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| Started by | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| First post | 2026-07-04 18:23 +0000 |
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WSL keeps getting better, and it's because Microsoft is finally admitting where developers want to be rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-07-04 18:23 +0000
Re: WSL keeps getting better, and it's because Microsoft is finally? admitting where developers want to be Robert Heller <heller@deepsoft.com> - 2026-07-04 18:41 +0000
Re: WSL keeps getting better, and it's because Microsoft is finally? admitting where developers want to be Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-05 00:36 +0100
Re: WSL keeps getting better, and it's because Microsoft is finally? admitting where developers want to be c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-07-05 01:31 -0400
Re: WSL keeps getting better, and it's because Microsoft is finally? admitting where developers want to be Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-07-05 18:07 +0000
Re: WSL keeps getting better, and it's because Microsoft is finally? admitting where developers want to be rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-07-05 18:15 +0000
Re: WSL keeps getting better, and it's because Microsoft is finally? admitting where developers want to be Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-07-05 19:11 +0000
Re: WSL keeps getting better, and it's because Microsoft is finally? admitting where developers want to be Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-06 00:54 +0100
Re: WSL keeps getting better, and it's because Microsoft is finally? admitting where developers want to be Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-07-05 19:08 +0000
Re: WSL keeps getting better, and it's because Microsoft is finally admitting where developers want to be Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-07-05 00:02 +0000
Re: WSL keeps getting better, and it's because Microsoft is finally admitting where developers want to be c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-07-05 02:00 -0400
Re: WSL keeps getting better, and it's because Microsoft is finally admitting where developers want to be Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-07-05 19:17 +0000
Re: WSL keeps getting better, and it's because Microsoft is finally admitting where developers want to be rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-07-06 00:30 +0000
Re: WSL keeps getting better, and it's because Microsoft is finally admitting where developers want to be The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-06 12:42 +0100
Re: WSL keeps getting better, and it's because Microsoft is finally admitting where developers want to be "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-07-05 13:35 +0200
Re: WSL keeps getting better, and it's because Microsoft is finally? admitting where developers want to be Robert Heller <heller@deepsoft.com> - 2026-07-05 12:41 +0000
Re: WSL keeps getting better, and it's because Microsoft is finally? admitting where developers want to be "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-07-05 15:12 +0200
Re: WSL keeps getting better, and it's because Microsoft is finally?? admitting where developers want to be Robert Heller <heller@deepsoft.com> - 2026-07-05 13:55 +0000
Re: WSL keeps getting better, and it's because Microsoft is finally?? admitting where developers want to be Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-05 15:11 +0100
Re: WSL keeps getting better, and it's because Microsoft is finally?? admitting where developers want to be rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-07-05 18:49 +0000
Re: WSL keeps getting better, and it's because Microsoft is finally?? admitting where developers want to be Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-07-05 23:42 +0000
Re: WSL keeps getting better, and it's because Microsoft is finally? admitting where developers want to be rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-07-05 18:47 +0000
Re: WSL keeps getting better, and it's because Microsoft is finally? admitting where developers want to be rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-07-05 18:39 +0000
Re: WSL keeps getting better, and it's because Microsoft is finally? admitting where developers want to be Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-06 00:44 +0100
Re: WSL keeps getting better, and it's because Microsoft is finally? admitting where developers want to be Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-07-06 17:50 +0000
Re: WSL keeps getting better, and it's because Microsoft is finally? admitting where developers want to be Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-07-06 21:11 +0000
Re: WSL keeps getting better, and it's because Microsoft is finally? admitting where developers want to be Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-07-06 21:54 +0000
Re: WSL keeps getting better, and it's because Microsoft is finally? admitting where developers want to be Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-07-07 00:25 +0000
Re: WSL keeps getting better, and it's because Microsoft is finally? admitting where developers want to be The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-07 08:57 +0100
Re: WSL keeps getting better, and it's because Microsoft is finally? admitting where developers want to be rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-07-07 17:26 +0000
Re: WSL keeps getting better, and it's because Microsoft is finally? admitting where developers want to be The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-07 20:14 +0100
Re: WSL keeps getting better, and it's because Microsoft is finally admitting where developers want to be Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-07-05 21:47 +0000
Re: WSL keeps getting better, and it's because Microsoft is finally admitting where developers want to be "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-07-06 13:10 +0200
Re: WSL keeps getting better, and it's because Microsoft is finally admitting where developers want to be Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-07-06 21:13 +0000
Re: WSL keeps getting better, and it's because Microsoft is finally admitting where developers want to be "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-07-06 23:57 +0200
Re: WSL keeps getting better, and it's because Microsoft is finally admitting where developers want to be Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-07-07 00:22 +0000
Re: WSL keeps getting better, and it's because Microsoft is finally admitting where developers want to be "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-07-07 08:27 +0200
Re: WSL keeps getting better, and it's because Microsoft is finally admitting where developers want to be Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-07-07 06:54 +0000
Re: WSL keeps getting better, and it's because Microsoft is finally admitting where developers want to be "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-07-07 10:59 +0200
Re: WSL keeps getting better, and it's because Microsoft is finally admitting where developers want to be Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-07-08 00:47 +0000
Re: WSL keeps getting better, and it's because Microsoft is finally admitting where developers want to be "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-07-08 12:00 +0200
Re: WSL keeps getting better, and it's because Microsoft is finally admitting where developers want to be Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-07-08 23:12 +0000
Re: WSL keeps getting better, and it's because Microsoft is finally admitting where developers want to be "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-07-09 09:11 +0200
Re: WSL keeps getting better, and it's because Microsoft is finally admitting where developers want to be Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-07-09 07:28 +0000
Re: WSL keeps getting better, and it's because Microsoft is finally admitting where developers want to be "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-07-09 09:40 +0200
Re: WSL keeps getting better, and it's because Microsoft is finally admitting where developers want to be Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-07-09 07:47 +0000
Re: WSL keeps getting better, and it's because Microsoft is finally admitting where developers want to be "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-07-09 09:53 +0200
Re: WSL keeps getting better, and it's because Microsoft is finally admitting where developers want to be Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-07-09 08:56 +0000
Re: WSL keeps getting better, and it's because Microsoft is finally admitting where developers want to be The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-09 11:49 +0100
Re: WSL keeps getting better, and it's because Microsoft is finally admitting where developers want to be rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-07-09 18:38 +0000
Re: WSL keeps getting better, and it's because Microsoft is finally admitting where developers want to be The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-10 05:10 +0100
Re: WSL keeps getting better, and it's because Microsoft is finally admitting where developers want to be Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-07-10 16:18 +0000
Re: WSL keeps getting better, and it's because Microsoft is finally admitting where developers want to be rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-07-09 18:35 +0000
Re: WSL keeps getting better, and it's because Microsoft is finally admitting where developers want to be dillinger <dillinger@not.invalid> - 2026-07-09 09:37 +0200
Re: WSL keeps getting better, and it's because Microsoft is finally admitting where developers want to be John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-07-06 09:33 -0700
Re: WSL keeps getting better, and it's because Microsoft is finally admitting where developers want to be rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-07-06 18:59 +0000
Re: WSL keeps getting better, and it's because Microsoft is finally admitting where developers want to be John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-07-06 12:43 -0700
Re: WSL keeps getting better, and it's because Microsoft is finally admitting where developers want to be Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-07-06 21:54 +0000
Re: WSL keeps getting better, and it's because Microsoft is finally admitting where developers want to be rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-07-07 03:41 +0000
Re: WSL keeps getting better, and it's because Microsoft is finally admitting where developers want to be The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-07 09:02 +0100
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| From | "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-07-08 12:00 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <nb6ldeFk3psU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #88764 |
On 2026-07-08 02:47, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:
> On Tue, 7 Jul 2026 10:59:46 +0200, Carlos E. R. wrote:
>
>> On 2026-07-07 08:54, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:
>>>
>>> All that can be done from reverse-engineering the JavaScript.
>>
>> That's not something I will ever do.
>>
>> I have two practical solutions:
>>
>> 1) Use Windows
>> 2) Pay someone to do it for me.
>
> I am sure there are others in the same boat as you. Why not pool
> resources and sponsor someone to fix the problem in an open-source
> way, once and for all?
No, that will not happen. The Linux people will not create a PDF reader
with Javascript support, because it is a security problem, and few
people seem to need it. Few people do in fact know about it.
Only inheritance tax needed acrobat reader with javascript forms. All
other taxes I need use web forms instead, which work on any OS. Not
likely I need filling inheritance tax again.
There might be other agencies I do not know about using those forms that
I don't remember. The social security for forms related to sole traders,
perhaps.
If I do need the feature again, I have a windows in a virtual machine.
--
Cheers,
Carlos E.R.
ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;
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| From | Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-07-08 23:12 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <112mlgo$2qd$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #88773 |
On Wed, 8 Jul 2026 12:00:14 +0200, Carlos E. R. wrote: > On 2026-07-08 02:47, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote: >> >> On Tue, 7 Jul 2026 10:59:46 +0200, Carlos E. R. wrote: >> >>> On 2026-07-07 08:54, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote: >>>> >>>> All that can be done from reverse-engineering the JavaScript. >>> >>> That's not something I will ever do. >>> >>> I have two practical solutions: >>> >>> 1) Use Windows >>> 2) Pay someone to do it for me. >> >> I am sure there are others in the same boat as you. Why not pool >> resources and sponsor someone to fix the problem in an open-source >> way, once and for all? > > No, that will not happen. The Linux people will not create a PDF > reader with Javascript support ... Who are these “Linux people” who are the gatekeepers to what you can do on your own machine?
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| From | "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-07-09 09:11 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <nb8vsoFnapU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #88794 |
On 2026-07-09 01:12, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:
> On Wed, 8 Jul 2026 12:00:14 +0200, Carlos E. R. wrote:
>
>> On 2026-07-08 02:47, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:
>>>
>>> On Tue, 7 Jul 2026 10:59:46 +0200, Carlos E. R. wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 2026-07-07 08:54, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> All that can be done from reverse-engineering the JavaScript.
>>>>
>>>> That's not something I will ever do.
>>>>
>>>> I have two practical solutions:
>>>>
>>>> 1) Use Windows
>>>> 2) Pay someone to do it for me.
>>>
>>> I am sure there are others in the same boat as you. Why not pool
>>> resources and sponsor someone to fix the problem in an open-source
>>> way, once and for all?
>>
>> No, that will not happen. The Linux people will not create a PDF
>> reader with Javascript support ...
>
> Who are these “Linux people” who are the gatekeepers to what you can
> do on your own machine?
That's way out of what I can do.
--
Cheers,
Carlos E.R.
ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;
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| From | Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-07-09 07:28 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <112nijb$7c16$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #88805 |
On Thu, 9 Jul 2026 09:11:20 +0200, Carlos E. R. wrote: > On 2026-07-09 01:12, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote: >> >> On Wed, 8 Jul 2026 12:00:14 +0200, Carlos E. R. wrote: >> >>> On 2026-07-08 02:47, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote: >>>> >>>> On Tue, 7 Jul 2026 10:59:46 +0200, Carlos E. R. wrote: >>>> >>>>> On 2026-07-07 08:54, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> All that can be done from reverse-engineering the JavaScript. >>>>> >>>>> That's not something I will ever do. >>>>> >>>>> I have two practical solutions: >>>>> >>>>> 1) Use Windows >>>>> 2) Pay someone to do it for me. >>>> >>>> I am sure there are others in the same boat as you. Why not pool >>>> resources and sponsor someone to fix the problem in an >>>> open-source way, once and for all? >>> >>> No, that will not happen. The Linux people will not create a PDF >>> reader with Javascript support ... >> >> Who are these “Linux people” who are the gatekeepers to what you >> can do on your own machine? > > That's way out of what I can do. I am sure there are others in the same boat as you. Why not pool resources and sponsor someone to fix the problem in an open-source way, once and for all?
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| From | "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-07-09 09:40 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <nb91j5FnapU3@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #88807 |
On 2026-07-09 09:28, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:
> On Thu, 9 Jul 2026 09:11:20 +0200, Carlos E. R. wrote:
>
>> On 2026-07-09 01:12, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:
>>>
>>> On Wed, 8 Jul 2026 12:00:14 +0200, Carlos E. R. wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 2026-07-08 02:47, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, 7 Jul 2026 10:59:46 +0200, Carlos E. R. wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 2026-07-07 08:54, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> All that can be done from reverse-engineering the JavaScript.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That's not something I will ever do.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have two practical solutions:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 1) Use Windows
>>>>>> 2) Pay someone to do it for me.
>>>>>
>>>>> I am sure there are others in the same boat as you. Why not pool
>>>>> resources and sponsor someone to fix the problem in an
>>>>> open-source way, once and for all?
>>>>
>>>> No, that will not happen. The Linux people will not create a PDF
>>>> reader with Javascript support ...
>>>
>>> Who are these “Linux people” who are the gatekeepers to what you
>>> can do on your own machine?
>>
>> That's way out of what I can do.
>
> I am sure there are others in the same boat as you. Why not pool
> resources and sponsor someone to fix the problem in an open-source
> way, once and for all?
Again, will not happen.
--
Cheers,
Carlos E.R.
ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;
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| From | Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-07-09 07:47 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <112njm1$7c16$3@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #88809 |
On Thu, 9 Jul 2026 09:40:20 +0200, Carlos E. R. wrote: > On 2026-07-09 09:28, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote: >> >> I am sure there are others in the same boat as you. Why not pool >> resources and sponsor someone to fix the problem in an open-source >> way, once and for all? > > Again, will not happen. You cannot blame anybody else for that.
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| From | "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-07-09 09:53 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <nb92biF1fs5U2@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #88810 |
On 2026-07-09 09:47, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:
> On Thu, 9 Jul 2026 09:40:20 +0200, Carlos E. R. wrote:
>
>> On 2026-07-09 09:28, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:
>>>
>>> I am sure there are others in the same boat as you. Why not pool
>>> resources and sponsor someone to fix the problem in an open-source
>>> way, once and for all?
>>
>> Again, will not happen.
>
> You cannot blame anybody else for that.
I sure can grumble about it, and will do till my last breath :-P
--
Cheers,
Carlos E.R.
ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;
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| From | Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-07-09 08:56 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <112nnog$8rdh$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #88813 |
On Thu, 9 Jul 2026 09:53:22 +0200, Carlos E. R. wrote: > On 2026-07-09 09:47, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote: >> >> On Thu, 9 Jul 2026 09:40:20 +0200, Carlos E. R. wrote: >> >>> On 2026-07-09 09:28, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote: >>>> >>>> I am sure there are others in the same boat as you. Why not pool >>>> resources and sponsor someone to fix the problem in an >>>> open-source way, once and for all? >>> >>> Again, will not happen. >> >> You cannot blame anybody else for that. > > I sure can grumble about it, and will do till my last breath :-P Surely you have more productive things to do with your life.
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| From | The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-07-09 11:49 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <112nuc6$ati4$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #88813 |
On 09/07/2026 08:53, Carlos E. R. wrote: > I sure can grumble about it, and will do till my last breath 😛 Applied Socialism 101 -- "What do you think about Gay Marriage?" "I don't." "Don't what?" "Think about Gay Marriage."
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2026-07-09 18:38 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <nba84vF7060U3@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #88819 |
On Thu, 9 Jul 2026 11:49:42 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote: > On 09/07/2026 08:53, Carlos E. R. wrote: >> I sure can grumble about it, and will do till my last breath 😛 > > Applied Socialism 101 That's not fair. Socialist do try to do something about it, however wrong- headed. A better analogy is the mass of voters in a so-called democracy.
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| From | The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-07-10 05:10 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <112prb3$ts6u$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #88823 |
On 09/07/2026 19:38, rbowman wrote: > On Thu, 9 Jul 2026 11:49:42 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote: > >> On 09/07/2026 08:53, Carlos E. R. wrote: >>> I sure can grumble about it, and will do till my last breath 😛 >> >> Applied Socialism 101 > > That's not fair. Socialist do try to do something about it, however wrong- > headed. A better analogy is the mass of voters in a so-called democracy. Somewhere I heard that a conservative with a problem will try and fix it himself, but a socialist will use three times the effort yo try and get someone else to fix it at five times the price -- There is nothing a fleet of dispatchable nuclear power plants cannot do that cannot be done worse and more expensively and with higher carbon emissions and more adverse environmental impact by adding intermittent renewable energy.
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| From | Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-07-10 16:18 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <PX84S.41264$atK1.10521@fx48.iad> |
| In reply to | #88827 |
On 2026-07-10, The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote: > On 09/07/2026 19:38, rbowman wrote: > >> On Thu, 9 Jul 2026 11:49:42 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote: >> >>> On 09/07/2026 08:53, Carlos E. R. wrote: >>>> I sure can grumble about it, and will do till my last breath 😛 >>> >>> Applied Socialism 101 >> >> That's not fair. Socialist do try to do something about it, however wrong- >> headed. A better analogy is the mass of voters in a so-called democracy. > > Somewhere I heard that a conservative with a problem will try and fix it > himself, but a socialist will use three times the effort yo try and get > someone else to fix it at five times the price Mind you, these days the conservative is just as likely to farm out the job to a crony, also at five times the price. The way I originally heard it was that if a conservative was walking along the shore and spotted someone drowning, he'd grab the conveniently- located coil of rope nearby, tie it to a tree, throw it toward the victim, and upon finding the rope was only half as long as needed, would call out, "Swim for it!" The socialist would throw the whole coil out toward the victim, then go off to do another good deed elsewhere. -- /~\ Charlie Gibbs | No artificial \ / <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> | intelligence was X I'm really at ac.dekanfrus | used in the creation / \ if you read it the right way. | of this post.
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2026-07-09 18:35 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <nba7viF7060U2@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #88813 |
On Thu, 9 Jul 2026 09:53:22 +0200, Carlos E. R. wrote: > On 2026-07-09 09:47, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote: >> On Thu, 9 Jul 2026 09:40:20 +0200, Carlos E. R. wrote: >> >>> On 2026-07-09 09:28, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote: >>>> >>>> I am sure there are others in the same boat as you. Why not pool >>>> resources and sponsor someone to fix the problem in an open-source >>>> way, once and for all? >>> >>> Again, will not happen. >> >> You cannot blame anybody else for that. > > I sure can grumble about it, and will do till my last breath :-P Sadly that's a common approach in many areas.
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| From | dillinger <dillinger@not.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-07-09 09:37 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <knv3im-ll41.ln1@spock.lan> |
| In reply to | #88805 |
On 09-07-2026 09:11, Carlos E. R. wrote: > On 2026-07-09 01:12, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote: >> On Wed, 8 Jul 2026 12:00:14 +0200, Carlos E. R. wrote: >> >>> On 2026-07-08 02:47, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote: >>>> >>>> On Tue, 7 Jul 2026 10:59:46 +0200, Carlos E. R. wrote: >>>> >>>>> On 2026-07-07 08:54, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> All that can be done from reverse-engineering the JavaScript. >>>>> >>>>> That's not something I will ever do. >>>>> >>>>> I have two practical solutions: >>>>> >>>>> 1) Use Windows >>>>> 2) Pay someone to do it for me. >>>> >>>> I am sure there are others in the same boat as you. Why not pool >>>> resources and sponsor someone to fix the problem in an open-source >>>> way, once and for all? >>> >>> No, that will not happen. The Linux people will not create a PDF >>> reader with Javascript support ... >> >> Who are these “Linux people” who are the gatekeepers to what you can >> do on your own machine? > > That's way out of what I can do. > Apparently Qoppa Software's PDF Studio Viewer can handle js: https://www.reddit.com/r/linux4noobs/comments/1aj4ty6/pdf_reader_with_js/ https://www.qoppa.com/pdfstudioviewer/ I haven't tested it, it may work for you.
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| From | John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2026-07-06 09:33 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <20260706093311.0000576f@gmail.com> |
| In reply to | #88646 |
On 4 Jul 2026 18:23:24 GMT rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote: > <https://www.xda-developers.com/wsl-keeps-getting-better-and-its-because-microsoft-is-finally-admitting-where-developers-want-to-be/> > > It must leave a sour taste. Honestly, I'm not sure if there any any 'Softies left who get invested in the ol' team-sports tribalism; it's been nigh-on 15 yrs. since Satya gutted the old guard, and nothing about Win11 gives any suggestion of a development staff who're actually invested in the end product. Old- school freenix die-hards might well be the only ones still carrying the torch for that rivalry, at this point.
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2026-07-06 18:59 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <nb2c8kFu6idU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #88722 |
On Mon, 6 Jul 2026 09:33:11 -0700, John Ames wrote: > On 4 Jul 2026 18:23:24 GMT rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote: > >> <https://www.xda-developers.com/wsl-keeps-getting-better-and-its- because-microsoft-is-finally-admitting-where-developers-want-to-be/> >> >> It must leave a sour taste. > > Honestly, I'm not sure if there any any 'Softies left who get invested > in the ol' team-sports tribalism; it's been nigh-on 15 yrs. since Satya > gutted the old guard, and nothing about Win11 gives any suggestion of a > development staff who're actually invested in the end product. Old- > school freenix die-hards might well be the only ones still carrying the > torch for that rivalry, at this point. There may be a few hiding in the closets but it is a different company under Nadella. With the revenue up 17% year over year I doubt many are questioning his leadership. Azure, Teams, Office, LinkedIn, and CoPilot are cash cows. MS isn't forthcoming about the product mix but the guess is Windows 11, bot OEM and enterprise sales, are about 10%. It's more than WSL. VS Code is very popular and is cross platform. Purists can use Codium or Cose OSS. I did find that since Codium doesn't use the MS repository for extensions, not all are available. I did add them to get the CircuitPython extension but it had problems so I went back to Code. Dotnet is available on Linux. The ability to create desktop GUIs isn't there yet but ASP.NET works fine. I haven't installed it but SQL Server is available on Linux too. Ballmer's dog in the manager approach didn't work. I'm reaching but I think there may be a cultural implication. Indian culture doesn't lend itself to the One True God syndrome.
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| From | John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2026-07-06 12:43 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <20260706124317.00007d88@gmail.com> |
| In reply to | #88727 |
On 6 Jul 2026 18:59:33 GMT rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote: > I'm reaching but I think there may be a cultural implication. Indian > culture doesn't lend itself to the One True God syndrome. I wouldn't put it down to that - Nadella seems dead convinced he's all the techno-messiah we'll ever need. But he certainly swept out most of the Priests of the Old Ways when he took the reins.
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| From | Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-07-06 21:54 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <BuV2S.60091$dBE.50396@fx16.iad> |
| In reply to | #88730 |
On 2026-07-06, John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> wrote: > On 6 Jul 2026 18:59:33 GMT > rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote: > >> I'm reaching but I think there may be a cultural implication. Indian >> culture doesn't lend itself to the One True God syndrome. > > I wouldn't put it down to that - Nadella seems dead convinced he's all > the techno-messiah we'll ever need. But he certainly swept out most of > the Priests of the Old Ways when he took the reins. https://www.sandraandwoo.com/2016/06/09/0793-an-offer-you-cant-refuse-ww/ -- /~\ Charlie Gibbs | No artificial \ / <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> | intelligence was X I'm really at ac.dekanfrus | used in the creation / \ if you read it the right way. | of this post.
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2026-07-07 03:41 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <nb3aqhF4kctU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #88736 |
On Mon, 06 Jul 2026 21:54:41 GMT, Charlie Gibbs wrote: > On 2026-07-06, John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> wrote: > >> On 6 Jul 2026 18:59:33 GMT rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote: >> >>> I'm reaching but I think there may be a cultural implication. Indian >>> culture doesn't lend itself to the One True God syndrome. >> >> I wouldn't put it down to that - Nadella seems dead convinced he's all >> the techno-messiah we'll ever need. But he certainly swept out most of >> the Priests of the Old Ways when he took the reins. > > https://www.sandraandwoo.com/2016/06/09/0793-an-offer-you-cant-refuse- ww/ I've checked out the audiobook of 'Hit Refresh', Nadella's book, from the library. That's not my favorite format but that's what was available. The book came out in 2017 but in the foreword Gates is already trumpeting AI.
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| From | The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-07-07 09:02 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <112ibpo$2mlt6$6@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #88727 |
On 06/07/2026 19:59, rbowman wrote: > Ballmer's dog in the manager approach didn't work. I'm reaching but I > think there may be a cultural implication. Indian culture doesn't lend > itself to the One True God syndrome. But they sure can LIE. Salman Rushdie's 'Haroun and the Sea of Stories' features the 'Shah of Blah'... Its far less of a deadly sin than e.g. abandoning one's family.... -- How fortunate for governments that the people they administer don't think. Adolf Hitler
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