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| Started by | Anssi Saari <anssi.saari@usenet.mail.kapsi.fi> |
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| First post | 2025-10-07 16:07 +0300 |
| Last post | 2025-10-12 12:10 +0100 |
| Articles | 20 on this page of 454 — 21 participants |
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Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Anssi Saari <anssi.saari@usenet.mail.kapsi.fi> - 2025-10-07 16:07 +0300
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-07 14:39 +0100
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-07 22:52 +0000
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-08 01:35 -0400
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-08 10:53 +0200
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-08 21:06 +0000
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-09 21:25 +0200
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-09 21:45 +0000
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-09 21:41 -0400
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-10 09:21 +0200
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-10 13:21 +0000
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-10 21:15 +0200
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-10 21:53 +0000
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-11 02:46 -0400
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-11 02:38 -0400
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-09 02:09 -0400
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-10-09 18:52 +0000
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-09 21:33 -0400
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-10-11 15:10 +0000
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-10-11 17:48 +0000
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-11 19:01 +0000
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-10-11 19:08 +0000
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-11 19:32 +0000
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-11 22:29 -0400
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-10-12 11:07 +0000
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-10-13 09:06 -0700
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-10-18 16:24 +0000
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-10-18 21:02 +0000
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-19 01:36 +0000
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-19 13:39 +0200
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-20 02:10 +0000
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-20 05:36 +0000
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-20 02:33 -0400
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-20 02:31 -0400
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-20 19:21 +0000
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-10-19 12:17 +0000
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-19 02:22 +0000
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-19 04:28 -0400
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-19 11:19 +0100
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-10-20 09:20 -0700
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-10-25 12:49 +0000
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-25 16:45 +0100
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-10-25 22:16 +0000
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-26 01:51 +0000
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-10-26 04:40 +0000
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-26 08:42 +0000
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-26 09:11 +0000
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-26 10:06 +0000
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-26 19:25 +0000
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-26 19:48 +0100
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-26 21:29 +0000
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-27 00:44 +0100
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-26 00:57 -0400
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-26 07:14 +0000
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-26 11:05 +0000
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-26 02:00 +0000
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-26 11:02 +0000
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-25 22:03 +0000
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-25 21:19 -0400
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-26 01:50 +0000
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-10-26 04:40 +0000
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-26 14:52 +0100
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-26 19:06 +0000
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-26 20:29 +0100
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-26 21:22 +0000
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-26 22:17 -0400
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-27 10:09 +0100
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-27 21:23 +0000
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-28 00:47 +0100
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-28 00:27 +0000
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-10-28 07:45 +0000
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-28 23:05 +0000
Accents. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-28 13:46 +0100
Re: Accents. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-28 18:47 +0000
Re: Accents. Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-10-28 20:21 +0000
Re: Accents. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-28 23:46 +0100
Re: Accents. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-29 01:41 +0000
Re: Accents. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-29 11:07 +0000
Re: Accents. Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-10-29 18:47 +0000
Re: Accents. Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-29 22:15 +0000
Re: Accents. Allodoxaphobia <trepidation@example.net> - 2025-10-30 17:29 +0000
Re: Accents. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-30 17:31 +0000
Re: Accents. Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-10-30 19:31 +0000
Re: Accents. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-30 20:14 +0000
Re: Accents. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-30 20:11 +0000
Re: Accents. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-30 20:10 +0000
Re: Accents. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-30 21:35 +0100
Re: Accents. candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2025-10-30 21:40 +0000
Re: Accents. Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-10-30 15:18 -0700
Re: Accents. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-31 03:17 +0000
Re: Accents. Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-10-30 21:46 -0700
Re: Accents. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-31 19:25 +0000
LED lights "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-01 14:38 +0100
Re: LED lights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-01 20:50 -0400
Re: LED lights The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-02 11:14 +0000
Re: LED lights "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-02 15:41 +0100
Re: LED lights rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-02 19:57 +0000
Re: LED lights Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-11-03 00:12 +0000
Re: LED lights "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-03 02:38 +0100
Re: LED lights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-03 00:19 -0500
Re: LED lights Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-11-03 07:03 +0000
Re: LED lights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-03 14:20 -0500
Re: LED lights The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-03 20:02 +0000
Re: LED lights rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-04 04:42 +0000
Re: LED lights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-04 02:31 -0500
Re: LED lights The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-03 10:16 +0000
Re: LED lights rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-02 01:51 +0000
Re: LED lights "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-02 15:48 +0100
Re: LED lights rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-02 19:42 +0000
Re: LED lights "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-02 21:33 +0100
Re: Accents. Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-10-30 22:21 +0000
Re: Accents. Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-31 04:59 +0000
Re: Accents. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-31 14:41 +0100
Re: Accents. John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-10-31 08:56 -0700
Re: Accents. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-31 19:53 +0000
Re: Accents. Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-10-31 19:02 -0700
Re: Accents. Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-11-01 02:52 +0000
Re: Accents. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-01 05:32 +0000
Re: Accents. Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-11-19 19:19 +0000
TV tropes (was: Re: Accents.) Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-20 11:01 +0000
Re: TV tropes "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-20 13:10 +0100
Re: TV tropes Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-11-20 17:57 +0000
Re: TV tropes "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-20 21:28 +0100
Re: TV tropes Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-11-21 02:10 +0000
Re: TV tropes "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-21 13:14 +0100
Re: TV tropes Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-11-21 02:09 +0000
Re: TV tropes rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-21 07:41 +0000
Re: TV tropes Pancho <Pancho.Jones@protonmail.com> - 2025-11-21 09:00 +0000
Re: TV tropes The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-21 09:13 +0000
Re: TV tropes "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-21 13:17 +0100
Re: TV tropes rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-21 19:28 +0000
Re: TV tropes "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-21 20:43 +0100
Re: TV tropes The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-21 23:00 +0000
Re: TV tropes rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-22 04:06 +0000
Blade runner "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-01 14:24 +0100
Re: Not Blade Runner Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-11-01 19:57 +0000
Blade runner "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-01 14:22 +0100
Re: Blade runner rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-02 01:22 +0000
Re: Blade runner "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-02 15:50 +0100
Re: Blade runner rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-02 19:20 +0000
Re: Blade runner "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-02 21:34 +0100
Re: Blade runner rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-03 02:47 +0000
Re: Blade runner "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-03 13:05 +0100
Re: Blade runner rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-03 20:04 +0000
Re: Blade runner c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-03 15:40 -0500
Flashlights "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-03 22:30 +0100
Re: Flashlights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-03 17:48 -0500
Re: Flashlights Ian <gay@sfuu.ca> - 2025-11-03 20:26 -0800
Re: Flashlights Robert Riches <spamtrap42@jacob21819.net> - 2025-11-04 04:55 +0000
Re: Flashlights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-04 02:35 -0500
Re: Flashlights Robert Riches <spamtrap42@jacob21819.net> - 2025-11-05 03:44 +0000
Re: Flashlights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-05 01:05 -0500
Re: Flashlights "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-05 13:20 +0100
Re: Flashlights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-05 22:08 -0500
Re: Flashlights rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-05 16:33 +0000
Re: Flashlights "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-05 20:37 +0100
Re: Flashlights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-05 22:26 -0500
Re: Flashlights "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-06 11:56 +0100
Re: Flashlights rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-06 18:42 +0000
Re: Flashlights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-06 17:30 -0500
Re: Flashlights candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2025-11-07 16:20 +0000
Re: Flashlights The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-07 18:11 +0000
Re: Flashlights rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-07 18:50 +0000
Re: Flashlights "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-07 22:42 +0100
Re: Flashlights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-07 21:08 -0500
Re: Flashlights "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-08 13:31 +0100
Re: Flashlights Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-11-08 16:05 +0000
Re: Flashlights rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-08 20:06 +0000
Re: Flashlights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-09 00:04 -0500
Re: Flashlights Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-11-09 20:08 +0000
Re: Flashlights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-10 00:41 -0500
Re: Flashlights The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-10 12:07 +0000
Re: Flashlights John-Paul Stewart <jpstewart@personalprojects.net> - 2025-11-09 19:05 -0500
Re: Flashlights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-10 00:58 -0500
Re: Flashlights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-05 22:12 -0500
Re: Flashlights rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-06 05:09 +0000
Re: Flashlights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-06 01:31 -0500
Re: Flashlights rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-06 18:39 +0000
Re: Flashlights rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-04 07:51 +0000
Re: Flashlights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-04 02:19 -0500
Re: Flashlights The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-04 09:55 +0000
Re: Flashlights Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-11-21 18:16 +0000
Re: Flashlights "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-21 20:39 +0100
Re: Flashlights The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-21 22:54 +0000
Re: Flashlights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-21 23:52 -0500
Re: Flashlights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-21 23:32 -0500
Re: Flashlights The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-22 06:49 +0000
Re: Flashlights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-22 03:14 -0500
Re: Flashlights The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-22 11:32 +0000
Re: Flashlights Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-11-22 22:00 +0000
Re: Flashlights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-23 02:35 -0500
Re: Flashlights The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-23 09:40 +0000
Re: Flashlights Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-11-23 20:15 +0000
Re: Flashlights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-23 22:10 -0500
Re: Flashlights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-23 01:42 -0500
Re: Flashlights "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-23 22:09 +0100
Re: Flashlights Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-11-24 02:17 +0000
Re: Flashlights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-23 22:19 -0500
Re: Flashlights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-23 21:58 -0500
Re: Flashlights "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-24 20:28 +0100
Re: Flashlights Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-11-24 15:04 -0800
Re: Flashlights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-24 22:48 -0500
Chemical photography "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-25 07:59 +0100
Re: Chemical photography c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-25 03:43 -0500
Re: Chemical photography "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-25 09:59 +0100
Re: Chemical photography Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-11-25 10:14 -0800
Re: Chemical photography "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-25 19:38 +0100
Re: Chemical photography Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-11-25 10:54 -0800
Re: Chemical photography rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-25 18:58 +0000
Re: Chemical photography Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-11-25 19:12 +0000
Re: Chemical photography "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-25 20:32 +0100
Re: Chemical photography The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-26 13:39 +0000
Re: Chemical photography rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-25 22:26 +0000
Re: Chemical photography "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-26 07:34 +0100
Re: Chemical photography c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-26 02:40 -0500
City fauna "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-26 11:18 +0100
Re: City fauna rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-26 20:40 +0000
Re: City fauna "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-27 12:39 +0100
Re: City fauna The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-27 11:56 +0000
Re: City fauna "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-27 13:16 +0100
Re: City fauna rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-27 19:58 +0000
Re: Chemical photography rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-26 20:15 +0000
Re: Chemical photography c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-26 22:39 -0500
Re: Chemical photography rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-27 18:55 +0000
Re: Chemical photography "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-27 20:20 +0100
Re: Chemical photography c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-26 23:40 -0500
Re: Chemical photography rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-27 19:03 +0000
Re: Chemical photography c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-27 22:36 -0500
Re: Chemical photography candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2025-12-01 21:50 +0000
Re: Chemical photography "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-25 20:31 +0100
Re: Chemical photography c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-25 22:00 -0500
Re: Chemical photography rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-26 05:08 +0000
Re: Chemical photography The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-26 13:40 +0000
Re: Chemical photography The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-26 13:37 +0000
Re: Chemical photography rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-26 21:02 +0000
Re: Chemical photography Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-11-26 13:29 -0800
Re: Chemical photography rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-27 01:57 +0000
Re: Chemical photography c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-26 23:13 -0500
Re: Chemical photography The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-27 11:47 +0000
Re: Chemical photography c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-27 22:09 -0500
Re: Chemical photography The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-27 11:45 +0000
Re: Chemical photography rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-27 19:37 +0000
Re: Chemical photography c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-27 23:47 -0500
Re: Chemical photography rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-28 06:20 +0000
Re: Chemical photography c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-28 01:38 -0500
Re: Chemical photography The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-28 07:20 +0000
Re: Chemical photography c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-28 02:58 -0500
Re: Chemical photography rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-28 09:12 +0000
Re: Chemical photography c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-28 05:20 -0500
Re: Chemical photography The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-28 11:28 +0000
Re: Chemical photography rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-28 20:32 +0000
Re: Chemical photography c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-28 23:19 -0500
Re: Chemical photography The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-29 11:45 +0000
Re: Chemical photography The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-29 11:41 +0000
Punt guns. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-29 14:03 +0100
Re: Punt guns. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-29 13:19 +0000
Re: Punt guns. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-29 14:43 +0100
Re: Punt guns. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-29 14:42 +0000
Re: Chemical photography c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-28 22:10 -0500
Punt guns "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-29 14:06 +0100
Re: Punt guns Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-11-29 08:58 -0800
Re: Punt guns c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-29 22:34 -0500
Re: Punt guns c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-30 01:05 -0500
Re: Chemical photography rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-29 19:19 +0000
Re: Chemical photography rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-28 20:25 +0000
Re: Chemical photography rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-28 08:58 +0000
Re: Chemical photography "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-28 20:14 +0100
Re: Chemical photography The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-28 19:20 +0000
Re: Chemical photography "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-28 21:04 +0100
Re: Chemical photography rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-29 01:55 +0000
Re: Chemical photography c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-28 23:39 -0500
Bears "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-29 14:07 +0100
Re: Bears c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-30 00:51 -0500
Re: Chemical photography rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-28 20:09 +0000
Re: Chemical photography c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-28 23:12 -0500
Repopulating bears, wolves... "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-29 14:10 +0100
Re: Repopulating bears, wolves... Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-11-29 08:53 -0800
Re: Repopulating bears, wolves... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-29 18:59 +0000
Re: Repopulating bears, wolves... c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-29 22:49 -0500
Re: Repopulating bears, wolves... c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-29 22:19 -0500
Re: Repopulating bears, wolves... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-30 03:57 +0000
Re: Repopulating bears, wolves... c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-29 23:01 -0500
Re: Repopulating bears, wolves... The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-30 10:33 +0000
Re: Repopulating bears, wolves... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-29 18:40 +0000
Re: Chemical photography rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-29 18:32 +0000
Re: Chemical photography c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-29 22:46 -0500
Re: Chemical photography c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-26 22:40 -0500
Re: Chemical photography The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-27 11:48 +0000
Re: Chemical photography rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-27 19:07 +0000
Re: Chemical photography The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-27 19:15 +0000
Re: Chemical photography "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-27 20:23 +0100
Re: Chemical photography The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-28 05:13 +0000
Re: Chemical photography c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-28 00:17 -0500
Re: Chemical photography The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-28 05:21 +0000
Re: Chemical photography c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-28 00:29 -0500
Re: Chemical photography The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-28 07:13 +0000
Re: Chemical photography rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-28 09:19 +0000
Re: Chemical photography c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-27 23:16 -0500
Re: Chemical photography c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-27 22:10 -0500
Re: Chemical photography The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-28 05:17 +0000
Re: Chemical photography c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-28 00:26 -0500
Re: Chemical photography The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-28 07:10 +0000
Re: Chemical photography rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-28 06:15 +0000
Re: Chemical photography The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-28 07:15 +0000
Re: Flashlights "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-04 11:28 +0100
Re: Flashlights The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-04 11:15 +0000
Re: Flashlights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-04 13:27 -0500
Re: Flashlights "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-04 19:37 +0100
Re: Flashlights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-04 21:12 -0500
Re: Flashlights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-04 13:22 -0500
Re: Flashlights Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-11-04 20:52 +0000
Re: Flashlights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-04 21:23 -0500
Re: Flashlights "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-05 13:23 +0100
Re: Flashlights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-05 22:10 -0500
Re: Flashlights "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-06 12:05 +0100
Re: Flashlights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-06 17:21 -0500
Re: Flashlights Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-11-05 07:21 +0000
Re: Flashlights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-05 03:54 -0500
Re: Flashlights Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-11-21 18:20 +0000
Re: Flashlights The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-04 09:52 +0000
Re: Flashlights Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-11-05 07:21 +0000
Re: Flashlights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-05 03:17 -0500
Re: Flashlights The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-05 11:54 +0000
Re: Flashlights rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-05 16:41 +0000
Re: Flashlights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-05 22:16 -0500
Re: Flashlights Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-11-05 22:22 +0000
Re: Flashlights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-05 22:41 -0500
Re: Flashlights "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-06 12:10 +0100
Re: Flashlights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-06 17:24 -0500
Re: Flashlights "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-07 02:44 +0100
Re: Flashlights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-05 21:53 -0500
Re: Flashlights "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-04 11:12 +0100
Re: Blade runner "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-03 23:14 +0100
Re: Accents. Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-11-19 19:01 +0000
Re: Accents. Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-31 23:19 +0000
Re: Accents. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-01 05:33 +0000
Blade runner. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-01 14:29 +0100
Re: Blade runner. Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-11-01 19:56 +0000
Re: Blade runner. c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-01 21:38 -0400
Re: Accents. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-01 14:31 +0100
Re: Accents. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-31 19:48 +0000
Re: Accents. Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-10-31 22:45 +0000
Re: Accents. Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-31 23:22 +0000
Re: Accents. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-30 21:33 +0100
Re: Accents. Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-30 22:20 +0000
Re: Accents. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-30 23:36 +0100
Re: Accents. Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-31 04:51 +0000
Re: Accents. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-31 14:48 +0100
Re: Accents. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-31 15:03 +0000
Re: Accents. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-31 20:15 +0000
Re: Accents. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-01 11:15 +0000
Re: Accents. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-02 00:39 +0000
Re: Accents. Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-31 23:26 +0000
Re: Accents. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-01 14:44 +0100
Re: Accents. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-01 14:05 +0000
Re: Accents. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-02 00:54 +0000
Re: Accents. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-02 11:15 +0000
Re: Accents. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-02 19:02 +0000
Re: Accents. Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-11-01 20:10 +0000
Re: Accents. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-02 00:49 +0000
Re: Accents. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-02 11:13 +0000
Re: Accents. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-02 18:48 +0000
Re: Accents. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-03 10:12 +0000
Re: Accents. Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-11-03 20:04 +0000
Re: Accents. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-04 04:28 +0000
Re: Accents. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-03 13:11 +0100
Re: Accents. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-03 12:26 +0000
Re: Accents. John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-11-03 09:17 -0800
Re: Accents. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-01 14:42 +0100
Re: Accents. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-31 20:01 +0000
Re: Accents. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-01 11:15 +0000
Re: Accents. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-02 00:33 +0000
Re: Accents. Don_from_AZ <djatechNOSPAM@comcast.net.invalid> - 2025-11-01 20:43 -0700
Re: Accents. Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-11-02 19:30 +0000
Re: Accents. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-03 02:21 +0000
Re: Accents. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-31 03:47 +0000
Re: Accents. Pancho <Pancho.Jones@protonmail.com> - 2025-10-30 22:48 +0000
Re: Accents. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-31 03:58 +0000
Re: Accents. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-31 08:25 +0000
Re: Accents. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-01 20:09 +0100
Re: Accents. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-31 03:29 +0000
Re: Accents. Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-10-30 21:50 -0700
Re: Accents. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-31 08:28 +0000
Re: Accents. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-31 19:29 +0000
Re: Accents. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-31 08:27 +0000
Re: Accents. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-31 19:41 +0000
Re: Accents. Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-10-31 22:45 +0000
Re: Accents. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-01 05:36 +0000
Re: Accents. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-01 20:11 +0100
Re: Accents. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-02 00:59 +0000
Re: Accents. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-28 18:54 +0000
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-28 09:34 +0000
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-10-26 13:53 +0000
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-10-26 15:40 +0100
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-26 19:11 +0000
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-11-02 14:03 +0000
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-26 22:20 -0400
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-27 08:29 +0000
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-11-02 14:11 +0000
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-02 14:15 +0000
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-03 02:37 +0100
OT -xRe: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-11-02 18:49 -0800
Re: OT -xRe: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-03 06:54 +0000
Re: OT -xRe: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-11-03 08:19 -0800
Re: OT -xRe: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-03 10:18 +0000
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-10-27 09:34 -0700
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-27 21:26 +0000
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-19 03:36 -0400
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-11 19:31 +0000
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-12 01:33 +0000
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-11 22:52 +0200
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-11 22:48 +0000
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-12 02:43 +0200
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-12 12:12 +0100
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-11 22:02 -0400
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-12 06:39 +0000
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-12 02:59 -0400
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-12 19:20 +0000
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2025-10-13 16:50 +0000
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-13 18:38 +0100
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-14 01:38 -0400
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-14 01:45 -0400
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-12 12:17 +0100
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-13 03:28 +0000
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-13 03:41 -0400
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-13 10:20 +0100
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-13 11:55 +0200
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-13 21:56 +0000
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-14 00:35 +0000
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-14 01:21 -0400
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-14 06:56 +0000
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-10-14 17:20 +0000
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-14 20:01 -0400
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-10-15 05:36 +0000
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-15 03:33 -0400
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-15 21:18 +0000
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-16 02:24 -0400
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-15 06:31 +0000
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-10-15 09:00 -0700
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-15 21:24 +0000
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-10-15 15:11 -0700
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-16 02:27 -0400
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-16 07:22 +0000
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-17 22:24 -0400
Lazarus [Was: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work?] "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-18 20:08 +0200
Re: Lazarus [Was: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work?] c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-19 04:15 -0400
Re: Lazarus [Was: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work?] "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-19 13:46 +0200
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-16 04:36 +0000
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-10-16 10:29 -0700
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-16 01:49 -0400
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-10-16 15:43 -0700
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2025-10-14 21:30 +0000
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-14 22:11 +0000
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-12 12:10 +0100
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| From | Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> |
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| Date | 2025-11-29 08:58 -0800 |
| Subject | Re: Punt guns |
| Message-ID | <10gf8ni$3hqd0$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #78060 |
On 11/29/25 05:06, Carlos E.R. wrote: > On 2025-11-29 04:10, c186282 wrote: >> On 11/28/25 06:28, The Natural Philosopher wrote: >>> On 28/11/2025 10:20, c186282 wrote: >>>> On 11/28/25 04:12, rbowman wrote: >>>>> On Fri, 28 Nov 2025 02:58:59 -0500, c186282 wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hmm ... they USED to make something called a "drilling" ... >>>>>> like a >>>>>> heavy rifle or shotgun with a small-caliber rifle barrel on top, >>>>>> usually .22 ... good for big stuff and for rabbits roasting on >>>>>> the >>>>>> campfire. We called it 40 years back a Bull barrel and it was a rifled barrel with a bolt action usually to provide a very accurate rifle. >>>>> >>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M30_Luftwaffe_Drilling >>>>> >>>>> Beats the hell out of the M6. Savage still makes a .22/.410 combo. >>>>> I don't >>>>> know if .410 has become more available with the .410/.45LC >>>>> revolvers. Like >>>>> 16 gauge it got scarce. My mother had a 16 ga. which was considered a >>>>> ladies shotgun in her day but now it's all 12 or 20. >>>> >>>> .410 is a bit, well, small ... never was sure >>>> what you'd use 'em for. >>>> >>> I have heard them called 'rook guns' - suitable for vermin really. >>> Rabbits, squirrels, rats, smaller bids - probably could take a pigeon >>> down. >> >> If you're CLOSE ... they just don't hold much shot. >> I think the buckshot loads are like four or five >> pellets in a row. Anyway, 'vermin gun' may be the >> best description. You might be able to shoot 45LC >> in some, but without rifling it's basically an >> olde-tyme musket. >> >>>> 20ga was more the "ladies gun". 16ga really >>>> wasn't bad, nearly a 12 but a bit less kick. >>>> >>>> These days alas, you'd be pressed to find 16ga >>>> on any shelf, it just kind of faded away. >>>> >>> I never saw one. 20s and 12s yes. >>> 20 is a useable weapon for most birds >> >> Precise shots sometimes use 20ga just to prove >> their skill. >> >>>> You CAN still buy 10ga ... but again you'd have >>>> to special-order the shells. >>>> >>> not much need for anything larger than 12 in the UK, If you are going >>> for deer you should be using a rifle >> >> Well, the 'punt gun' was invented in the UK as best >> I remember ... about 4ga. >> >> 10ga does have a place, esp in N.America, for longer- >> range fowl hunting - boosts out a LOT of shot. Kicks >> like a motherfucker though. Think there are still >> three or four name makers of the 10ga. Hmm, maybe >> that's the solution to polar bears ... a load of '0' >> buck or a huge-ass slug. >> >>> I believe there are a few punt guns around still though :-) >> >> Are those 'guns' ? More into 'small cannon' territory :-) >> >> A bit 'unsporting' too ... >> >> From pix I've seen, they weren't even meant to be held, >> had a sort of tang near the center point meant to be >> hooked around the rim of a boat. You fired them from >> a prone position. >> >> Shotgun bores are all basically the old musket bores >> from longer back. I think 28ga was .50 cal, 12ga was >> nominally the Brown Bess .75 cal. >> >> Wow ... forgot there was 28ga until just now ... maybe >> a bit more useful than .410 >> >> Try : >> https://www.sportsmans.com/shooting-gear-gun-supplies/shotguns/ >> shotguns/ beretta-a400-upland-xtra-grain-walnut-28-gauge-3in-semi- >> automatic- shotgun-28in/p/1777544 >> >> https://www.sportsmans.com/shooting-gear-gun-supplies/shotguns/cz-628- >> field-select-28-gauge-2-34in-blued-pump-shotgun-28in/p/1477236 >> >> https://www.sportsmans.com/shooting-gear-gun-supplies/shotguns/ >> mossberg- silver-reserve-satin-black-walnut-28-gauge-2-34in-over- >> under- shotgun-26in/p/1776160 > > > Sorry, you have been blocked > You are unable to access sportsmans.com > > > Why have I been blocked? > > This website is using a security service to protect itself from online > attacks. The action you just performed triggered the security solution. > There are several actions that could trigger this block including > submitting a certain word or phrase, a SQL command or malformed data. > > > What can I do to resolve this? > > You can email the site owner to let them know you were blocked. Please > include what you were doing when this page came up and the Cloudflare > Ray ID found at the bottom of this page. > >> >> Still alive, but not exactly sure WHY. >> Strangely I could echo that feeling. bliss
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| From | c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> |
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| Date | 2025-11-29 22:34 -0500 |
| Subject | Re: Punt guns |
| Message-ID | <DIGdncf95I_MJrb0nZ2dnZfqnPoAAAAA@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #78068 |
On 11/29/25 11:58, Bobbie Sellers wrote: > > > On 11/29/25 05:06, Carlos E.R. wrote: >> On 2025-11-29 04:10, c186282 wrote: >>> On 11/28/25 06:28, The Natural Philosopher wrote: >>>> On 28/11/2025 10:20, c186282 wrote: >>>>> On 11/28/25 04:12, rbowman wrote: >>>>>> On Fri, 28 Nov 2025 02:58:59 -0500, c186282 wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hmm ... they USED to make something called a "drilling" ... >>>>>>> like a >>>>>>> heavy rifle or shotgun with a small-caliber rifle barrel on top, >>>>>>> usually .22 ... good for big stuff and for rabbits roasting >>>>>>> on the >>>>>>> campfire. > > We called it 40 years back a Bull barrel and it was a rifled > barrel with > a bolt action usually to provide a very accurate rifle. > >>>>>> >>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M30_Luftwaffe_Drilling >>>>>> >>>>>> Beats the hell out of the M6. Savage still makes a .22/.410 combo. >>>>>> I don't >>>>>> know if .410 has become more available with the .410/.45LC >>>>>> revolvers. Like >>>>>> 16 gauge it got scarce. My mother had a 16 ga. which was considered a >>>>>> ladies shotgun in her day but now it's all 12 or 20. >>>>> >>>>> .410 is a bit, well, small ... never was sure >>>>> what you'd use 'em for. >>>>> >>>> I have heard them called 'rook guns' - suitable for vermin really. >>>> Rabbits, squirrels, rats, smaller bids - probably could take a >>>> pigeon down. >>> >>> If you're CLOSE ... they just don't hold much shot. >>> I think the buckshot loads are like four or five >>> pellets in a row. Anyway, 'vermin gun' may be the >>> best description. You might be able to shoot 45LC >>> in some, but without rifling it's basically an >>> olde-tyme musket. >>> >>>>> 20ga was more the "ladies gun". 16ga really >>>>> wasn't bad, nearly a 12 but a bit less kick. >>>>> >>>>> These days alas, you'd be pressed to find 16ga >>>>> on any shelf, it just kind of faded away. >>>>> >>>> I never saw one. 20s and 12s yes. >>>> 20 is a useable weapon for most birds >>> >>> Precise shots sometimes use 20ga just to prove >>> their skill. >>> >>>>> You CAN still buy 10ga ... but again you'd have >>>>> to special-order the shells. >>>>> >>>> not much need for anything larger than 12 in the UK, If you are >>>> going for deer you should be using a rifle >>> >>> Well, the 'punt gun' was invented in the UK as best >>> I remember ... about 4ga. >>> >>> 10ga does have a place, esp in N.America, for longer- >>> range fowl hunting - boosts out a LOT of shot. Kicks >>> like a motherfucker though. Think there are still >>> three or four name makers of the 10ga. Hmm, maybe >>> that's the solution to polar bears ... a load of '0' >>> buck or a huge-ass slug. >>> >>>> I believe there are a few punt guns around still though :-) >>> >>> Are those 'guns' ? More into 'small cannon' territory :-) >>> >>> A bit 'unsporting' too ... >>> >>> From pix I've seen, they weren't even meant to be held, >>> had a sort of tang near the center point meant to be >>> hooked around the rim of a boat. You fired them from >>> a prone position. >>> >>> Shotgun bores are all basically the old musket bores >>> from longer back. I think 28ga was .50 cal, 12ga was >>> nominally the Brown Bess .75 cal. >>> >>> Wow ... forgot there was 28ga until just now ... maybe >>> a bit more useful than .410 >>> >>> Try : >>> https://www.sportsmans.com/shooting-gear-gun-supplies/shotguns/ >>> shotguns/ beretta-a400-upland-xtra-grain-walnut-28-gauge-3in-semi- >>> automatic- shotgun-28in/p/1777544 >>> >>> https://www.sportsmans.com/shooting-gear-gun-supplies/shotguns/ >>> cz-628- field-select-28-gauge-2-34in-blued-pump-shotgun-28in/p/1477236 >>> >>> https://www.sportsmans.com/shooting-gear-gun-supplies/shotguns/ >>> mossberg- silver-reserve-satin-black-walnut-28-gauge-2-34in-over- >>> under- shotgun-26in/p/1776160 >> >> >> Sorry, you have been blocked >> You are unable to access sportsmans.com >> >> >> Why have I been blocked? News today was some Brit being ARRESTED and harassed by the authorities for MONTHS just because, on a USA vacation, someone took a picture of him skeet-shooting with an awful horrible GUN !!! Of course if he'd been Islam it'd all be OK ... could have been pointing a rocket-launcher ..... So yea, why should USA sites entertain Brits ? You're blocked FOR YOUR OWN GOOD !!! >> This website is using a security service to protect itself from online >> attacks. The action you just performed triggered the security >> solution. There are several actions that could trigger this block >> including submitting a certain word or phrase, a SQL command or >> malformed data. >> >> >> What can I do to resolve this? >> >> You can email the site owner to let them know you were blocked. Please >> include what you were doing when this page came up and the Cloudflare >> Ray ID found at the bottom of this page. >> >>> >>> Still alive, but not exactly sure WHY. >>> > Strangely I could echo that feeling. > bliss > >
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| From | c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> |
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| Date | 2025-11-30 01:05 -0500 |
| Subject | Re: Punt guns |
| Message-ID | <0BWdnQkOzMINQ7b0nZ2dnZfqnPudnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #78068 |
On 11/29/25 11:58, Bobbie Sellers wrote: > > > On 11/29/25 05:06, Carlos E.R. wrote: >> On 2025-11-29 04:10, c186282 wrote: >>> On 11/28/25 06:28, The Natural Philosopher wrote: >>>> On 28/11/2025 10:20, c186282 wrote: >>>>> On 11/28/25 04:12, rbowman wrote: >>>>>> On Fri, 28 Nov 2025 02:58:59 -0500, c186282 wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hmm ... they USED to make something called a "drilling" ... >>>>>>> like a >>>>>>> heavy rifle or shotgun with a small-caliber rifle barrel on top, >>>>>>> usually .22 ... good for big stuff and for rabbits roasting >>>>>>> on the >>>>>>> campfire. > > We called it 40 years back a Bull barrel and it was a rifled > barrel with > a bolt action usually to provide a very accurate rifle. Heavy-barrel rifles (and pistols) can be VERY accurate. Ruger used to sell a .22 auto with a serious bull barrel, like 10 or 12 inches and nearly an inch wide. Perfect accuracy even single-handed. Remember those for the Zombie Apocalypse :-) I remember a few old rifles that seemed to resemble the common single-shot shotguns of today. Lots of steel, but usually .22 or something close. One in .357 would be cool. Ah : https://www.gunsinternational.com/guns-for-sale-online/rifles/henry-rifles/henry-357-single-shot.cfm?gun_id=102352276 Pretty close. UK residents may be blocked FOR YOUR OWN SAFETY from YOUR OWN GOVERNMENT.
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2025-11-29 19:19 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: Chemical photography |
| Message-ID | <mp0vadF1s5gU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #78038 |
On Fri, 28 Nov 2025 22:10:47 -0500, c186282 wrote: > If you're CLOSE ... they just don't hold much shot. > I think the buckshot loads are like four or five pellets in a row. > Anyway, 'vermin gun' may be the best description. You might be able > to shoot 45LC in some, but without rifling it's basically an > olde-tyme musket. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smith_&_Wesson_Governor No thanks. Taurus came up with the idea and has several variations. https://www.americanrifleman.org/content/review-the-smith-wesson-governor/ Hearing protection is recommended.
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2025-11-28 20:25 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: Chemical photography |
| Message-ID | <moueq2Fj98hU2@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #78008 |
On Fri, 28 Nov 2025 05:20:05 -0500, c186282 wrote: > .410 is a bit, well, small ... never was sure what you'd use 'em for. They were sort of a kid's gun. My father figured a 12 gauge was more suitable. He had a side by side and my uncle had an over and under and they would debate the merits. I think I was 14 before I got my own, a Mossberg 12 gauge bolt action. https://www.guns.com/news/2013/08/21/mossberg-bolt-action-shotguns-odd- never-felt-so-good Part of the attraction was some upstate NY counties were shotgun only for deer hunting to limit collateral damage. Nimrods from NYC were notorious. People were known to paint 'horse' or 'cow' on their livestock to aid in species identification. The best solution was for the mighty hunter to stay in a nice warm ginmill while a local filled his tag and strapped the field dressed deer on the fender of the hunter's Cadillac for the triumphal journey beck to civilization. It was a win-win.
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2025-11-28 08:58 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: Chemical photography |
| Message-ID | <mot6hsFd065U1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #78003 |
On Fri, 28 Nov 2025 07:20:29 +0000, The Natural Philosopher wrote: > What's wrong with a 50 cal machine gun or a Bushmaster 25mm autocannon?. > Apart from picking up the pieces. The Ma Deuce weighs in at a svelte 84 pounds... Even a M60 is about 25 pounds. I guess a Barrett .50 would do.
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| From | "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-11-28 20:14 +0100 |
| Subject | Re: Chemical photography |
| Message-ID | <au8pvlxeur.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> |
| In reply to | #77996 |
On 2025-11-28 07:20, rbowman wrote: > On Thu, 27 Nov 2025 23:47:03 -0500, c186282 wrote: > >> Japan, bear attacks are up SO much that now they're sending ARMY >> units in to deal with them. The beasties are walking straight into >> buildings and proceeding to try and eat people. The mil can't seem to >> figure out that a 5.56 isn't the best bear weapon alas ... a 12ga >> with buckshot and/or slugs works much better. No, you don't need a >> .500 Nitro Express, no armored bears here. > > The biologists that mess around in grizzly territory favor 12 gauge pumps, > alternate slugs and 00 buckshot. I go with a .357 but that isn't optimal. Around here, you could go to prison for killing a bear. They are trying to repopulate the mountains. -- Cheers, Carlos. ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;
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| From | The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-11-28 19:20 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: Chemical photography |
| Message-ID | <10gcsm5$2mdio$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #78018 |
On 28/11/2025 19:14, Carlos E.R. wrote: > On 2025-11-28 07:20, rbowman wrote: >> On Thu, 27 Nov 2025 23:47:03 -0500, c186282 wrote: >> >>> Japan, bear attacks are up SO much that now they're sending ARMY >>> units in to deal with them. The beasties are walking straight into >>> buildings and proceeding to try and eat people. The mil can't >>> seem to >>> figure out that a 5.56 isn't the best bear weapon alas ... a 12ga >>> with buckshot and/or slugs works much better. No, you don't need a >>> .500 Nitro Express, no armored bears here. >> >> The biologists that mess around in grizzly territory favor 12 gauge >> pumps, >> alternate slugs and 00 buckshot. I go with a .357 but that isn't optimal. > > Around here, you could go to prison for killing a bear. They are trying > to repopulate the mountains. > Are you serious Carlos? That is fuckin crazy! -- Labour - a bunch of rich people convincing poor people to vote for rich people by telling poor people that "other" rich people are the reason they are poor. Peter Thompson
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| From | "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-11-28 21:04 +0100 |
| Subject | Re: Chemical photography |
| Message-ID | <5sbpvlxa6b.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> |
| In reply to | #78019 |
On 2025-11-28 20:20, The Natural Philosopher wrote: > On 28/11/2025 19:14, Carlos E.R. wrote: >> On 2025-11-28 07:20, rbowman wrote: >>> On Thu, 27 Nov 2025 23:47:03 -0500, c186282 wrote: >>> >>>> Japan, bear attacks are up SO much that now they're sending ARMY >>>> units in to deal with them. The beasties are walking straight into >>>> buildings and proceeding to try and eat people. The mil can't >>>> seem to >>>> figure out that a 5.56 isn't the best bear weapon alas ... a 12ga >>>> with buckshot and/or slugs works much better. No, you don't need a >>>> .500 Nitro Express, no armored bears here. >>> >>> The biologists that mess around in grizzly territory favor 12 gauge >>> pumps, >>> alternate slugs and 00 buckshot. I go with a .357 but that isn't >>> optimal. >> >> Around here, you could go to prison for killing a bear. They are >> trying to repopulate the mountains. >> > Are you serious Carlos? That is fuckin crazy! Absolutely true. Although the bears here are smaller. AI Overview Bear repopulation in Spain focuses on the brown bear, with a population that has shown growth in areas such as the Cantabrian Mountains (around 370 specimens) and the Pyrenees (almost 100 specimens in 2025). This increase is due to reintroduction and monitoring programs that include genetic and damage monitoring, consolidation of their range, and work on coexistence with humans. <https://www.aragon.es/documents/d/guest/situacion_oso_pardo_aragon-pdf#:~:text=%C3%81rea%20de%20Distribuci%C3%B3n%20En%202024%2C%20el%20%C3%A1rea,sur%2C%20consolidando%20su%20presencia%20en%20nuevos%20territorios.> <https://travesiapirenaica.com/piroslife-oso-pirineos/> <https://www.miteco.gob.es/es/prensa/ultimas-noticias/2025/marzo/sara-aagesen---en-menos-de-tres-decadas-las-poblaciones-de-oso-p.html#:~:text=En%20Espa%C3%B1a%2C%20la%20poblaci%C3%B3n%20cant%C3%A1brica,aut%C3%B3nomas%20en%20las%20que%20habita.> -- Cheers, Carlos. ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2025-11-29 01:55 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: Chemical photography |
| Message-ID | <mov24aFmnbjU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #78020 |
On Fri, 28 Nov 2025 21:04:53 +0100, Carlos E.R. wrote: > Absolutely true. Although the bears here are smaller. How small? The male black bears (Ursus americanus americanus) around here average around 100 kg. The grizzly males (Ursus arctos) are double that. Your oso pardo would get tagged as a griz here.
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| From | c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> |
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| Date | 2025-11-28 23:39 -0500 |
| Subject | Re: Chemical photography |
| Message-ID | <Ux2cnVl3W8aG5Lf0nZ2dnZfqnPadnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #78033 |
On 11/28/25 20:55, rbowman wrote: > On Fri, 28 Nov 2025 21:04:53 +0100, Carlos E.R. wrote: > >> Absolutely true. Although the bears here are smaller. > > How small? The male black bears (Ursus americanus americanus) around here > average around 100 kg. The grizzly males (Ursus arctos) are double that. > Your oso pardo would get tagged as a griz here. I've seen most all of them all close-up at one time or another. Even 'little' bears CAN do ya - though mostly they're kinda shy, mostly ... Western blacks get quite large. Browns even more. Griz may be a little bigger but it's the MEANER you've gotta worry about. Met a guy who 'survived' a griz attack ... he wasn't pretty to look at. Survival quiz : You run into a big unhappy bear on a trail. What do you shoot FIRST, esp if your weapon is a bit undersized ? :-) Had to DO that once long back ... passed the quiz .....
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| From | "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-11-29 14:07 +0100 |
| Subject | Bears |
| Message-ID | <np7rvlx29r.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> |
| In reply to | #78033 |
On 2025-11-29 02:55, rbowman wrote: > On Fri, 28 Nov 2025 21:04:53 +0100, Carlos E.R. wrote: > >> Absolutely true. Although the bears here are smaller. > > How small? The male black bears (Ursus americanus americanus) around here > average around 100 kg. The grizzly males (Ursus arctos) are double that. > Your oso pardo would get tagged as a griz here. The size of a pork, perhaps? I don't know for sure, I have never been near one. -- Cheers, Carlos. ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;
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| From | c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> |
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| Date | 2025-11-30 00:51 -0500 |
| Subject | Re: Bears |
| Message-ID | <0BWdnQ4OzMLhRrb0nZ2dnZfqnPudnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #78059 |
On 11/29/25 08:07, Carlos E.R. wrote: > On 2025-11-29 02:55, rbowman wrote: >> On Fri, 28 Nov 2025 21:04:53 +0100, Carlos E.R. wrote: >> >>> Absolutely true. Although the bears here are smaller. >> >> How small? The male black bears (Ursus americanus americanus) around here >> average around 100 kg. The grizzly males (Ursus arctos) are double that. >> Your oso pardo would get tagged as a griz here. > > The size of a pork, perhaps? I don't know for sure, I have never been > near one. Tower over you ... with big claws and teeth ....
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2025-11-28 20:09 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: Chemical photography |
| Message-ID | <moudrpFj98hU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #78018 |
On Fri, 28 Nov 2025 20:14:50 +0100, Carlos E.R. wrote: > On 2025-11-28 07:20, rbowman wrote: >> On Thu, 27 Nov 2025 23:47:03 -0500, c186282 wrote: >> >>> Japan, bear attacks are up SO much that now they're sending ARMY >>> units in to deal with them. The beasties are walking straight into >>> buildings and proceeding to try and eat people. The mil can't seem >>> to figure out that a 5.56 isn't the best bear weapon alas ... a >>> 12ga with buckshot and/or slugs works much better. No, you don't >>> need a .500 Nitro Express, no armored bears here. >> >> The biologists that mess around in grizzly territory favor 12 gauge >> pumps, >> alternate slugs and 00 buckshot. I go with a .357 but that isn't >> optimal. > > Around here, you could go to prison for killing a bear. They are trying > to repopulate the mountains. Grizzly bears are a protected species and if you kill one you'd better claim self defense. There are two seasons for black bears, one in the spring and one in the fall. There is also a two week archery season just prior to the fall general season. Hunters with a bear tag have to take a species identification test. Many trailheads also have posters explaining the differences between the two species. I've encountered quite a few black bears and they either run away, tree, or ignore me. I try not to stumble over grizzlies. I may have seen one but he was standing up facing me which makes identification difficult. His fur was light brown but that's not reliable since some black bears have a cinnamon colored coat. Grizzly propagation is very controversial. Personally I'd prefer they stay out of areas I frequent.
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| From | c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> |
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| Date | 2025-11-28 23:12 -0500 |
| Subject | Re: Chemical photography |
| Message-ID | <aVSdnRVUWLwB77f0nZ2dnZfqnPSdnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #78018 |
On 11/28/25 14:14, Carlos E.R. wrote: > On 2025-11-28 07:20, rbowman wrote: >> On Thu, 27 Nov 2025 23:47:03 -0500, c186282 wrote: >> >>> Japan, bear attacks are up SO much that now they're sending ARMY >>> units in to deal with them. The beasties are walking straight into >>> buildings and proceeding to try and eat people. The mil can't >>> seem to >>> figure out that a 5.56 isn't the best bear weapon alas ... a 12ga >>> with buckshot and/or slugs works much better. No, you don't need a >>> .500 Nitro Express, no armored bears here. >> >> The biologists that mess around in grizzly territory favor 12 gauge >> pumps, >> alternate slugs and 00 buckshot. I go with a .357 but that isn't optimal. > > Around here, you could go to prison for killing a bear. They are trying > to repopulate the mountains. Some parts of USA they're trying to repopulate WOLVES ... which are now coming into towns looking for yummy babies or whatever ...... Wolves are not Nice Doggies ... they're food-finding organized GANGS. Florida's efforts to repopulate alligators and bears have been seriously over-effective. Now there are hunts as humans keep getting attacked more and more often. Coyotes are also becoming an issue in numerous states. And eastern DEER ... now very dangerous pests. Save your state - shoot Bambi :-)
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| From | "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-11-29 14:10 +0100 |
| Subject | Repopulating bears, wolves... |
| Message-ID | <tu7rvlx29r.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> |
| In reply to | #78041 |
On 2025-11-29 05:12, c186282 wrote: > On 11/28/25 14:14, Carlos E.R. wrote: >> On 2025-11-28 07:20, rbowman wrote: >>> On Thu, 27 Nov 2025 23:47:03 -0500, c186282 wrote: >>> >>>> Japan, bear attacks are up SO much that now they're sending ARMY >>>> units in to deal with them. The beasties are walking straight into >>>> buildings and proceeding to try and eat people. The mil can't >>>> seem to >>>> figure out that a 5.56 isn't the best bear weapon alas ... a 12ga >>>> with buckshot and/or slugs works much better. No, you don't need a >>>> .500 Nitro Express, no armored bears here. >>> >>> The biologists that mess around in grizzly territory favor 12 gauge >>> pumps, >>> alternate slugs and 00 buckshot. I go with a .357 but that isn't >>> optimal. >> >> Around here, you could go to prison for killing a bear. They are >> trying to repopulate the mountains. > > Some parts of USA they're trying to repopulate WOLVES ... > which are now coming into towns looking for yummy babies > or whatever ...... Here they are also repopulating wolves. They don't go into cities, but they can kill sheep. -- Cheers, Carlos. ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;
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| From | Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> |
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| Date | 2025-11-29 08:53 -0800 |
| Subject | Re: Repopulating bears, wolves... |
| Message-ID | <10gf8f1$3hqd0$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #78058 |
On 11/29/25 05:10, Carlos E.R. wrote: > On 2025-11-29 05:12, c186282 wrote: >> On 11/28/25 14:14, Carlos E.R. wrote: >>> On 2025-11-28 07:20, rbowman wrote: >>>> On Thu, 27 Nov 2025 23:47:03 -0500, c186282 wrote: >>>> >>>>> Japan, bear attacks are up SO much that now they're sending ARMY >>>>> units in to deal with them. The beasties are walking straight into >>>>> buildings and proceeding to try and eat people. The mil can't >>>>> seem to >>>>> figure out that a 5.56 isn't the best bear weapon alas ... a 12ga >>>>> with buckshot and/or slugs works much better. No, you don't need a >>>>> .500 Nitro Express, no armored bears here. >>>> >>>> The biologists that mess around in grizzly territory favor 12 gauge >>>> pumps, >>>> alternate slugs and 00 buckshot. I go with a .357 but that isn't >>>> optimal. >>> >>> Around here, you could go to prison for killing a bear. They are >>> trying to repopulate the mountains. >> >> Some parts of USA they're trying to repopulate WOLVES ... >> which are now coming into towns looking for yummy babies >> or whatever ...... > > Here they are also repopulating wolves. They don't go into cities, but > they can kill sheep. I have not yet heard of a wolf entering a human occupied villiage or small town to look for a succulent and delicious baby but they do hit the stock farms. The wolves were here first like the Native Americans and a few sheep or even lame or sick cattle seem like rent to me. The use of Herding Dogs can reduce these depredations as can hunters. The use of poisoned bait carcasses is undesirable as it will hit other animals which eat dead animals like vultures which are needed to keep the environment clean. bliss
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2025-11-29 18:59 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: Repopulating bears, wolves... |
| Message-ID | <mp0u4qFtcjU3@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #78067 |
On Sat, 29 Nov 2025 08:53:50 -0800, Bobbie Sellers wrote: > I have not yet heard of a wolf entering a human occupied villiage or > small town to look for a succulent and delicious baby but they do hit > the stock farms. The wolves were here first like the Native Americans > and a few sheep or even lame or sick cattle seem like rent to me. The > use of Herding Dogs can reduce these depredations as can hunters. The > use of poisoned bait carcasses is undesirable as it will hit other > animals which eat dead animals like vultures which are needed to keep > the environment clean. https://missoulacurrent.com/viewpoint-montana-wolves/ The quota probably won't be filled but it's shaping up to be Humans 500, Wolves 0. The cats have a higher score although the last fatal attack around here was in '89.
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| From | c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> |
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| Date | 2025-11-29 22:49 -0500 |
| Subject | Re: Repopulating bears, wolves... |
| Message-ID | <DIGdncD95I9KI7b0nZ2dnZfqnPqdnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #78071 |
On 11/29/25 13:59, rbowman wrote: > On Sat, 29 Nov 2025 08:53:50 -0800, Bobbie Sellers wrote: > >> I have not yet heard of a wolf entering a human occupied villiage > or >> small town to look for a succulent and delicious baby but they do hit >> the stock farms. The wolves were here first like the Native Americans >> and a few sheep or even lame or sick cattle seem like rent to me. The >> use of Herding Dogs can reduce these depredations as can hunters. The >> use of poisoned bait carcasses is undesirable as it will hit other >> animals which eat dead animals like vultures which are needed to keep >> the environment clean. > > https://missoulacurrent.com/viewpoint-montana-wolves/ > > The quota probably won't be filled but it's shaping up to be Humans 500, > Wolves 0. The cats have a higher score although the last fatal attack > around here was in '89. Oh, a related gem from abroad : https://japantoday.com/category/national/japan-insurer-offers-product-to-cover-lost-profits-due-to-bear-intrusions I'd mentioned a sharp escalation in aggressive bear encounters in Japan - with the mil even getting involved in dealing with them ....... But NOW you can actually buy BEAR INSURANCE ! :-)
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| From | c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> |
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| Date | 2025-11-29 22:19 -0500 |
| Subject | Re: Repopulating bears, wolves... |
| Message-ID | <DIGdncT95I9WKrb0nZ2dnZfqnPqdnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #78067 |
On 11/29/25 11:53, Bobbie Sellers wrote: > > > On 11/29/25 05:10, Carlos E.R. wrote: >> On 2025-11-29 05:12, c186282 wrote: >>> On 11/28/25 14:14, Carlos E.R. wrote: >>>> On 2025-11-28 07:20, rbowman wrote: >>>>> On Thu, 27 Nov 2025 23:47:03 -0500, c186282 wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Japan, bear attacks are up SO much that now they're sending ARMY >>>>>> units in to deal with them. The beasties are walking straight >>>>>> into >>>>>> buildings and proceeding to try and eat people. The mil can't >>>>>> seem to >>>>>> figure out that a 5.56 isn't the best bear weapon alas ... a 12ga >>>>>> with buckshot and/or slugs works much better. No, you don't >>>>>> need a >>>>>> .500 Nitro Express, no armored bears here. >>>>> >>>>> The biologists that mess around in grizzly territory favor 12 gauge >>>>> pumps, >>>>> alternate slugs and 00 buckshot. I go with a .357 but that isn't >>>>> optimal. >>>> >>>> Around here, you could go to prison for killing a bear. They are >>>> trying to repopulate the mountains. >>> >>> Some parts of USA they're trying to repopulate WOLVES ... >>> which are now coming into towns looking for yummy babies >>> or whatever ...... >> >> Here they are also repopulating wolves. They don't go into cities, but >> they can kill sheep. > > I have not yet heard of a wolf entering a human occupied villiage or > small town to look for a succulent and delicious baby Find the news for Ely Wyoming ... damned things are now on the streets. https://www.kare11.com/article/news/local/recent-wolf-sightings-talk-of-town-in-ely/89-db31dc8e-3d17-4d5b-a32a-dac7cbe0c9fd > but they do hit the > stock farms. The wolves were here first like the Native Americans and a > few sheep or even lame or sick cattle seem like rent to me. The use of > Herding Dogs can reduce these depredations as can hunters. The use > of poisoned bait carcasses is undesirable as it will hit other animals > which eat dead animals like vultures which are needed to keep the > environment clean. They're hitting the stock farms BADLY in more and more cases and also chomping through lots of the (sometimes endangered) other wildlife. Like any other animal they will breed very quickly, invade everywhere, until the food supply finally runs out.
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