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Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ?

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First post2025-11-08 02:01 -0500
Last post2026-01-05 18:20 +0000
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  Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-08 02:01 -0500
    Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? Diego Garcia <dg@linux.rocks> - 2025-11-08 11:31 +0000
      Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? Diego Garcia <dg@linux.rocks> - 2025-11-08 12:15 +0000
        Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-08 13:32 +0100
          Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-09 00:08 -0500
            Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-09 19:51 +0000
              Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-10 00:38 -0500
                Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-10 07:35 +0000
        Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-08 12:50 +0000
        Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? Diego Garcia <dg@linux.rocks> - 2025-11-08 12:57 +0000
      Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-08 23:58 -0500
        Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? Diego Garcia <dg@linux.rocks> - 2025-11-09 11:25 +0000
          Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-09 12:48 +0000
            Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-09 23:29 -0500
          Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-11-09 09:18 -0800
            Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? Diego Garcia <dg@linux.rocks> - 2025-11-09 20:13 +0000
              Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-10 07:47 +0000
                Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-10 12:09 +0000
                  Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-10 20:35 +0000
                    Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-11-10 21:15 +0000
                      Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-10 23:33 +0000
                        Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-11 03:23 +0000
                          Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-11 01:03 -0500
                          Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-11 10:57 +0000
                            Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-11 19:36 +0000
                        Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-11 20:50 +0100
                          Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-11 23:44 +0000
                            Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-12 01:38 -0500
                              Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-11-12 20:44 +0000
                                Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-11-12 16:38 -0800
                                  Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-13 04:29 +0000
                                    Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-11-13 05:07 +0000
                                      Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-13 01:09 -0500
                                    Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-13 00:42 -0500
                                  Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-13 00:37 -0500
                          Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-11 23:46 -0500
                          Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-12 05:31 +0000
                            Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-11-12 06:00 +0000
                              Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-12 02:08 -0500
                                Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-12 10:55 +0000
                                  Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-12 23:30 -0500
                            Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-12 01:56 -0500
                            Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-12 10:54 +0000
                              Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-12 23:17 -0500
                                Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-13 10:38 +0000
                            Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-12 12:20 +0100
                              Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-12 23:50 -0500
                      Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-11 03:18 +0000
                        Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-11 00:54 -0500
                          Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-11 19:28 +0000
                            Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-11 23:25 +0000
                              Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-12 04:35 +0000
                                Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-12 01:49 -0500
                                Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-12 10:49 +0000
                              Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-12 01:31 -0500
                                Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-11-12 20:44 +0000
                            Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-11 23:33 -0500
                          Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-11-11 21:07 +0000
                            Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-12 01:21 -0500
                              Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-11-12 20:44 +0000
                                Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-13 00:13 -0500
                                Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-13 05:40 +0000
                                  Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-13 01:20 -0500
                    Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-10 23:31 +0000
                      Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-11 03:39 +0000
                Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-11-10 19:48 +0000
                  Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? Diego Garcia <dg@linux.rocks> - 2025-11-10 20:35 +0000
                    Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-10 21:53 +0100
                  Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-10 20:37 +0000
                Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-10 23:51 -0500
                  Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-11 19:40 +0000
                    Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-11 23:01 +0000
                      Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-12 04:33 +0000
                        Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-12 12:27 +0100
                          Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2025-11-12 12:44 +0000
                            Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-12 14:17 +0100
                            Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-12 23:51 -0500
                              Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-13 22:38 +0100
                                Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-13 21:30 -0500
                                  Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-11-14 04:21 +0000
                                    Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-14 07:10 +0000
                                      Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-14 02:51 -0500
                                  Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-14 07:08 +0000
                                    Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-14 13:40 +0100
                                      Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-11-14 16:26 +0000
                                        Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-14 19:51 +0000
                                        Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-14 19:22 -0500
                                      Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? vallor <vallor@vallor.earth> - 2025-11-14 17:34 +0000
                                        Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-14 19:54 +0000
                                  Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-14 13:37 +0100
                                    Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-14 16:09 -0500
                                      Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-15 02:05 +0000
                                        Recent history of vi (was: Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ?) Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-15 09:59 +0000
                                          Re: Recent history of vi (was: Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ?) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-15 17:32 +0000
                                            Re: Recent history of vi (was: Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ?) ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) - 2025-11-15 18:48 +0000
                                              Re: Recent history of vi (was: Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ?) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-15 21:38 +0000
                                                Re: Recent history of vi (was: Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose?) Eli the Bearded <*@eli.users.panix.com> - 2025-11-15 22:07 +0000
                                                  Re: Recent history of vi (was: Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose?) Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-11-15 22:21 +0000
                                                    Re: Recent history of vi (was: Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose?) Eli the Bearded <*@eli.users.panix.com> - 2025-11-15 23:14 +0000
                                                      Re: Recent history of vi (was: Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose?) Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-11-16 00:29 +0000
                                                        Re: Recent history of vi (was: Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose?) Eli the Bearded <*@eli.users.panix.com> - 2025-11-16 00:43 +0000
                                                          Re: Recent history of vi (was: Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose?) Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-11-16 00:45 +0000
                                                          Re: Recent history of vi Pancho <Pancho.Jones@protonmail.com> - 2025-11-16 09:14 +0000
                                                            Re: Recent history of vi mechanicjay@sol.smbfc.net (Mechanicjay) - 2025-11-16 15:40 +0000
                                                              Re: Recent history of vi Joe Makowiec <makowiec@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-16 18:38 +0000
                                                                Re: Recent history of vi mechanicjay@sol.smbfc.net (Mechanicjay) - 2025-11-18 03:55 +0000
                                                                  Re: Recent history of vi Joe Makowiec <makowiec@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-19 13:11 +0000
                                                                    Re: Recent history of vi Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-11-19 20:12 +0000
                                                            Re: Recent history of vi rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-16 19:10 +0000
                                                            Re: Recent history of vi Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-11-16 21:01 +0000
                                                  Re: Recent history of vi (was: Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose?) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-16 03:43 +0000
                                                  Re: Recent history of vi Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-11-16 09:35 -0500
                                                    Re: Recent history of vi mechanicjay@sol.smbfc.net (Mechanicjay) - 2025-11-16 15:47 +0000
                                                Re: Recent history of vi (was: Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ?) ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) - 2025-11-16 05:15 +0000
                                                  Re: Recent history of vi (was: Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ?) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-16 19:31 +0000
                                                    Re: Recent history of vi (was: Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ?) ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) - 2025-11-16 20:27 +0000
                                                      Re: Recent history of vi The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-16 20:30 +0000
                                                        Re: Recent history of vi Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-11-16 21:04 +0000
                                                        Re: Recent history of vi rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-17 04:08 +0000
                                                          Re: Recent history of vi Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-11-17 11:39 -0500
                                                Re: Recent history of vi Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-11-16 09:31 -0500
                                                  Re: Recent history of vi rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-16 19:03 +0000
                                                  Re: Recent history of vi Eli the Bearded <*@eli.users.panix.com> - 2025-11-17 02:32 +0000
                                              Re: Recent history of vi (was: Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ?) Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-11-15 21:51 +0000
                                                Re: Recent history of vi (was: Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ?) ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) - 2025-11-16 05:11 +0000
                                                  Re: Recent history of vi (was: Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ?) Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-11-16 05:13 +0000
                                                    Re: Recent history of vi (was: Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ?) Ian <${send-direct-email-to-news1021-at-jusme-dot-com-if-you-must}@jusme.com> - 2025-11-16 12:15 +0000
                                                      Re: Recent history of vi (was: Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ?) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-16 19:24 +0000
                                                        Re: Recent history of vi (was: Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ?) Ian <${send-direct-email-to-news1021-at-jusme-dot-com-if-you-must}@jusme.com> - 2025-11-17 08:24 +0000
                                                          Re: Recent history of vi (was: Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ?) Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-11-17 19:57 +0000
                                                            Re: Recent history of vi (was: Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ?) Ian <${send-direct-email-to-news1021-at-jusme-dot-com-if-you-must}@jusme.com> - 2025-11-18 08:02 +0000
                                                              Re: Recent history of vi The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-18 12:09 +0000
                                                      Re: Recent history of vi (was: Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ?) Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-11-16 20:56 +0000
                                                        Re: Recent history of vi (was: Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ?) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-17 04:01 +0000
                                                        Re: Recent history of vi (was: Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ?) Ian <${send-direct-email-to-news1021-at-jusme-dot-com-if-you-must}@jusme.com> - 2025-11-17 08:27 +0000
                                                  Re: Recent history of vi The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-16 10:33 +0000
                                                    Re: Recent history of vi Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-11-16 09:49 -0500
                                                      Re: Recent history of vi rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-16 19:28 +0000
                                                        Re: Recent history of vi ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) - 2025-11-16 20:19 +0000
                                                          Re: Recent history of vi Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-11-16 20:59 +0000
                                                            Re: Recent history of vi ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) - 2025-11-16 21:04 +0000
                                                              Re: Recent history of vi Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-11-16 21:19 +0000
                                                                Re: Recent history of vi ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) - 2025-11-16 21:23 +0000
                                                            Re: Recent history of vi Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-16 23:13 +0000
                                                              Re: Recent history of vi ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) - 2025-11-16 23:18 +0000
                                                                Re: Recent history of vi Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-11-17 00:43 +0000
                                                                  Re: Recent history of vi Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-11-21 19:55 +0000
                                                                    Re: Recent history of vi Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-11-21 20:27 +0000
                                                                      Re: Recent history of vi Eli the Bearded <*@eli.users.panix.com> - 2025-11-22 03:20 +0000
                                                                        Re: Recent history of vi Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-11-22 05:57 +0000
                                                              Re: Recent history of vi Niklas Karlsson <nikke.karlsson@gmail.com> - 2025-11-16 23:51 +0000
                                                            Re: Recent history of vi Johnny Billquist <bqt@softjar.se> - 2025-11-18 20:04 +0100
                                                              Re: Recent history of vi Eli the Bearded <*@eli.users.panix.com> - 2025-11-18 20:29 +0000
                                                                Re: Recent history of vi Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-19 08:24 +0000
                                                                Re: Recent history of vi Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-11-21 19:58 +0000
                                                                  Re: Recent history of vi Niklas Karlsson <nikke.karlsson@gmail.com> - 2025-11-21 21:14 +0000
                                                                    ISO 8859-1, ISO 8859-15 and their names (was: Re: Recent history of vi) Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-21 23:20 +0000
                                                                  Re: Recent history of vi Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2025-11-21 19:10 -0700
                                                                    Re: Recent history of vi Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-11-22 10:23 +0000
                                                                Re: Recent history of vi Johnny Billquist <bqt@softjar.se> - 2025-11-22 17:55 +0100
                                                                  Re: Recent history of vi Alexander Schreiber <als@usenet.thangorodrim.de> - 2025-11-22 19:20 +0100
                                                                    Re: Recent history of vi Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-11-22 21:43 +0000
                                                                      Re: Recent history of vi "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-23 00:23 +0100
                                                                        Re: Recent history of vi rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-23 02:17 +0000
                                                                          Re: Recent history of vi The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-23 09:42 +0000
                                                                          Re: Recent history of vi "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-23 14:59 +0100
                                                                            Re: Recent history of vi Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-11-23 13:09 -0800
                                                                              Re: Recent history of vi Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-11-23 22:57 +0000
                                                                        Re: Recent history of vi Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-11-23 02:56 +0000
                                                                        Re: Recent history of vi Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2025-11-22 20:18 -0700
                                                                        Re: typing in the mysterious East, Recent history of vi John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2025-11-24 01:45 +0000
                                                                          Re: typing in the mysterious East, Recent history of vi Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-11-23 18:06 -0800
                                                                            Re: typing in the mysterious East, Recent history of vi Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-11-24 02:13 +0000
                                                                            Re: typing in the mysterious East, Recent history of vi John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2025-11-24 02:23 +0000
                                                                    Re: Recent history of vi Johnny Billquist <bqt@softjar.se> - 2025-11-27 19:55 +0100
                                                                      Re: Recent history of vi Alexander Schreiber <als@usenet.thangorodrim.de> - 2025-11-28 22:08 +0100
                                                                        Re: Recent history of vi Johnny Billquist <bqt@softjar.se> - 2025-12-03 13:37 +0100
                                                                          Re: Recent history of vi "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-03 13:56 +0100
                                                                            Re: Recent history of vi The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-03 13:58 +0000
                                                                              Re: Recent history of vi "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-03 15:40 +0100
                                                                          Re: Recent history of vi Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2025-12-03 07:39 -0700
                                                                            Re: Recent history of vi Andreas Eder <a_eder_muc@web.de> - 2025-12-06 16:46 +0100
                                                                            Re: Recent history of vi Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-12-13 08:28 +0000
                                                                            Re: Recent history of vi Johnny Billquist <bqt@softjar.se> - 2025-12-15 10:38 +0100
                                                                              Re: Recent history of vi antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2025-12-16 02:20 +0000
                                                                                Re: Recent history of vi Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-12-16 02:52 +0000
                                                                                Re: Recent history of vi Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-16 11:53 +0000
                                                                                  Re: Recent history of vi Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-16 17:42 +0000
                                                                                Re: Recent history of vi Johnny Billquist <bqt@softjar.se> - 2025-12-17 10:39 +0100
                                                                              Re: Recent history of vi "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-16 23:34 +0100
                                                                                Re: Recent history of vi Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-12-17 01:49 +0000
                                                                          Re: Recent history of vi Diego Garcia <dg@linux.rocks> - 2025-12-03 14:40 +0000
                                                                          Re: Recent history of vi Eli the Bearded <*@eli.users.panix.com> - 2025-12-04 07:00 +0000
                                                                            Re: Recent history of vi Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-12-05 20:52 +0000
                                                                              Re: Recent history of vi Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2025-12-05 15:57 -0700
                                                                                Re: Recent history of vi candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2025-12-08 18:40 +0000
                                                                                  Re: Recent history of vi Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-12-13 11:42 +0000
                                                                                Re: Recent history of vi Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-12-13 11:40 +0000
                                                                                  Re: Recent history of vi "Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2025-12-13 15:58 +0000
                                                                              Re: Recent history of vi The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-06 12:22 +0000
                                                                                Re: Recent history of vi rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-06 19:51 +0000
                                                                                  Re: Recent history of vi Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2025-12-06 15:13 -0700
                                                                                    Re: polyglot programming, Recent history of vi John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2025-12-06 22:28 +0000
                                                                                      Re: polyglot programming, Recent history of vi rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-07 01:39 +0000
                                                                                        Re: polyglot programming, Recent history of vi Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-12-07 06:19 +0000
                                                                                          Re: polyglot programming, Recent history of vi Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-12-06 22:50 -0800
                                                                                            Re: polyglot programming, Recent history of vi "Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2025-12-07 10:52 +0000
                                                                                              Re: polyglot programming, Recent history of vi "Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2025-12-22 12:02 +0000
                                                                                          Re: polyglot programming, Recent history of vi rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-07 18:34 +0000
                                                                                          Re: polyglot programming, Recent history of vi Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-12-16 00:02 +0000
                                                                                            Re: polyglot programming, Recent history of vi rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-16 01:41 +0000
                                                                                              Re: polyglot programming, Recent history of vi Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2025-12-16 07:39 -0700
                                                                                                Re: polyglot programming, Recent history of vi The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-16 15:57 +0000
                                                                                                Re: polyglot programming, Recent history of vi Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-12-17 07:13 +0000
                                                                                      Re: polyglot programming, Recent history of vi Andy Walker <anw@cuboid.co.uk> - 2025-12-07 16:58 +0000
                                                                                        Re: polyglot programming, Recent history of vi Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-12-16 00:00 +0000
                                                                                    Re: Recent history of vi Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-12-07 00:35 +0000
                                                                                      Re: Recent history of vi "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-07 19:48 +0100
                                                                                    Re: Recent history of vi Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> - 2025-12-07 00:38 +0000
                                                                                  Re: Recent history of vi Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-07 01:31 +0000
                                                                                  Re: Recent history of vi The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-07 11:18 +0000
                                                                                    Re: Recent history of vi rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-07 18:52 +0000
                                                                                      Re: more polyglot programming, was Recent history of vi John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2025-12-07 19:39 +0000
                                                                                        Re: more polyglot programming, was Recent history of vi The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-07 20:27 +0000
                                                                                        Re: more polyglot programming, was Recent history of vi Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2025-12-07 14:31 -0700
                                                                                        Re: more polyglot programming, was Recent history of vi rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-08 01:46 +0000
                                                                                          Re: more polyglot programming, was Recent history of vi Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-12-08 05:53 +0000
                                                                                            Re: more polyglot programming, was Recent history of vi Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-12-07 22:25 -0800
                                                                                            Re: more polyglot programming, was Recent history of vi rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-08 08:34 +0000
                                                                                          Re: more polyglot programming, was Recent history of vi The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-08 08:48 +0000
                                                                                            Re: more polyglot programming, was Recent history of vi rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-08 23:43 +0000
                                                                                        Re: more polyglot programming, was Recent history of vi Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-12-15 23:56 +0000
                                                                                Re: Recent history of vi Alexander Schreiber <als@usenet.thangorodrim.de> - 2025-12-07 16:31 +0100
                                                                                  Re: Recent history of vi rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-07 18:49 +0000
                                                                                    Re: Recent history of vi scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-12-07 19:12 +0000
                                                                                      Re: Recent history of vi rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-07 19:44 +0000
                                                                                        Re: Recent history of vi Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-12-07 12:14 -0800
                                                                                        Re: Recent history of vi The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-07 20:26 +0000
                                                                                          Re: Recent history of vi rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-08 03:05 +0000
                                                                                            Re: Recent history of vi The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-08 08:46 +0000
                                                                                              Re: Recent history of vi Alexander Schreiber <als@usenet.thangorodrim.de> - 2025-12-08 16:39 +0100
                                                                                              Re: Recent history of vi Rich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com> - 2025-12-08 16:07 -0500
                                                                                                Re: Recent history of vi "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-10 13:15 +0100
                                                                                                  Re: Recent history of vi The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-10 13:43 +0000
                                                                                                    Re: Recent history of vi rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-11 02:54 +0000
                                                                                                      Re: Recent history of vi The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-11 08:55 +0000
                                                                                              Re: Recent history of vi Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-12-15 00:41 +0000
                                                                                        Re: Recent history of vi Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2025-12-07 14:30 -0700
                                                                                          Re: Recent history of vi rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-08 03:12 +0000
                                                                                      Re: Recent history of vi Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-12-07 11:52 -0800
                                                                                      Re: Recent history of vi The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-07 20:23 +0000
                                                                                        Re: Recent history of vi Alexander Schreiber <als@usenet.thangorodrim.de> - 2025-12-07 22:54 +0100
                                                                                          Re: Recent history of vi Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-12-07 14:25 -0800
                                                                                            Re: Recent history of vi The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-08 08:25 +0000
                                                                                            Re: Recent history of vi Alexander Schreiber <als@usenet.thangorodrim.de> - 2025-12-08 16:26 +0100
                                                                                              Re: Recent history of vi Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2025-12-08 12:15 -0700
                                                                                                Re: Recent history of vi Rich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com> - 2025-12-08 16:13 -0500
                                                                                                  Re: Recent history of vi "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-10 13:19 +0100
                                                                                                Re: Recent history of vi rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-09 00:08 +0000
                                                                                              Re: Recent history of vi rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-08 23:58 +0000
                                                                                          Greek origins of Christian scriptures [was Re: Recent history of vi] Rich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com> - 2025-12-07 18:17 -0500
                                                                                          Re: Recent history of vi Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-12-08 01:35 +0000
                                                                                            Re: Recent history of vi The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-08 08:34 +0000
                                                                                            Re: Recent history of vi "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-08 14:23 +0100
                                                                                              Re: Recent history of vi rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-09 01:10 +0000
                                                                                                Re: Recent history of vi Eli the Bearded <*@eli.users.panix.com> - 2025-12-09 04:25 +0000
                                                                                                  Re: Recent history of vi ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) - 2025-12-09 04:47 +0000
                                                                                                  Re: Recent history of vi "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-10 15:16 +0100
                                                                                                    Re: Recent history of vi The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-10 16:59 +0000
                                                                                                      Re: Recent history of vi rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-11 02:55 +0000
                                                                                                        Re: Recent history of vi Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-12-10 19:34 -0800
                                                                                                        Re: Recent history of vi drb@ihatespam.msu.edu (Dennis Boone) - 2025-12-12 16:13 +0000
                                                                                                          Re: Recent history of vi "Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2025-12-13 15:51 +0000
                                                                                                            Re: Recent history of vi Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-12-14 04:57 +0000
                                                                                                              Re: Recent history of vi Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-12-13 21:21 -0800
                                                                                                              Re: Recent history of vi Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-12-20 00:21 +0000
                                                                                                                Re: Recent history of vi rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-20 05:52 +0000
                                                                                          Re: Recent history of vi rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-08 02:38 +0000
                                                                                          Re: Recent history of vi The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-08 08:21 +0000
                                                                                            Re: Recent history of vi Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2025-12-08 07:38 -0700
                                                                                              Re: Recent history of vi Niklas Karlsson <nikke.karlsson@gmail.com> - 2025-12-12 06:59 +0000
                                                                                                Re: Recent history of vi rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-12 07:35 +0000
                                                                                            Re: Recent history of vi Alexander Schreiber <als@usenet.thangorodrim.de> - 2025-12-08 16:35 +0100
                                                                                              Re: Recent history of vi "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-10 13:54 +0100
                                                                                                Re: Recent history of vi The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-10 13:41 +0000
                                                                                                  Re: Recent history of vi Alexander Schreiber <als@usenet.thangorodrim.de> - 2025-12-10 23:07 +0100
                                                                                                    Re: Recent history of vi The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-11 08:52 +0000
                                                                                                      Re: Recent history of vi John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2025-12-11 20:54 +0000
                                                                                                        Re: Recent history of vi The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-11 20:57 +0000
                                                                                                          Re: linguistic hegemony, was Recent history of vi John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2025-12-12 02:01 +0000
                                                                                                            Re: linguistic hegemony, was Recent history of vi rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-12 02:27 +0000
                                                                                                            Re: linguistic hegemony, was Recent history of vi "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-12 03:28 +0100
                                                                                                            Re: linguistic hegemony, was Recent history of vi Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-12-11 21:43 -0800
                                                                                                              Re: linguistic hegemony, was Recent history of vi rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-12 07:25 +0000
                                                                                                      Re: Recent history of vi Alexander Schreiber <als@usenet.thangorodrim.de> - 2025-12-12 09:57 +0100
                                                                                                        EU (was: Re: Recent history of vi "Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2025-12-12 09:53 +0000
                                                                                                          Re: EU (was: Re: Recent history of vi Alexander Schreiber <als@usenet.thangorodrim.de> - 2025-12-12 11:51 +0100
                                                                                                          Re: EU The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-12 11:54 +0000
                                                                                                            Re: EU rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-12 19:26 +0000
                                                                                                              Re: EU Alexander Schreiber <als@usenet.thangorodrim.de> - 2025-12-13 12:01 +0100
                                                                                                                Re: EU Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-12-20 00:23 +0000
                                                                                                              Re: EU The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-15 18:34 +0000
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                                                                                                                    Re: EU rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-15 23:24 +0000
                                                                                                                      Re: EU Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-12-16 05:54 +0000
                                                                                                                      Re: EU Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-12-16 12:47 -0500
                                                                                                                        Re: EU rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-16 19:57 +0000
                                                                                                                          Re: EU "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-17 13:27 +0100
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                                                                                                                      Re: EU scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-12-16 18:14 +0000
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                                                                                                                                Re: EU "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-18 23:26 +0100
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                                                                                                        Re: Recent history of vi The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-12 11:53 +0000
                                                                                                          Re: Recent history of vi Alexander Schreiber <als@usenet.thangorodrim.de> - 2025-12-12 20:27 +0100
                                                                                                            Yes,{, Prime} Minister (was: Re: Recent history of vi) Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-12 23:27 +0000
                                                                                                            Re: Recent history of vi "Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2025-12-13 15:55 +0000
                                                                                                              Re: Recent history of vi The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-15 18:38 +0000
                                                                                                                Re: Recent history of vi rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-15 22:40 +0000
                                                                                                                  Re: Recent history of vi Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-12-15 15:44 -0800
                                                                                                                    Re: Recent history of vi rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-16 01:59 +0000
                                                                                                                      Re: Recent history of vi The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-16 10:22 +0000
                                                                                                                    Re: Recent history of vi The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-16 10:18 +0000
                                                                                                                      Re: Recent history of vi rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-16 20:45 +0000
                                                                                                                        Re: Recent history of vi The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-17 10:14 +0000
                                                                                                                  Re: Recent history of vi The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-16 10:02 +0000
                                                                                                                    Re: Recent history of vi rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-16 20:13 +0000
                                                                                                                    Re: Recent history of vi Alexander Schreiber <als@usenet.thangorodrim.de> - 2025-12-17 13:59 +0100
                                                                                                  Re: Recent history of vi Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-12-17 07:06 +0000
                                                                                                Re: Recent history of vi Alexander Schreiber <als@usenet.thangorodrim.de> - 2025-12-10 23:06 +0100
                                                                                                  Re: Recent history of vi "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-11 19:38 +0100
                                                                                        Re: Recent history of vi rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-08 02:03 +0000
                                                                                          Re: Recent history of vi The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-08 08:41 +0000
                                                                                            Re: Recent history of vi Niklas Karlsson <nikke.karlsson@gmail.com> - 2025-12-12 07:09 +0000
                                                                                              Re: Recent history of vi The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-12 11:49 +0000
                                                                                  Re: Recent history of vi The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-07 20:14 +0000
                                                                                    Re: Recent history of vi Alexander Schreiber <als@usenet.thangorodrim.de> - 2025-12-07 22:56 +0100
                                                                                      Re: Recent history of vi The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-08 08:18 +0000
                                                                              Re: Unicode (was Re: Recent history of vi) Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-12-15 00:32 +0000
                                                                            Re: Unicode (was Re: Recent history of vi) Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-12-14 23:32 +0000
                                                                            Re: Recent history of vi Johnny Billquist <bqt@softjar.se> - 2025-12-15 10:52 +0100
                                                                          Re: Unicode, not Recent history of vi John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2025-12-05 01:59 +0000
                                                                            Re: Unicode, not Recent history of vi Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-05 10:14 +0000
                                                                            Re: Unicode, not Recent history of vi Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-05 10:35 +0000
                                                                            Re: Unicode, not Recent history of vi "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-05 12:05 +0100
                                                                            Re: Unicode, not Recent history of vi Andreas Eder <a_eder_muc@web.de> - 2025-12-06 16:41 +0100
                                                                            Re: Unicode, not Recent history of vi candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2025-12-08 18:40 +0000
                                                                  Re: Recent history of vi "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-22 20:25 +0100
                                                                    Re: Recent history of vi Johnny Billquist <bqt@softjar.se> - 2025-11-27 20:02 +0100
                                                                      Re: Recent history of vi "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-27 20:16 +0100
                                                                        Re: Recent history of vi Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-11-27 21:18 +0000
                                                                        Re: Recent history of vi Johnny Billquist <bqt@softjar.se> - 2025-12-03 13:38 +0100
                                                                          Re: Recent history of vi Eli the Bearded <*@eli.users.panix.com> - 2025-12-04 07:15 +0000
                                                              Re: Recent history of vi "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-19 02:37 +0100
                                                                ISO 8859-1 ("Latin 1") (was: Recent history of vi) Michael Bäuerle <michael.baeuerle@stz-e.de> - 2025-11-19 14:58 +0100
                                                                  Re: ISO 8859-1 ("Latin 1") (was: Recent history of vi) Eli the Bearded <*@eli.users.panix.com> - 2025-11-20 02:09 +0000
                                                                    Re: ISO 8859-1 ("Latin 1") Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2025-11-19 20:16 -0700
                                                                      Re: ISO 8859-1 ("Latin 1") Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-20 08:47 +0000
                                                                        Re: ISO 8859-1 ("Latin 1") The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-20 11:10 +0000
                                                                          Re: ISO 8859-1 ("Latin 1") Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-11-20 17:57 +0000
                                                                            Re: ISO 8859-1 ("Latin 1") Ralf Fassel <ralfixx@gmx.de> - 2025-11-21 12:24 +0100
                                                                Re: Recent history of vi Eric Pozharski <apple.universe@posteo.net> - 2025-11-19 13:02 +0000
                                                                  Re: Recent history of vi antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2025-11-23 16:25 +0000
                                                                    Re: Recent history of vi Eric Pozharski <apple.universe@posteo.net> - 2025-11-25 10:26 +0000
                                                                      Re: Recent history of vi Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-11-25 20:05 +0000
                                                                        Re: Recent history of vi c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-25 23:04 -0500
                                                                        Re: Recent history of vi Johnny Billquist <bqt@softjar.se> - 2025-11-27 20:10 +0100
                                                                          Re: Recent history of vi scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-11-27 20:19 +0000
                                                                            Re: Recent history of vi Johnny Billquist <bqt@softjar.se> - 2025-12-03 13:44 +0100
                                                                          Re: Recent history of vi Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-27 20:44 +0000
                                                                            Re: Recent history of vi Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-11-28 07:54 -0500
                                                                            Re: Recent history of vi Alexander Schreiber <als@usenet.thangorodrim.de> - 2025-11-28 22:10 +0100
                                                                              Re: Recent history of vi David Goodwin <david+usenet@zx.net.nz> - 2025-11-29 13:13 +1300
                                                                                Re: Recent history of vi Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-11-29 02:57 +0000
                                                                                Re: Recent history of vi "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-29 13:35 +0100
                                                                                  Re: Recent history of vi Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-29 13:45 +0000
                                                                                  Re: Recent history of vi Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-11-29 15:06 +0000
                                                                              Re: Recent history of vi The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-29 11:20 +0000
                                                                                Re: Recent history of vi Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2025-11-29 12:45 -0700
                                                                                  Re: Recent history of vi The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-30 10:37 +0000
                                                                                    Re: Recent history of vi Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-30 11:06 +0000
                                                                                      Re: Recent history of vi Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-11-30 16:20 +0000
                                                                                        Re: Recent history of vi Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-01 08:54 +0000
                                                                                          Re: Recent history of vi Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-12-13 08:22 +0000
                                                                                          Re: Recent history of vi Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-12-13 11:55 +0000
                                                                                            Re: Recent history of vi Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-13 14:44 +0000
                                                                                            Python "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-13 23:35 +0100
                                                                                              Re: Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-14 01:48 +0000
                                                                                                Re: Python drb@ihatespam.msu.edu (Dennis Boone) - 2025-12-14 20:00 +0000
                                                                                                  Re: Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-14 20:43 +0000
                                                                                                  Re: Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-15 02:40 -0500
                                                                                                    Re: Python The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-15 18:48 +0000
                                                                                                    Re: Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-15 21:43 +0000
                                                                                                  Re: Python The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-15 18:45 +0000
                                                                                                Re: Python The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-15 18:44 +0000
                                                                                                  Re: Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-15 22:17 +0000
                                                                                                  Re: Python Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-12-15 23:55 +0000
                                                                                                    Re: Python "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-19 22:57 +0100
                                                                                              Re: Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-13 23:27 -0500
                                                                                                Re: Python Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-12-14 11:56 +0000
                                                                                                  Re: Python Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-12-14 23:29 +0000
                                                                                                    Re: Python mm0fmf <none@invalid.com> - 2025-12-15 12:57 +0000
                                                                                                      Re: Python Alexander Schreiber <als@usenet.thangorodrim.de> - 2025-12-15 22:57 +0100
                                                                                                      Re: Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-15 22:31 -0500
                                                                                                        Re: Python Greg Ewing <greg.ewing@canterbury.ac.nz> - 2025-12-16 17:51 +1300
                                                                                                          Re: Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-16 08:32 +0000
                                                                                                      Re: Python Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-12-16 21:45 +0000
                                                                                                        Re: Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-17 01:54 +0000
                                                                                                          Re: Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-17 03:11 -0500
                                                                                                            Re: Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-17 19:17 +0000
                                                                                                              Re: Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-17 22:10 -0500
                                                                                                                Re: Python John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2025-12-18 03:28 +0000
                                                                                                                  Re: Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-17 23:02 -0500
                                                                                                                    Re: Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-18 06:54 +0000
                                                                                                                      Re: Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-18 04:25 -0500
                                                                                                                        Re: Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-18 19:22 +0000
                                                                                                                          Re: Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-19 01:14 -0500
                                                                                                                  Re: Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-18 06:44 +0000
                                                                                                                Re: Python Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2025-12-18 07:40 -0700
                                                                                                                  Re: Python Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-18 18:00 +0000
                                                                                                                    Re: Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-18 18:28 +0000
                                                                                                                    Re: Python Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2025-12-18 12:52 -0700
                                                                                                                      Re: Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-19 03:53 +0000
                                                                                                                    Re: Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-19 00:37 -0500
                                                                                                                    Re: Python "Michael F. Stemper" <michael.stemper@gmail.com> - 2026-03-04 10:32 -0600
                                                                                                                      Re: Python ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) - 2026-03-04 20:01 +0000
                                                                                                                        Re: Python "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-03-04 21:29 +0100
                                                                                                                          Re: Python Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-03-04 20:37 +0000
                                                                                                                          Re: Python Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-03-04 14:09 -0700
                                                                                                                            Re: Python Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-03-04 22:35 +0000
                                                                                                                              Re: Python Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-04 23:10 +0000
                                                                                                                              Re: Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-03-04 20:30 -0500
                                                                                                                              Re: Python Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-03-04 20:13 -0700
                                                                                                                                Re: Python Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-03-05 03:49 +0000
                                                                                                                                Re: Python Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-03-05 17:42 +0000
                                                                                                                                  Re: Python "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-03-05 20:02 +0100
                                                                                                                                    Re: Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-03-05 14:42 -0500
                                                                                                                                    Re: Python Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-06 00:12 +0000
                                                                                                                                      Re: Python Bob Eager <news0009@eager.cx> - 2026-03-06 09:02 +0000
                                                                                                                            Re: Python Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-03-05 02:44 +0000
                                                                                                                              Re: Python Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-03-05 03:50 +0000
                                                                                                                          Re: Python Piergiorgio Sartor <piergiorgio.sartor.this.should.not.be.used@nexgo.REMOVETHIS.de> - 2026-03-04 22:14 +0100
                                                                                                                            Re: Python The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-04 22:20 +0000
                                                                                                                  Re: Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-19 00:29 -0500
                                                                                                                  Re: Python "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-20 12:38 +0100
                                                                                                        Re: Python Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2025-12-17 16:17 -0500
                                                                                                          Re: Python Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-12-17 22:11 +0000
                                                                                                            Re: Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-17 22:18 -0500
                                                                                                              Re: Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-18 07:07 +0000
                                                                                                          Re: Python Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-17 22:13 +0000
                                                                                                            Re: Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-18 00:52 +0000
                                                                                                              Re: Python Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-12-18 08:03 +0100
                                                                                                                Re: Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-18 07:39 +0000
                                                                                                                  Re: Python scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-12-18 15:43 +0000
                                                                                                                    Re: Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-18 18:38 +0000
                                                                                                                      Re: Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-19 00:56 -0500
                                                                                                                        Re: Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-19 08:18 +0000
                                                                                                                          Re: Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-19 03:30 -0500
                                                                                                                            Re: Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-19 19:38 +0000
                                                                                                                              Re: Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-20 04:01 -0500
                                                                                                                                Re: Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-21 04:08 +0000
                                                                                                                                  Re: Python "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-27 22:36 +0100
                                                                                                                Re: Python The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-18 09:55 +0000
                                                                                                                  Re: Python Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-12-18 11:19 +0100
                                                                                                                    Re: Python The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-18 12:36 +0000
                                                                                                  Re: Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-14 23:36 -0500
                                                                                                    Re: Python candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2025-12-19 13:30 +0000
                                                                                                      Re: Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-19 19:50 +0000
                                                                                                        Re: Python scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-12-19 20:03 +0000
                                                                                                          Re: Python Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-12-19 21:00 +0000
                                                                                                            Re: Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-20 04:16 -0500
                                                                                                          Re: Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-20 04:15 -0500
                                                                                                            Re: Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-21 04:14 +0000
                                                                                                              Re: Python Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-12-21 09:06 -0500
                                                                                                                Re: Python drb@ihatespam.msu.edu (Dennis Boone) - 2025-12-21 18:31 +0000
                                                                                                                Re: Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-21 21:00 +0000
                                                                                                                  Re: Python Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-12-22 07:29 +0100
                                                                                                                  Linux at work in the old days Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-12-22 07:20 -0500
                                                                                                                    Re: Linux at work in the old days rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-22 19:18 +0000
                                                                                                                      Re: Linux at work in the old days c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-23 01:41 -0500
                                                                                                                        Re: Linux at work in the old days Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2025-12-23 07:26 -0700
                                                                                                                          Re: Linux at work in the old days Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-12-23 20:21 +0000
                                                                                                                  Re: naughty Python John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2025-12-22 21:26 +0000
                                                                                                                    Re: naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-23 00:49 +0000
                                                                                                                    Re: naughty Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-23 01:55 -0500
                                                                                                                      Re: naughty Python The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-23 11:21 +0000
                                                                                                                        Re: naughty Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-23 06:34 -0500
                                                                                                                          Re: naughty Python The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-23 12:38 +0000
                                                                                                                          Re: naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-23 20:28 +0000
                                                                                                                            Re: naughty Python Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-12-23 14:21 -0800
                                                                                                                              Re: naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-23 23:55 +0000
                                                                                                                                Re: naughty Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-24 05:33 -0500
                                                                                                                                  The power of languages (Re: naughty Python) Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> - 2025-12-24 15:49 +0000
                                                                                                                                    Re: The power of languages (Re: naughty Python) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-12-24 23:28 +0000
                                                                                                                                      Re: The power of languages (Re: naughty Python) Thomas Prufer <prufer.public@mnet-online.de.invalid> - 2025-12-27 15:29 +0100
                                                                                                                                        Re: The power of languages (Re: naughty Python) Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-12-27 21:21 +0000
                                                                                                                                          Re: The power of languages (Re: naughty Python) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-27 23:17 +0000
                                                                                                                                            Re: The power of languages (Re: naughty Python) Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> - 2025-12-28 04:09 +0000
                                                                                                                                            Re: The power of languages (Re: naughty Python) Bob Vloon <usenet@bananacorp.nl.invalid> - 2025-12-28 18:00 +0000
                                                                                                                                  Re: naughty Python "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-28 22:22 +0100
                                                                                                                                    Re: naughty Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-28 21:06 -0500
                                                                                                                                      Re: naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-29 04:04 +0000
                                                                                                                                        Re: naughty Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-29 01:07 -0500
                                                                                                                                          Re: naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-29 06:38 +0000
                                                                                                                                            Re: naughty Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-29 02:31 -0500
                                                                                                                                              Re: naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-29 17:09 +0000
                                                                                                                                          Re: naughty Python The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-29 13:35 +0000
                                                                                                                                            Re: naughty Python Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2025-12-29 07:33 -0700
                                                                                                                                              Re: naughty Python Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-12-29 21:59 +0000
                                                                                                                                                Re: naughty Python John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-12-29 15:40 -0800
                                                                                                                                                  Re: naughty Python Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-12-30 01:30 +0000
                                                                                                                                                    Re: naughty Python John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-12-30 08:57 -0800
                                                                                                                                                      Re: naughty Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-30 12:51 -0500
                                                                                                                                                      Re: naughty Python The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-30 19:00 +0000
                                                                                                                                                      Re: naughty Python Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-12-30 19:06 +0000
                                                                                                                                                  Re: naughty Python "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-30 09:38 +0100
                                                                                                                                                  Re: naughty Python The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-30 11:11 +0000
                                                                                                                                                    Re: naughty Python Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2025-12-30 07:38 -0700
                                                                                                                                                      Re: naughty Python The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-30 15:04 +0000
                                                                                                                                                        Innovation (was Re: naughty Python) Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> - 2025-12-30 21:40 +0000
                                                                                                                                                    Re: naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-30 22:02 +0000
                                                                                                                                                Re: naughty Python Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2025-12-29 19:23 -0700
                                                                                                                                                  Re: naughty Python Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-12-30 03:53 +0000
                                                                                                                                                    OT: incompetence of companies (was: Re: naughty Python) Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-30 10:03 +0000
                                                                                                                                                      Re: OT: incompetence of companies The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-30 11:12 +0000
                                                                                                                                                Re: naughty Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-30 03:14 -0500
                                                                                                                                                  Re: naughty Python The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-30 11:18 +0000
                                                                                                                                                  Re: naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-30 21:49 +0000
                                                                                                                                                    Re: naughty Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-30 19:47 -0500
                                                                                                                                                      Re: naughty Python Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-12-31 01:01 +0000
                                                                                                                                                        Re: naughty Python Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-12-31 03:07 +0000
                                                                                                                                                          Re: naughty Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-30 23:45 -0500
                                                                                                                                                            Re: naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-31 07:12 +0000
                                                                                                                                                        Re: naughty Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-30 23:11 -0500
                                                                                                                                                          Re: naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-31 07:57 +0000
                                                                                                                                                            Re: naughty Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-31 09:13 -0500
                                                                                                                                                              Re: naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-31 19:13 +0000
                                                                                                                                                          Re: naughty Python Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-12-31 18:55 +0000
                                                                                                                                                            Re: naughty Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-31 14:21 -0500
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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Re: naughty Pascal "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-01-20 14:26 +0100
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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Re: naughty Pascal Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2026-01-10 12:14 -0500
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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Re: naughty Pascal Niklas Karlsson <nikke.karlsson@gmail.com> - 2026-01-11 17:44 +0000
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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Naughty Cat Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2026-01-13 14:29 -0500
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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Tinned tuna [Was: naughty Pascal] "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-01-20 14:58 +0100
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Oil down the drain [Was: naughty Pascal] "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-01-20 14:53 +0100
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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Re: naughty Pascal Niklas Karlsson <nikke.karlsson@gmail.com> - 2026-01-11 21:38 +0000
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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Re: naughty Pascal rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-14 01:01 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Re: naughty Pascal scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-01-16 21:40 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Re: naughty Pascal Daniel <me@sc1f1dan.com> - 2026-01-18 12:30 -0800
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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Re: naughty Pascal The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-13 09:23 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Re: naughty Pascal John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-01-12 08:25 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Re: naughty Pascal rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-12 18:22 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Re: naughty Pascal The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-11 11:26 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Re: naughty Pascal rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-11 21:35 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Re: naughty Pascal The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-12 11:57 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Re: naughty Pascal Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-01-12 23:41 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Re: naughty Pascal rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-13 06:32 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Re: naughty Pascal Harold Stevens <wookie@aspen.localdomain> - 2026-01-13 04:35 -0600
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Re: naughty Pascal "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-01-20 15:38 +0100
                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Re: naughty Pascal John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-01-09 09:36 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Re: naughty Pascal rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-09 06:58 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Re: naughty Pascal Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2026-01-09 09:19 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                                  Re: naughty Pascal Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-01-07 06:33 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                                    Re: naughty Pascal The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-07 09:55 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                                    Re: naughty Pascal rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-07 21:46 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                                      Re: naughty Pascal Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-01-08 04:57 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                                    Re: naughty Pascal c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-07 18:48 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                              Re: naughty Pascal Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-01-07 06:33 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                              Re: naughty Pascal Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-01-07 07:31 -0700
                                                                                                                                                                                        Re: naughty Pascal c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-05 23:18 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                          Re: naughty Pascal Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-01-06 07:42 -0700
                                                                                                                                                                                            Re: naughty Pascal Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-06 20:01 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                              Re: naughty Pascal Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-01-07 07:27 -0700
                                                                                                                                                                                            Re: naughty Pascal antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2026-01-06 22:32 +0000
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                                                                                                                                                                                                          Re: naughty Pascal cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2026-01-10 03:12 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                                          Re: naughty Pascal Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-01-10 19:39 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                                            Re: naughty useless code (was Re: naughty Pascal) Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-10 20:52 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                                              Re: naughty useless code (was Re: naughty Pascal) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-11 00:02 +0000
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                                                                                                                                                                                                          Re: naughty Pascal Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-01-09 08:13 -0700
                                                                                                                                                                                                            Re: Naughty PL/I (was Re: naughty Pascal) Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-09 18:38 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                                    Re: naughty Pascal Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2026-01-10 14:40 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                                      Re: naughty Pascal Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-10 20:50 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                                        Re: naughty Pascal c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-11 02:00 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                                          Re: naughty Pascal Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-01-11 16:55 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                                            Re: Naughty Fortran (was Re: naughty Pascal) Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-11 20:24 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                                              Re: Naughty Fortran (was Re: naughty Pascal) c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-11 18:00 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                                          Re: naughty Pascal rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-11 21:31 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                                  Re: naughty Pascal rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-08 19:49 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                                    Re: naughty Pascal c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-08 20:43 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                                      Re: naughty Pascal Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-01-10 19:39 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                                        Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-10 20:47 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                                          Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-11 00:27 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                                            Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-01-10 18:41 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                                              Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-01-10 20:06 -0700
                                                                                                                                                                                                                Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-10 22:44 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-01-11 07:40 -0700
                                                                                                                                                                                                                Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-01-11 03:50 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) Harold Stevens <wookie@aspen.localdomain> - 2026-01-11 05:55 -0600
                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) Pancho <Pancho.Jones@protonmail.com> - 2026-01-11 14:18 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) Andreas Eder <a_eder_muc@web.de> - 2026-01-11 17:00 +0100
                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-11 20:44 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-12 11:49 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-01-12 07:52 -0700
                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-01-12 17:03 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-12 19:57 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-01-12 20:05 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) Niklas Karlsson <nikke.karlsson@gmail.com> - 2026-01-12 20:16 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-13 05:01 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) Niklas Karlsson <nikke.karlsson@gmail.com> - 2026-01-13 06:31 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-13 08:09 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) Niklas Karlsson <nikke.karlsson@gmail.com> - 2026-01-13 14:21 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-13 17:54 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-13 04:46 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-13 04:31 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-12 19:56 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-01-13 00:24 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-13 00:36 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-12 23:04 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                                              Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-11 01:52 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                                                Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-01-10 23:34 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-11 02:50 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2026-01-11 14:55 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2026-01-12 02:42 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-01-12 07:50 -0700
                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-01-12 09:14 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-01-12 13:12 -0700
                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) Harold Stevens <wookie@aspen.localdomain> - 2026-01-12 14:48 -0600
                                                                                                                                                                                                                Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-01-11 07:48 -0700
                                                                                                                                                                                                        Re: naughty Pascal antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2026-01-11 01:32 +0000
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                                                                                                                                                                                          Re: naughty Pascal rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-06 19:22 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                            Re: naughty Pascal "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-01-07 13:41 +0100
                                                                                                                                                                                      Re: naughty Pascal Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-05 21:42 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                        Re: naughty Pascal Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-01-05 20:33 -0700
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                                                                                                                                                                                        Re: naughty Pascal Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-06 04:09 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                        Re: naughty Pascal The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-06 10:10 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                          Re: naughty Pascal Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-01-06 07:46 -0700
                                                                                                                                                                                            Re: naughty Pascal The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-06 17:19 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                              Re: naughty Pascal Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-01-06 12:39 -0700
                                                                                                                                                                                              Re: naughty Pascal cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2026-01-06 19:56 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                                Re: naughty Pascal Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-01-07 06:33 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                                  Re: naughty Pascal The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-07 09:44 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                            Re: naughty Pascal Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-06 19:57 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                              Re: naughty Pascal scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-01-06 21:53 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                          Re: naughty Pascal rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-06 19:17 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                          Re: naughty Pascal c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-06 16:06 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                            Re: naughty Pascal cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2026-01-06 23:44 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                              Re: naughty Pascal The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-07 09:57 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                            Re: naughty Pascal The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-07 09:56 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                              Re: naughty Pascal rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-07 22:08 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                                Re: naughty Pascal The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-08 11:21 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                              Re: naughty Pascal Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-01-08 04:57 +0000
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                                                                                                                                                                                                Re: naughty Pascal The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-08 11:26 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                                Re: naughty Pascal rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-08 19:59 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                                  Re: naughty Pascal Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-01-08 22:45 +0000
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                                                                                                                                                                                                  Re: naughty Pascal scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-01-08 20:09 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                                    Re: naughty Pascal rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-09 02:02 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                                      Re: naughty Pascal The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-09 10:05 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                                        Re: naughty Pascal scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-01-09 16:02 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                                          Re: naughty Pascal The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-09 18:48 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                                            Re: naughty Pascal rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-09 20:27 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                                              Re: naughty Pascal The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-10 10:15 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                        Re: naughty Pascal scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-01-06 15:31 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                      Re: naughty Pascal Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-06 10:39 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                        Re: naughty Pascal John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-01-06 09:25 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                    Re: naughty Pascal scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-01-05 20:35 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                      Re: naughty Pascal "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-01-06 13:25 +0100
                                                                                                                                                                                        Re: naughty Pascal Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-06 20:00 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                              Re: naughty Python Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-01-02 14:51 -0700
                                                                                                                                                                      Re: naughty Python The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-01 21:00 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                        Re: naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-01 21:43 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                        Re: naughty Python antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2026-01-01 23:54 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                          Re: naughty Python Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-01-01 20:14 -0700
                                                                                                                                                                            Re: naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-02 06:03 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                            Re: naughty Python The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-02 11:02 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                          Re: naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-02 05:59 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                            Re: naughty Python ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) - 2026-01-02 06:01 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                              Re: naughty Python Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-02 06:58 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                Re: naughty Python ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) - 2026-01-02 17:14 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                  Re: naughty Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-02 14:58 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                    Re: naughty Python ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) - 2026-01-02 21:11 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                            Re: naughty Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-02 05:37 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                              Re: naughty Python The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-02 11:04 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                              Re: naughty Python "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-01-02 12:24 +0100
                                                                                                                                                                                Re: naughty Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-02 06:51 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                              Re: naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-02 19:56 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                          Re: naughty Python The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-02 10:59 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                            Re: naughty Python "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-01-02 12:27 +0100
                                                                                                                                                                              Re: naughty Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-02 06:54 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                Re: naughty Python The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-02 11:57 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                  Re: naughty Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-02 07:10 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                  Re: naughty Python "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-01-02 14:34 +0100
                                                                                                                                                                                  Re: naughty Python "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-01-02 14:38 +0100
                                                                                                                                                                            Re: naughty Python John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-01-02 08:49 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                              Re: C structure portability, naughty Python John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2026-01-02 18:26 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                Re: C structure portability, naughty Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-02 15:08 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                  Re: C structure portability, naughty Python John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2026-01-02 20:32 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                    Re: C structure portability, naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-03 00:08 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                      Re: C structure portability, naughty Python John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2026-01-03 02:47 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                        Re: C structure portability, naughty Python Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2026-01-03 07:03 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                          Re: C structure portability, naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-03 19:43 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                            Re: C structure portability, naughty Python Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2026-01-04 06:42 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                              Re: C structure portability, naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-04 20:29 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                            Re: C structure portability, naughty Python "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-01-04 15:14 +0100
                                                                                                                                                                                              Re: C structure portability, naughty Python Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2026-01-04 09:43 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                                Re: C structure portability, naughty Python Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-01-04 19:41 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                                  Re: Naughty C♯ Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-04 21:18 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                                    Re: Naughty C♯ c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-04 19:04 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                                      Re: Naughty C♯ rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-05 03:55 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                                        Re: Naughty C♯ The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-05 11:29 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                                          Re: Naughty C♯ Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2026-01-05 06:59 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                                        Re: Naughty C♯ Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2026-01-05 06:55 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                                          Re: Naughty C♯ rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-05 17:43 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                                            Re: Naughty C♯ Niklas Karlsson <nikke.karlsson@gmail.com> - 2026-01-05 18:08 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                                              Re: Naughty C♯ rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-05 20:32 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                                              Re: Naughty C♯ Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2026-01-05 17:25 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                                                Re: Naughty C♯ Pancho <Pancho.Jones@protonmail.com> - 2026-01-06 07:55 +0000
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#80202 — Re: naughty Python

FromLars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com>
Date2025-12-31 22:34 +0000
SubjectRe: naughty Python
Message-ID<slrn10lb976.30k3p.lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com>
In reply to#80185
On 2025-12-31, c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> wrote:
>    Can't wait to see what the AIs are cranking out in
>    a few years ... 29 levels all bunched together into
>    one gigantic line ? :-)

Shades of APL.
-- 
Lars Poulsen - an old geek in Santa Barbara, California

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#80216 — Re: naughty Python

Fromc186282 <c186282@nnada.net>
Date2025-12-31 22:32 -0500
SubjectRe: naughty Python
Message-ID<TvWcnYG31Nd7d8j0nZ2dnZfqn_QAAAAA@giganews.com>
In reply to#80202
On 12/31/25 17:34, Lars Poulsen wrote:
> On 2025-12-31, c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> wrote:
>>     Can't wait to see what the AIs are cranking out in
>>     a few years ... 29 levels all bunched together into
>>     one gigantic line ? :-)
> 
> Shades of APL.

   I remember that ... the main stats guy in the office
   became convinced it was the answer to all his needs.
   As I recall, even he dumped it in a few months  :-)

   There *is* "GNU APL" if you are a masochist.

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#80203 — Re: naughty Python

FromThe Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid>
Date2025-12-31 22:35 +0000
SubjectRe: naughty Python
Message-ID<10j48fv$2t1h9$12@dont-email.me>
In reply to#80185
On 31/12/2025 19:21, c186282 wrote:
> I've writ stuff with five or six levels of nesting
>    but don't like it, usually if/then/else stuff. Oft
>    re-did it later to be more easy to follow. IMHO
>    readability/comprehensibility is as important as
>    functionally correct code.

100% agree.

Often write little functions that are only called once. Merely to 
lexically separate atomic functional blocks.

No idea whether the compiler/linker inlines them or not.

There is nothing worse than making top level decisions followed by some 
nitty detail to detect some low level error.

e.g. assume a call to allocate memory always works or the call will do 
the appropriate jump to a global error handler to abort things cleanly.

The point of structure was supposed to be to elucidate program flow, not 
obscure it with elegant formally correct cruft.



-- 
“It is dangerous to be right in matters on which the established 
authorities are wrong.”

― Voltaire, The Age of Louis XIV

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#80213 — Re: naughty Python

Fromc186282 <c186282@nnada.net>
Date2025-12-31 22:07 -0500
SubjectRe: naughty Python
Message-ID<EEednc17DsF7ecj0nZ2dnZfqn_WdnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#80203
On 12/31/25 17:35, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
> On 31/12/2025 19:21, c186282 wrote:
>> I've writ stuff with five or six levels of nesting
>>    but don't like it, usually if/then/else stuff. Oft
>>    re-did it later to be more easy to follow. IMHO
>>    readability/comprehensibility is as important as
>>    functionally correct code.
> 
> 100% agree.
> 
> Often write little functions that are only called once. Merely to 
> lexically separate atomic functional blocks.
> 
> No idea whether the compiler/linker inlines them or not.
> 
> There is nothing worse than making top level decisions followed by some 
> nitty detail to detect some low level error.
> 
> e.g. assume a call to allocate memory always works or the call will do 
> the appropriate jump to a global error handler to abort things cleanly.
> 
> The point of structure was supposed to be to elucidate program flow, not 
> obscure it with elegant formally correct cruft.


   Agree.

   As I've said before, I'm still quite fond of Pascal and
   write apps of various size in it (oft first proto-ed
   in Python). The structure is 'elegant', but you CAN
   carry it TOO far, to where it gets in the way instead
   of helping things.

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#80227 — Re: naughty Python

FromThe Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid>
Date2026-01-01 12:49 +0000
SubjectRe: naughty Python
Message-ID<10j5qgf$3etcd$6@dont-email.me>
In reply to#80213
On 01/01/2026 03:07, c186282 wrote:
> On 12/31/25 17:35, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>> On 31/12/2025 19:21, c186282 wrote:
>>> I've writ stuff with five or six levels of nesting
>>>    but don't like it, usually if/then/else stuff. Oft
>>>    re-did it later to be more easy to follow. IMHO
>>>    readability/comprehensibility is as important as
>>>    functionally correct code.
>>
>> 100% agree.
>>
>> Often write little functions that are only called once. Merely to 
>> lexically separate atomic functional blocks.
>>
>> No idea whether the compiler/linker inlines them or not.
>>
>> There is nothing worse than making top level decisions followed by 
>> some nitty detail to detect some low level error.
>>
>> e.g. assume a call to allocate memory always works or the call will do 
>> the appropriate jump to a global error handler to abort things cleanly.
>>
>> The point of structure was supposed to be to elucidate program flow, 
>> not obscure it with elegant formally correct cruft.
> 
> 
>    Agree.
> 
>    As I've said before, I'm still quite fond of Pascal and
>    write apps of various size in it (oft first proto-ed
>    in Python). The structure is 'elegant', but you CAN
>    carry it TOO far, to where it gets in the way instead
>    of helping things.
> 
My one and only  experience of trying to make Pascal do what was trivial 
in 'C' led me to resolve never ever to touch it again.

If you are trying to write - as it turned out I was - a disk driver in 
pascal, where a given sector may be a byte stream, a series of 16 bit 
integers,  or a structure defined by thee first few bytes in the sector, 
you end up with a massive union that is so cumbersome it is almost 
impossible to read - let alone use.

C's ability to say if this byte is such and such then what follows may 
be considered to be a structure, or else 17 integers, or else a text 
string....the point being that the people who constructed the software 
that wrote to the (ram) disk didn't write in Pascal. They wrote in 
Assembler. They had AFAICT ripped off CP/M.
I threw the pascal out and rewrote everything in a French  B & B over 
the weekend.  In C. Probably the best work I ever did.

For which the guy who I did it for didn't pay me till I took him to court.

Whereas the best money I ever made was to go to London and get paid £450 
to snip the leg on one capacitor...


-- 
“It is dangerous to be right in matters on which the established 
authorities are wrong.”

― Voltaire, The Age of Louis XIV

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#80235 — Re: naughty Python

FromPeter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com>
Date2026-01-01 07:28 -0700
SubjectRe: naughty Python
Message-ID<10j60bb$3hhps$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#80227
On 1/1/26 05:49, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
> On 01/01/2026 03:07, c186282 wrote:
>> On 12/31/25 17:35, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>>> On 31/12/2025 19:21, c186282 wrote:
>>>> I've writ stuff with five or six levels of nesting
>>>>    but don't like it, usually if/then/else stuff. Oft
>>>>    re-did it later to be more easy to follow. IMHO
>>>>    readability/comprehensibility is as important as
>>>>    functionally correct code.
>>>
>>> 100% agree.
>>>
>>> Often write little functions that are only called once. Merely to 
>>> lexically separate atomic functional blocks.
>>>
>>> No idea whether the compiler/linker inlines them or not.
>>>
>>> There is nothing worse than making top level decisions followed by 
>>> some nitty detail to detect some low level error.
>>>
>>> e.g. assume a call to allocate memory always works or the call will 
>>> do the appropriate jump to a global error handler to abort things 
>>> cleanly.
>>>
>>> The point of structure was supposed to be to elucidate program flow, 
>>> not obscure it with elegant formally correct cruft.
>>
>>
>>    Agree.
>>
>>    As I've said before, I'm still quite fond of Pascal and
>>    write apps of various size in it (oft first proto-ed
>>    in Python). The structure is 'elegant', but you CAN
>>    carry it TOO far, to where it gets in the way instead
>>    of helping things.
>>
> My one and only  experience of trying to make Pascal do what was trivial 
> in 'C' led me to resolve never ever to touch it again.
> 
> If you are trying to write - as it turned out I was - a disk driver in 
> pascal, where a given sector may be a byte stream, a series of 16 bit 
> integers,  or a structure defined by thee first few bytes in the sector, 
> you end up with a massive union that is so cumbersome it is almost 
> impossible to read - let alone use.

Doesn't Pascal have variant records?

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#80237 — Re: naughty Python

From"Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid>
Date2026-01-01 15:55 +0100
SubjectRe: naughty Python
Message-ID<lgei2mx0f8.ln2@Telcontar.valinor>
In reply to#80235
On 2026-01-01 15:28, Peter Flass wrote:
> On 1/1/26 05:49, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>> On 01/01/2026 03:07, c186282 wrote:
>>> On 12/31/25 17:35, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>>>> On 31/12/2025 19:21, c186282 wrote:


>>>    Agree.
>>>
>>>    As I've said before, I'm still quite fond of Pascal and
>>>    write apps of various size in it (oft first proto-ed
>>>    in Python). The structure is 'elegant', but you CAN
>>>    carry it TOO far, to where it gets in the way instead
>>>    of helping things.
>>>
>> My one and only  experience of trying to make Pascal do what was 
>> trivial in 'C' led me to resolve never ever to touch it again.
>>
>> If you are trying to write - as it turned out I was - a disk driver in 
>> pascal, where a given sector may be a byte stream, a series of 16 bit 
>> integers,  or a structure defined by thee first few bytes in the 
>> sector, you end up with a massive union that is so cumbersome it is 
>> almost impossible to read - let alone use.
> 
> Doesn't Pascal have variant records?
> 

Free Pascal at least does.

https://www.freepascal.org/docs-html/ref/refsu15.html


I have a book somewhere that came with a floppy, and it had several 
examples of using files with variant parts. It was easy.



-- 
Cheers, Carlos.
ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;

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#80287 — Re: naughty Python

Fromc186282 <c186282@nnada.net>
Date2026-01-02 02:40 -0500
SubjectRe: naughty Python
Message-ID<7cadnTBwKKzA68r0nZ2dnZfqn_idnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#80237
On 1/1/26 09:55, Carlos E.R. wrote:
> On 2026-01-01 15:28, Peter Flass wrote:
>> On 1/1/26 05:49, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>>> On 01/01/2026 03:07, c186282 wrote:
>>>> On 12/31/25 17:35, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>>>>> On 31/12/2025 19:21, c186282 wrote:
> 
> 
>>>>    Agree.
>>>>
>>>>    As I've said before, I'm still quite fond of Pascal and
>>>>    write apps of various size in it (oft first proto-ed
>>>>    in Python). The structure is 'elegant', but you CAN
>>>>    carry it TOO far, to where it gets in the way instead
>>>>    of helping things.
>>>>
>>> My one and only  experience of trying to make Pascal do what was 
>>> trivial in 'C' led me to resolve never ever to touch it again.
>>>
>>> If you are trying to write - as it turned out I was - a disk driver 
>>> in pascal, where a given sector may be a byte stream, a series of 16 
>>> bit integers,  or a structure defined by thee first few bytes in the 
>>> sector, you end up with a massive union that is so cumbersome it is 
>>> almost impossible to read - let alone use.
>>
>> Doesn't Pascal have variant records?
>>
> 
> Free Pascal at least does.
> 
> https://www.freepascal.org/docs-html/ref/refsu15.html

   'Variants' date WAY back, maybe to the original Pascal.

   DO have the old M$/IBM multi-pass compiler in a VM ...
   I'll have to check if IT does 'variant'. "Turbo"
   decidedly HAD variant records.

> I have a book somewhere that came with a floppy, and it had several 
> examples of using files with variant parts. It was easy.

   For the disk info mentioned, both 'C' and Pascal WILL
   deliver it ... just slightly different formats and
   'feel'. Basically eqiv FUNCTION.

   Pascal was not a 'theoretical' lang ... Prof Nick
   actually meant it to WORK in the real world.

   The old Algol ... no I/O ... a 'theoretical' lang.
   DID improve, but too late.

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#80334 — Re: naughty Python

Fromrbowman <bowman@montana.com>
Date2026-01-02 19:29 +0000
SubjectRe: naughty Python
Message-ID<mrqklnF3b8bU2@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#80287
On Fri, 2 Jan 2026 02:40:13 -0500, c186282 wrote:


>    Pascal was not a 'theoretical' lang ... Prof Nick actually meant it
>    to WORK in the real world.

I disagree with that. Wirth was mostly concerned with constructing 
didactic languages. The joke about the original implementatino was it is a 
good language for telling itself secrets since there is no i/o.

Students learned it and extended it when they had to use it in the real 
world. Lisp has a similar history. Common Lisp and its descendants violate 
the purity of the Lisp concept but get things done.

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#80348 — Re: naughty Python

Fromc186282 <c186282@nnada.net>
Date2026-01-02 15:18 -0500
SubjectRe: naughty Python
Message-ID<P9ucnVOvusaFtcX0nZ2dnZfqnPednZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#80334
On 1/2/26 14:29, rbowman wrote:
> On Fri, 2 Jan 2026 02:40:13 -0500, c186282 wrote:
> 
> 
>>     Pascal was not a 'theoretical' lang ... Prof Nick actually meant it
>>     to WORK in the real world.
> 
> I disagree with that. Wirth was mostly concerned with constructing
> didactic languages. The joke about the original implementatino was it is a
> good language for telling itself secrets since there is no i/o.

   Must have been a damned early version.

   Old ALGOL had no I/O however. Didn't show up
   until what, '68 ?

> Students learned it and extended it when they had to use it in the real
> world. Lisp has a similar history. Common Lisp and its descendants violate
> the purity of the Lisp concept but get things done.

   "There's nothing pure in this world ..."

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#80360 — Re: naughty Pascal

From"Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid>
Date2026-01-02 22:22 +0100
SubjectRe: naughty Pascal
Message-ID<qgpl2mx8dc.ln2@Telcontar.valinor>
In reply to#80348
On 2026-01-02 21:18, c186282 wrote:
> On 1/2/26 14:29, rbowman wrote:
>> On Fri, 2 Jan 2026 02:40:13 -0500, c186282 wrote:
>>
>>
>>>     Pascal was not a 'theoretical' lang ... Prof Nick actually meant it
>>>     to WORK in the real world.
>>
>> I disagree with that. Wirth was mostly concerned with constructing
>> didactic languages. The joke about the original implementatino was it 
>> is a
>> good language for telling itself secrets since there is no i/o.
> 
>    Must have been a damned early version.

I certainly studied i/o in what they told us was standard pascal, using 
the original Wirth book.

Maybe depends on how you define i/o?

> 
>    Old ALGOL had no I/O however. Didn't show up
>    until what, '68 ?
> 
>> Students learned it and extended it when they had to use it in the real
>> world. Lisp has a similar history. Common Lisp and its descendants 
>> violate
>> the purity of the Lisp concept but get things done.
> 
>    "There's nothing pure in this world ..."
> 


-- 
Cheers, Carlos.
ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;

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#80400 — Re: naughty Pascal

FromThe Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid>
Date2026-01-03 08:31 +0000
SubjectRe: naughty Pascal
Message-ID<10jak55$13ji1$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#80360
On 02/01/2026 21:22, Carlos E.R. wrote:
> I certainly studied i/o in *what they told us* was standard pascal,
> using the original Wirth book.

(a) What they tell you is not always true.
(b) What is 'standard' is a moveable feast...

...google sez...

"The statement "Pascal has no I/O" originates from
Brian Kernighan’s 1981 essay, "Why Pascal is Not My Favorite Programming
Language".

Kernighan argued that the original 1970 definition of Pascal was
severely limited for systems programming because:

     No Low-Level Access: The language lacked a way to override its
strict type system, making it impossible to write its own I/O systems or
memory allocators *within the language itself*.

     Fixed Array Sizes: Because array size was part of the type, a
function could not be written to handle strings or arrays of different
lengths, complicating general-purpose file I/O.

     Lack of Portability: Standard Pascal’s I/O was considered
"primitive," and any real-world use required implementation-specific
extensions that broke portability between compilers."

-- 
“But what a weak barrier is truth when it stands in the way of an
hypothesis!”

Mary Wollstonecraft

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#80427 — Re: naughty Pascal

Fromrbowman <bowman@montana.com>
Date2026-01-03 20:12 +0000
SubjectRe: naughty Pascal
Message-ID<mrtbgpFh1ovU3@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#80400
On Sat, 3 Jan 2026 08:31:33 +0000, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

>      No Low-Level Access: The language lacked a way to override its
> strict type system, making it impossible to write its own I/O systems or
> memory allocators *within the language itself*.

The University of Maine used Pascal as a didactic language and most of the 
engineers at Sprague Electric were from UM. I can't remember the term but 
I wrote several dlls, module, or whatever they were called that allowed 
Pascal to do stuff like gather process data from HP instrumentation, 
control robotic arms, and other real world activities. Hey, it was 
money...

It is depressing that many companies I either worked for directly or as a 
hired gun have wiki articles starting with

"Sprague Electric Company was an electronic component maker"

"Sylvania Electric Products Inc. was an East Coast American manufacturer 
of electrical and electronic equipment,"

"General Electric Company (GE) was an American multinational conglomerate"

It isn't even the usual X was bought by Y was bought by Z. They're gone 
completely although the GE trademark does live on in GE Aerospace. Also 
gone are all the jobs the companies provided.




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#80469 — Re: naughty Pascal

FromPeter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com>
Date2026-01-04 07:56 -0700
SubjectRe: naughty Pascal
Message-ID<10jdv3a$22nf7$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#80427
On 1/3/26 13:12, rbowman wrote:
> On Sat, 3 Jan 2026 08:31:33 +0000, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
> 
>>       No Low-Level Access: The language lacked a way to override its
>> strict type system, making it impossible to write its own I/O systems or
>> memory allocators *within the language itself*.
> 
> The University of Maine used Pascal as a didactic language and most of the
> engineers at Sprague Electric were from UM. I can't remember the term but
> I wrote several dlls, module, or whatever they were called that allowed
> Pascal to do stuff like gather process data from HP instrumentation,
> control robotic arms, and other real world activities. Hey, it was
> money...
> 
> It is depressing that many companies I either worked for directly or as a
> hired gun have wiki articles starting with
> 
> "Sprague Electric Company was an electronic component maker"
> 
> "Sylvania Electric Products Inc. was an East Coast American manufacturer
> of electrical and electronic equipment,"
> 
> "General Electric Company (GE) was an American multinational conglomerate"
> 
> It isn't even the usual X was bought by Y was bought by Z. They're gone
> completely although the GE trademark does live on in GE Aerospace. Also
> gone are all the jobs the companies provided.
> 

I thought GE was still going. Besides aerospace, is GE Porwer Systems 
still running (turbines, generators, and such)? I lived in the general 
vicinity of Schenectady for many years and had family that worked there. 
I know GE Plastics in Pittsfield and Waterford was sold off (I had a gig 
there for a while, GE-400 system). MAO had something to do with nuclear 
subs. I know the appliance division left a long time ago, and I'm not 
even going to mention the Computer Division here in Phoenix.

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#80473 — Re: naughty Pascal

FromDon_from_AZ <djatechNOSPAM@comcast.net.invalid>
Date2026-01-04 09:22 -0700
SubjectRe: naughty Pascal
Message-ID<87ldidfivo.fsf@comcast.net.invalid>
In reply to#80469
Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> writes:

> On 1/3/26 13:12, rbowman wrote:
>> On Sat, 3 Jan 2026 08:31:33 +0000, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>> 
>>>       No Low-Level Access: The language lacked a way to override its
>>> strict type system, making it impossible to write its own I/O systems or
>>> memory allocators *within the language itself*.
>> The University of Maine used Pascal as a didactic language and most
>> of the
>> engineers at Sprague Electric were from UM. I can't remember the term but
>> I wrote several dlls, module, or whatever they were called that allowed
>> Pascal to do stuff like gather process data from HP instrumentation,
>> control robotic arms, and other real world activities. Hey, it was
>> money...
>> It is depressing that many companies I either worked for directly or
>> as a
>> hired gun have wiki articles starting with
>> "Sprague Electric Company was an electronic component maker"
>> "Sylvania Electric Products Inc. was an East Coast American
>> manufacturer
>> of electrical and electronic equipment,"
>> "General Electric Company (GE) was an American multinational
>> conglomerate"
>> It isn't even the usual X was bought by Y was bought by Z. They're
>> gone
>> completely although the GE trademark does live on in GE Aerospace. Also
>> gone are all the jobs the companies provided.
>> 
>
> I thought GE was still going. Besides aerospace, is GE Porwer Systems
> still running (turbines, generators, and such)? I lived in the general
> vicinity of Schenectady for many years and had family that worked
> there. I know GE Plastics in Pittsfield and Waterford was sold off (I
> had a gig there for a while, GE-400 system). MAO had something to do
> with nuclear subs. I know the appliance division left a long time ago,
> and I'm not even going to mention the Computer Division here in
> Phoenix.
>
GE sold off their mainframe computer business (GE-600 series) sometime
in the early 1970s while I was in the Air Force at Griffiss AFB in Rome
NY. After leaving the service in 1973 I went to work as site support for
Honeywell at the Washington Navy Yard, then at Kennedy Space Center for
the Space Shuttle project, and finally to the mainframe computer factory
on Thunderbird road in Phoenix. By the time I retired in 2012, the
manufacturing was long gone and the "GCOS 8" software support was under
Groupe Bull from France. I don't know if there is anything left at all
in Phoenix now.
-- 
-Don_from_AZ-

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#80486 — Re: naughty Pascal

FromLawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid>
Date2026-01-04 21:16 +0000
SubjectRe: naughty Pascal
Message-ID<10jelat$2apo7$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#80473
On Sun, 04 Jan 2026 09:22:03 -0700, Don_from_AZ wrote:

> GE sold off their mainframe computer business (GE-600 series) sometime
> in the early 1970s ...

That included the legendary Multics OS. It went to Honeywell.

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#80485 — Re: naughty Pascal

Fromrbowman <bowman@montana.com>
Date2026-01-04 21:00 +0000
SubjectRe: naughty Pascal
Message-ID<ms02neF5bsU4@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#80469
On Sun, 4 Jan 2026 07:56:42 -0700, Peter Flass wrote:

> I thought GE was still going. Besides aerospace, is GE Porwer Systems
> still running (turbines, generators, and such)? I lived in the general
> vicinity of Schenectady for many years and had family that worked there.
> I know GE Plastics in Pittsfield and Waterford was sold off (I had a gig
> there for a while, GE-400 system). MAO had something to do with nuclear
> subs. I know the appliance division left a long time ago, and I'm not
> even going to mention the Computer Division here in Phoenix.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GE_Vernova

It sounds like it sort of lives on in GE Vernova although the wiki article 
is confusing. 

I grew up near Troy. When nukes became unpopular that pretty much killed 
the LST business except for spare parts. I left the northeast in '88 and 
Schenectady was sort of a ghost town.  Both Schenectady and Pittsfield had 
the idea that GE had too much of an investment and could never leave. Then 
Power Systems waved goodbye and went to Atlanta.

I never had anything to do with Schenectady but the company I worked for 
did a thyrite molding system for Pittsfield, and plastics molding systems 
for the Somersworth NH meter plant and the underground terminations plant 
in Dover NH.  That was in the '70s. I went back east in 2004 and 
Somersworth was still hanging on but it's gone now.

https://www.fosters.com/story/business/2016/06/12/rise-and-fall-of-
general-electric-in-somersworth/27803271007/


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#80466 — Re: naughty Pascal

From"Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid>
Date2026-01-04 15:11 +0100
SubjectRe: naughty Pascal
Message-ID<229q2mxsvs.ln2@Telcontar.valinor>
In reply to#80400
On 2026-01-03 09:31, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
> On 02/01/2026 21:22, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>> I certainly studied i/o in *what they told us* was standard pascal,
>> using the original Wirth book.
> 
> (a) What they tell you is not always true.
> (b) What is 'standard' is a moveable feast...
> 
> ...google sez...
> 
> "The statement "Pascal has no I/O" originates from
> Brian Kernighan’s 1981 essay, "Why Pascal is Not My Favorite Programming
> Language".
> 
> Kernighan argued that the original 1970 definition of Pascal was
> severely limited for systems programming because:
> 
>      No Low-Level Access: The language lacked a way to override its
> strict type system, making it impossible to write its own I/O systems or
> memory allocators *within the language itself*.
> 
>      Fixed Array Sizes: Because array size was part of the type, a
> function could not be written to handle strings or arrays of different
> lengths, complicating general-purpose file I/O.
> 
>      Lack of Portability: Standard Pascal’s I/O was considered
> "primitive," and any real-world use required implementation-specific
> extensions that broke portability between compilers."
> 

Well, they taught us using a VAX for practising. They did not teach us 
whatever additions the compiler had, because I have read that pascal was 
used to write system utilities for the vax.

That vax was too crowded, so much that it could take seconds for the 
keyboard to respond. We had to type blind. I talked my parents into 
getting a PC so that I could practice Pascal. So I learned Turbo Pascal 
at home. You could do anything with it.



-- 
Cheers, Carlos.
ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;

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#80528 — Re: naughty Pascal

FromJohn Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com>
Date2026-01-05 10:49 -0800
SubjectRe: naughty Pascal
Message-ID<20260105104946.00005ab4@gmail.com>
In reply to#80400
On Sat, 3 Jan 2026 08:31:33 +0000
The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:

> "The statement "Pascal has no I/O" originates from
> Brian Kernighan’s 1981 essay, "Why Pascal is Not My Favorite
> Programming Language".
> 
> Kernighan argued that the original 1970 definition of Pascal was
> severely limited for systems programming because:

Yeah, that was it - not *no* I/O in the sense that was true of Algol,
but weird and constrained in ways that betray its origins as a teaching
language. Mainly, files are assumed to be of a uniform structure; you
can have a FILE OF CHAR or a FILE OF INTEGER, but not a file containing
both strings and integers. If you want to do *that,* you're supposed to
make a struct and have a FILE OF that, but this too has to be the same
across the whole thing. Files of mixed or variable structure? Who uses
*those!?*

Like many of Wirth's design choices, it sounds simple on paper but is
unnecessarily confining in the Real World - and, as Kernighan points
out, there were no "escape hatches" for extending the language from
within, leading to a bunch of proprietary and mutually-incompatible
variants. Obviously, it's been decades and the landscape has changed
substantially, but it really was dunderheaded at the time.

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#80548 — Re: naughty Pascal

Fromc186282 <c186282@nnada.net>
Date2026-01-05 19:57 -0500
SubjectRe: naughty Pascal
Message-ID<wcKcnfn9-cSEw8H0nZ2dnZfqnPqdnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#80528
On 1/5/26 13:49, John Ames wrote:
> On Sat, 3 Jan 2026 08:31:33 +0000
> The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> 
>> "The statement "Pascal has no I/O" originates from
>> Brian Kernighan’s 1981 essay, "Why Pascal is Not My Favorite
>> Programming Language".
>>
>> Kernighan argued that the original 1970 definition of Pascal was
>> severely limited for systems programming because:
> 
> Yeah, that was it - not *no* I/O in the sense that was true of Algol,
> but weird and constrained in ways that betray its origins as a teaching
> language. Mainly, files are assumed to be of a uniform structure; you
> can have a FILE OF CHAR or a FILE OF INTEGER, but not a file containing
> both strings and integers. If you want to do *that,* you're supposed to
> make a struct and have a FILE OF that, but this too has to be the same
> across the whole thing. Files of mixed or variable structure? Who uses
> *those!?*
> 
> Like many of Wirth's design choices, it sounds simple on paper but is
> unnecessarily confining in the Real World - and, as Kernighan points
> out, there were no "escape hatches" for extending the language from
> within, leading to a bunch of proprietary and mutually-incompatible
> variants. Obviously, it's been decades and the landscape has changed
> substantially, but it really was dunderheaded at the time.

   Wirth was an 'academic' - and Pascal/M2/M3 kind
   of reflect that.

   However it WAS easy to extend the language - add in
   those Real World necessities. By the time Turbo Pascal
   hit the scene there really wasn't anything you could
   not do with Pascal.

   And I still write in Pascal fairly often - like
   it better than 'C'.

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