xfce 4.18 (X11) NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090Ti (24G) (610.57.04) "I hate laundry month."
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2026-08-17 17:39 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: Linux 7.2 (was: Re: Oh Gawd - Now MX Linux "Security Verification" - NO !!!) |
| Message-ID | <negvakFpk4lU31@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #89963 |
On Mon, 17 Aug 2026 08:59:40 +0000, vallor wrote: > kernel.org uses the pixie lady if you dig into git -- can't download rc > kernel sources without seeing her happy smile. > > Some people will be put off by anything -- even stop signs. I like the pixie better than CloudFlares. I forget the site but I hit one yesterday where you had to press the button for seconds as well as one where you had to select all the bicycles. I haven't seen one with the distorted text in a while. I always had a problem with those damn things. > > (BTW, Linux 7.2 is released. Building it now...) Praise be, Fedora hasn't added it yet. Maybe I'll get more than 2 days uptime. Thankfully Fedora 45 isn't planning to include Plasma 6.8 initially. iirc it was 40 where the paint wasn't quite dry on KDE, Qt, and Plasma.
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| From | c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> |
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| Date | 2026-08-17 22:26 -0400 |
| Subject | Re: Linux 7.2 |
| Message-ID | <h8CcnQ9Yr9jRXh73nZ2dnZfqn_adnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #89975 |
On 8/17/26 13:39, rbowman wrote: > On Mon, 17 Aug 2026 08:59:40 +0000, vallor wrote: > >> kernel.org uses the pixie lady if you dig into git -- can't download rc >> kernel sources without seeing her happy smile. >> >> Some people will be put off by anything -- even stop signs. > > I like the pixie better than CloudFlares. I forget the site but I hit one > yesterday where you had to press the button for seconds as well as one > where you had to select all the bicycles. I haven't seen one with the > distorted text in a while. I always had a problem with those damn things. BSD, here I come. If I wanted bullshit I'd buy Winders.
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| From | c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> |
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| Date | 2026-08-17 22:21 -0400 |
| Subject | Re: Linux 7.2 |
| Message-ID | <h8CcnRJYr9i9Xx73nZ2dnZfqn_adnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #89963 |
On 8/17/26 04:59, vallor wrote:
> At 17 Aug 2026 03:54:12 GMT, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 16 Aug 2026 23:44:19 -0400, c186282 wrote:
>>
>>> On 8/16/26 14:54, rbowman wrote:
>>>> On Sun, 16 Aug 2026 03:47:41 -0400, c186282 wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> WHO told them to do this ???
>>>>>
>>>>> No, I'm NOT gonna comply.
>>>>>
>>>>> If the Pixie Girl or equivs appear I *instantly*
>>>>> quit.
>>>>>
>>>>> Evil !
>>>>
>>>> So a 2 second CAPTCHA 3 a website uses to protect against malicious
>>>> attacks ruins your entire day?
>>>
>>> Yep.
>>>
>>> Over and out.
>>>
>>> Oh, and nobody STEALS Linux - it's FREE.
>>
>> Steal? Is that the extent of your idea of malicious?
>>
>> https://linux.slashdot.org/story/25/08/23/0513229/arch-linux-faces-
>> ongoing-ddos-attack
>
> kernel.org uses the pixie lady if you dig into git -- can't
> download rc kernel sources without seeing her happy smile.
>
> Some people will be put off by anything -- even stop signs.
>
> (BTW, Linux 7.2 is released. Building it now...)
Well ... I guess that's just IT for Linux. So sad !
Time to concentrate more on the BSDs ("Ghost" is pretty nice).
I've only glanced at OpenIndiana/Solaris but it seems to
have possibilities.
Sorry, but I'm not gonna have who-the-fuck spy on my PC
every time I want a Linux distro/update. These days that
is just an unacceptable security worry.
And, as said, you can't STEAL Linux - so there's no POINT
in the pixie girl at all.
My existing Linux will probably be good for maybe another
year ... after that the lack of security tweaks will
become unacceptable.
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| From | Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-08-18 08:30 +0100 |
| Subject | Re: Linux 7.2 |
| Message-ID | <wwvecfv51iz.fsf@LkoBDZeT.terraraq.uk> |
| In reply to | #90009 |
c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> writes:
> On 8/17/26 04:59, vallor wrote:
>> kernel.org uses the pixie lady if you dig into git -- can't
>> download rc kernel sources without seeing her happy smile.
>> Some people will be put off by anything -- even stop signs.
>> (BTW, Linux 7.2 is released. Building it now...)
>
> Well ... I guess that's just IT for Linux. So sad !
>
> Time to concentrate more on the BSDs ("Ghost" is pretty nice).
>
> I've only glanced at OpenIndiana/Solaris but it seems to
> have possibilities.
>
> Sorry, but I'm not gonna have who-the-fuck spy on my PC every time I
> want a Linux distro/update. These days that is just an unacceptable
> security worry.
Anubis is not spying on you.
> And, as said, you can't STEAL Linux - so there's no POINT in the
> pixie girl at all.
It’s nothing to do with anyone “stealing Linux”.
--
https://www.greenend.org.uk/rjk/
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| From | Rich <rich@example.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-08-18 13:51 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: Linux 7.2 |
| Message-ID | <1161o0e$1rflc$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #90009 |
c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> wrote: > And, as said, you can't STEAL Linux - so there's no POINT > in the pixie girl at all. The pixie girl is there to *try* to halt the onslaught of the AI companies that do abjectly stupid things like download every version of linux on kernel.org from 0.0.1 through to 7.2 278 times a day, every day, times 75 AI companies to feed to their AI models. I setup a really simple markov chain text generator as an AI honey pot on a server I admin and linked it to one, hidden (display: none; in the css) link on the page footer, with a robots.txt saying "don't access this link". Turned it on last Sept 8 (2025). As of just now when I checked, it has fed 7,160,636 nonsense "pages" into AI company's systems. 344 operating days. 20,815 accesses per day average. For a web page that, if it is lucky, gets a low hundreds of accesses a day (and most of those from search indexers). That's why the pixie girl is there on kernel.org. You can like or dislike it, but the "burn" from the AI companies irresponsible accesses is the underlying cause.
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| From | not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) |
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| Date | 2026-08-19 08:16 +1000 |
| Subject | Re: Linux 7.2 |
| Message-ID | <6a84d9a3@news.ausics.net> |
| In reply to | #90062 |
Rich <rich@example.invalid> wrote: > The pixie girl is there to *try* to halt the onslaught of the AI > companies that do abjectly stupid things like download every version of > linux on kernel.org from 0.0.1 through to 7.2 278 times a day, every > day, times 75 AI companies to feed to their AI models. > > I setup a really simple markov chain text generator as an AI honey pot > on a server I admin and linked it to one, hidden (display: none; in the > css) link on the page footer, with a robots.txt saying "don't access > this link". You don't need to try hard to trap one of these crawlers like that. Just enable PHPSESSID on a PHP website and every time it gets a new session variable it will think it's found a whole new website, while remembering to still go back and re-crawl the site with all the old PHPSESSIDs it's ever received. "AmazonBot" is still trying old PHPSESSID URLs on one site many months after I disabled generating them. It's more than a little ironic that the "AI revolution" seems to have born a whole new level of idiocy in web crawling. We'll just have to keep waiting until their money runs out I suppose... > That's why the pixie girl is there on kernel.org. You can like or > dislike it, but the "burn" from the AI companies irresponsible accesses > is the underlying cause. But how much "burn" for real users of such websites is acceptable? They could password-protect the whole site and send out passwords to just the people who they think matter, telling everyone else to bugger off. Somewhere between that and trying to optimise/upgrade their website to handle the new AI load without adding any new access restrictions is the "pixie girl" solution which just tells people like me using obscure web browsers to bugger off. I still won't be OK with effectively being told to bugger off, especially by an organisation with as much money as The Linux Foundation (though browsing their Git repos is still working for me in Dillo). -- __ __ #_ < |\| |< _#
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| From | c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> |
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| Date | 2026-08-18 22:57 -0400 |
| Subject | Re: Linux 7.2 |
| Message-ID | <_46cnQUXs58Qhhj3nZ2dnZfqn_QAAAAA@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #90079 |
On 8/18/26 18:16, Computer Nerd Kev wrote: > Rich <rich@example.invalid> wrote: >> The pixie girl is there to *try* to halt the onslaught of the AI >> companies that do abjectly stupid things like download every version of >> linux on kernel.org from 0.0.1 through to 7.2 278 times a day, every >> day, times 75 AI companies to feed to their AI models. >> >> I setup a really simple markov chain text generator as an AI honey pot >> on a server I admin and linked it to one, hidden (display: none; in the >> css) link on the page footer, with a robots.txt saying "don't access >> this link". > > You don't need to try hard to trap one of these crawlers like that. > Just enable PHPSESSID on a PHP website and every time it gets a new > session variable it will think it's found a whole new website, > while remembering to still go back and re-crawl the site with all > the old PHPSESSIDs it's ever received. "AmazonBot" is still trying > old PHPSESSID URLs on one site many months after I disabled > generating them. > > It's more than a little ironic that the "AI revolution" seems to > have born a whole new level of idiocy in web crawling. We'll just > have to keep waiting until their money runs out I suppose... > >> That's why the pixie girl is there on kernel.org. You can like or >> dislike it, but the "burn" from the AI companies irresponsible accesses >> is the underlying cause. > > But how much "burn" for real users of such websites is acceptable? > They could password-protect the whole site and send out passwords > to just the people who they think matter, telling everyone else to > bugger off. Somewhere between that and trying to optimise/upgrade > their website to handle the new AI load without adding any new > access restrictions is the "pixie girl" solution which just tells > people like me using obscure web browsers to bugger off. I still > won't be OK with effectively being told to bugger off, especially > by an organisation with as much money as The Linux Foundation > (though browsing their Git repos is still working for me in Dillo). Sounds more like LAWYERS, rather than creaky tech fixes, is what's needed. Multiple orgs can hire a firm specializing in tech abuse.
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| From | TJ <TJ@noneofyour.business> |
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| Date | 2026-08-17 10:30 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <115v5u9$128on$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #89951 |
On 2026-08-16 23:44, c186282 wrote: > On 8/16/26 14:54, rbowman wrote: >> On Sun, 16 Aug 2026 03:47:41 -0400, c186282 wrote: >> >>> WHO told them to do this ??? >>> >>> No, I'm NOT gonna comply. >>> >>> If the Pixie Girl or equivs appear I *instantly* >>> quit. >>> >>> Evil ! >> >> So a 2 second CAPTCHA 3 a website uses to protect against malicious >> attacks ruins your entire day? > > Yep. > > Over and out. > > Oh, and nobody STEALS Linux - it's FREE. > Don't bother with Mageia's Bugzilla, then. Before we added mitigation, there were times when it was completely unusable, due to bots overloading our servers. They still manage to sneak in every once in a while, somehow. So with or without mitigation, you would not be happy with us. TJ
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| From | c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> |
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| Date | 2026-08-17 22:25 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <h8CcnQxYr9iUXh73nZ2dnZfqn_adnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #89967 |
On 8/17/26 10:30, TJ wrote: > On 2026-08-16 23:44, c186282 wrote: >> On 8/16/26 14:54, rbowman wrote: >>> On Sun, 16 Aug 2026 03:47:41 -0400, c186282 wrote: >>> >>>> WHO told them to do this ??? >>>> >>>> No, I'm NOT gonna comply. >>>> >>>> If the Pixie Girl or equivs appear I *instantly* >>>> quit. >>>> >>>> Evil ! >>> >>> So a 2 second CAPTCHA 3 a website uses to protect against malicious >>> attacks ruins your entire day? >> >> Yep. >> >> Over and out. >> >> Oh, and nobody STEALS Linux - it's FREE. >> > Don't bother with Mageia's Bugzilla, then. Before we added mitigation, > there were times when it was completely unusable, due to bots > overloading our servers. They still manage to sneak in every once in a > while, somehow. > > So with or without mitigation, you would not be happy with us. > > TJ OK ... I'll ignore Mageia BugZilla. Actually, given the current environ, heading into the BSD universe. If I want bullshit I'd buy Winders .....
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2026-08-18 03:05 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <nei0fvFpk4lU42@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #90011 |
On Mon, 17 Aug 2026 22:25:46 -0400, c186282 wrote: > Actually, given the current environ, heading into the BSD universe. > If I want bullshit I'd buy Winders ..... That will be a short trip. Every Linux distro you've touched pissed you off for one reason or the other. There aren't that many BSD flavors.
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| From | c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> |
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| Date | 2026-08-18 00:58 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <mZadnRghR5_2ex73nZ2dnZfqn_SdnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #90019 |
On 8/17/26 23:05, rbowman wrote: > On Mon, 17 Aug 2026 22:25:46 -0400, c186282 wrote: > >> Actually, given the current environ, heading into the BSD universe. >> If I want bullshit I'd buy Winders ..... > > That will be a short trip. Every Linux distro you've touched pissed you > off for one reason or the other. There aren't that many BSD flavors. "Ghost" is pretty damned nice. Just downloaded the latest one. Have a spare mini-box just waiting for a new distro ....... Also got the very latest Deb and Antix and ... well, the most useful/interesting ... over the past few days. No Pixie Girl or equiv then I'll download. That should keep me good for maybe a year. A couple years ago I glanced at OpenIndiana/Solaris. It didn't seem so bad - but was 'different' enough that I didn't wanna bother. Now .... Anyway, yes, too much BULLSHIT and I will dump Linux. Sad, but ya gotta do what ya gotta do.
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