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  Let's Have Some GNU/Linux: GV Postscript Warning Leroy H <lh@somewhere.net> - 2026-09-19 01:32 +0000
    Re: Let's Have Some GNU/Linux: GV Postscript Warning jayjwa <jayjwa@atr2.ath.cx.invalid> - 2026-09-19 12:32 -0400
      Re: Let's Have Some GNU/Linux: GV Postscript Warning Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-09-19 22:10 +0000
        Re: Let's Have Some GNU/Linux: GV Postscript Warning Leroy H <lh@somewhere.net> - 2026-09-20 02:53 +0000
          systemd and Wayland evangelization (was: Re: Let's Have Some GNU/Linux: GV Postscript Warning) Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-20 09:01 +0100
            Re: systemd and Wayland evangelization (was: Re: Let's Have Some GNU/Linux: GV Postscript Warning) Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2026-09-20 09:28 +0000
              Re: systemd and Wayland evangelization (was: Re: Let's Have Some GNU/Linux: GV Postscript Warning) Leroy H <lh@somewhere.net> - 2026-09-20 20:00 +0000
                Re: systemd and Wayland evangelization (was: Re: Let's Have Some GNU/Linux: GV Postscript Warning) Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2026-09-26 10:24 +0000
          Re: Let's Have Some GNU/Linux: GV Postscript Warning Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2026-09-20 09:10 +0000
            Re: Let's Have Some GNU/Linux: GV Postscript Warning Leroy H <lh@somewhere.net> - 2026-09-20 14:50 +0000
              Re: Let's Have Some GNU/Linux: GV Postscript Warning rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-09-20 17:25 +0000
                Re: Let's Have Some GNU/Linux: GV Postscript Warning Leroy H <lh@somewhere.net> - 2026-09-20 19:19 +0000
                  Re: Let's Have Some GNU/Linux: GV Postscript Warning rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-09-21 01:49 +0000
                    Re: Let's Have Some GNU/Linux: GV Postscript Warning Leroy H <lh@somewhere.net> - 2026-09-21 02:28 +0000
                  Choices and flexibility in Linux distributions (was: Re: Let's Have Some GNU/Linux: GV Postscript Warning) Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-22 11:00 +0100
                  Re: Let's Have Some GNU/Linux: GV Postscript Warning Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2026-09-26 10:10 +0000
              Re: Let's Have Some GNU/Linux: GV Postscript Warning "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-20 20:48 +0200
            Re: Let's Have Some GNU/Linux: GV Postscript Warning Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-09-21 00:28 +0000
              Re: Let's Have Some GNU/Linux: GV Postscript Warning Leroy H <lh@somewhere.net> - 2026-09-21 01:21 +0000
              Re: Let's Have Some GNU/Linux: GV Postscript Warning c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-09-20 23:50 -0400
          Re: Let's Have Some GNU/Linux: GV Postscript Warning "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-20 14:04 +0200
            Re: Let's Have Some GNU/Linux: GV Postscript Warning Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-20 23:46 +0100
            Re: Let's Have Some GNU/Linux: GV Postscript Warning The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-21 12:19 +0100
      Re: Let's Have Some GNU/Linux: GV Postscript Warning Leroy H <lh@somewhere.net> - 2026-09-20 02:45 +0000
        Re: Let's Have Some GNU/Linux: GV Postscript Warning jayjwa <jayjwa@atr2.ath.cx.invalid> - 2026-09-21 17:15 -0400
          Re: Let's Have Some GNU/Linux: GV Postscript Warning Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-22 11:06 +0100
    X11 "Missing charsets in String to FontSet conversion" (was: Re: Let's Have Some GNU/Linux: GV Postscript Warning) Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-20 09:17 +0100

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#91840

On 2026-09-20 04:53, Leroy H wrote:
> On Sat, 19 Sep 2026 22:10:59 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:
> 
>>
>> What’s the problem with systemd exactly?
>>
> 
> The problem, exactly, is that systemd is TOTALLY UNNECESSARY.

It just works for me.

However, tell me: how exactly does systemd fuck gv postscript?



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#91868

On 2026-09-20, Carlos E.R. wrote:

> On 2026-09-20 04:53, Leroy H wrote:
>> On Sat, 19 Sep 2026 22:10:59 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> What’s the problem with systemd exactly?
>>>
>>
>> The problem, exactly, is that systemd is TOTALLY UNNECESSARY.
>
> It just works for me.
>
> However, tell me: how exactly does systemd fuck gv postscript?

By derailing the thread, that's how... :-P

-- 
Nuno Silva

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#91889

On 20/09/2026 13:04, Carlos E.R. wrote:
> On 2026-09-20 04:53, Leroy H wrote:
>> On Sat, 19 Sep 2026 22:10:59 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> What’s the problem with systemd exactly?
>>>
>>
>> The problem, exactly, is that systemd is TOTALLY UNNECESSARY.
> 
> It just works for me.
> 
After a few years, that is becoming more true. As everybody else 
requires there scripts to work with it


> However, tell me: how exactly does systemd fuck gv postscript?
> 
> 
> 

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#91805

On Sat, 19 Sep 2026 12:32:41 -0400, jayjwa wrote:

> 
> You get font warnings when you run gv? Noob. No reason to set LC_ALL=C
> like it's the year 2000 all over again, just get better fonts.
> 

The setting would only apply to a single gv instance:

[~] LC_CTYPE=C gv &

But what do you mean by "better fonts?"  AFAIU, gv is just a graphical
front end to ghostscript, and ghostscript has always used the URW fonts
for rendering documents:

<https://github.com/ArtifexSoftware/urw-base35-fonts>

Could the warning messages refer only to the fonts used in the graphical
menus of gv?

AFAIK, there is no observed loss of functionality in gv with the warning
messages.


> 
>> But this seemingly innocent episode reveals just how much
>> of legacy GNU/Linux is being threatened by the pseudo-progressive
>> morons of systemd/wayland/gnome.
> 
> Correct. Or "nu-linux" as I call it.
>

I am very surprised that you would agree.  This statement of mine
was only intended to irk the distro slaves who have not the ability
to resist/refuse the egregious imposition of systemd/wayland/gnome.

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#91915

Leroy H <lh@somewhere.net> writes:

> <https://github.com/ArtifexSoftware/urw-base35-fonts>
>
> Could the warning messages refer only to the fonts used in the graphical
> menus of gv?

Not the fonts GS is using itself, but rather in the GUI
environment. Look at the Google color emoji, Noto, Hack, Nerd, and
similar fonts that have good coverage and support utf8. You shouldn't
see any warnings with xfig, xpaint, gv, or others. Foreign characters
should render, and emojis should show in color.

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#91956

On 2026-09-21, jayjwa wrote:

> Leroy H <lh@somewhere.net> writes:
>
>> <https://github.com/ArtifexSoftware/urw-base35-fonts>
>>
>> Could the warning messages refer only to the fonts used in the graphical
>> menus of gv?
>
> Not the fonts GS is using itself, but rather in the GUI
> environment. Look at the Google color emoji, Noto, Hack, Nerd, and
> similar fonts that have good coverage and support utf8. You shouldn't
> see any warnings with xfig, xpaint, gv, or others. Foreign characters
> should render, and emojis should show in color.

Isn't emojis showing in colors other than the text color an
accessibility and usability problem?

-- 
Nuno Silva

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#91818 — X11 "Missing charsets in String to FontSet conversion" (was: Re: Let's Have Some GNU/Linux: GV Postscript Warning)

On 2026-09-19, Leroy H wrote:

> PostScript has always been the language of Unix and hence GNU/Linux.
>
> However, I notice a problem with the venerable "gv:"
>
> <https://www.gnu.org/software/gv/>
>
> I get warnings each time I invoke gv:
>
> Warning: Missing charsets in String to FontSet conversion
> Warning: Unable to load any usable fontset
>
> The problem, and solution, is described in the following web
> page:
>
> <https://superuser.com/questions/1531413/getting-warning-missing-charsets-in-string-to-fontset-conversion>

I've read [1] because the address above currently gives me "Enable
JavaScript and cookies to continue". If I enable JS, I get a blank page,
so this is utterly useless. Thank you, StackExchange, or are you called
StackOverflow again now? (Yes, I'm aware this is Cloudflare, but it's
still the site that chooses to limit itself to a handful of browsers.)

[1] <http://web.archive.org/web/20250703145623/https://superuser.com/questions/1531413/getting-warning-missing-charsets-in-string-to-fontset-conversion>

This being an X11 message, I suppose this is unrelated to PostScript and
ghostscript. [2] actually had one case where the problem was a font
being removed due to licensing. Although that depends on whether the
search order mentioned in [1] allows its reinstallation to be
sufficient?

[2] <https://sigwait.org/~alex/blog/2021/05/25/missing-charsets-in-string-to-fontset-conversion.html>

> Fortunately, we still have some people who are versed in the
> original brand of GNU/Linux that has not been bastardized by
> the systemd/wayland/gnome folks (and I use that term kindly).
>
> I have already updated my config and other files with that
> recommendation and no longer receive the warning.
>
> But this seemingly innocent episode reveals just how much
> of legacy GNU/Linux is being threatened by the pseudo-progressive
> morons of systemd/wayland/gnome.

You'd probably have more of a point here if you were criticizing
Freedesktop specifically, as that's probably where you got that config
from.

> Anyone who disagrees is myopic idiot.

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