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IBM and Red Hat

Started byCóilín Nioclásín Glostéir <thanks-to@Taf.com>
First post2026-10-06 15:24 +0000
Last post2026-10-12 09:08 -0700
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  IBM and Red Hat Cóilín Nioclásín Glostéir <thanks-to@Taf.com> - 2026-10-06 15:24 +0000
    Re: IBM and Red Hat Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-10-06 20:58 +0000
    Re: IBM and Red Hat c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-10-07 00:23 -0400
      Re: IBM and Red Hat John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-10-07 08:09 -0700
        Re: IBM and Red Hat Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-10-07 15:50 +0000
          Re: IBM and Red Hat rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-07 18:53 +0000
          Re: IBM and Red Hat c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-10-07 21:43 -0400
            Re: IBM and Red Hat Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-10-08 20:08 +0000
        Re: IBM and Red Hat c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-10-07 21:43 -0400
          Re: IBM and Red Hat "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-08 13:40 +0200
            Re: IBM and Red Hat c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-10-09 02:28 -0400
              Re: IBM and Red Hat The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-09 11:09 +0100
                Re: IBM and Red Hat Robert Riches <spamtrap42@jacob21819.net> - 2026-10-09 17:34 +0000
                  Re: IBM and Red Hat Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-10-09 23:08 +0000
                    Re: IBM and Red Hat The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-10 09:50 +0100
                      Re: IBM and Red Hat rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-10 20:11 +0000
                        Re: IBM and Red Hat Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-10-11 05:23 +0000
                Re: IBM and Red Hat "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-09 20:25 +0200
                Re: IBM and Red Hat rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-09 18:41 +0000
          Re: IBM and Red Hat John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-10-08 08:10 -0700
            Re: IBM and Red Hat "Rinaldi J. Montessi" <rinaldij@alien.free> - 2026-10-08 10:32 -0500
              Re: IBM and Red Hat John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-10-08 08:58 -0700
                Re: IBM and Red Hat "Rinaldi J. Montessi" <rinaldij@alien.free> - 2026-10-08 11:13 -0500
                Re: IBM and Red Hat rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-08 20:30 +0000
            Re: IBM and Red Hat The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-08 22:03 +0100
            Re: IBM and Red Hat c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-10-09 02:43 -0400
            Re: IBM and Red Hat Cóilín Nioclásín Glostéir <thanks-to@Taf.com> - 2026-10-10 18:52 +0000
              Re: IBM and Red Hat Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-10-10 20:22 +0000
                Re: IBM and Red Hat c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-10-11 00:13 -0400
              Re: IBM and Red Hat Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2026-10-11 10:37 +0000
                Re: IBM and Red Hat Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2026-10-11 08:29 -0400
                  Re: IBM and Red Hat The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-11 14:51 +0100
                    Re: IBM and Red Hat Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2026-10-11 13:24 -0400
                Re: IBM and Red Hat The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-11 14:53 +0100
                Re: IBM and Red Hat Nicolas Paul Colin de Glocester <thanks-to@Taf.com> - 2026-10-11 20:38 +0000
                  Re: IBM and Red Hat c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-10-12 00:38 -0400
                    Re: IBM and Red Hat Cóilín Nioclásín Glostéir <thanks-to@Taf.com> - 2026-10-12 20:29 +0000
                      Re: IBM and Red Hat c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-10-13 00:56 -0400
                        Re: IBM and Red Hat Cóilín Nioclásín Glostéir <thanks-to@Taf.com> - 2026-10-13 09:45 +0000
                      Re: IBM and Red Hat The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-13 08:14 +0100
                        Re: IBM and Red Hat rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-13 17:25 +0000
                          Re: IBM and Red Hat The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-13 18:38 +0100
                          Re: IBM and Red Hat Cóilín Nioclásín Glostéir <thanks-to@Taf.com> - 2026-10-13 17:47 +0000
                            Re: IBM and Red Hat c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-10-14 04:44 -0400
                              Re: IBM and Red Hat Cóilín Nioclásín Glostéir <thanks-to@Taf.com> - 2026-10-14 10:49 +0000
                                Re: IBM and Red Hat rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-14 19:28 +0000
                          Re: IBM and Red Hat Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-10-13 18:16 +0000
                            Re: IBM and Red Hat c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-10-13 22:22 -0400
              Re: IBM and Red Hat John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-10-12 09:08 -0700

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#93596

Fromrbowman <bowman@montana.com>
Date2026-10-13 17:25 +0000
Message-ID<nj77t1Fc9lcU12@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#93562
On Tue, 13 Oct 2026 08:14:03 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

> On 12/10/2026 21:29, Cóilín Nioclásín Glostéir wrote:
>> C186282 <c186282@nnada.net> wrote: |----------------------------------|
>> |"  Does ANYONE use Ada anymore ???|
>> |                                  |
>> |[. . .]"                          |
>> |----------------------------------|
>> 
>> Yes. This is a crosspost to comp.lang.ada (S.
>> HTTP://Gloucester.Insomnia247.NL/ fuer Kontaktdaten!)
> 
> I don't use corncobs to wipe my arse either

When the Ada fad started I recall job offerings that required several 
years of Ada experience. At the time there wasn't a working Ada compiler. 
HR people are so cute.

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#93597

FromThe Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid>
Date2026-10-13 18:38 +0100
Message-ID<11alq9t$ocpj$3@dont-email.me>
In reply to#93596
On 13/10/2026 18:25, rbowman wrote:
> On Tue, 13 Oct 2026 08:14:03 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
> 
>> On 12/10/2026 21:29, Cóilín Nioclásín Glostéir wrote:
>>> C186282 <c186282@nnada.net> wrote: |----------------------------------|
>>> |"  Does ANYONE use Ada anymore ???|
>>> |                                  |
>>> |[. . .]"                          |
>>> |----------------------------------|
>>>
>>> Yes. This is a crosspost to comp.lang.ada (S.
>>> HTTP://Gloucester.Insomnia247.NL/ fuer Kontaktdaten!)
>>
>> I don't use corncobs to wipe my arse either
> 
> When the Ada fad started I recall job offerings that required several
> years of Ada experience. At the time there wasn't a working Ada compiler.
> HR people are so cute.

ROFLMAO!

We used to simply lie. But Ada wasn't worth the hassle of learning

-- 
“But what a weak barrier is truth when it stands in the way of an 
hypothesis!”

Mary Wollstonecraft

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#93600

FromCóilín Nioclásín Glostéir <thanks-to@Taf.com>
Date2026-10-13 17:47 +0000
Message-ID<11alqrm$oo7$1@rasp.pasdenom.info>
In reply to#93596
RBowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:
|------------------------------------------------------|
|"[. . .] I recall job offerings that required several |
|years of Ada experience. [. . .]                      |
|[. . .]"                                              |
|------------------------------------------------------|

Likewise happened with e.g. C# when C# was new.
(S. HTTP://Gloucester.Insomnia247.NL/ fuer Kontaktdaten!)

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#93666

Fromc186282 <c186282@nnada.net>
Date2026-10-14 04:44 -0400
Message-ID<dD2dnSA8jK5O3VL3nZ2dnZfqnPidnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#93600
On 10/13/26 13:47, Cóilín Nioclásín Glostéir wrote:
> RBowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:
> |------------------------------------------------------|
> |"[. . .] I recall job offerings that required several |
> |years of Ada experience. [. . .]                      |
> |[. . .]"                                              |
> |------------------------------------------------------|
> 
> Likewise happened with e.g. C# when C# was new.
> (S. HTTP://Gloucester.Insomnia247.NL/ fuer Kontaktdaten!)

   If you SEE insane reqs for jobs like that - RUN AWAY !
   Let 'em DIE from their own stupidity.

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#93674

FromCóilín Nioclásín Glostéir <thanks-to@Taf.com>
Date2026-10-14 10:49 +0000
Message-ID<11anmog$2kkhu$2@paganini.bofh.team>
In reply to#93666
C186282 <c186282@nnada.net> wrote:
|-----------------------------------------------------------|
|"On 10/13/26 13:47, Cóilín Nioclásín Glostéir wrote:       |
|> RBowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:                      |
|> |------------------------------------------------------| |
|> |"[. . .] I recall job offerings that required several | |
|> |years of Ada experience. [. . .]                      | |
|> |[. . .]"                                              | |
|> |------------------------------------------------------| |
|>                                                          |
|> Likewise happened with e.g. C# when C# was new.          |
|> (S. HTTP://Gloucester.Insomnia247.NL/ fuer Kontaktdaten!)|
|                                                           |
|  If you SEE insane reqs for jobs like that - RUN AWAY !"  |
|-----------------------------------------------------------|

Good advice!

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#93714

Fromrbowman <bowman@montana.com>
Date2026-10-14 19:28 +0000
Message-ID<nja3etFc9lcU39@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#93674
On Wed, 14 Oct 2026 10:49:54 -0000 (UTC), Cóilín Nioclásín Glostéir wrote:

> C186282 <c186282@nnada.net> wrote:
> |-----------------------------------------------------------| |"On
> 10/13/26 13:47, Cóilín Nioclásín Glostéir wrote:       |
> |> RBowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:                      |
> |> |------------------------------------------------------| |
> |> |"[. . .] I recall job offerings that required several | |
> |> |years of Ada experience. [. . .]                      | |
> |> |[. . .]"                                              | |
> |> |------------------------------------------------------| |
> |>                                                          |
> |> Likewise happened with e.g. C# when C# was new.          |
> |> (S. HTTP://Gloucester.Insomnia247.NL/ fuer Kontaktdaten!)|
> |                                                           |
> |  If you SEE insane reqs for jobs like that - RUN AWAY !"  |
> |-----------------------------------------------------------|
> 
> Good advice!

Back in the '80s that was a common ploy. Insane requirements and low 
salary. The company was angling for a H-1 hire and could say truthfully 
'We advertised the opening and nobody even applied.'

iirc it was still H-1. The split into H-1A and H-1B came later.

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#93605

FromCharlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid>
Date2026-10-13 18:16 +0000
Message-ID<DzuzS.202986$_oJb.14778@fx46.iad>
In reply to#93596
On 2026-10-13, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:

> On Tue, 13 Oct 2026 08:14:03 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>
>> On 12/10/2026 21:29, Cóilín Nioclásín Glostéir wrote:
>>
>>> C186282 <c186282@nnada.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> |----------------------------------|
>>>> |"  Does ANYONE use Ada anymore ???|
>>>> |                                  |
>>>> |[. . .]"                          |
>>>> |----------------------------------|
>>> 
>>> Yes. This is a crosspost to comp.lang.ada (S.
>>> HTTP://Gloucester.Insomnia247.NL/ fuer Kontaktdaten!)
>> 
>> I don't use corncobs to wipe my arse either
>
> When the Ada fad started I recall job offerings that required several 
> years of Ada experience. At the time there wasn't a working Ada compiler. 
> HR people are so cute.

Sort of like the search for programmers with
5 year's experience in Windows 95 - in 1997.

-- 
/~\  Charlie Gibbs                  |  In this world there are
\ /  <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid>      |  two kinds of people:
 X   I'm really at ac.dekanfrus     |  1. Those who can extrapolate
/ \  if you read it the right way.  |  from incomplete data.

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#93634

Fromc186282 <c186282@nnada.net>
Date2026-10-13 22:22 -0400
Message-ID<tnGdnbfd1pL_elP3nZ2dnZfqnPadnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#93605
On 10/13/26 14:16, Charlie Gibbs wrote:
> On 2026-10-13, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:
> 
>> On Tue, 13 Oct 2026 08:14:03 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>>
>>> On 12/10/2026 21:29, Cóilín Nioclásín Glostéir wrote:
>>>
>>>> C186282 <c186282@nnada.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> |----------------------------------|
>>>>> |"  Does ANYONE use Ada anymore ???|
>>>>> |                                  |
>>>>> |[. . .]"                          |
>>>>> |----------------------------------|
>>>>
>>>> Yes. This is a crosspost to comp.lang.ada (S.
>>>> HTTP://Gloucester.Insomnia247.NL/ fuer Kontaktdaten!)
>>>
>>> I don't use corncobs to wipe my arse either
>>
>> When the Ada fad started I recall job offerings that required several
>> years of Ada experience. At the time there wasn't a working Ada compiler.
>> HR people are so cute.
> 
> Sort of like the search for programmers with
> 5 year's experience in Windows 95 - in 1997.


   Heh ... expect "HR" to have ANY clue ???  :-)

   Give 'em a chance and they won't even figure
   bathroom breaks in the schedule.

   "What, we employ HUMANS ???"

   Clue, pee under their doors  :-)

   Anyway, had some experiences with Ada. It's
   as inhuman as 'HR'. Better to work for a
   homeless/addict center than have to do a
   lot of Ada programming.

   Hmm ... recently subscribed to CHAT. Dunno
   why exactly, but the price was good.

   Gonna ask it to write me a mini database
   with b-trees ... in FORTRAN ... for fun.
   Kinda liked FORTRAN (note Python stole
   a lot of stuff from FORTRAN, the string-
   slicing is especially useful).

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#93521

FromJohn Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com>
Date2026-10-12 09:08 -0700
Message-ID<20261012090817.00002d46@gmail.com>
In reply to#93321
On Sat, 10 Oct 2026 18:52:21 -0000 (UTC)
Cóilín Nioclásín Glostéir <thanks-to@Taf.com> wrote:

> Elon Reeve Musk is not a moron.

Sure, buddy, whatever you say.

(Was for a long time content to ignore the guy - could tell he was a
Self-Styled Genius back when people wouldn't stop forwarding things he
said on Twitter, e.g. "I THINK WE LIVE IN THE MATRIX, THE FACT THAT YOU
CAN'T PROVE WE DON'T MEANS IT MUST BE TRUE" - but he has the most acute
case of Main Character Syndrome in modern history and *just will not go
away.* He's probably the best available argument for mulching the tech
billionaires and repurposing their biomass, except that even starving
proles don't deserve to get *that* much ketamine, steroids, and Coke
Zero in their Soylent Green.)

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