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| Started by | "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> |
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| First post | 2026-09-15 21:48 -0400 |
| Last post | 2026-10-02 18:17 +0000 |
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Killer price on a mini PC "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-09-15 21:48 -0400
Re: Killer price on a mini PC Leroy H <lh@somewhere.net> - 2026-09-16 03:17 +0000
Re: Killer price on a mini PC "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-09-15 23:35 -0400
Re: Killer price on a mini PC T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-18 21:29 -0700
Re: Killer price on a mini PC c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-09-19 01:51 -0400
Re: Killer price on a mini PC Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-09-19 09:36 -0400
Re: Killer price on a mini PC T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-19 12:03 -0700
Re: Killer price on a mini PC c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-09-20 01:49 -0400
Re: Killer price on a mini PC T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-21 02:44 -0700
Re: Killer price on a mini PC Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-09-21 20:29 +1000
Re: Killer price on a mini PC "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-21 22:45 +0100
Re: Killer price on a mini PC rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-09-22 02:30 +0000
Re: Killer price on a mini PC Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-09-22 20:38 +1000
Re: Killer price on a mini PC The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-22 12:43 +0100
Re: Killer price on a mini PC Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-22 17:38 +0100
Re: Killer price on a mini PC The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-23 09:46 +0100
Re: Killer price on a mini PC Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-09-22 21:47 +1000
Re: Killer price on a mini PC The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-22 12:54 +0100
Re: Killer price on a mini PC "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-22 17:59 +0100
Re: Killer price on a mini PC Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-09-21 11:38 -0400
Re: Killer price on a mini PC T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-21 18:13 -0700
Re: Killer price on a mini PC rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-09-22 03:22 +0000
Re: Killer price on a mini PC The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-22 06:56 +0100
Re: Killer price on a mini PC rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-09-22 07:19 +0000
Re: Killer price on a mini PC The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-22 11:24 +0100
Re: Killer price on a mini PC c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-09-23 00:15 -0400
Re: Killer price on a mini PC T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-22 01:54 -0700
Re: Killer price on a mini PC Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-09-16 07:24 -0400
Re: Killer price on a mini PC Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-09-16 12:36 +0100
Re: Killer price on a mini PC Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-09-16 10:11 -0400
Re: Killer price on a mini PC "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-09-17 12:20 -0400
Re: Killer price on a mini PC Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-09-17 12:58 -0400
Re: Killer price on a mini PC "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-09-17 13:26 -0400
Re: Killer price on a mini PC c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-09-18 00:49 -0400
Re: Killer price on a mini PC Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-09-18 08:10 -0400
Re: Killer price on a mini PC rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-09-18 20:01 +0000
Re: Killer price on a mini PC "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-09-18 16:23 -0400
Re: Killer price on a mini PC Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2026-09-18 17:42 -0400
Re: Killer price on a mini PC "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-09-18 18:09 -0400
Re: Killer price on a mini PC rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-09-18 23:02 +0000
Re: Killer price on a mini PC c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-09-19 01:08 -0400
Re: Killer price on a mini PC c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-09-19 00:33 -0400
Re: Killer price on a mini PC "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-18 21:20 +0100
Re: Killer price on a mini PC Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid> - 2026-09-18 16:05 -0500
Re: Killer price on a mini PC "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-09-18 17:09 -0400
Re: Killer price on a mini PC Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-09-18 17:19 -0400
Re: Killer price on a mini PC Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2026-09-18 17:47 -0400
Re: Killer price on a mini PC Robert Riches <spamtrap42@jacob21819.net> - 2026-09-18 22:10 +0000
Re: Killer price on a mini PC "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-18 23:13 +0100
Re: Killer price on a mini PC Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-09-19 19:56 +1000
Re: Killer price on a mini PC Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-09-19 09:42 -0400
Re: Killer price on a mini PC Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-09-20 21:24 +1000
Re: Killer price on a mini PC "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-20 19:18 +0100
Re: Killer price on a mini PC Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-09-21 04:51 -0400
Re: Killer price on a mini PC Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-09-21 19:18 +1000
Re: Killer price on a mini PC Chris Abraham <chris@gerriscorp.com> - 2026-09-21 13:13 -0400
Re: Killer price on a mini PC The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-21 23:33 +0100
Re: Killer price on a mini PC Chris Abraham <chris@gerriscorp.com> - 2026-09-21 18:46 -0400
Re: Killer price on a mini PC Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-09-22 20:52 +1000
Re: Killer price on a mini PC "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-22 20:02 +0100
Re: Killer price on a mini PC Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-09-23 21:21 +1000
Re: Killer price on a mini PC Mark Lloyd <not.email@all.invalid> - 2026-09-19 18:33 +0000
Re: Killer price on a mini PC "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-19 21:24 +0100
Re: Killer price on a mini PC Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-09-20 04:03 -0400
Re: Killer price on a mini PC c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-09-20 04:21 -0400
screen shape/orientation (was: Re: Killer price on a mini PC) "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-20 10:31 +0100
Re: Killer price on a mini PC The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-20 10:45 +0100
Re: Killer price on a mini PC "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-20 10:57 +0100
Re: Killer price on a mini PC The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-20 10:39 +0100
Re: Killer price on a mini PC Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-20 15:04 +0100
Re: Killer price on a mini PC "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-20 19:29 +0100
Re: Killer price on a mini PC Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-20 22:47 +0100
Re: Killer price on a mini PC Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-09-20 20:36 -0400
Re: Killer price on a mini PC The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-21 12:14 +0100
Re: Killer price on a mini PC chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2026-09-20 11:26 -0500
Re: Killer price on a mini PC "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-20 19:32 +0100
Re: Killer price on a mini PC Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-09-21 06:16 -0400
Re: Killer price on a mini PC Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> - 2026-09-21 12:41 +0000
Re: Killer price on a mini PC The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-21 14:30 +0100
Re: Killer price on a mini PC Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-09-22 20:57 +1000
Re: Killer price on a mini PC Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-09-21 12:01 -0400
Re: Killer price on a mini PC The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-21 17:19 +0100
Re: Killer price on a mini PC chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2026-09-21 16:02 -0500
Re: Killer price on a mini PC Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-09-21 19:23 -0400
Re: Killer price on a mini PC rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-09-22 03:30 +0000
Re: Killer price on a mini PC "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-22 14:12 +0200
Re: Killer price on a mini PC The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-22 13:47 +0100
Re: Killer price on a mini PC "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-22 19:29 +0200
Re: Killer price on a mini PC Mark Lloyd <not.email@all.invalid> - 2026-09-21 14:26 +0000
Re: Killer price on a mini PC The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-21 16:36 +0100
Re: Killer price on a mini PC Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2026-09-21 18:44 +0000
Re: Killer price on a mini PC "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-21 22:29 +0100
Re: Killer price on a mini PC The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-21 23:34 +0100
Re: Killer price on a mini PC Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-09-22 08:28 -0400
Re: Killer price on a mini PC The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-22 13:49 +0100
Re: Killer price on a mini PC "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-22 19:40 +0200
Re: Killer price on a mini PC Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> - 2026-09-23 07:43 +0000
Re: Killer price on a mini PC "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-23 12:38 +0200
Re: Killer price on a mini PC Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> - 2026-09-23 12:11 +0000
Re: Killer price on a mini PC "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-23 19:55 +0200
Re: Killer price on a mini PC Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-09-23 19:20 +0100
Re: Killer price on a mini PC c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-09-24 00:27 -0400
Re: Killer price on a mini PC Roger Blake <rogblake@iname.invalid> - 2026-09-24 23:31 +0000
Re: Killer price on a mini PC Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-09-25 09:18 +0100
Re: Killer price on a mini PC The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-25 11:05 +0100
Re: Killer price on a mini PC "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-25 21:18 +0100
Re: Killer price on a mini PC c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-09-26 04:13 -0400
Re: Killer price on a mini PC "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-26 18:55 +0100
Re: Killer price on a mini PC Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-09-25 20:43 +1000
Gigaset M740AV "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-23 20:25 +0200
Re: Killer price on a mini PC Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> - 2026-09-24 13:43 +0000
Re: Killer price on a mini PC "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-24 20:39 +0200
Re: Killer price on a mini PC Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> - 2026-09-25 06:51 +0000
Re: Killer price on a mini PC The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-25 09:24 +0100
Re: Killer price on a mini PC "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-25 12:11 +0200
Re: Killer price on a mini PC The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-25 11:18 +0100
Re: Killer price on a mini PC "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-25 12:41 +0200
Re: Killer price on a mini PC Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-09-25 11:57 +0100
Re: Killer price on a mini PC The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-25 12:48 +0100
Re: Killer price on a mini PC Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> - 2026-09-25 14:25 +0000
Re: Killer price on a mini PC The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-25 15:46 +0100
Re: Killer price on a mini PC Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> - 2026-09-25 16:47 +0000
Re: Killer price on a mini PC "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-25 21:28 +0100
Re: Killer price on a mini PC The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-26 04:33 +0100
Re: Killer price on a mini PC Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> - 2026-09-25 14:03 +0000
Re: Killer price on a mini PC The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-25 15:42 +0100
Re: Killer price on a mini PC "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-25 21:34 +0100
Re: Killer price on a mini PC The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-26 04:36 +0100
Re: Killer price on a mini PC "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-26 20:14 +0100
Re: Killer price on a mini PC The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-26 20:39 +0100
Re: Killer price on a mini PC Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid> - 2026-09-26 17:14 -0500
Re: Killer price on a mini PC c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-09-26 22:16 -0400
Re: Killer price on a mini PC The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-27 08:24 +0100
Re: Killer price on a mini PC rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-09-27 07:38 +0000
Re: Killer price on a mini PC Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-27 09:37 +0100
Re: Killer price on a mini PC The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-27 12:42 +0100
Re: Killer price on a mini PC Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-27 13:32 +0100
Re: Killer price on a mini PC Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-09-27 18:56 +1000
Re: Killer price on a mini PC The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-27 12:46 +0100
Re: Killer price on a mini PC Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> - 2026-09-27 14:03 +0000
Re: Killer price on a mini PC rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-09-27 19:16 +0000
Re: Killer price on a mini PC Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> - 2026-09-28 07:19 +0000
Re: Killer price on a mini PC "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-27 16:37 +0100
Re: Killer price on a mini PC The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-27 17:38 +0100
Re: Killer price on a mini PC "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-28 22:32 +0100
Re: Killer price on a mini PC rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-09-29 00:10 +0000
Re: Killer price on a mini PC "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-29 01:56 +0100
Re: Killer price on a mini PC John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-09-29 08:20 -0700
Re: Killer price on a mini PC Joe Makowiec <makowiec@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-28 21:46 +0000
Re: Killer price on a mini PC "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-28 23:27 +0100
Re: Killer price on a mini PC Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-29 08:12 +0100
Re: Killer price on a mini PC rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-09-27 19:05 +0000
Re: Killer price on a mini PC The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-28 09:05 +0100
Re: Killer price on a mini PC Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-09-28 20:46 +1000
Re: Killer price on a mini PC The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-28 12:03 +0100
Re: Killer price on a mini PC rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-09-28 17:37 +0000
Re: Killer price on a mini PC The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-28 19:03 +0100
Re: Killer price on a mini PC Chris Abraham <chris@gerriscorp.com> - 2026-09-26 19:14 -0400
Re: Killer price on a mini PC Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> - 2026-09-26 12:10 +0000
Re: Killer price on a mini PC Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-09-22 02:20 -0400
Re: Killer price on a mini PC The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-22 07:50 +0100
OT - TV (was: Re: Killer price on a mini PC) "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-22 18:59 +0100
Re: OT - TV (was: Re: Killer price on a mini PC) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-09-22 19:52 +0000
Re: OT - TV Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-09-23 02:29 -0400
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-23 09:50 +0100
Re: OT - TV "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-23 12:40 +0200
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-23 13:38 +0100
Re: OT - TV "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-09-24 19:46 -0400
Re: Killer price on a mini PC c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-09-23 00:04 -0400
OT - TV (was: Re: Killer price on a mini PC) "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-23 06:45 +0100
Re: OT - TV c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-09-24 04:10 -0400
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-24 12:39 +0100
Re: OT - TV Abandoned Trolley <that.bloke@microsoft.com> - 2026-09-24 13:17 +0100
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-24 14:23 +0100
Re: OT - TV "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-24 19:44 +0100
Re: OT - TV Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-09-24 23:17 +0000
Re: OT - TV "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-25 20:39 +0100
Re: OT - TV "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-26 12:11 +0200
Re: OT - TV Abandoned Trolley <that.bloke@microsoft.com> - 2026-09-26 11:47 +0100
Re: OT - TV "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-26 19:08 +0100
Re: OT - TV Scott <newsgroups@gefion.myzen.co.uk> - 2026-09-26 19:58 +0100
Re: OT - TV "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-26 20:30 +0100
Re: OT - TV Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2026-09-26 19:10 +0000
Re: OT - TV "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-26 21:02 +0100
Re: OT - TV "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-26 21:03 +0100
Re: OT - TV Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2026-09-27 18:20 +0000
Re: OT - TV "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-28 16:26 +0100
Re: OT - TV Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2026-09-28 15:45 +0000
Re: OT - TV Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-09-28 16:30 +0000
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-28 17:46 +0100
Re: OT - TV "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-28 22:25 +0100
Re: OT - TV NY <me@privacy.net> - 2026-09-29 16:40 +0100
OT - Lehrer (was: Re: OT - TV) "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-29 16:58 +0100
Re: OT - Lehrer (was: Re: OT - TV) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-09-29 18:19 +0000
Re: OT - Lehrer "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-29 20:57 +0100
Re: OT - Lehrer Charles Hope <clh@candehope.me.uk> - 2026-09-29 20:00 +0000
Re: OT - Lehrer (was: Re: OT - TV) André Coutanche <acoutanche@gmx.co.uk> - 2026-09-29 21:50 +0100
Re: OT - Lehrer NY <me@privacy.net> - 2026-09-29 22:33 +0100
Re: OT - Lehrer Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-09-29 22:48 +0000
Re: OT - Lehrer "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-30 01:07 +0100
Re: OT - Lehrer John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-09-30 15:51 -0700
Re: OT - Lehrer c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-09-30 21:02 -0400
Re: OT - Lehrer chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2026-10-01 06:22 -0500
Re: OT - Lehrer The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-01 13:01 +0100
Re: OT - Lehrer NY <me@privacy.net> - 2026-10-01 10:57 +0100
Re: OT - Lehrer NY <me@privacy.net> - 2026-09-30 08:10 +0100
Re: OT - Lehrer "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-30 01:39 +0100
Re: OT - Lehrer Roger Blake <rogblake@iname.invalid> - 2026-09-30 00:46 +0000
Re: OT - Lehrer NY <me@privacy.net> - 2026-09-29 22:39 +0100
Re: OT - Lehrer Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2026-09-30 12:25 +0000
Re: OT - Lehrer "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-30 13:34 +0100
Re: OT - Lehrer The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-30 14:31 +0100
Re: OT - Lehrer NY <me@privacy.net> - 2026-09-30 14:47 +0100
Re: OT - Lehrer John Williamson <johnwilliamson@btinternet.com> - 2026-09-30 14:58 +0100
Re: OT - Lehrer "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-10-01 02:36 +0100
Re: OT - Lehrer NY <me@privacy.net> - 2026-10-01 11:12 +0100
Re: OT - Lehrer Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2026-10-01 14:35 +0000
Re: OT - Lehrer NY <me@privacy.net> - 2026-10-01 16:14 +0100
Re: OT - Lehrer Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2026-10-01 17:35 +0000
Re: OT - Lehrer Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-10-01 17:53 +0000
Re: OT - Lehrer John Williamson <johnwilliamson@btinternet.com> - 2026-10-01 19:03 +0100
Re: OT - Lehrer "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-10-01 21:50 +0100
Re: OT - Lehrer The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-02 12:25 +0100
Re: OT - Lehrer marika <marika5000@gmail.com> - 2026-10-09 00:03 +0000
Re: OT - Lehrer The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-01 11:13 +0100
Re: OT - Lehrer NY <me@privacy.net> - 2026-10-01 11:51 +0100
Re: OT - Lehrer John Williamson <johnwilliamson@btinternet.com> - 2026-09-30 14:55 +0100
Re: OT - Lehrer Charles Hope <clh@candehope.me.uk> - 2026-09-30 14:15 +0000
Re: OT - TV Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-09-27 19:58 +1000
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-27 12:52 +0100
Re: OT - TV Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-09-27 22:13 +1000
Re: OT - TV Rink <rink.hof.haalditmaarweg@planet.nl> - 2026-10-08 21:51 +0200
Re: OT - TV Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-10-12 18:47 +1100
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-12 11:47 +0100
Re: OT - TV John Williamson <johnwilliamson@btinternet.com> - 2026-10-12 11:58 +0100
Re: OT - TV Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-10-12 22:37 +1100
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-12 13:17 +0100
Re: OT - TV rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-12 18:15 +0000
Re: OT - TV Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-09-27 11:56 -0400
Re: OT - TV "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-27 19:28 +0200
Re: OT - TV Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-09-27 15:28 -0400
Re: OT - TV "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-28 10:19 +0200
[OT] - audio distribution, Rediffusion-style (was: Re: OT - TV) "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-28 16:43 +0100
Re: OT - TV Max Demian <max_demian@bigfoot.com> - 2026-09-27 11:44 +0100
Re: OT - TV "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-27 16:12 +0100
Re: OT - TV Max Demian <max_demian@bigfoot.com> - 2026-09-27 18:12 +0100
Re: OT - TV Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-09-27 18:23 +0100
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-27 18:34 +0100
Re: OT - TV Max Demian <max_demian@bigfoot.com> - 2026-09-28 14:03 +0100
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-28 16:46 +0100
Re: OT - TV Max Demian <max_demian@bigfoot.com> - 2026-09-29 12:01 +0100
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-29 13:05 +0100
Re: OT - TV "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-29 14:13 +0100
Re: OT - TV The Other John <nomail@here.org> - 2026-09-29 16:53 +0100
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-29 17:12 +0100
Re: OT - TV "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-30 11:23 +0200
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-30 11:48 +0100
Re: OT - TV Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-09-30 07:37 -0400
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-30 14:28 +0100
Re: OT - TV "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-01 00:35 +0200
Re: OT - TV "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-10-01 02:15 +0100
Re: OT - TV Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-10-01 00:15 -0400
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-01 12:50 +0100
Re: OT - TV "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-01 14:24 +0200
Re: OT - TV Max Demian <max_demian@bigfoot.com> - 2026-10-01 17:17 +0100
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-01 12:48 +0100
Re: OT - TV John Williamson <johnwilliamson@btinternet.com> - 2026-10-01 13:32 +0100
Re: OT - TV Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2026-10-01 14:52 +0000
Re: OT - TV Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-10-03 21:10 +1000
Re: OT - TV "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-03 13:39 +0200
Re: OT - TV Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-10-03 09:11 -0400
Re: OT - TV Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-10-04 21:26 +1100
Re: OT - TV "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-04 13:19 +0200
Re: OT - TV Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-10-04 10:36 -0400
Re: OT - TV "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-04 19:18 +0200
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-03 12:47 +0100
Re: OT - TV John Williamson <johnwilliamson@btinternet.com> - 2026-10-03 12:50 +0100
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-03 13:09 +0100
Re: OT - TV John Williamson <johnwilliamson@btinternet.com> - 2026-10-03 15:59 +0100
Re: OT - TV Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> - 2026-10-03 15:56 +0000
Re: OT - TV John Williamson <johnwilliamson@btinternet.com> - 2026-10-03 17:19 +0100
Re: OT - TV Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> - 2026-10-04 10:54 +0000
Re: OT - TV c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-10-05 01:27 -0400
Re: OT - TV Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> - 2026-10-05 07:55 +0000
Re: OT - TV "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-05 14:54 +0200
Re: OT - TV Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> - 2026-10-05 15:17 +0000
Re: OT - TV John Williamson <johnwilliamson@btinternet.com> - 2026-10-05 11:29 +0100
Re: OT - TV Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-10-05 11:46 +0100
Re: OT - TV JMB99 <mb@nospam.net> - 2026-10-06 17:51 +0100
Re: OT - TV "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-10-06 18:58 +0100
Re: OT - TV "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-06 20:36 +0200
Re: OT - TV JMB99 <mb@nospam.net> - 2026-10-07 09:00 +0100
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-07 11:04 +0100
Re: OT - TV "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-07 12:21 +0200
Re: OT - TV John Williamson <johnwilliamson@btinternet.com> - 2026-10-07 11:54 +0100
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-07 12:37 +0100
Re: OT - TV "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-08 13:51 +0200
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-08 13:04 +0100
Re: OT - TV "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-10-08 22:02 +0100
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-08 22:15 +0100
Re: OT - TV "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-09 22:22 +0200
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-09 22:33 +0100
Re: OT - TV "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-10 19:20 +0200
Re: OT - TV rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-10 01:01 +0000
Re: OT - TV Don_from_AZ <djatechNOSPAM@comcast.net.invalid> - 2026-10-09 20:09 -0700
Re: OT - TV rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-10 07:03 +0000
Re: OT - TV Don_from_AZ <djatechNOSPAM@comcast.net.invalid> - 2026-10-10 10:32 -0700
Re: OT - TV rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-10 19:56 +0000
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-11 09:35 +0100
Re: OT - TV Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-10-11 15:54 +0000
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-11 09:33 +0100
Re: OT - TV "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-10 19:52 +0200
Re: OT - TV rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-10 20:04 +0000
Re: OT - TV "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-10 22:15 +0200
Re: OT - TV rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-11 03:23 +0000
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-11 09:44 +0100
Re: OT - TV rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-11 18:15 +0000
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-11 09:41 +0100
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-11 09:40 +0100
Re: OT - TV rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-11 18:22 +0000
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-11 09:38 +0100
Re: OT - TV "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-11 15:17 +0200
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-11 14:58 +0100
Re: OT - temperatures "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-11 20:45 +0200
Re: OT - temperatures c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-10-11 22:44 -0400
Re: OT - temperatures The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-12 10:45 +0100
Re: OT - temperatures "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-12 13:14 +0200
Re: OT - temperatures c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-10-13 00:53 -0400
Re: OT - temperatures "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-13 12:54 +0200
Re: OT - temperatures The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-13 14:31 +0100
Re: OT - temperatures "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-13 17:39 +0200
Re: OT - temperatures The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-13 18:53 +0100
Re: OT - temperatures rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-14 05:26 +0000
Re: OT - temperatures The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-14 09:14 +0100
Re: OT - temperatures Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2026-10-16 19:29 +0000
Re: OT - temperatures The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-16 23:02 +0100
Re: OT - temperatures Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-10-16 22:32 +0000
Re: OT - temperatures The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-17 09:35 +0100
Re: OT - temperatures rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-17 03:28 +0000
Re: OT - temperatures The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-17 09:41 +0100
Re: OT - temperatures rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-17 19:24 +0000
Re: OT - temperatures "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-17 13:02 +0200
Re: OT - temperatures The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-17 12:16 +0100
Re: OT - temperatures "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-17 13:41 +0200
Re: OT - temperatures rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-17 18:55 +0000
Re: OT - temperatures Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2026-10-17 12:52 +0000
Re: OT - temperatures The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-17 15:03 +0100
Re: OT - temperatures "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-17 20:08 +0200
Re: OT - temperatures The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-18 12:51 +0100
Re: OT - temperatures "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-17 20:05 +0200
Re: OT - temperatures The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-18 12:26 +0100
Re: OT - temperatures "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-18 14:27 +0200
Re: OT - temperatures The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-18 13:57 +0100
Re: OT - temperatures "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-18 21:02 +0200
Re: OT - temperatures The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-18 20:46 +0100
Re: OT - temperatures rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-18 17:50 +0000
Re: OT - temperatures The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-18 20:52 +0100
Re: OT - temperatures Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-10-17 18:33 +0000
Re: OT - temperatures rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-17 18:57 +0000
Re: OT - temperatures "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-17 22:03 +0200
Re: OT - temperatures "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-17 22:38 +0200
Re: OT - temperatures rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-18 01:40 +0000
Re: OT - temperatures "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-18 14:28 +0200
Re: OT - temperatures The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-18 13:59 +0100
Re: OT - temperatures "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-18 21:02 +0200
Re: OT - temperatures The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-18 20:45 +0100
Re: OT - temperatures The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-18 13:03 +0100
Re: OT - temperatures rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-17 03:26 +0000
Re: OT - temperatures Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-17 09:07 +0100
Re: OT - temperatures The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-17 09:45 +0100
Re: OT - temperatures Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-10-17 18:33 +0000
Re: OT - temperatures The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-18 12:55 +0100
Re: OT - temperatures rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-17 19:10 +0000
Re: OT - temperatures "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-13 13:01 +0200
Re: OT - temperatures The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-13 14:33 +0100
Re: OT - temperatures "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-13 17:40 +0200
Re: OT - temperatures The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-13 19:04 +0100
Re: OT - TV rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-11 18:26 +0000
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-12 11:07 +0100
Re: OT - TV rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-09 02:28 +0000
Re: OT - TV "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-09 22:32 +0200
Re: OT - TV rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-10 00:46 +0000
Re: OT - TV "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-10 19:29 +0200
Re: OT - TV "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-09 22:20 +0200
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-09 22:32 +0100
Re: OT - TV Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-10-09 23:08 +0000
Re: OT - TV "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-10 19:34 +0200
Re: OT - TV rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-10 19:30 +0000
Re: OT - TV "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-10 21:56 +0200
Re: OT - TV Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-10-11 21:15 +1100
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-11 11:23 +0100
Re: OT - TV Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-10-11 22:15 +1100
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-11 14:52 +0100
Re: OT - TV Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-10-11 15:54 +0000
Re: OT - TV "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-10-11 18:35 +0100
Re: OT - TV John Williamson <johnwilliamson@btinternet.com> - 2026-10-11 18:52 +0100
Re: OT - TV "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-10-11 20:10 +0100
Re: OT - TV NY <me@privacy.net> - 2026-10-11 20:54 +0100
Re: OT - TV rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-12 03:26 +0000
Re: OT - TV Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-10-12 18:11 +1100
Re: OT - TV Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-10-12 02:24 +0000
Re: OT - TV rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-12 03:49 +0000
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-12 10:58 +0100
Re: OT - TV rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-12 18:17 +0000
Re: OT - TV Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-10-12 16:27 +0000
Re: OT - TV "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-10-12 07:23 +0100
Re: OT - TV c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-10-12 03:13 -0400
Re: OT - TV Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-10-12 21:07 +1100
Re: OT - TV "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-10-12 18:21 +0100
Re: OT - TV rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-12 18:26 +0000
Re: OT - TV Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-10-13 22:36 +1100
Re: OT - TV Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-10-12 18:17 +1100
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-12 10:55 +0100
Re: OT - TV Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-10-12 18:09 +1100
Re: OT - TV rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-11 18:02 +0000
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-12 11:01 +0100
Re: OT - TV Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-10-12 17:58 +1100
Re: OT - TV rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-11 17:46 +0000
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-12 11:02 +0100
Re: OT - TV "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-11 15:18 +0200
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-11 14:59 +0100
Re: OT - TV "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-11 21:29 +0200
Re: OT - TV "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-10-11 23:46 +0100
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-12 10:48 +0100
Re: OT - TV "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-10-12 18:28 +0100
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-12 19:11 +0100
Re: OT - TV Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-10-12 22:35 +0000
Re: OT - TV "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-10-13 01:26 +0100
Re: OT - TV Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-10-13 06:16 +0000
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-13 08:27 +0100
Re: OT - TV "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-10-13 18:40 +0100
Re: OT - TV "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-13 20:54 +0200
Re: OT - TV Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-10-13 19:57 +0100
Re: OT - TV "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-13 21:10 +0200
Re: OT - TV Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-10-15 00:06 +1100
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-13 20:02 +0100
Re: OT - TV "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-10-13 20:21 +0100
Re: OT - TV "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-13 22:09 +0200
Re: OT - TV "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-10-13 22:02 +0100
Re: OT - TV Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-10-15 00:09 +1100
Re: OT - TV "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-10-14 14:31 +0100
Re: OT - TV rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-14 04:24 +0000
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-13 08:26 +0100
Re: OT - TV rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-13 17:21 +0000
Re: OT - TV "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-10-13 18:47 +0100
Re: OT - TV rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-14 03:53 +0000
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-14 08:54 +0100
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-13 19:27 +0100
Re: OT - TV Max Demian <max_demian@bigfoot.com> - 2026-10-14 11:30 +0100
Re: OT - TV Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-10-15 00:12 +1100
Re: OT - TV Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-15 00:44 +0100
Re: OT - TV JMB99 <mb@nospam.net> - 2026-10-13 12:08 +0100
Re: OT - TV "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-13 13:16 +0200
Re: OT - TV JMB99 <mb@nospam.net> - 2026-10-13 12:23 +0100
Re: OT - TV "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-10-13 18:52 +0100
Re: OT - TV Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-10-13 18:16 +0000
Re: OT - TV "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-10-13 19:47 +0100
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Re: OT - TV Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-10-01 03:32 -0400
Re: OT - TV "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-01 14:49 +0200
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-01 12:57 +0100
Re: OT - TV "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-01 15:19 +0200
Re: OT - TV Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> - 2026-10-01 14:34 +0000
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-01 15:51 +0100
Re: OT - TV Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> - 2026-10-02 06:52 +0000
Re: OT - TV Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-10-04 07:52 +0100
Re: OT - TV c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-10-04 03:15 -0400
Re: OT - TV "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-10-04 15:51 +0100
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-04 18:16 +0100
Re: OT - TV "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-27 13:12 +0200
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-25 10:06 +0100
Re: OT - TV "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-25 20:50 +0100
Re: OT - TV Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-09-26 01:31 +0000
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-26 04:21 +0100
Re: OT - TV "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-26 19:26 +0100
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-26 20:26 +0100
Re: OT - TV "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-26 20:37 +0100
Re: OT - TV Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-09-26 20:36 +0000
Re: OT - TV rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-09-27 00:03 +0000
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-27 08:21 +0100
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-27 08:15 +0100
Re: OT - TV "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-27 10:16 +0100
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-27 12:48 +0100
Re: OT - TV "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-27 16:16 +0100
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-27 08:07 +0100
Re: OT - TV "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-27 10:20 +0100
Re: OT - TV "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-27 13:18 +0200
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-27 13:06 +0100
Re: OT - TV "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-27 14:25 +0200
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-27 17:32 +0100
Re: OT - TV "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-27 16:22 +0100
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-27 17:34 +0100
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-27 12:50 +0100
Re: OT - TV "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-27 14:25 +0200
Re: OT - TV "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-27 16:25 +0100
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-27 17:32 +0100
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-27 17:30 +0100
Re: OT - TV Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-09-27 15:04 +0000
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-27 17:39 +0100
Re: OT - TV Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-09-27 19:58 +0000
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-28 09:13 +0100
Re: OT - TV Abandoned Trolley <that.bloke@microsoft.com> - 2026-09-28 09:39 +0100
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-28 11:26 +0100
Re: OT - TV "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-28 13:04 +0200
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-28 16:42 +0100
Re: OT - TV Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-09-28 16:45 +0000
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-28 17:53 +0100
Re: OT - TV Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-09-28 19:26 +0000
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-29 10:25 +0100
Re: OT - TV Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-09-29 09:43 +0000
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-29 10:56 +0100
Re: OT - TV Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-09-29 10:41 +0000
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-29 13:02 +0100
Re: OT - TV Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-09-29 13:39 +0000
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-29 15:04 +0100
Re: OT - TV Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-09-29 14:19 +0000
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-29 15:47 +0100
Re: OT - TV Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-09-29 20:01 +0000
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-30 01:06 +0100
Re: OT - TV "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-30 01:25 +0100
Re: OT - TV Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-09-30 01:15 +0000
Re: OT - TV Carlos <crazyhotwrse8@stinty.org> - 2026-10-03 20:41 -0400
Re: OT - TV "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-10-03 21:28 -0400
Re: OT - TV "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-29 17:16 +0100
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-29 18:50 +0100
[OT] - power (was: Re: OT - TV) "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-29 19:05 +0100
Re: [OT] - power The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-29 19:15 +0100
Re: [OT] - power "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-30 11:48 +0200
Re: [OT] - power The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-30 12:00 +0100
Re: [OT] - power c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-09-30 15:30 -0400
Re: [OT] - power The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-01 12:47 +0100
Re: [OT] - power Chris Abraham <chris@gerriscorp.com> - 2026-09-30 13:28 -0400
Re: [OT] - power The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-01 12:24 +0100
Re: OT - TV Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-09-29 14:58 -0400
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-30 01:04 +0100
Re: OT - TV "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-30 11:52 +0200
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-30 12:01 +0100
Re: OT - TV rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-09-30 17:36 +0000
Re: OT - TV "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-01 00:55 +0200
Re: OT - TV rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-01 03:57 +0000
Re: OT - TV Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-10-04 10:40 +0100
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-04 11:29 +0100
Re: OT - TV "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-10-04 15:59 +0100
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-04 18:25 +0100
[OT] energy (was: Re: OT - TV) "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-10-04 23:54 +0100
Re: [OT] energy (was: Re: OT - TV) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-05 00:57 +0000
Re: [OT] energy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-05 08:56 +0100
Re: [OT] energy "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-05 15:12 +0200
Re: [OT] energy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-05 16:04 +0100
Re: [OT] energy "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-05 19:31 +0200
Re: [OT] energy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-05 19:59 +0100
Re: [OT] energy rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-05 19:04 +0000
Re: [OT] energy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-05 20:19 +0100
Re: [OT] energy "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-05 21:41 +0200
Re: [OT] energy rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-06 01:39 +0000
Re: [OT] energy Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-07 10:27 +0100
Re: [OT] energy "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-07 12:09 +0200
Re: [OT] energy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-07 11:14 +0100
Re: [OT] energy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-06 08:27 +0100
Re: [OT] energy "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-06 12:06 +0200
Re: [OT] energy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-06 11:37 +0100
Re: [OT] energy "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-06 13:03 +0200
Re: [OT] energy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-06 12:26 +0100
Re: [OT] energy "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-06 13:45 +0200
Re: [OT] energy Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-10-06 03:52 +0000
Re: [OT] energy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-06 08:38 +0100
Re: [OT] energy Andreas Eder <a_eder_muc@web.de> - 2026-10-11 16:29 +0200
Re: [OT] energy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-12 10:51 +0100
Re: [OT] energy "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-12 13:30 +0200
Re: [OT] energy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-12 13:10 +0100
Re: [OT] energy "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-12 14:43 +0200
Re: [OT] energy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-12 14:10 +0100
Re: [OT] energy "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-12 19:54 +0200
Re: [OT] energy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-05 08:51 +0100
Re: [OT] energy c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-10-05 04:40 -0400
Re: [OT] energy "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-05 15:19 +0200
Re: [OT] energy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-05 16:20 +0100
Re: [OT] energy "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-05 19:32 +0200
Re: [OT] energy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-05 20:02 +0100
Re: [OT] energy Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-10-18 22:00 +1100
Re: [OT] energy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-18 13:24 +0100
Re: [OT] energy rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-18 17:57 +0000
Re: [OT] energy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-18 20:52 +0100
Re: [OT] energy rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-05 19:03 +0000
Re: [OT] energy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-05 20:13 +0100
Re: [OT] energy "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-05 21:42 +0200
Re: [OT] energy rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-06 01:37 +0000
Re: [OT] energy Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-07 10:42 +0100
Re: [OT] energy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-07 11:42 +0100
Re: [OT] energy rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-07 18:37 +0000
Re: [OT] energy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-08 07:47 +0100
Re: [OT] energy Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-08 01:20 +0100
Re: [OT] energy "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-08 14:03 +0200
Re: [OT] energy Andreas Eder <a_eder_muc@web.de> - 2026-10-11 16:28 +0200
Re: [OT] energy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-12 10:49 +0100
Re: [OT] energy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-06 08:35 +0100
Re: [OT] energy "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-06 11:01 +0200
Re: [OT] energy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-06 11:36 +0100
Re: [OT] energy "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-06 13:12 +0200
Re: [OT] energy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-06 12:52 +0100
Re: [OT] energy "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-06 14:01 +0200
Re: [OT] energy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-06 13:03 +0100
Re: [OT] energy "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-06 14:05 +0200
Re: [OT] energy Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-07 10:57 +0100
Re: [OT] energy "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-07 12:14 +0200
Re: [OT] energy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-07 11:51 +0100
Re: [OT] energy "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-08 14:06 +0200
Re: [OT] energy Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-10 12:26 +0100
Re: [OT] energy "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-10 20:11 +0200
Re: [OT] energy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-07 11:48 +0100
Re: [OT] energy "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-06 14:07 +0200
Re: [OT] energy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-06 13:38 +0100
Re: [OT] energy "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-06 14:46 +0200
Re: [OT] energy Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-07 11:03 +0100
Re: [OT] energy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-07 11:56 +0100
Re: [OT] energy rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-06 14:18 +0000
Re: [OT] energy Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-07 10:33 +0100
Re: [OT] energy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-07 11:22 +0100
Re: [OT] energy Andreas Eder <a_eder_muc@web.de> - 2026-10-11 14:14 +0200
Re: [OT] energy "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-11 21:33 +0200
Re: [OT] energy "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-10-11 23:47 +0100
Re: [OT] energy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-12 11:39 +0100
Re: [OT] energy "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-12 13:31 +0200
Re: [OT] energy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-12 11:39 +0100
Re: [OT] energy "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-12 13:35 +0200
Re: [OT] energy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-12 13:20 +0100
Re: [OT] energy "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-12 21:50 +0200
Re: [OT] energy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-13 08:20 +0100
Re: [OT] energy Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-10-12 23:18 +1100
Re: [OT] energy (was: Re: OT - TV) chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2026-10-05 06:40 -0500
Re: OT - TV Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-09-27 20:18 +1000
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-27 12:54 +0100
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-26 03:52 +0100
Re: OT - TV "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-26 19:41 +0100
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-26 20:36 +0100
Re: OT - TV Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-09-25 20:58 +1000
Re: OT - TV "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-25 20:56 +0100
Re: OT - TV Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-09-24 22:24 +1000
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-24 14:07 +0100
Re: OT - TV Abandoned Trolley <that.bloke@microsoft.com> - 2026-09-24 12:53 +0100
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-24 14:09 +0100
Re: OT - TV rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-09-24 18:56 +0000
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-25 10:47 +0100
Re: Killer price on a mini PC The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-23 10:01 +0100
OT - TV (was: Re: Killer price on a mini PC) "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-23 14:42 +0100
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-23 15:04 +0100
Re: OT - TV "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-23 15:55 +0100
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-24 12:18 +0100
Re: OT - TV "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-24 19:50 +0100
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-25 10:34 +0100
Re: OT - TV "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-25 21:10 +0100
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-26 04:29 +0100
Re: OT - TV rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-09-26 05:12 +0000
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-26 10:02 +0100
Re: OT - TV rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-09-26 13:52 +0000
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-26 15:41 +0100
Re: OT - TV rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-09-26 19:35 +0000
Re: OT - TV Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-09-25 21:30 +1000
Re: OT - TV Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2026-09-25 19:54 +0000
Re: OT - TV "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-25 21:14 +0100
Re: OT - TV Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> - 2026-09-26 12:38 +0000
Re: OT - TV "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-26 20:06 +0100
Re: OT - TV Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> - 2026-09-27 09:16 +0000
Re: OT - TV "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-27 10:30 +0100
Re: OT - TV "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-27 13:24 +0200
Re: OT - TV Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> - 2026-09-27 14:35 +0000
Re: OT - TV rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-09-27 18:36 +0000
Re: OT - TV "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-28 14:02 +0200
Re: OT - TV Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2026-09-27 19:09 +0000
Re: OT - TV "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-28 14:03 +0200
Re: OT - TV Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> - 2026-09-28 14:46 +0000
Re: OT - TV "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-29 09:22 +0200
Re: OT - TV Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> - 2026-09-29 09:00 +0000
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-29 10:49 +0100
Re: OT - TV rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-09-29 18:46 +0000
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-30 01:02 +0100
Re: OT - TV rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-09-30 01:57 +0000
Re: OT - TV Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-09-30 22:07 +1000
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-30 14:30 +0100
Re: OT - TV rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-09-30 17:42 +0000
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-01 11:12 +0100
Re: OT - TV rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-01 20:51 +0000
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-02 13:31 +0100
Re: OT - TV "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-30 11:55 +0200
Re: OT - TV Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> - 2026-09-30 12:50 +0000
Re: OT - TV rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-09-30 17:35 +0000
Re: OT - TV c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-09-30 23:02 -0400
Re: OT - TV Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> - 2026-10-01 06:19 +0000
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-01 12:27 +0100
Re: OT - TV rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-01 20:22 +0000
Re: OT - TV rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-01 20:20 +0000
Re: OT - TV Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> - 2026-10-02 06:57 +0000
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-02 13:22 +0100
Re: OT - TV Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> - 2026-10-02 12:43 +0000
Re: OT - TV rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-02 19:21 +0000
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-02 20:58 +0100
Re: OT - TV rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-03 01:09 +0000
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-03 09:08 +0100
Re: OT - TV rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-03 19:28 +0000
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-04 09:14 +0100
Re: OT - TV "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-04 12:11 +0200
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-04 11:29 +0100
Re: OT - TV "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-04 13:31 +0200
Re: OT - TV rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-04 17:44 +0000
Re: OT - TV "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-04 20:19 +0200
Re: OT - TV rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-04 17:37 +0000
Re: OT - TV "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-04 20:29 +0200
Re: OT - TV c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-10-04 23:56 -0400
Re: OT - TV "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-02 20:19 +0200
Re: OT - TV "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-02 20:25 +0200
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-02 20:12 +0100
Re: OT - TV rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-03 00:48 +0000
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-03 09:05 +0100
Re: OT - TV "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-03 13:43 +0200
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-02 20:09 +0100
Re: OT - TV "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-02 21:49 +0200
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-02 21:02 +0100
Re: OT - TV "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-02 22:18 +0200
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-02 21:33 +0100
Re: OT - TV rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-03 00:58 +0000
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-03 09:07 +0100
Re: OT - TV Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> - 2026-10-02 07:07 +0000
Re: OT - TV rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-02 18:33 +0000
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-02 13:13 +0100
Re: OT - TV rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-02 19:06 +0000
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-02 20:51 +0100
Re: OT - TV rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-03 02:41 +0000
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-03 09:31 +0100
Re: OT - TV rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-03 19:11 +0000
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-04 09:10 +0100
Re: OT - TV rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-04 18:00 +0000
Re: OT - TV Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-10-04 18:33 +0000
Re: OT - TV rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-05 00:40 +0000
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-05 08:57 +0100
Re: OT - TV Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-10-04 10:44 +0100
Re: OT - TV rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-04 18:08 +0000
Re: OT - TV "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-01 00:59 +0200
Re: OT - TV Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> - 2026-10-01 06:12 +0000
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-01 13:02 +0100
Re: OT - TV "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-01 15:28 +0200
Re: OT - TV Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> - 2026-10-01 14:28 +0000
Re: OT - TV rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-01 21:03 +0000
Re: OT - TV rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-09-30 17:27 +0000
Re: OT - TV Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-09-30 18:27 +0000
Re: OT - TV "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-01 01:03 +0200
Re: OT - TV rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-01 03:31 +0000
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-01 11:29 +0100
Re: OT - TV "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-10-01 02:10 +0100
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-01 11:23 +0100
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Re: OT - TV Robert Riches <spamtrap42@jacob21819.net> - 2026-10-02 03:59 +0000
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| From | "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-10-14 12:34 +0200 |
| Subject | Re: OT - TV |
| Message-ID | <0e24qmxdet.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> |
| In reply to | #93627 |
On 2026-10-14 01:52, Charlie Gibbs wrote: > On 2026-10-13, Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> wrote: > >> "Carlos E.R." wrote: >> >>> start-stop system. I had one, and I liked it; an Opel Corsa diesel. It >>> saves some fuel on city traffic. It just stops the motor when you are >>> stopped in neutral. Mine restarted the motor after a few minutes, or of >>> course, when footing the clutch. It is not an hybrid. >>> >>> I saw another model from Peugeot that used a secondary battery for this >>> system. >>> >>> Some cars use the alternator to start. >> >> My last one did that, needed a larger battery than normal. >> Had to have a new fan belt and pulley tensioner at 2 years old (warranty >> replacement) > > Just out of curiosity, how's the starter life on these cars? > The starter is being used probably 10 times as much as > cars that don't stop and start at every light. > > A mechanic friend pointed out that there is also 10 times > as great a probability that you're going to break a tooth > on the flywheel. That would get into big bucks. > Which is why some use the alternator for this task. Those parts are just built better and sturdier :-D I did not find out on mine, because I sold it when the power steering (electric) gave up early. I'm not happy with Opel quality. -- Cheers, Carlos. ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;
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| From | "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-10-14 12:31 +0200 |
| Subject | Re: OT - TV |
| Message-ID | <u824qmxdet.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> |
| In reply to | #93626 |
On 2026-10-14 00:15, Andy Burns wrote: > "Carlos E.R." wrote: > >> start-stop system. I had one, and I liked it; an Opel Corsa diesel. It >> saves some fuel on city traffic. It just stops the motor when you are >> stopped in neutral. Mine restarted the motor after a few minutes, or >> of course, when footing the clutch. It is not an hybrid. >> >> I saw another model from Peugeot that used a secondary battery for >> this system. >> >> Some cars use the alternator to start. > > My last one did that, needed a larger battery than normal. > Had to have a new fan belt and pulley tensioner at 2 years old (warranty > replacement) Fan belt? You actually had a fan moved by a belt? I have not seen that in forty years, here (AFAIK) all the fans are electric. Unless "fan belt" is just the name. Typically the belt moves the alternator, the water pump, maybe the air conditioner compressor... Some brands had the bright idea of having a cam shaft rubber belt submerged in oil (groan). -- Cheers, Carlos. ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;
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| From | The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-10-14 13:21 +0100 |
| Subject | Re: OT - TV |
| Message-ID | <11ans3f$1dpa5$9@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #93672 |
On 14/10/2026 11:31, Carlos E.R. wrote:
> On 2026-10-14 00:15, Andy Burns wrote:
>> "Carlos E.R." wrote:
>>
>>> start-stop system. I had one, and I liked it; an Opel Corsa diesel.
>>> It saves some fuel on city traffic. It just stops the motor when you
>>> are stopped in neutral. Mine restarted the motor after a few minutes,
>>> or of course, when footing the clutch. It is not an hybrid.
>>>
>>> I saw another model from Peugeot that used a secondary battery for
>>> this system.
>>>
>>> Some cars use the alternator to start.
>>
>> My last one did that, needed a larger battery than normal.
>> Had to have a new fan belt and pulley tensioner at 2 years old
>> (warranty replacement)
>
> Fan belt? You actually had a fan moved by a belt? I have not seen that
> in forty years, here (AFAIK) all the fans are electric.
>
> Unless "fan belt" is just the name.
>
we tend to call it a fan belt even when its really an auxiliiary drive belt
Types of Vehicles Equipped with Viscous Fans
Classic and Modern Rear-Wheel Drive Cars: Many traditional RWD
sedans and sports cars (such as older Mercedes-Benz models like the
Mercedes-Benz W108/W109, BMW/ZRoadster RWD platforms, and various
classic European or Japanese tourers) rely on a belt-driven mechanical
viscous fan.
Off-Road and 4WD SUVs: Rugged, utility-focused 4x4s—most famously
older Land Rover variants (like the 300TDI and V8 models), Toyota Land
Cruisers, Jeeps, and Nissan Patrols—use viscous fans because they
deliver high, reliable airflow during slow-speed rock crawling or heavy
idling where electric fans might struggle.
Light Commercial & Sprinter Vans: Delivery and utility vans (such
as Mercedes-Benz Sprinters) frequently utilize viscous fan clutches to
handle heavy payload heat management.
Heavy-Duty Trucks & Commercial Vehicles: Long-haul semi-trucks,
medium-duty delivery trucks, agricultural tractors, and construction or
mining machinery heavily rely on viscous or electronically modulated
viscous fan drives for massive cooling capacity
> Typically the belt moves the alternator, the water pump, maybe the air
> conditioner compressor...
>
Only in your extremely limited experience
> Some brands had the bright idea of having a cam shaft rubber belt
> submerged in oil (groan).
>
yes, Cam belts are quiet, in oil they are even quieter, They have even
more limited life
--
You can get much farther with a kind word and a gun than you can with a
kind word alone.
Al Capone
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| From | Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> |
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| Date | 2026-10-14 13:31 +0100 |
| Subject | Re: OT - TV |
| Message-ID | <nj9b0nF3fagU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #93677 |
The Natural Philosopher wrote: > Carlos E.R. wrote: > >> Andy Burns wrote: >> >>> Had to have a new fan belt and pulley tensioner at 2 years old >>> (warranty replacement) >> >> Fan belt? You actually had a fan moved by a belt? I have not seen that >> in forty years, here (AFAIK) all the fans are electric. >> Unless "fan belt" is just the name. > > we tend to call it a fan belt even when its really an auxiliiary drive belt I thought I'd written fan in scare quotes ...
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| From | "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> |
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| Date | 2026-10-14 14:48 +0100 |
| Subject | Re: OT - TV |
| Message-ID | <11ao17h$1h604$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #93678 |
On 2026/10/14 13:31:18, Andy Burns wrote: > The Natural Philosopher wrote: [] >> we tend to call it a fan belt even when its really an auxiliiary drive belt (You and others beat me to that.)> > I thought I'd written fan in scare quotes ... > When did "quotes" become "scare quotes"? (Not getting at you, Andy; I've noticed this creeping in in such contexts lately. The above line would have had exactly the same meaning without "scare".) -- J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()ALIS-Ch++(p)Ar++T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf I'm a social vegan - I avoid meet
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2026-10-14 18:54 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: OT - TV |
| Message-ID | <nja1eaFc9lcU35@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #93677 |
On Wed, 14 Oct 2026 13:21:03 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote: > yes, Cam belts are quiet, in oil they are even quieter, They have even > more limited life One thing I like about the Toyota engine in my car is the gear driven cams. Belts and interference engines aren't a good combination. I had a Geo (rebranded Suzuki) with a serpentine belt. I replaced it at 80k to be on the safe side.
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| From | The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-10-15 10:17 +0100 |
| Subject | Re: OT - TV |
| Message-ID | <11aq5n1$27tro$7@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #93708 |
On 14/10/2026 19:54, rbowman wrote: > On Wed, 14 Oct 2026 13:21:03 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote: > >> yes, Cam belts are quiet, in oil they are even quieter, They have even >> more limited life > > One thing I like about the Toyota engine in my car is the gear driven > cams. Belts and interference engines aren't a good combination. I had a > Geo (rebranded Suzuki) with a serpentine belt. I replaced it at 80k to be > on the safe side. Yeah. broke two cam belts in my time Both at more or less idle speeds. Both on Vauxhall (UK GM brand) OHC engines, Both just needed new alloy rockers which had broken. Valves stayed OK. Steel stronger than alloy, -- "An intellectual is a person knowledgeable in one field who speaks out only in others...” Tom Wolfe
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| From | Rich <rich@example.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-10-15 15:34 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: OT - TV |
| Message-ID | <11aqrpc$2gp8o$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #93738 |
The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote: > On 14/10/2026 19:54, rbowman wrote: >> On Wed, 14 Oct 2026 13:21:03 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote: >> >>> yes, Cam belts are quiet, in oil they are even quieter, They have even >>> more limited life >> >> One thing I like about the Toyota engine in my car is the gear driven >> cams. Belts and interference engines aren't a good combination. I had a >> Geo (rebranded Suzuki) with a serpentine belt. I replaced it at 80k to be >> on the safe side. > > Yeah. broke two cam belts in my time > > Both at more or less idle speeds. Both on Vauxhall (UK GM brand) OHC > engines, Both just needed new alloy rockers which had broken. > > Valves stayed OK. Steel stronger than alloy, You were lucky then (and that luck may have had much to do with the engine design). For most interference engines, the stronger steel valve ends up punching a hole in the top of the piston (usually aluminum alloy). Sometimes the collision also bends the valve stem. Both leading to a significantly higher repair cost.
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| From | The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-10-15 19:13 +0100 |
| Subject | Re: OT - TV |
| Message-ID | <11ar541$2kl9o$7@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #93756 |
On 15/10/2026 16:34, Rich wrote: > The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote: >> On 14/10/2026 19:54, rbowman wrote: >>> On Wed, 14 Oct 2026 13:21:03 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote: >>> >>>> yes, Cam belts are quiet, in oil they are even quieter, They have even >>>> more limited life >>> >>> One thing I like about the Toyota engine in my car is the gear driven >>> cams. Belts and interference engines aren't a good combination. I had a >>> Geo (rebranded Suzuki) with a serpentine belt. I replaced it at 80k to be >>> on the safe side. >> >> Yeah. broke two cam belts in my time >> >> Both at more or less idle speeds. Both on Vauxhall (UK GM brand) OHC >> engines, Both just needed new alloy rockers which had broken. >> >> Valves stayed OK. Steel stronger than alloy, > > You were lucky then (and that luck may have had much to do with the > engine design). For most interference engines, the stronger steel > valve ends up punching a hole in the top of the piston (usually > aluminum alloy). Sometimes the collision also bends the valve stem. > Both leading to a significantly higher repair cost. That is the case with some engines, but in my case the failures were both at very low RPM. And the alloy rockers may possibly have been designed to be weak. -- New Socialism consists essentially in being seen to have your heart in the right place whilst your head is in the clouds and your hand is in someone else's pocket.
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2026-10-14 18:50 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: OT - TV |
| Message-ID | <nja17oFc9lcU34@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #93672 |
On Wed, 14 Oct 2026 12:31:26 +0200, Carlos E.R. wrote: > Fan belt? You actually had a fan moved by a belt? I have not seen that > in forty years, here (AFAIK) all the fans are electric. My pickup has a fan belt but it's an '86 so meets your 40 year criteria. It took me a while to get used to electric fans. When I turn a car off I expect it to stay off and not suddenly produce whirring noises.
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| From | "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> |
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| Date | 2026-10-14 20:13 +0100 |
| Subject | Re: OT - TV |
| Message-ID | <11aok8q$1p5sd$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #93707 |
On 2026/10/14 19:50:32, rbowman wrote: > On Wed, 14 Oct 2026 12:31:26 +0200, Carlos E.R. wrote: > >> Fan belt? You actually had a fan moved by a belt? I have not seen that >> in forty years, here (AFAIK) all the fans are electric. > > My pickup has a fan belt but it's an '86 so meets your 40 year criteria. > It took me a while to get used to electric fans. When I turn a car off I > expect it to stay off and not suddenly produce whirring noises. Presumably that happens because, once the coolant is no longer circulating as the engine is not running, residual heat can exceed some threshold. The car with the belt-driven fan is either designed with different thresholds, or just hopes for the best. -- J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()ALIS-Ch++(p)Ar++T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf -I said to myself, "If it's my time to go to hell, I'm takin' him with me." - 82-yo lady bodybuilder after beating up a burglar (odJRDx3tA0w)
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| From | "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-10-14 21:38 +0200 |
| Subject | Re: OT - TV |
| Message-ID | <ha25qmxpnl.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> |
| In reply to | #93710 |
On 2026-10-14 21:13, J. P. Gilliver wrote: > On 2026/10/14 19:50:32, rbowman wrote: >> On Wed, 14 Oct 2026 12:31:26 +0200, Carlos E.R. wrote: >> >>> Fan belt? You actually had a fan moved by a belt? I have not seen that >>> in forty years, here (AFAIK) all the fans are electric. >> >> My pickup has a fan belt but it's an '86 so meets your 40 year criteria. >> It took me a while to get used to electric fans. When I turn a car off I >> expect it to stay off and not suddenly produce whirring noises. > > Presumably that happens because, once the coolant is no longer > circulating as the engine is not running, residual heat can exceed some > threshold. The car with the belt-driven fan is either designed with > different thresholds, or just hopes for the best. The electric fan is a wonderful invention. You get liberty for placing the radiator and its fan, and the motor. Independent speeds, so if the water is going too hot, the fan just runs faster (no longer needing to downshift to cool the engine). The motor heats up fast. The temperature indicator is always indicating the best temperature and never moves a millilitre. I remember one come back to our home city from the regional capital city: just 50 km with a sierra in between. The water boiled, we had to stop two or three times. The radiator had occlusions, it was not working right. My father had to replace it, which was complicated because the brand had disappeared from Spain and shops were out of spares (Austin-Morris). I think he got one in good shape from a scrap yard. That was the second time. The first was because the radiator was perforated, because the rainwater he used was corrosive. The mechanic explained that special radiator water was sold with additives that impeded corrosion. I remember he placing a washing basin in the middle of the patio in mid rain to collect clean rain water for the car... he said it was the same as distilled water, but gratis. -- Cheers, Carlos. ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2026-10-15 01:01 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: OT - TV |
| Message-ID | <njamv9Fc9lcU43@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #93717 |
On Wed, 14 Oct 2026 21:38:25 +0200, Carlos E.R. wrote: > I remember he placing a washing basin in the middle of the patio in mid > rain to collect clean rain water for the car... he said it was the same > as distilled water, but gratis. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acid_rain I haven't heard about acid rain for a while. Chicken Little has moved on to other topics.
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| From | The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-10-15 10:12 +0100 |
| Subject | Re: OT - TV |
| Message-ID | <11aq5do$27tro$6@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #93725 |
On 15/10/2026 02:01, rbowman wrote: > On Wed, 14 Oct 2026 21:38:25 +0200, Carlos E.R. wrote: > >> I remember he placing a washing basin in the middle of the patio in mid >> rain to collect clean rain water for the car... he said it was the same >> as distilled water, but gratis. > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acid_rain > > I haven't heard about acid rain for a while. Chicken Little has moved on > to other topics. Well it was all about high sulphur coal power stations and so on. Only really Germany and Poland run them, The rest have either been fitted with scrubbers or shut down -- "An intellectual is a person knowledgeable in one field who speaks out only in others...” Tom Wolfe
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| From | "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-10-15 15:18 +0200 |
| Subject | Re: OT - TV |
| Message-ID | <re07qmxta8.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> |
| In reply to | #93725 |
On 2026-10-15 03:01, rbowman wrote: > On Wed, 14 Oct 2026 21:38:25 +0200, Carlos E.R. wrote: > >> I remember he placing a washing basin in the middle of the patio in mid >> rain to collect clean rain water for the car... he said it was the same >> as distilled water, but gratis. > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acid_rain > > I haven't heard about acid rain for a while. Chicken Little has moved on > to other topics. Yes, that's when we started knowing about it. I hope there is no doubt that this is man made... -- Cheers, Carlos. ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;
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| From | "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-10-14 21:24 +0200 |
| Subject | Re: OT - TV |
| Message-ID | <8h15qmx0ck.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> |
| In reply to | #93707 |
On 2026-10-14 20:50, rbowman wrote: > On Wed, 14 Oct 2026 12:31:26 +0200, Carlos E.R. wrote: > >> Fan belt? You actually had a fan moved by a belt? I have not seen that >> in forty years, here (AFAIK) all the fans are electric. > > My pickup has a fan belt but it's an '86 so meets your 40 year criteria. > It took me a while to get used to electric fans. When I turn a car off I > expect it to stay off and not suddenly produce whirring noises. And when you start the car, it is silent :-) -- Cheers, Carlos. ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;
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| From | Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-10-14 19:34 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: OT - TV |
| Message-ID | <TOQzS.12$1l6.1@fx42.iad> |
| In reply to | #93707 |
On 2026-10-14, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote: > On Wed, 14 Oct 2026 12:31:26 +0200, Carlos E.R. wrote: > >> Fan belt? You actually had a fan moved by a belt? I have not seen that >> in forty years, here (AFAIK) all the fans are electric. > > My pickup has a fan belt but it's an '86 so meets your 40 year criteria. My '84 Civic had a toothed fan belt. One day the water pump seized and stripped the teeth off - except that those clever Japanese engineers had offset the various pulleys slightly. There was a quarter of an inch of teeth left on one edge that was enough to turn the camshaft, which turned a potential disaster into a situation where I could limp to the mechanic. > It took me a while to get used to electric fans. When I turn a car off I > expect it to stay off and not suddenly produce whirring noises. And turn the lights off immediately, dammit. -- /~\ Charlie Gibbs | In this world there are \ / <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> | two kinds of people: X I'm really at ac.dekanfrus | 1. Those who can extrapolate / \ if you read it the right way. | from incomplete data.
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| From | Robert Riches <spamtrap42@jacob21819.net> |
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| Date | 2026-10-14 22:44 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: OT - TV |
| Message-ID | <slrn11d01e5.lma.spamtrap42@one.localnet> |
| In reply to | #93716 |
On 2026-10-14, Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> wrote: > On 2026-10-14, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote: > >> On Wed, 14 Oct 2026 12:31:26 +0200, Carlos E.R. wrote: >> >>> Fan belt? You actually had a fan moved by a belt? I have not seen that >>> in forty years, here (AFAIK) all the fans are electric. >> >> My pickup has a fan belt but it's an '86 so meets your 40 year criteria. > > My '84 Civic had a toothed fan belt. One day the water pump seized > and stripped the teeth off - except that those clever Japanese engineers > had offset the various pulleys slightly. There was a quarter of an > inch of teeth left on one edge that was enough to turn the camshaft, > which turned a potential disaster into a situation where I could limp > to the mechanic. > >> It took me a while to get used to electric fans. When I turn a car off I >> expect it to stay off and not suddenly produce whirring noises. > > And turn the lights off immediately, dammit. There's an apocryphal story from the time when time-delay headlights were very new and only a few vehicles had them. The story goes that a man drove his Cadillac to a restaurant and parked it. As he was walking toward the restaurant, someone told him his headlights were still on. He had measured the delay and was perhaps counting down the time. He acknowledged the "helpful" other person, turned around, and pointed a finger at the car, just in time for the lights to turn off. The story does not mention him being charged with impersonating a magician. :-) Oh, my 1999 Suburban and Tahoe have belt-driven fans. For the semi-periodic water pump replacements over the years, I should have bought a 36mm wrench and a pin spanner when the first water pump failed. Oh, well. Better Nate than Lever. -- Robert Riches spamtrap42@jacob21819.net (Yes, that is one of my email addresses.)
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2026-10-15 01:33 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: OT - TV |
| Message-ID | <njaorfFc9lcU47@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #93723 |
On 14 Oct 2026 22:44:21 GMT, Robert Riches wrote: > There's an apocryphal story from the time when time-delay headlights > were very new and only a few vehicles had them. The story goes that a > man drove his Cadillac to a restaurant and parked it. As he was walking > toward the restaurant, someone told him his headlights were still on. > He had measured the delay and was perhaps counting down the time. He > acknowledged the "helpful" other person, turned around, and pointed a > finger at the car, just in time for the lights to turn off. The story > does not mention him being charged with impersonating a magician. The previous Toyota had daylight running lights. I had helpful people tell me the tail lights were broken when they saw the headlights were on. One of the not so helpful people was a cop that pulled me over. I'd left work at dusk and the drls were bright enough that I didn't think to turn the real headlights on. The cop was skeptical until I demonstrated I did indeed have working tailights when I turned the headlights on. This one has a drl position on the stalk but it's optional.
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| From | Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-10-15 18:18 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: OT - TV |
| Message-ID | <uN8AS.48552$2tx2.22500@fx24.iad> |
| In reply to | #93729 |
On 2026-10-15, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote: > On 14 Oct 2026 22:44:21 GMT, Robert Riches wrote: > >> There's an apocryphal story from the time when time-delay headlights >> were very new and only a few vehicles had them. The story goes that a >> man drove his Cadillac to a restaurant and parked it. As he was walking >> toward the restaurant, someone told him his headlights were still on. >> He had measured the delay and was perhaps counting down the time. He >> acknowledged the "helpful" other person, turned around, and pointed a >> finger at the car, just in time for the lights to turn off. The story >> does not mention him being charged with impersonating a magician. When I heard the story the person turned around, pursed his lips, and pretended to blow the headlights out. Fun either way. > The previous Toyota had daylight running lights. I had helpful people tell > me the tail lights were broken when they saw the headlights were on. One > of the not so helpful people was a cop that pulled me over. I'd left work > at dusk and the drls were bright enough that I didn't think to turn the > real headlights on. The cop was skeptical until I demonstrated I did > indeed have working tailights when I turned the headlights on. > > This one has a drl position on the stalk but it's optional. This is another example of the law of unintended consequences. Thanks to daytime running lights I've noticed an increase in the number of cars driving at night (or at dusk or in the rain) with no tail lights. What I find paradoxical is that since many cars implement DRL using the high-beam filaments, turning your headlight switch to the "on" positition actually _decreases_ the amount of light reaching the eyes of others on the road. Yes, the lights are attenuated somewhat, but on most cars they're still objectionably bright. It was particularly bad on our 1998 Honda CR-V, but that vehicle suffered a mysterious failure (wink, wink) which caused the DRL feature to quit working. -- /~\ Charlie Gibbs | In this world there are \ / <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> | two kinds of people: X I'm really at ac.dekanfrus | 1. Those who can extrapolate / \ if you read it the right way. | from incomplete data.
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