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What's Wrong With LinuxMint ?

Started byc186282 <c186282@nnada.net>
First post2026-08-18 01:44 -0400
Last post2026-08-19 22:21 -0400
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  What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-18 01:44 -0400
    Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-18 01:59 -0400
    Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-18 06:05 +0000
      Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? vallor <vallor@vallor.earth> - 2026-08-18 08:10 +0000
        Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-08-18 11:33 +0100
        Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-18 22:16 -0400
          Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-19 03:32 +0000
            Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-19 14:05 +0100
              Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-08-19 13:23 +0000
                Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-19 14:10 +0000
                Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-19 15:15 +0100
                  Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-19 21:53 +0000
                    Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-08-19 22:54 +0000
                      Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? Anton Antimo <anton@safunu.org> - 2026-08-20 10:31 -0300
                        Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-21 13:10 +0100
                    Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? Anton Antimo <anton@safunu.org> - 2026-08-20 10:30 -0300
                      Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-08-20 18:04 +0000
              Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-19 14:01 +0000
                Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-19 15:24 +0100
                  Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-19 22:07 +0000
                  Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-08-22 04:02 +0000
                    Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-22 06:48 +0000
                      Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-08-22 16:15 +0000
                        Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? vallor <vallor@vallor.earth> - 2026-08-23 21:52 +0000
                          Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-24 01:07 +0000
                            Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-24 11:15 +0100
                              Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-24 19:26 +0000
                                Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-25 11:45 +0100
                                  Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-25 18:39 +0000
                                Power lines Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> - 2026-08-25 06:48 -0700
                                  Re: Power lines The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-25 15:10 +0100
                                    Re: Power lines Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> - 2026-08-26 18:04 -0700
                                      Re: Power lines c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-27 03:23 -0400
                                        Re: Power lines The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-27 12:09 +0100
                                          Re: Power lines c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-27 22:15 -0400
                                            Re: Power lines rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-28 03:21 +0000
                                              Re: Power lines c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-28 02:42 -0400
                                                Re: Power lines The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-28 13:15 +0100
                                                Re: Power lines rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-28 18:40 +0000
                                                  Re: Power lines The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-29 10:37 +0100
                                                    Re: Power lines rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-29 20:13 +0000
                                                      Re: Power lines "Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2026-08-29 21:28 +0100
                                                        Re: Power lines The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-29 23:23 +0100
                                                          Re: Power lines rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-29 22:47 +0000
                                                      Re: Power lines The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-29 23:20 +0100
                                                        Re: Power lines "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-08-30 13:43 +0200
                                                          Re: Power lines Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-08-30 15:49 +0000
                                                            Re: Power lines rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-30 18:40 +0000
                                                              Re: Power lines "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-08-30 21:23 +0200
                                                                Re: Power lines rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-30 19:36 +0000
                                                                  Re: Power lines Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-08-31 15:50 +0000
                                                                    Re: Power lines c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-09-01 02:55 -0400
                                                                      Re: Power lines rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-09-01 07:41 +0000
                                                                        Re: Power lines c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-09-01 03:49 -0400
                                                                          Re: Power lines The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-01 13:17 +0100
                                                                            Re: Power lines rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-09-01 18:24 +0000
                                                                            Re: Power lines c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-09-02 01:33 -0400
                                                                              Re: Power lines The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-02 11:43 +0100
                                                                        Re: Power lines The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-01 13:15 +0100
                                                                          Re: Power lines c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-09-02 01:32 -0400
                                                                      Re: Power lines The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-01 13:12 +0100
                                                                        Re: Power lines Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-09-01 18:14 +0000
                                                                          Re: Power lines The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-01 19:22 +0100
                                                                            Re: Power lines rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-09-01 21:06 +0000
                                                                              Re: Power lines Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-09-01 23:40 +0000
                                                                              Re: Power lines The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-02 11:32 +0100
                                                                            Re: Power lines Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-09-01 23:40 +0000
                                                                        Re: Power lines c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-09-02 01:28 -0400
                                                                          Re: Power lines The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-02 11:41 +0100
                                                                    Re: Power lines The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-01 13:04 +0100
                                              Re: Power lines The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-28 13:09 +0100
                                            Re: Power lines The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-28 13:06 +0100
                                        Re: Power lines rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-27 14:19 +0000
                                          Re: Power lines The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-27 15:25 +0100
                                          Re: Power lines c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-27 22:24 -0400
                                            Re: Power lines The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-28 13:18 +0100
                                              Re: Power lines Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> - 2026-08-28 05:56 -0700
                                                Re: Power lines The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-28 15:33 +0100
                                                  Re: Power lines Robert Riches <spamtrap42@jacob21819.net> - 2026-08-28 16:06 +0000
                                                    Re: Power lines The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-29 10:30 +0100
                                                Re: Power lines rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-28 18:51 +0000
                                                  Re: Power lines The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-29 10:39 +0100
                                                    Re: Power lines rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-29 20:26 +0000
                                                      Re: Power lines The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-29 23:25 +0100
                              Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-25 01:46 -0400
                                Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-25 11:50 +0100
                                  Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-25 18:43 +0000
                                    Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-26 04:07 -0400
                                      Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? Enoch Powell <e.powell@tutanatu.kom> - 2026-08-27 10:54 -0600
                                        Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-27 19:11 +0100
                                          Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? Enoch Powell <e.powell@tutanatu.kom> - 2026-08-27 12:57 -0600
                                            Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-28 12:55 +0100
                                              Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-28 18:25 +0000
                                          Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-28 00:27 +0100
                                            Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-28 00:45 -0400
                                            Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-28 13:02 +0100
                                              Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? Robert Riches <spamtrap42@jacob21819.net> - 2026-08-28 16:13 +0000
                                                Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-29 10:32 +0100
                                                  Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-29 19:38 +0000
                                                    Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-29 22:57 +0100
                                                      Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-30 06:10 +0000
                                        Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-27 22:55 -0400
                                  Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-25 23:34 -0400
                                    Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? Robert Riches <spamtrap42@jacob21819.net> - 2026-08-26 04:27 +0000
                                    Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-26 08:57 +0100
                                    Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> - 2026-08-27 06:30 -0700
                                      Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-27 13:57 +0000
                                      Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-27 22:22 -0400
                                        Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-28 13:16 +0100
                                          Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-28 18:36 +0000
                                            Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-08-28 19:42 +0100
                                            Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-29 10:28 +0100
                                              Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-29 20:04 +0000
                                                Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-29 23:18 +0100
                                                  Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-29 22:50 +0000
                                                    Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-30 18:03 +0100
                                                      Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-30 18:35 +0000
                                                        Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-31 00:43 +0100
                                                          Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-31 02:21 +0000
                                                            Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-31 12:33 +0100
                                                          Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-31 09:22 +0100
                                                            Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-31 13:01 +0100
                                                        Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-31 03:00 -0400
                                                          Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-31 12:47 +0100
                                                          Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-31 18:36 +0000
                                                            Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-09-01 02:09 -0400
                                                              Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-09-01 07:11 +0000
                                                                Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-09-01 03:47 -0400
                                                                  Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-01 13:56 +0100
                                                                    Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-09-01 18:00 +0000
                                                                      Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-01 19:11 +0100
                                                                        Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-09-01 18:17 +0000
                                                                          Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-09-01 18:19 +0000
                                                                    [OT] Finland, and Russia (was: Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ?) Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-01 23:49 +0100
                                                                      Re: [OT] Finland, and Russia (was: Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ?) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-09-02 02:53 +0000
                                                                    Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-09-02 02:46 -0400
                                                              Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-01 13:54 +0100
                                                                Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-09-01 18:17 +0000
                                                                  Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-01 19:23 +0100
                                                                    Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-01 21:23 +0200
                                                                      Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-09-01 21:18 +0000
                                                                Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-09-02 02:00 -0400
                                                                  Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-02 11:44 +0100
                                                            Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-01 13:43 +0100
                                                              Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-09-01 18:12 +0000
                                                  Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? "Stanislav N. aka pztrn" <pztrn@oldproto.invalid> - 2026-08-30 07:55 +0500
                                                    Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-30 02:08 -0400
                                                      Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-30 06:30 +0000
                                                    [OT] Russian Federation, wars (was: Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ?) Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-30 10:04 +0100
                                                      Re: [OT] Russian Federation, wars Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-08-30 10:22 +0100
                                                        Re: [OT] Russian Federation, wars "Stanislav N. aka pztrn" <pztrn@oldproto.invalid> - 2026-08-30 16:13 +0500
                                                        Re: [OT] Russian Federation, wars The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-30 18:12 +0100
                                                      Re: [OT] Russian Federation, wars "Stanislav N. aka pztrn" <pztrn@oldproto.invalid> - 2026-08-30 16:47 +0500
                                          Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-08-29 13:58 +0200
                                            Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> - 2026-08-29 10:11 -0700
                                              Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-08-29 22:20 +0200
                                                Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-29 23:06 +0000
                                                  Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-30 02:14 -0400
                                                    Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-30 06:35 +0000
                                                  Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-08-30 19:28 +0200
                                                    Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-31 02:15 -0400
                                              Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-29 22:55 +0100
                                                Salmonella (Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ?) Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> - 2026-08-30 09:28 -0700
                                                Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-08-30 19:27 +0200
                                                  Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-30 18:31 +0000
                                                    Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-08-30 21:30 +0200
                                                      Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-30 19:43 +0000
                                                        Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-08-30 21:57 +0200
                                                          Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-31 02:35 +0000
                                                    Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-31 02:50 -0400
                                                      Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-31 18:29 +0000
                                                  Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-31 01:52 -0400
                                                    Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-08-31 12:47 +0200
                                                    Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-31 12:37 +0100
                                                      Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-08-31 15:50 +0000
                                                        Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-31 18:41 +0000
                                                          Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-09-01 02:37 -0400
                                                          Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> - 2026-09-01 06:26 -0700
                                                            Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-01 19:05 +0100
                                                              Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-09-01 21:07 +0000
                                                            Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-09-01 18:19 +0000
                                                        Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? Enoch Powell <e.powell@tutanatu.kom> - 2026-08-31 17:07 -0600
                                                          Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-09-01 01:20 -0400
                                                          [OT] Personal safety in the USA (was: Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ?) Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-01 10:27 +0100
                                                          [OT] Personal safety in the USA (was: Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ?) John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-09-01 08:23 -0700
                                                            Re: [OT] Personal safety in the USA Enoch Powell <e.powell@tutanatu.kom> - 2026-09-01 10:24 -0600
                                                        Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-01 13:04 +0100
                                                          Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? Enoch Powell <e.powell@tutanatu.kom> - 2026-09-01 11:00 -0600
                                                          Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-09-02 01:23 -0400
                                                            Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-02 11:35 +0100
                                            Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-29 22:49 +0100
                                Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-08-27 16:32 +0100
                                  Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-27 22:44 -0400
          Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-08-19 12:57 +0000
          Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-19 14:03 +0100
            Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-19 22:24 -0400
      Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-18 22:07 -0400
        Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-19 03:42 +0000
          Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-19 02:14 -0400
          Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-19 14:13 +0100
            Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-19 14:14 +0000
              Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-19 15:27 +0100
                Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-08-19 16:57 +0000
        Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-19 14:02 +0100
          Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-19 13:54 +0000
          Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-19 22:21 -0400

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#91025

Fromrbowman <bowman@montana.com>
Date2026-09-01 18:19 +0000
Message-ID<nfoj8jFtomiU20@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#91012
On Tue, 1 Sep 2026 06:26:13 -0700, Lars Poulsen wrote:

> On 2026-08-31 11:41, rbowman wrote:
>> On Mon, 31 Aug 2026 15:50:44 GMT, Charlie Gibbs wrote:
>> 
>>> On 2026-08-31, The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>>
>>>> In the US, yes. Its cheaper to keep chickens in such density so they
>>>> are trampled by each other pecked by each other and covered with
>>>> their own piss and shit,m and then chlorinate them afterwards.
>>>
>>> Sounds like typical urban planning.
>> 
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Behavioral_sink
>> 
>> The planners used Calhoun's rat utopia design without reading the rest
>> of the study.
> 
> It is noteworthy that other groups replicating Calhoun's experiment have
> failed to get the same results.

The Science!  

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#90982

FromEnoch Powell <e.powell@tutanatu.kom>
Date2026-08-31 17:07 -0600
Message-ID<11751fg$1birh$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#90965
On 8/31/2026 9:50 AM, Charlie Gibbs wrote:
> On 2026-08-31, The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> 
>> In the US, yes. Its cheaper to keep chickens in such density so they are
>> trampled by each other pecked by each other and covered with their own
>> piss and shit,m and then chlorinate them afterwards.
> 
> Sounds like typical urban planning.
> 

This article sort of touches on the subject:

First 9 Most Dangerous Cities In The US (The Consequences Of Being In 
These Places Can be Devastating, If You Don’t Know What to Expect!)

This article was created for educational purposes and I suggest you take 
these tips and information with a good heart because it can help you 
prevent an unpleasant situation!

It’s difficult to believe that a little over 100 years ago not only did 
people rarely if ever lock their doors in the United States many houses 
didn’t even have locks on the doors. In today’s world, filled with 
atrocious headlines and daily murders, that thought is as strange a 
concept as not having to pay federal taxes. Especially with regard to 
the large cities that dot the country side of America. The brutal crime 
rate and their remarkable progress in the 20th century are unparalleled 
around the world. The Land of the Free and the Home of the Brave has 
also given liberty to many destructive activities. These atrocities 
encompass every severe offense you can think of, from murder and 
attempted murder to reckless property crimes such as breaking and entering.

Are there neighborhoods in the U.S. that are too dangerous to visit?

I’ve driven through all of the 50 most dangerous neighborhoods in 
America, one of my many unusual travel goals, and very few were 
uncomfortably unsafe just driving through. I wouldn’t get out of the car 
and walk around though.

To answer the question, there are probably nine neighborhoods of the 
70,000 across America that I personally wouldn’t recommend anyone 
visiting, even merely driving through, unless you’re a local or have 
family there.

Continue reading at link below:

https://www.theburningplatform.com/2026/08/24/first-9-most-dangerous-cities-in-the-us-the-consequences-of-being-in-these-places-can-be-devastating-if-you-dont-know-what-to-expect/

-- 
Israel’s Ben Gvir Calls For Nightly Kill Quota In Gaza

Ben Gvir: “There are people there who are not alive. They don’t need to
live. They are not people. I’m doing them a favor by calling them people.”

https://x.com/RyanRozbiani/status/2088695627702002109

https://www.globalgulag.us

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#90984

Fromc186282 <c186282@nnada.net>
Date2026-09-01 01:20 -0400
Message-ID<KomcnSutk4pZ_Qv3nZ2dnZfqnPqdnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#90982
On 8/31/26 19:07, Enoch Powell wrote:
> On 8/31/2026 9:50 AM, Charlie Gibbs wrote:
>> On 2026-08-31, The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>
>>> In the US, yes. Its cheaper to keep chickens in such density so they are
>>> trampled by each other pecked by each other and covered with their own
>>> piss and shit,m and then chlorinate them afterwards.
>>
>> Sounds like typical urban planning.
>>
> 
> This article sort of touches on the subject:

   Oh ... CHICKENS ... about a minus-one IQ.

> First 9 Most Dangerous Cities In The US (The Consequences Of Being In 
> These Places Can be Devastating, If You Don’t Know What to Expect!)
> 
> This article was created for educational purposes and I suggest you take 
> these tips and information with a good heart because it can help you 
> prevent an unpleasant situation!

   Almost NOBODY, NO place, is really set up for
   a Major Disaster. Being so would be TOO expensive.
   You could spend an entire national GDP on trying
   to set THAT up. TOO many ways things can go to crap.

   So, sorry, sometimes you're just gonna be On
   Your Own for awhile, maybe a LONG while.

   Prepared ??? Plan ??? What DO you do ???

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#90997 — [OT] Personal safety in the USA (was: Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ?)

FromNuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid>
Date2026-09-01 10:27 +0100
Subject[OT] Personal safety in the USA (was: Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ?)
Message-ID<11765pk$1leom$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#90982
On 2026-09-01, Enoch Powell wrote:

> Are there neighborhoods in the U.S. that are too dangerous to visit?

Besides places where the local law enforcement authorities were already
more of high school bullies, I guess that now has to include any place
to which ICE has been deployed.

When you can be killed by a law enforcement officer "restraining" you
way beyond proportional or legal response, or beaten or shot to death
merely by existing around high school bullies with ICE badges, you can't
really say that's a place that's not dangerous.

I'd not be surprised if deaths and violence caused by ICE ended up
surpassing non-ICE crimes in a lot of places.

-- 
Nuno Silva

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#91013 — [OT] Personal safety in the USA (was: Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ?)

FromJohn Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com>
Date2026-09-01 08:23 -0700
Subject[OT] Personal safety in the USA (was: Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ?)
Message-ID<20260901082357.00003753@gmail.com>
In reply to#90982
On Mon, 31 Aug 2026 17:07:28 -0600
Enoch Powell <e.powell@tutanatu.kom> wrote:

> This article sort of touches on the subject:
> 
> First 9 Most Dangerous Cities In The US (The Consequences Of Being In 
> These Places Can be Devastating, If You Don’t Know What to Expect!)

The clickbait headline and cartoon melodrama of the prose tell you a
lot about the author's intent here, I think. Urban blight may be real
enough, but in my experience most people's takes on it say more about
their preconceptions of a neighborhood than the place itself. Still
remember going to see Dragonforce in a south Minneapolis club ca. 2022
and having relatives absolutely *insist* on picking us up afterward
because they were dead convinced it was a "war zone" after the 2020
protests. What'd we run into on the mean streets? Just a buncha totally
ordinary city folk hustling from one corner to the next. People here in
CA talk about Oakland the same way; I've been through there and gotten
nothing but funny looks.

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#91014 — Re: [OT] Personal safety in the USA

FromEnoch Powell <e.powell@tutanatu.kom>
Date2026-09-01 10:24 -0600
SubjectRe: [OT] Personal safety in the USA
Message-ID<1176u8j$20284$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#91013
On 9/1/2026 9:23 AM, John Ames wrote:
> On Mon, 31 Aug 2026 17:07:28 -0600
> Enoch Powell <e.powell@tutanatu.kom> wrote:
> 
>> This article sort of touches on the subject:
>>
>> First 9 Most Dangerous Cities In The US (The Consequences Of Being In
>> These Places Can be Devastating, If You Don’t Know What to Expect!)

https://www.theburningplatform.com/2026/08/24/first-9-most-dangerous-cities-in-the-us-the-consequences-of-being-in-these-places-can-be-devastating-if-you-dont-know-what-to-expect/
> 
> The clickbait headline and cartoon melodrama of the prose tell you a
> lot about the author's intent here,

Oh, I don't know. The author stated that if you stay on the main 
boulevards you can go into the areas he mentioned, but that side streets 
with no street signs where GPS is spotty could make you a target for 
property crime, carjacking, or worse.  It seems like good advice to me, 
especially if you were, say, a German tourist family in Florida visiting 
America with your wife and kids who were targeted by "youths", never 
cautioned by the "woke" car rental company to avoid certain areas known 
to be high crime danger zones.

I lived in Washington, DC, and remember parts of DC where you lock your 
car doors and don't stop at stop signs or red lights if you want to 
avoid being a victim of crime.  Situational awareness is a good survival 
instinct in lots of places.  That Ukrainian woman who was killed by a 
Black man on an Charlotte, NC light rail train while other passengers 
"minded their own business" would be alive today had she been more 
fearful of the homeless dude that slit her throat. Just saying.

https://globalnews.ca/news/11404303/ukrainian-woman-iryna-zarutska-stabbed-attack-train-decarlos-brown-jr/

According to an affidavit viewed by ABC News, Iryna Zarutska boarded the 
train and sat in an aisle seat directly in front of the suspect, 
Decarlos Brown Jr., 34, who can be seen in a window seat wearing an 
orange sweatshirt.

The train travels for “approximately four and a half minutes before the 
suspect pulls a knife out of his pocket, unfolds the knife, pauses, then 
stands up, and strikes at the victim three times,” according to the outlet.

Before the stabbing, there appeared to be “no interaction between the 
victim and defendant,” the affidavit said.

Zarutska was pronounced dead at the scene, and witnesses directed 
officials to the location of the suspect.







  I think. Urban blight may be real
> enough, but in my experience most people's takes on it say more about
> their preconceptions of a neighborhood than the place itself. Still
> remember going to see Dragonforce in a south Minneapolis club ca. 2022
> and having relatives absolutely *insist* on picking us up afterward
> because they were dead convinced it was a "war zone" after the 2020
> protests. What'd we run into on the mean streets? Just a buncha totally
> ordinary city folk hustling from one corner to the next. People here in
> CA talk about Oakland the same way; I've been through there and gotten
> nothing but funny looks.

Others may not be so lucky.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attack_on_Reginald_Denny

Reginald Oliver Denny (born 1953) is a former construction truck driver 
who was pulled from his truck and severely beaten during the 1992 Los 
Angeles riots. His attackers, a group of black men who came to be known 
as the "L.A. Four", targeted Denny because he was white. The attack was 
captured on video by a news helicopter and broadcast live on U.S. 
national television.

Four other black L.A. residents who had witnessed the attack on live 
television came to Denny's aid, placing him back in his truck and 
driving him to the hospital. Denny suffered a fractured skull and 
impairment of his speech and ability to walk, for which he underwent 
years of rehabilitative therapy. After unsuccessfully suing the City of 
Los Angeles, Denny moved to Arizona, where he worked as an independent 
boat mechanic and has mostly avoided media contact.


-- 
Israel’s Ben Gvir Calls For Nightly Kill Quota In Gaza

Ben Gvir: “There are people there who are not alive. They don’t need to
live. They are not people. I’m doing them a favor by calling them people.”

https://x.com/RyanRozbiani/status/2088695627702002109

https://www.globalgulag.us

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#91004

FromThe Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid>
Date2026-09-01 13:04 +0100
Message-ID<1176evk$1o1ba$16@dont-email.me>
In reply to#90965
On 31/08/2026 16:50, Charlie Gibbs wrote:
> On 2026-08-31, The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> 
>> In the US, yes. Its cheaper to keep chickens in such density so they are
>> trampled by each other pecked by each other and covered with their own
>> piss and shit,m and then chlorinate them afterwards.
> 
> Sounds like typical urban planning.
> 
The 'projects', for fowl...

-- 
"If you don’t read the news paper, you are un-informed. If you read the 
news paper, you are mis-informed."

Mark Twain

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#91015

FromEnoch Powell <e.powell@tutanatu.kom>
Date2026-09-01 11:00 -0600
Message-ID<11770c2$20ohf$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#91004
On 9/1/2026 6:04 AM, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
> On 31/08/2026 16:50, Charlie Gibbs wrote:
>> On 2026-08-31, The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>
>>> In the US, yes. Its cheaper to keep chickens in such density so they are
>>> trampled by each other pecked by each other and covered with their own
>>> piss and shit,m and then chlorinate them afterwards.
>>
>> Sounds like typical urban planning.
>>
> The 'projects', for fowl...
> 

Aushwitz Farms.

-- 
Israel’s Ben Gvir Calls For Nightly Kill Quota In Gaza

Ben Gvir: “There are people there who are not alive. They don’t need to
live. They are not people. I’m doing them a favor by calling them people.”

https://x.com/RyanRozbiani/status/2088695627702002109

https://www.globalgulag.us

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#91053

Fromc186282 <c186282@nnada.net>
Date2026-09-02 01:23 -0400
Message-ID<9i-dnRZXrsZ2Lwr3nZ2dnZfqn_udnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#91004
On 9/1/26 08:04, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
> On 31/08/2026 16:50, Charlie Gibbs wrote:
>> On 2026-08-31, The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>
>>> In the US, yes. Its cheaper to keep chickens in such density so they are
>>> trampled by each other pecked by each other and covered with their own
>>> piss and shit,m and then chlorinate them afterwards.
>>
>> Sounds like typical urban planning.
>>
> The 'projects', for fowl...

   Heh heh !

   Anyway, chickens, minus-1 IQs. Not gonna
   worry TOO much about them, except which
   sauce makes 'em taste best.

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#91072

FromThe Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid>
Date2026-09-02 11:35 +0100
Message-ID<1178u5n$2mjch$8@dont-email.me>
In reply to#91053
On 02/09/2026 06:23, c186282 wrote:

>    Anyway, chickens, minus-1 IQs. Not gonna
>    worry TOO much about them, except which
>    sauce makes 'em taste best.
> 
If they scratch around in the dirt eating worms, they don't NEED any 
sauce...

-- 
The theory of Communism may be summed up in one sentence: Abolish all 
private property.

Karl Marx

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#90853

FromThe Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid>
Date2026-08-29 22:49 +0100
Message-ID<116vk4f$3j6fu$4@dont-email.me>
In reply to#90820
On 29/08/2026 12:58, Carlos E. R. wrote:
> On 2026-08-28 14:16, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>> On 28/08/2026 03:22, c186282 wrote:
>>> Salmonella in frozen blueberries. Eh ?
>>
>> Eggs reared under EU rather than UK rules
>>
> 
> What's the difference?
> 
Relaxed standards for Eastern European countries.


-- 
When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men in a society, over 
the course of time they create for themselves a legal system that 
authorizes it and a moral code that glorifies it.

  Frédéric Bastiat

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#90687

FromAndy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk>
Date2026-08-27 16:32 +0100
Message-ID<nfb3gqF7jarU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#90487
c186282 wrote:

> GoogleEarth showed large quantities of "blue tarp" roofs there for
> YEARS 🙂
> 
> BUT, Laura Bush DID show up to distribute water bottles and MREs !

I though that was Waffle House's job?


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#90716

Fromc186282 <c186282@nnada.net>
Date2026-08-27 22:44 -0400
Message-ID<wxednY4-Uqqhaw33nZ2dnZfqnPqdnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#90687
On 8/27/26 11:32, Andy Burns wrote:
> 
> c186282 wrote:
> 
>> GoogleEarth showed large quantities of "blue tarp" roofs there for
>> YEARS 🙂
>>
>> BUT, Laura Bush DID show up to distribute water bottles and MREs !
> 
> I though that was Waffle House's job?

   As I remember, the nearest WH had been trashed.
   BAD storms !

   By popular convention, no WH = no civilization.

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#90118

FromRich <rich@example.invalid>
Date2026-08-19 12:57 +0000
Message-ID<116498l$2l1f7$4@dont-email.me>
In reply to#90085
c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> wrote:
> On 8/18/26 04:10, vallor wrote:
>> At 18 Aug 2026 06:05:55 GMT, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> On Tue, 18 Aug 2026 01:44:51 -0400, c186282 wrote:
>>>
>>>> Tried FFox and Chromium the past few days. The site is ULTRA-slow,
>>>> useless.
>>>
>>> Brave browser. Went to the site, paged through the instructions, went to
>>> the Cinnamon download, selected the Clarkson mirror, and the download
>>> started immediately. Canceled the download.
>>>
>>> Like I've said before you have a lot more problems than the average bear.
>> 
>> Well, his clock is off -- probably not enough to effect TLS, but
>> figuring that out is above my current paygrade.
>> 
>> Dear Mr. c-cipher,
>> 
>> Please run:
>> 
>> $ ntpdate -q time.nist.gov
>> 
>> And post what you see.  Mine says:
>> 
>> 2026-08-18 01:06:57.105142 (-0700) +0.000209 +/- 0.016759 time.nist.gov 132.163.96.6 s1 no-leap
> 
> 
>   Checked, MY clock is dead on.
> 
>   Anyway, they took away my hardwire and gave me a 5G where the 
>   antenna is many miles away.  Weak signal almost always, perhaps 
>   packet errors too.
> 
>   But why the Mint site so notably ???

Perhaps Mint's servers were put on the other side of another 5G 
gateway?

>   Weirdness spanned DAYS too.

Or, perhaps the AI bots were busying downloading, in parallel, every 
file offered on the Mint website, over-saturating Mint's outbound 
network link.

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#90121

FromThe Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid>
Date2026-08-19 14:03 +0100
Message-ID<11649jq$2le0s$4@dont-email.me>
In reply to#90085
On 19/08/2026 03:16, c186282 wrote:
> Weak signal almost always, perhaps packet
>    errors too.
> 
>    But why the Mint site so notably ???
>    Weirdness spanned DAYS too.

Different mint servers have different loading at different times

Its often better for me to download from other than UK based ones

-- 
"Nature does not give up the winter because people dislike the cold."

― Confucius

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#90185

Fromc186282 <c186282@nnada.net>
Date2026-08-19 22:24 -0400
Message-ID<e--dnUBUO5z_-Bv3nZ2dnZfqnPSdnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#90121
On 8/19/26 09:03, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
> On 19/08/2026 03:16, c186282 wrote:
>> Weak signal almost always, perhaps packet
>>    errors too.
>>
>>    But why the Mint site so notably ???
>>    Weirdness spanned DAYS too.
> 
> Different mint servers have different loading at different times
> 
> Its often better for me to download from other than UK based ones

   Can't remember - but it MAY have been using a Euro
   site to serve the download. Anyway, the effect
   lasted for days.

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#90083

Fromc186282 <c186282@nnada.net>
Date2026-08-18 22:07 -0400
Message-ID<_46cnQkXs59Hkhj3nZ2dnZfqn_SdnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#90039
On 8/18/26 02:05, rbowman wrote:
> On Tue, 18 Aug 2026 01:44:51 -0400, c186282 wrote:
> 
>> Tried FFox and Chromium the past few days. The site is ULTRA-slow,
>> useless.
> 
> Brave browser. Went to the site, paged through the instructions, went to
> the Cinnamon download, selected the Clarkson mirror, and the download
> started immediately. Canceled the download.
> 
> Like I've said before you have a lot more problems than the average bear.

   It's true.

   In PART it's because I'm stuck with a
   somewhat balky 5G net connection. At
   times the signal strength goes to
   about naught, other times weird delays
   in transmission - packet errors ?

   It's why I was wondering about StarLink a
   little while back. Alas seems you need a
   pretty clear northeast 'view' from where
   I am - and I don't HAVE one ... big trees
   most everywhere. I'd have to run a 100'
   cable out under the yard to get a good
   clear point.

   StarLink MAY still be a viable "backup"
   however. Even a half-assed signal is
   better than none at all.

   Anyway, after a LONG wait, finally did get
   the download page to come up. Grabbed the
   latest XFCE version. Good enough.

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#90092

Fromrbowman <bowman@montana.com>
Date2026-08-19 03:42 +0000
Message-ID<nekn1aFe0jfU10@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#90083
On Tue, 18 Aug 2026 22:07:20 -0400, c186282 wrote:

>    It's why I was wondering about StarLink a little while back. Alas
>    seems you need a pretty clear northeast 'view' from where I am - and
>    I don't HAVE one ... big trees most everywhere. I'd have to run a
>    100' cable out under the yard to get a good clear point.

I was concerned about the tree but it's to the west and the receiver is 
oriented to 5 degrees. You can download the app for free to evaluate the 
site. You point the phone at the sky and rotate through 360. 

I was skeptical about the services using geosynchronous sats, the 
footprint, and how many subscribers would be in the beam. The Leos, and 
there are a lot of them, solve that problem.

I am a bit curious how it works. Back in the day the ham sats were store 
and forwards and the window was only a few minutes. Of course there was 
only the one and not over 1000. 

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#90104

Fromc186282 <c186282@nnada.net>
Date2026-08-19 02:14 -0400
Message-ID<KnydnRY2DeMh1Bj3nZ2dnZfqn_cAAAAA@giganews.com>
In reply to#90092
On 8/18/26 23:42, rbowman wrote:
> On Tue, 18 Aug 2026 22:07:20 -0400, c186282 wrote:
> 
>>     It's why I was wondering about StarLink a little while back. Alas
>>     seems you need a pretty clear northeast 'view' from where I am - and
>>     I don't HAVE one ... big trees most everywhere. I'd have to run a
>>     100' cable out under the yard to get a good clear point.
> 
> I was concerned about the tree but it's to the west and the receiver is
> oriented to 5 degrees. You can download the app for free to evaluate the
> site. You point the phone at the sky and rotate through 360.

   I don't have the kind of phone that'll run "apps".

> I was skeptical about the services using geosynchronous sats, the
> footprint, and how many subscribers would be in the beam. The Leos, and
> there are a lot of them, solve that problem.

   LONG back I put my office on geo-sync sat internet.

   It worked, and - sometimes - was faster than our
   old shotgunned dial-ups. Alas as web pages quickly
   became full of SHIT ... the signals bouncing 33,000
   miles up and back and up and back REALLY dragged
   down the connection. Then the phone offered DSL
   and we used that for a long time.

   Sorry, even the speed of light is NOT nearly fast
   enough these days.

   StarLink kinda CHEATS - very low orbits and clever
   data-routing tricks.

> I am a bit curious how it works. Back in the day the ham sats were store
> and forwards and the window was only a few minutes. Of course there was
> only the one and not over 1000.

   Well, StarLink is "in the works" even now. I think
   Musk still wants at least ten times as many sats,
   and the next-gen sats handle many more channels.
   A sort of extravagant system, but it's proven very
   useful and resistant to sabotage.

   ANYway, my geography is NOT so great for StarLink.
   It'd probably work but I'd never get the promised
   data speed. BIG trees everywhere.

   Also, their MOUNTING schemes ... searched Amazon
   and there was NOTHING really suitable for my house
   and likely weather conditions. I'd need to fab
   a hardwood frame and a 4-point mount to a concrete
   wall. Ordinary T-storm came through today ... gusts
   to maybe 60mph. It can get worse, much worse.

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#90123

FromThe Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid>
Date2026-08-19 14:13 +0100
Message-ID<1164a5e$2le0s$6@dont-email.me>
In reply to#90092
On 19/08/2026 04:42, rbowman wrote:
> I am a bit curious how it works. Back in the day the ham sats were store
> and forwards and the window was only a few minutes. Of course there was
> only the one and not over 1000.

Well starlink is simply an extreme case of IP routing. Your link will 
pick the best signal and transmit a burst to that and your router will 
be advertised as available via that satellite.

Clearly there is something like OSPF running inside starlinks network at 
very high speed.

Ah.
Good old AI

"Starlink uses a custom, proprietary internal encapsulation and routing 
protocol in space rather than standard Internet Protocol (IP) suites. 
Standard routing protocols like OSPF or BGP cannot cope with thousands 
of hyper-velocity LEO nodes changing topology every second.

Core Internal Architecture
=================
     Encapsulation: Standard IPv4/IPv6 packets from user devices are 
intercepted at the user terminal or Point of Presence (PoP) and wrapped 
inside a lightweight, proprietary space-layer protocol.

Predictable Ephemera: Because orbital mechanics are mathematically 
rigid, satellite trajectories and inter-satellite laser link (OISL) 
handoffs are pre-computed on the ground rather than dynamically flooded 
via traditional link-state advertisements.

Minimal Overhead: The custom layer strips out heavy traditional packet 
headers to maximize data payload efficiency across space-to-ground radio 
links and laser crosslinks.

Decoupled Edge: At the ground gateway or network POP, space packets are 
de-encapsulated back into standard IPv4 (often via CGNAT 100.64.0.0/10) 
or native IPv6 before handing off to the terrestrial internet backbone. "

So there ya go.It knows which satellites are going to be where and 
routing is switched between them .

pretty cool tech. One thing's fer sure. The MusktRat never designed it 
himself


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