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Micro$oft Success Built On Sabotage And Bribery

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First post2026-06-30 14:13 +0000
Last post2026-07-03 08:41 +0000
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  Micro$oft Success Built On Sabotage And Bribery Leroy H <lh@somewhere.net> - 2026-06-30 14:13 +0000
    Re: Micro$oft Success Built On Sabotage And Bribery Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> - 2026-06-30 15:26 +0000
      Re: Micro$oft Success Built On Sabotage And Bribery Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-06-30 18:51 +0000
        Re: Micro$oft Success Built On Sabotage And Bribery chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2026-07-01 14:41 -0500
          Re: Micro$oft Success Built On Sabotage And Bribery CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2026-07-08 13:51 -0400
        Re: Micro$oft Success Built On Sabotage And Bribery CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2026-07-08 13:49 -0400
      Re: Microsoft Success Built On Sabotage And Bribery Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-30 21:52 +0000
        Re: Microsoft Success Built On Sabotage And Bribery rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-30 23:16 +0000
          Re: Microsoft Success Built On Sabotage And Bribery Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-07-01 00:03 +0000
            Re: Microsoft Success Built On Sabotage And Bribery Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-07-01 01:48 +0000
              Re: Microsoft Success Built On Sabotage And Bribery rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-07-01 04:54 +0000
                Re: Microsoft Success Built On Sabotage And Bribery c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-07-01 04:23 -0400
                  Re: Microsoft Success Built On Sabotage And Bribery rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-07-01 17:17 +0000
                    Re: Microsoft Success Built On Sabotage And Bribery The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-01 20:22 +0100
                Re: Microsoft Success Built On Sabotage And Bribery "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-07-01 12:00 +0200
                Re: Microsoft Success Built On Sabotage And Bribery John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-07-01 07:53 -0700
              Re: Microsoft Success Built On Sabotage And Bribery Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-01 08:40 +0100
                Re: Microsoft Success Built On Sabotage And Bribery (WSL) "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-07-01 23:39 +0800
            Re: Microsoft Success Built On Sabotage And Bribery InterLinked <usenet@phreaknet.org> - 2026-07-07 19:20 -0400
              Re: Microsoft Success Built On Sabotage And Bribery Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-07-07 23:53 +0000
      Re: Micro$oft Success Built On Sabotage And Bribery rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-30 23:07 +0000
        Re: Micro$oft Success Built On Sabotage And Bribery Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> - 2026-07-01 05:47 +0000
          Re: Micro$oft Success Built On Sabotage And Bribery rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-07-01 17:26 +0000
            Re: Micro$oft Success Built On Sabotage And Bribery Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> - 2026-07-02 06:23 +0000
              Re: Micro$oft Success Built On Sabotage And Bribery c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-07-03 03:02 -0400
                Re: Micro$oft Success Built On Sabotage And Bribery Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> - 2026-07-03 08:41 +0000

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#88546

Fromrbowman <bowman@montana.com>
Date2026-06-30 23:07 +0000
Message-ID<naj0i7FgbvmU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#88535
On Tue, 30 Jun 2026 15:26:45 GMT, Jan Panteltje wrote:

> I am posting this from a Raspberry Pi 4 8 GB with a 4 TB Toshibaba
> harddisc connected.
> Nothing I cannot do raspberrypi: ~ # uname -a Linux raspberrypi
> 5.15.32-v7l+ #1538 SMP Thu Mar 31 19:39:41 BST 2022 armv7l GNU/Linux
> 
> 2022 ? what's new?
> I think it is running Debian If I need something I write the code and
> open source it:

I'm running a Pi 5 with the Raspberry Pi OS which is Debian based. uname 
shows a 6.18 kernel and 06/09/2026. Right now it's running a weather page.

Temperature: 81.7 F
Humidity: 36.0%

Outside Temperature: 69.8 F
Outside Humidity: 52.8%

The inside temperature comes from a DHT11 and I scrape the NWS site for 
the current outside temperature and humidity. I thought it felt a little 
stuffy, but it has been in the 50s and raining so I closed the windows. 
Time for some natural AC.

I definitely could use it for my main machine in a pinch. I bought it 
before the prices went crazy.

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#88561

FromJan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid>
Date2026-07-01 05:47 +0000
Message-ID<11229lt$1lag8$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#88546
>rbowman <bowman@montana.com>wrote:
>>On Tue, 30 Jun 2026 15:26:45 GMT, Jan Panteltje wrote:
>
>> I am posting this from a Raspberry Pi 4 8 GB with a 4 TB Toshibaba
>> harddisc connected.
>> Nothing I cannot do raspberrypi: ~ # uname -a Linux raspberrypi
>> 5.15.32-v7l+ #1538 SMP Thu Mar 31 19:39:41 BST 2022 armv7l GNU/Linux
>> 
>> 2022 ? what's new?
>> I think it is running Debian If I need something I write the code and
>> open source it:
>
>I'm running a Pi 5 with the Raspberry Pi OS which is Debian based. uname 
>shows a 6.18 kernel and 06/09/2026. Right now it's running a weather page.
>
>Temperature: 81.7 F
>Humidity: 36.0%
>
>Outside Temperature: 69.8 F
>Outside Humidity: 52.8%

Yes, I am receiving my outside weather sensor with a RTL_SDR USB stick
and the 'rtl_433' program, temperature and humidity.
It can receive other sensors in the area too if in range.

I build a Pi 'hat' that has, among other chips,  an air pressure sensor and it is displayed in  the xgpspc program I wrote"
 https://panteltje.online/pub/boats_and_planes.gif
Other RTL_SDR USB sticks measure air-traffic, ship-traffic and GPS.
all goes to 'xgpspc'
 https://panteltje.online/pub/boats_and_planes.gif


>The inside temperature comes from a DHT11 and I scrape the NWS site for 
>the current outside temperature and humidity. I thought it felt a little 
>stuffy, but it has been in the 50s and raining so I closed the windows. 
>Time for some natural AC.
>
>I definitely could use it for my main machine in a pinch. I bought it 
>before the prices went crazy.

I have now 5 Raspberries, 4 are on 24/7, 3 of those are on a UPS, one very old one not in use as backup...

All together did cost less than an Apple ?

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#88585

Fromrbowman <bowman@montana.com>
Date2026-07-01 17:26 +0000
Message-ID<nal0u8Fqk4qU2@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#88561
On Wed, 01 Jul 2026 05:47:40 GMT, Jan Panteltje wrote:

> Yes, I am receiving my outside weather sensor with a RTL_SDR USB stick
> and the 'rtl_433' program, temperature and humidity.
> It can receive other sensors in the area too if in range.

What sensor are you using? rtl_443 supports many protocols. I've got a 
RTL_SDR and have mostly used it for ADS-C.

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#88593

FromJan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid>
Date2026-07-02 06:23 +0000
Message-ID<112505d$2ct6u$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#88585
>rbowman <bowmqan@montana.com>wrote:
>>On Wed, 01 Jul 2026 05:47:40 GMT, Jan Panteltje wrote:
>
>> Yes, I am receiving my outside weather sensor with a RTL_SDR USB stick
>> and the 'rtl_433' program, temperature and humidity.
>> It can receive other sensors in the area too if in range.
>
>What sensor are you using? rtl_443 supports many protocols. I've got a 
>RTL_SDR and have mostly used it for ADS-C.

A cheap Nexus temperature and humidity sensor that hangs outside,
als has an inside box with diplay 


Using:
 rtl_433 -p 40 -R19 | weather sensor_to_xgpspc;

The -p is the frequency correction for the RTL stick.

For plane traffic I use dump1090, from this script:

raspberrypi: # cat /usr/local/send_planes_to_xgpspc
#!/bin/bash
#echo "Usage: send_planes_to_xgpspc device_number"
#echo "default device_number is 0"

if [ "$1" == "" ]
 then
  let device_number=0
 else
  device_number="$1"
 fi

#echo "device_number=$device_number"

#dump1090 --metric --interactive | grep -v  -e ---- -e Flight | awk '// { printf "%s %s %sm %skm/h %sN %sE\n", $1, $2, $3, $4, $5, $6}' | tee planes13.log | netcat -u 192.168.178.73 1079

#dump1090 --metric --interactive | grep -v  -e ---- -e Flight | awk '// { printf "%s %s %sm %skm/h %s %s\n", $1, $2, $3, $4, $5, $6}' | tee /root/planes.log | netcat -u 192.168.178.73 1079

dump1090 --device-index $device_number --metric --interactive | \
grep -v  -e ---- -e Flight | \
awk '// { printf "%s %s %sm %skm/h %s %s\n", $1, $2, $3, $4, $5, $6}' | \
tee /dev/stderr | \
netcat -u 192.168.178.73 1079

=================================

This sends the planes info to Raspbery with IP address 192.168.178.73 that runs 'xgpspc' using netcat

netcat is cool for communication between ethernet connected stuff
Some have multitasking operating systems ..  I also use computers for several tasks. :-)
Easy with those cheap Raspberries.

For air pressure I use a chip that is mounted on a raspi 'hat' I build,
that hat also holds compass and attitude chips:
 https://panteltje.nl/panteltje/xgpspc/raspi_add_on_compass_accelerometer_pressure_GPS_interface_IMG_4949.JPG



  

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#88603

Fromc186282 <c186282@nnada.net>
Date2026-07-03 03:02 -0400
Message-ID<txSdncIfFfr-w9r3nZ2dnZfqnPednZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#88593
On 7/2/26 02:23, Jan Panteltje wrote:
>> rbowman <bowmqan@montana.com>wrote:
>>> On Wed, 01 Jul 2026 05:47:40 GMT, Jan Panteltje wrote:
>>
>>> Yes, I am receiving my outside weather sensor with a RTL_SDR USB stick
>>> and the 'rtl_433' program, temperature and humidity.
>>> It can receive other sensors in the area too if in range.
>>
>> What sensor are you using? rtl_443 supports many protocols. I've got a
>> RTL_SDR and have mostly used it for ADS-C.
> 
> A cheap Nexus temperature and humidity sensor that hangs outside,
> als has an inside box with diplay
> 
> 
> Using:
>   rtl_433 -p 40 -R19 | weather sensor_to_xgpspc;
> 
> The -p is the frequency correction for the RTL stick.
> 
> For plane traffic I use dump1090, from this script:
> 
> raspberrypi: # cat /usr/local/send_planes_to_xgpspc
> #!/bin/bash
> #echo "Usage: send_planes_to_xgpspc device_number"
> #echo "default device_number is 0"
> 
> if [ "$1" == "" ]
>   then
>    let device_number=0
>   else
>    device_number="$1"
>   fi
> 
> #echo "device_number=$device_number"
> 
> #dump1090 --metric --interactive | grep -v  -e ---- -e Flight | awk '// { printf "%s %s %sm %skm/h %sN %sE\n", $1, $2, $3, $4, $5, $6}' | tee planes13.log | netcat -u 192.168.178.73 1079
> 
> #dump1090 --metric --interactive | grep -v  -e ---- -e Flight | awk '// { printf "%s %s %sm %skm/h %s %s\n", $1, $2, $3, $4, $5, $6}' | tee /root/planes.log | netcat -u 192.168.178.73 1079
> 
> dump1090 --device-index $device_number --metric --interactive | \
> grep -v  -e ---- -e Flight | \
> awk '// { printf "%s %s %sm %skm/h %s %s\n", $1, $2, $3, $4, $5, $6}' | \
> tee /dev/stderr | \
> netcat -u 192.168.178.73 1079
> 
> =================================
> 
> This sends the planes info to Raspbery with IP address 192.168.178.73 that runs 'xgpspc' using netcat
> 
> netcat is cool for communication between ethernet connected stuff
> Some have multitasking operating systems ..  I also use computers for several tasks. :-)
> Easy with those cheap Raspberries.
> 
> For air pressure I use a chip that is mounted on a raspi 'hat' I build,
> that hat also holds compass and attitude chips:
>   https://panteltje.nl/panteltje/xgpspc/raspi_add_on_compass_accelerometer_pressure_GPS_interface_IMG_4949.JPG

   Hmm ... interesting link. Don't NEED the positional
   stuff for anything now, but temperature/pressure/RH
   might be of value.

   Yea, there ARE individual modules, SPI,I2C,1W, but an
   all-in-one can save a lot of time.

   Made a bunch of 1W temp sensors with the Dallas chip
   embedded in an epoxy-filled little tube. You can kinda
   buy those, now.

   Note : you wrap the DS "chip" in metal-foil tape and
   leave one end kinda free. Then put the thing into the
   little metal tube and squeeze in the epoxy. The free
   end will gravitate to the wall of the enclosing tube,
   fair thermal bond.

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#88604

FromJan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid>
Date2026-07-03 08:41 +0000
Message-ID<1127skf$391ng$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#88603
>c186282 <c186282@nnada.net>wrote:
>>On 7/2/26 02:23, Jan Panteltje wrote:
>>> rbowman <bowmqan@montana.com>wrote:
>>>> On Wed, 01 Jul 2026 05:47:40 GMT, Jan Panteltje wrote:
>>>
>>>> Yes, I am receiving my outside weather sensor with a RTL_SDR USB stick
>>>> and the 'rtl_433' program, temperature and humidity.
>>>> It can receive other sensors in the area too if in range.
>>>
>>> What sensor are you using? rtl_443 supports many protocols. I've got a
>>> RTL_SDR and have mostly used it for ADS-C.
>> 
>> A cheap Nexus temperature and humidity sensor that hangs outside,
>> als has an inside box with diplay
>> 
>> 
>> Using:
>>   rtl_433 -p 40 -R19 | weather sensor_to_xgpspc;
>> 
>> The -p is the frequency correction for the RTL stick.
>> 
>> For plane traffic I use dump1090, from this script:
>> 
>> raspberrypi: # cat /usr/local/send_planes_to_xgpspc
>> #!/bin/bash
>> #echo "Usage: send_planes_to_xgpspc device_number"
>> #echo "default device_number is 0"
>> 
>> if [ "$1" == "" ]
>>   then
>>    let device_number=0
>>   else
>>    device_number="$1"
>>   fi
>> 
>> #echo "device_number=$device_number"
>> 
>> #dump1090 --metric --interactive | grep -v  -e ---- -e Flight | awk '// { printf "%s %s %sm %skm/h %sN %sE\n", $1, $2, $3, $4,
>> $5, $6}' | tee planes13.log | netcat -u 192.168.178.73 1079
>> 
>> #dump1090 --metric --interactive | grep -v  -e ---- -e Flight | awk '// { printf "%s %s %sm %skm/h %s %s\n", $1, $2, $3, $4,
>> $5, $6}' | tee /root/planes.log | netcat -u 192.168.178.73 1079
>> 
>> dump1090 --device-index $device_number --metric --interactive | \
>> grep -v  -e ---- -e Flight | \
>> awk '// { printf "%s %s %sm %skm/h %s %s\n", $1, $2, $3, $4, $5, $6}' | \
>> tee /dev/stderr | \
>> netcat -u 192.168.178.73 1079
>> 
>> =================================
>> 
>> This sends the planes info to Raspbery with IP address 192.168.178.73 that runs 'xgpspc' using netcat
>> 
>> netcat is cool for communication between ethernet connected stuff
>> Some have multitasking operating systems ..  I also use computers for several tasks. :-)
>> Easy with those cheap Raspberries.
>> 
>> For air pressure I use a chip that is mounted on a raspi 'hat' I build,
>> that hat also holds compass and attitude chips:
>>   https://panteltje.nl/panteltje/xgpspc/raspi_add_on_compass_accelerometer_pressure_GPS_interface_IMG_4949.JPG
>
>   Hmm ... interesting link. Don't NEED the positional
>   stuff for anything now, but temperature/pressure/RH
>   might be of value.
>
>   Yea, there ARE individual modules, SPI,I2C,1W, but an
>   all-in-one can save a lot of time.
>
>   Made a bunch of 1W temp sensors with the Dallas chip
>   embedded in an epoxy-filled little tube. You can kinda
>   buy those, now.
>
>   Note : you wrap the DS "chip" in metal-foil tape and
>   leave one end kinda free. Then put the thing into the
>   little metal tube and squeeze in the epoxy. The free
>   end will gravitate to the wall of the enclosing tube,
>   fair thermal bond.

Are you familiar with the LM35 temperature sensor chip?

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