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| Started by | c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> |
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| First post | 2025-09-18 01:12 -0400 |
| Last post | 2025-09-20 15:47 +0000 |
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The Horrible Future : China - Holographic Cashless ATMs c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-18 01:12 -0400
Re: The Horrible Future : China - Holographic Cashless ATMs John McCue <jmclnx@SPAMisBADgmail.com> - 2025-09-18 14:21 +0000
Re: The Horrible Future : China - Holographic Cashless ATMs The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-18 17:12 +0100
Re: The Horrible Future : China - Holographic Cashless ATMs Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-09-22 00:59 +0000
Re: The Horrible Future : China - Holographic Cashless ATMs "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-22 11:52 +0200
Re: The Horrible Future : China - Holographic Cashless ATMs Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-09-22 22:55 +0000
Re: The Horrible Future : China - Holographic Cashless ATMs Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-23 00:07 +0000
Re: The Horrible Future : China - Holographic Cashless ATMs Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-09-23 01:42 +0000
Re: The Horrible Future : China - Holographic Cashless ATMs Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-23 02:45 +0000
Re: The Horrible Future : China - Holographic Cashless ATMs Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-09-23 06:09 +0000
Re: The Horrible Future : China - Holographic Cashless ATMs "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-23 09:57 +0200
Re: The Horrible Future : China - Holographic Cashless ATMs The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-23 10:54 +0100
Re: The Horrible Future : China - Holographic Cashless ATMs "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-23 13:28 +0200
Re: The Horrible Future : China - Holographic Cashless ATMs The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-23 13:41 +0100
Re: The Horrible Future : China - Holographic Cashless ATMs "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-23 22:05 +0200
Re: The Horrible Future : China - Holographic Cashless ATMs Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-09-23 22:20 +0000
Re: The Horrible Future : China - Holographic Cashless ATMs c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-23 21:30 -0400
Re: The Horrible Future : China - Holographic Cashless ATMs "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-24 12:12 +0200
Re: The Horrible Future : China - Holographic Cashless ATMs Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-09-24 20:42 +0000
Re: The Horrible Future : China - Holographic Cashless ATMs "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-24 23:19 +0200
Re: The Horrible Future : China - Holographic Cashless ATMs Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-09-25 00:29 +0000
Re: The Horrible Future : China - Holographic Cashless ATMs "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-25 02:56 +0200
Re: The Horrible Future : China - Holographic Cashless ATMs The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-25 09:46 +0100
Re: The Horrible Future : China - Holographic Cashless ATMs "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-25 13:10 +0200
Re: The Horrible Future : China - Holographic Cashless ATMs Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-09-23 22:17 +0000
Re: The Horrible Future : China - Holographic Cashless ATMs rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-24 03:09 +0000
Re: The Horrible Future : China - Holographic Cashless ATMs "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-24 12:14 +0200
Re: The Horrible Future : China - Holographic Cashless ATMs rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-23 16:56 +0000
Re: The Horrible Future : China - Holographic Cashless ATMs The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-23 18:12 +0100
Re: The Horrible Future : China - Holographic Cashless ATMs "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-23 22:08 +0200
Re: The Horrible Future : China - Holographic Cashless ATMs Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-09-23 21:45 +0000
Re: The Horrible Future : China - Holographic Cashless ATMs rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-24 03:15 +0000
Re: The Horrible Future : China - Holographic Cashless ATMs c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-24 00:21 -0400
Re: The Horrible Future : China - Holographic Cashless ATMs rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-24 03:14 +0000
Re: The Horrible Future : China - Holographic Cashless ATMs Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-24 05:06 +0000
Re: The Horrible Future : China - Holographic Cashless ATMs c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-24 01:22 -0400
Re: The Horrible Future : China - Holographic Cashless ATMs Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-24 05:42 +0000
Re: The Horrible Future : China - Holographic Cashless ATMs "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-24 12:20 +0200
Re: The Horrible Future : China - Holographic Cashless ATMs "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-24 12:16 +0200
Re: The Horrible Future : China - Holographic Cashless ATMs Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-23 11:01 +0100
Re: The Horrible Future : China - Holographic Cashless ATMs "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-23 13:22 +0200
Re: The Horrible Future : China - Holographic Cashless ATMs Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-09-23 21:42 +0000
Re: The Horrible Future : China - Holographic Cashless ATMs "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-24 12:21 +0200
Re: The Horrible Future : China - Holographic Cashless ATMs rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-18 20:07 +0000
Re: The Horrible Future : China - Holographic Cashless ATMs John McCue <jmclnx@SPAMisBADgmail.com> - 2025-09-20 15:47 +0000
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| From | "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-09-23 13:22 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <5gcaqlx33q.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> |
| In reply to | #74940 |
On 2025-09-23 12:01, Nuno Silva wrote: > On 2025-09-22, Carlos E.R. wrote: > >> On 2025-09-22 02:59, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote: >>> On Thu, 18 Sep 2025 14:21:06 -0000 (UTC), John McCue wrote: >>> >>>> ... eventually we will be in a cashless society. >>> >>> Here in 🇳🇿 it’s common to go months without any cash changing hands. >> >> Two days ago I ate "churros with chocolate" at a street "cabin" (fixed >> truck), and they had a sign: cash only. >> >> On Chinese bazaars here (owned by Chinese people, so in sort called >> here "the chino") it is typical that there is a minimum amount to >> accept a card, otherwise it is cash. >> >> I know some road coffee places with a similar sign: minimum for card >> use is 10€. >> >> >> On the other hand, there is a regulation that mandates that any >> payment of 1000€ and above can not be made in cash. > > So Spain has excessive charges for merchants from payment processors? > stores in Portugal went through such a stint, which did sound > excessively inconvenient, as some would probably prefer to pay small > items with bank cards instead of cash. Limit was usually EUR 5, though, > not 10. > > This wasn't just small businesses, but also grocery stores in big > supermarket chains. The driver was, at least reportedly, the charges > incurred in accepting such transactions. I really don't know, but it is what I suspect. It is hearsay. The limit varies, 5€, 8, 10, 20... possibly depending on what bank conditions each place gets. I read somewhere that merchants were very interested in the Bizum system, which is a person to person instant payment method, with zero cost; you only need the phone number of the other person. It is quite popular for sharing the cost of a venue in a group of friends. Merchants were very interested because of the zero cost part, but soon banks put a limit to the amount or number of transactions per month. Also that it is designed to go with the personal phone number, not a business account. I heard that they want to charge a commission to merchants. -- Cheers, Carlos. ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;
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| From | Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-09-23 21:42 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <10av487$393b7$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #74959 |
On Tue, 23 Sep 2025 13:22:13 +0200, Carlos E.R. wrote: > I read somewhere that merchants were very interested in the Bizum > system, which is a person to person instant payment method, with zero > cost; you only need the phone number of the other person. It sounds like the M-Pesa system that the Kenyans invented. Very few people there have bank accounts, so the mobile phone company becomes the payment processor instead. And smartphones are rare, so it’s all done via SMS.
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| From | "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-09-24 12:21 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <2atcqlxt9j.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> |
| In reply to | #75027 |
On 2025-09-23 23:42, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote: > On Tue, 23 Sep 2025 13:22:13 +0200, Carlos E.R. wrote: > >> I read somewhere that merchants were very interested in the Bizum >> system, which is a person to person instant payment method, with zero >> cost; you only need the phone number of the other person. > > It sounds like the M-Pesa system that the Kenyans invented. Very few > people there have bank accounts, so the mobile phone company becomes the > payment processor instead. And smartphones are rare, so it’s all done via > SMS. Ah, no, Bizum is tied to an actual bank account. -- Cheers, Carlos. ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2025-09-18 20:07 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <mj374tF681dU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #74461 |
On Thu, 18 Sep 2025 01:12:07 -0400, c186282 wrote: > The US state of Florida recently made it legal to do biz using gold > coin - though not sure how many biz can cope with those. Purity > scanners would be required. Domino's Pizza ain't gonna make change for your Panda. Junk silver might be a little more feasible in a SHTF scenario. Or .22 LR ammo.
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| From | John McCue <jmclnx@SPAMisBADgmail.com> |
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| Date | 2025-09-20 15:47 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <10amiad$16u77$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #74489 |
rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:
> On Thu, 18 Sep 2025 01:12:07 -0400, c186282 wrote:
>
>> The US state of Florida recently made it legal to do biz using gold
>> coin - though not sure how many biz can cope with those. Purity
>> scanners would be required.
>
> Domino's Pizza ain't gonna make change for your Panda. Junk silver might
> be a little more feasible in a SHTF scenario. Or .22 LR ammo.
To add to that, the delivery person probably will have no
idea what it is and may even call the police.
--
[t]csh(1) - "An elegant shell, for a more... civilized age."
- Paraphrasing Star Wars
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