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Re: Remove need for User & Password ?

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First post2013-04-17 12:52 +0000
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  Re: Remove need for User & Password ? J G Miller <miller@yoyo.ORG> - 2013-04-17 12:52 +0000
    Re: Remove need for User & Password ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2013-04-17 15:01 +0100
      Re: Remove need for User & Password ? Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2013-04-17 07:46 -0700
        Re: Remove need for User & Password ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2013-04-17 19:19 +0100
          Re: Remove need for User & Password ? Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2013-04-17 11:46 -0700
            Re: Remove need for User & Password ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2013-04-17 20:54 +0100
            Re: Remove need for User & Password ? cipher <cipher@nospamforme.org> - 2013-04-19 01:12 +0000
              Re: Remove need for User & Password ? mike <ham789@netzero.net> - 2013-04-18 20:42 -0700
                Re: Remove need for User & Password ? Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2013-04-18 23:54 -0400
        Re: Remove need for User & Password ? Octothorpe <Octothorpe@invalid.com> - 2013-04-17 18:04 -0400
      Re: Remove need for User & Password ? Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2013-04-17 18:02 +0100
    Re: Remove need for User & Password ? Aragorn <stryder@telenet.be.invalid> - 2013-04-17 16:55 +0200
      Re: Remove need for User & Password ? J G Miller <miller@yoyo.ORG> - 2013-04-17 15:52 +0000
        Re: Remove need for User & Password ? Aragorn <stryder@telenet.be.invalid> - 2013-04-17 18:09 +0200
          Re: Remove need for User & Password ? Keith Keller <kkeller-usenet@wombat.san-francisco.ca.us> - 2013-04-17 11:11 -0700
        Re: Remove need for User & Password ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2013-04-17 19:20 +0100
          Re: Remove need for User & Password ? J G Miller <miller@yoyo.ORG> - 2013-04-17 19:35 +0000
            Re: Remove need for User & Password ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2013-04-17 20:57 +0100
    Re: Remove need for User & Password ? Unknown <dog@gmail.com> - 2013-04-17 17:29 +0000
      Re: Remove need for User & Password ? J G Miller <miller@yoyo.ORG> - 2013-04-17 20:34 +0000
        Re: Remove need for User & Password ? Jasen Betts <jasen@xnet.co.nz> - 2013-04-18 08:46 +0000
          Re: Remove need for User & Password ? J G Miller <miller@yoyo.ORG> - 2013-04-18 10:30 +0000
            Re: Remove need for User & Password ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2013-04-18 11:50 +0100
              Re: Remove need for User & Password ? Jasen Betts <jasen@xnet.co.nz> - 2013-04-18 11:33 +0000
          Re: Remove need for User & Password ? Unknown <dog@gmail.com> - 2013-04-25 12:17 +0000
        Re: Remove need for User & Password ? Unknown <dog@gmail.com> - 2013-04-30 04:49 +0000

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#7860 — Re: Remove need for User & Password ?

FromJ G Miller <miller@yoyo.ORG>
Date2013-04-17 12:52 +0000
SubjectRe: Remove need for User & Password ?
Message-ID<kkm5uh$k4n$1@dont-email.me>
Mijnheer Glur,

Is there a good reason why today you are posting under the identity
of "Unknown <dog@gmail.com>" instead of the previous "Avoid9Pdf <Avoid9Pdf@gmail.com>"?

On Wednesday, April 17th, 2013, at 07:29:04h +0000, Chris Glur wrote:

> You are starting from the rPi and considering how far FORWARD you can go;
> whereas I'm starting from a goal

Surely you must agree that common sense suggests that one first
identifies the goal and its requirement and then buys the Ding Dong
which is most suited to achieve that goal instead of just buying a
Ding Dong from the medicine man and trying in vain to get it to do
a job for which is not intended? 

> and seeing how far I can simplify rPi's requirements to achieve the goal.

No you are not seeing that at all.

You are pestering other people to provide an answer to a problem which
you have artificially created and for a solution which you never
intend to implement.

-- 

   "Of all the white groups that are in South Africa, it is only the
    Afrikaners that are truly South Africans in the true sense of the word."

    -- President Jacob Gedleyihlekisa Zuma, polygamist

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#7861

FromThe Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid>
Date2013-04-17 15:01 +0100
Message-ID<kkm9vh$m8i$1@news.albasani.net>
In reply to#7860
On 17/04/13 13:52, J G Miller wrote:
> You are pestering other people  to provide an answer to a problem
 > which you have artificially created and for a solution which you
 > never intend to implement.

Standard wintroll tactic. Ask a stupid question  to which the answer is 
'windows' and then complain that no on on the linux group answers 'windows'.

e.g. What is the standard way to let light into a building?
(PS linux can't do that).


-- 
Ineptocracy

(in-ep-toc’-ra-cy) – a system of government where the least capable to 
lead are elected by the least capable of producing, and where the 
members of society least likely to sustain themselves or succeed, are 
rewarded with goods and services paid for by the confiscated wealth of a 
diminishing number of producers.

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#7862

FromBobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com>
Date2013-04-17 07:46 -0700
Message-ID<kkmcge$d6o$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#7861
On 04/17/2013 07:01 AM, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
> On 17/04/13 13:52, J G Miller wrote:
>> You are pestering other people  to provide an answer to a problem
>  > which you have artificially created and for a solution which you
>  > never intend to implement.
>
> Standard wintroll tactic. Ask a stupid question  to which the answer is
> 'windows' and then complain that no on on the linux group answers
> 'windows'.
>
> e.g. What is the standard way to let light into a building?
> (PS linux can't do that).
>
>

	Did NP actually write that?  I have at least half a dozen
windows open on my machine under KDE.
	Oh and no Windows or Linux  or Mac can draw the curtains
and let outside light into a building.  Not without a electo-mechanical
mechanism interfaced to the computer and to the curtains.
	All that X-posting looks like a Troll to me so I really doubt
this is the Natural Philosopher.  Maybe he got sucked into the troll's
lair and is being food?

	bliss

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#7870

FromThe Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid>
Date2013-04-17 19:19 +0100
Message-ID<kkmp3v$lv2$2@news.albasani.net>
In reply to#7862
On 17/04/13 15:46, Bobbie Sellers wrote:
> On 04/17/2013 07:01 AM, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>> On 17/04/13 13:52, J G Miller wrote:
>>> You are pestering other people  to provide an answer to a problem
>>  > which you have artificially created and for a solution which you
>>  > never intend to implement.
>>
>> Standard wintroll tactic. Ask a stupid question  to which the answer is
>> 'windows' and then complain that no on on the linux group answers
>> 'windows'.
>>
>> e.g. What is the standard way to let light into a building?
>> (PS linux can't do that).
>>
>>
>
>     Did NP actually write that?
I did.

>   I have at least half a dozen
> windows open on my machine under KDE.

ah, but they don let light in do they?

>     Oh and no Windows or Linux  or Mac can draw the curtains
> and let outside light into a building.  Not without a electo-mechanical
> mechanism interfaced to the computer and to the curtains.

Are you sure? I thought Windows did everything, including give you an 
instant orgasm every time you switched it on?

>     All that X-posting looks like a Troll to me so I really doubt
> this is the Natural Philosopher.  Maybe he got sucked into the troll's
> lair and is being food?
>

nah, just a wry comment which seems to have whooshed past you.

>     bliss


-- 
Ineptocracy

(in-ep-toc’-ra-cy) – a system of government where the least capable to lead are elected by the least capable of producing, and where the members of society least likely to sustain themselves or succeed, are rewarded with goods and services paid for by the confiscated wealth of a diminishing number of producers.

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#7876

FromBobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com>
Date2013-04-17 11:46 -0700
Message-ID<kkmqig$uhl$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#7870
On 04/17/2013 11:19 AM, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
> On 17/04/13 15:46, Bobbie Sellers wrote:
>> On 04/17/2013 07:01 AM, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>>> On 17/04/13 13:52, J G Miller wrote:
>>>> You are pestering other people  to provide an answer to a problem
>>>  > which you have artificially created and for a solution which you
>>>  > never intend to implement.
>>>
>>> Standard wintroll tactic. Ask a stupid question  to which the answer is
>>> 'windows' and then complain that no on on the linux group answers
>>> 'windows'.
>>>
>>> e.g. What is the standard way to let light into a building?
>>> (PS linux can't do that).
>>>
>>>
>>
>>     Did NP actually write that?
> I did.
>
>>   I have at least half a dozen
>> windows open on my machine under KDE.
>
> ah, but they don let light in do they?
	As a matter of fact they let out enough light that I have
to lock the screen at night.
>
>>     Oh and no Windows or Linux  or Mac can draw the curtains
>> and let outside light into a building.  Not without a electo-mechanical
>> mechanism interfaced to the computer and to the curtains.
>
> Are you sure? I thought Windows did everything, including give you an
> instant orgasm every time you switched it on?
	
	Well XP and Vista never did that for me.  I get a little thrill
when I boot up Linux and it is still working.
>
>>     All that X-posting looks like a Troll to me so I really doubt
>> this is the Natural Philosopher.  Maybe he got sucked into the troll's
>> lair and is being food?
>>
>
> nah, just a wry comment which seems to have whooshed past you.
>
>>     bliss

	You are food, and just don't know it.
	As for wry comments getting past me maybe I was moving
too fast.  Wry is hard to do in this world and on Usenet harder.

	G'day.
	bliss

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#7881

FromThe Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid>
Date2013-04-17 20:54 +0100
Message-ID<kkmulr$2il$2@news.albasani.net>
In reply to#7876
On 17/04/13 19:46, Bobbie Sellers wrote:
> On 04/17/2013 11:19 AM, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>> On 17/04/13 15:46, Bobbie Sellers wrote:
>>> On 04/17/2013 07:01 AM, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>>>> On 17/04/13 13:52, J G Miller wrote:
>>>>> You are pestering other people  to provide an answer to a problem
>>>>  > which you have artificially created and for a solution which you
>>>>  > never intend to implement.
>>>>
>>>> Standard wintroll tactic. Ask a stupid question  to which the 
>>>> answer is
>>>> 'windows' and then complain that no on on the linux group answers
>>>> 'windows'.
>>>>
>>>> e.g. What is the standard way to let light into a building?
>>>> (PS linux can't do that).
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>     Did NP actually write that?
>> I did.
>>
>>>   I have at least half a dozen
>>> windows open on my machine under KDE.
>>
>> ah, but they don let light in do they?
>     As a matter of fact they let out enough light that I have
> to lock the screen at night.
IN is not the same as OUT

>>
>>>     Oh and no Windows or Linux  or Mac can draw the curtains
>>> and let outside light into a building.  Not without a electo-mechanical
>>> mechanism interfaced to the computer and to the curtains.
>>
>> Are you sure? I thought Windows did everything, including give you an
>> instant orgasm every time you switched it on?
>
>     Well XP and Vista never did that for me.  I get a little thrill
> when I boot up Linux and it is still working.

i tend to heave a sigh of relief, because I only reboot after a kernel 
upgrade

>>
>>>     All that X-posting looks like a Troll to me so I really doubt
>>> this is the Natural Philosopher.  Maybe he got sucked into the troll's
>>> lair and is being food?
>>>
>>
>> nah, just a wry comment which seems to have whooshed past you.
>>
>>>     bliss
>
>     You are food, and just don't know it.

sometimes willing food. Baiting trolls has two meanings


>     As for wry comments getting past me maybe I was moving
> too fast.  Wry is hard to do in this world and on Usenet harder.
>
>     G'day.
>     bliss


-- 
Ineptocracy

(in-ep-toc’-ra-cy) – a system of government where the least capable to lead are elected by the least capable of producing, and where the members of society least likely to sustain themselves or succeed, are rewarded with goods and services paid for by the confiscated wealth of a diminishing number of producers.

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#7908

Fromcipher <cipher@nospamforme.org>
Date2013-04-19 01:12 +0000
Message-ID<6gmr6u.agu.17.3@news.alt.net>
In reply to#7876
On Wed, 17 Apr 2013 11:46:57 -0700, Bobbie Sellers Inscribed upon the
Golden Tablets of Usenet thusly:

> On 04/17/2013 11:19 AM, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>> On 17/04/13 15:46, Bobbie Sellers wrote:
>>> On 04/17/2013 07:01 AM, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>>>> On 17/04/13 13:52, J G Miller wrote:
>>>>> You are pestering other people  to provide an answer to a problem
>>>>  > which you have artificially created and for a solution which you
>>>>  > never intend to implement.
>>>>
>>>> Standard wintroll tactic. Ask a stupid question  to which the answer
>>>> is 'windows' and then complain that no on on the linux group answers
>>>> 'windows'.
>>>>
>>>> e.g. What is the standard way to let light into a building?
>>>> (PS linux can't do that).
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>     Did NP actually write that?
>> I did.
>>
>>>   I have at least half a dozen
>>> windows open on my machine under KDE.
>>
>> ah, but they don let light in do they?
> 	As a matter of fact they let out enough light that I have
> to lock the screen at night.
>>
>>>     Oh and no Windows or Linux  or Mac can draw the curtains
>>> and let outside light into a building.  Not without a
>>> electo-mechanical mechanism interfaced to the computer and to the
>>> curtains.
>>
>> Are you sure? I thought Windows did everything, including give you an
>> instant orgasm every time you switched it on?
> 	
> 	Well XP and Vista never did that for me.  I get a little thrill
> when I boot up Linux and it is still working.
>>
>>>     All that X-posting looks like a Troll to me so I really doubt
>>> this is the Natural Philosopher.  Maybe he got sucked into the troll's
>>> lair and is being food?
>>>
>>>
>> nah, just a wry comment which seems to have whooshed past you.
>>
>>>     bliss
> 
> 	You are food, and just don't know it.
> 	As for wry comments getting past me maybe I was moving
> too fast.  Wry is hard to do in this world and on Usenet harder.

It's OK not to get everything, to sometimes miss a point.

Happens to us all sometimes.  Better to admit it, have a chuckle and move 
on...


> 	G'day.
> 	bliss





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#7909

Frommike <ham789@netzero.net>
Date2013-04-18 20:42 -0700
Message-ID<kkqea5$mpj$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#7908
On 4/18/2013 6:12 PM, cipher wrote:

>>> Are you sure? I thought Windows did everything, including give you an
>>> instant orgasm every time you switched it on?

I find that hard to believe.
If that program existed, it would
never make it out of 'bater test.

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#7910

FromMichael Black <et472@ncf.ca>
Date2013-04-18 23:54 -0400
Message-ID<alpine.LNX.2.02.1304182353290.28839@darkstar.example.org>
In reply to#7909
On Thu, 18 Apr 2013, mike wrote:

> On 4/18/2013 6:12 PM, cipher wrote:
>
>>>> Are you sure? I thought Windows did everything, including give you an
>>>> instant orgasm every time you switched it on?
>
> I find that hard to believe.
> If that program existed, it would
> never make it out of 'bater test.
>
It's all in the mind.  The orgasm comes from being part of the mass that 
uses Windows.

   Michael

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#7890

FromOctothorpe <Octothorpe@invalid.com>
Date2013-04-17 18:04 -0400
Message-ID<uri34a-eti.ln1@crazy-horse.bildanet.com>
In reply to#7862
On Wed, 17 Apr 2013 07:46:55 -0700, Bobbie Sellers wrote:

> On 04/17/2013 07:01 AM, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>> On 17/04/13 13:52, J G Miller wrote:
>>> You are pestering other people  to provide an answer to a problem
>>  > which you have artificially created and for a solution which you
>>  > never intend to implement.
>>
>> Standard wintroll tactic. Ask a stupid question  to which the answer is
>> 'windows' and then complain that no on on the linux group answers
>> 'windows'.
>>
>> e.g. What is the standard way to let light into a building?
>> (PS linux can't do that).
>>
>>
>>
> 	Did NP actually write that?  I have at least half a dozen
> windows open on my machine under KDE.
> 	Oh and no Windows or Linux  or Mac can draw the curtains
> and let outside light into a building. 


Storm Linux, Close the windows Storm is coming......

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#7866

FromJoe <joe@jretrading.com>
Date2013-04-17 18:02 +0100
Message-ID<20130417180259.051846f3@jretrading.com>
In reply to#7861
On Wed, 17 Apr 2013 15:01:20 +0100
The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:

> On 17/04/13 13:52, J G Miller wrote:
> > You are pestering other people  to provide an answer to a problem
>  > which you have artificially created and for a solution which you
>  > never intend to implement.
> 
> Standard wintroll tactic. Ask a stupid question  to which the answer
> is 'windows' and then complain that no on on the linux group answers
> 'windows'.
> 

One would be hard put to find any version of Windows which would run on
a Pi. It's ARM, for a start, and I cannot imagine Win 8 RT or whatever
it's currently called running off an SD card in 512M of RAM. XP just
about runs comfortably in that.

-- 
Joe

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#7863

FromAragorn <stryder@telenet.be.invalid>
Date2013-04-17 16:55 +0200
Message-ID<kkmcvo$d3p$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#7860
On Wednesday 17 April 2013 14:52, J G Miller conveyed the following to 
comp.os.linux.hardware...

> Mijnheer Glur,
  ^^^^^^^^

That is Dutch, J.G., not Afrikaans. ;-)

> Is there a good reason why today you are posting under the identity
> of "Unknown <dog@gmail.com>" instead of the previous "Avoid9Pdf
> <Avoid9Pdf@gmail.com>"?

Chris Glur regularly changes his sender address, presumably so as to 
escape killfile entries.

> You are pestering other people to provide an answer to a problem which
> you have artificially created and for a solution which you never
> intend to implement.

And he has been doing this repeatedly for several years already, each 
time biting the hands that feed him and criticizing or whining about 
things which he doesn't understand.  And that is exactly /why/ Chris 
Glur resides in so many killfiles. 

-- 
= Aragorn =
  GNU/Linux user #223157 - http://www.linuxcounter.net

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#7864

FromJ G Miller <miller@yoyo.ORG>
Date2013-04-17 15:52 +0000
Message-ID<kkmggp$3ft$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#7863
Op woensdag, 17 april, 2013, om 16:55:33u +0200, schreef Aragorn:

> On Wednesday 17 April 2013 14:52, J G Miller conveyed the following to 
> comp.os.linux.hardware...
> 
>> Mijnheer Glur,
>   ^^^^^^^^
> 
> That is Dutch, J.G., not Afrikaans. ;-)

Eek, I have been rumbled!

So what would one say/write in Afrikaans for "Mijnheer"?

According to Google Translate (which is obviously not perfect)
translating from Dutch "Mijnheer" to Afrikaans gives the same word.

Perhaps, as a mark of respect, he should be addressed as Baas Chris?

> Chris Glur regularly changes his sender address, presumably so as to 
> escape killfile entries.

And can you blame him for doing that?  ;)

> And he has been doing this repeatedly for several years already, each 
> time biting the hands that feed him and criticizing or whining about 
> things which he doesn't understand.

The thing is though, if you look back at the postings from say 10 years
ago in 2003, made under the name of Chris Glur, they were very straight
forward and up front and not of the trolling variety.  And Chris Glur
has made contributions to free software projects in the distant past.

So I am not 100% convinced that Chris Glur is posting with an intent of
trolling although it does *appear* to be of the order of 60%-70% that
that is the case.

But appearance are sometimes deceptive and as they say
"the owls are not what they seem." (And just to avoid giving
any wrong impression I have never watched that TV show except
for the opening credits.)

Of course there is always the possibility of identity theft and there
is a malicious troll who has assumed the identity of Chris Glur for
the purpose of denigrating his name?

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#7865

FromAragorn <stryder@telenet.be.invalid>
Date2013-04-17 18:09 +0200
Message-ID<kkmhae$i3p$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#7864
[Follow-up set to alt.os.linux.debian]

On Wednesday 17 April 2013 17:52, J G Miller conveyed the following to 
comp.os.linux.hardware...

> Op woensdag, 17 april, 2013, om 16:55:33u +0200, schreef Aragorn:
> 
>> On Wednesday 17 April 2013 14:52, J G Miller conveyed the following
>> to comp.os.linux.hardware...
>> 
>>> Mijnheer Glur,
>>   ^^^^^^^^
>> 
>> That is Dutch, J.G., not Afrikaans. ;-)
> 
> Eek, I have been rumbled!
> 
> So what would one say/write in Afrikaans for "Mijnheer"?
> 
> According to Google Translate (which is obviously not perfect)
> translating from Dutch "Mijnheer" to Afrikaans gives the same word.

Well, it is possible, but the compound vowel "ij" is not normally used 
in Afrikaans and is most commonly substituted by "y", which is 
historically more correct and is pronounced the same way.

In Dutch, one can also say "meneer" instead of "mijnheer", and I presume 
that the word also exists in Afrikaans.  Mind you, I do speak a fair 
amount of Afrikaans, but it is not my native tongue either and so I 
don't know everything either. ;-)

> Perhaps, as a mark of respect, he should be addressed as Baas Chris?

Heh, that's a good one. :p

>> Chris Glur regularly changes his sender address, presumably so as to
>> escape killfile entries.
> 
> And can you blame him for doing that?  ;)

It is a form of nymshifting, and nymshifting in order to elude 
killfilters is trollish behavior.

>> And he has been doing this repeatedly for several years already, each
>> time biting the hands that feed him and criticizing or whining about
>> things which he doesn't understand.
> 
> The thing is though, if you look back at the postings from say 10
> years ago in 2003, made under the name of Chris Glur, they were very
> straight forward and up front and not of the trolling variety.  And
> Chris Glur has made contributions to free software projects in the
> distant past.

I am aware of that, yes, even if only because that is what I've seen 
other people state about him.

> So I am not 100% convinced that Chris Glur is posting with an intent
> of trolling although it does *appear* to be of the order of 60%-70%
> that that is the case.

I don't think it would be his _intent_ to troll, but in the end, that 
/is/ what he's doing.

> Of course there is always the possibility of identity theft and there
> is a malicious troll who has assumed the identity of Chris Glur for
> the purpose of denigrating his name?

That is possible.  However, my personal take on this is that Chris Glur 
has some serious personality issues.  Maybe he has not always been like 
this, and maybe there is a sound medical reason for his change in 
behavior and perception.  I don't know.

All I see is the end result, which is that Chris Glur is a dense, 
ungrateful and at times very rude person who repeatedly changes his 
posting identity via throwaway e-mail addresses because he knows he gets 
killfiled.

-- 
= Aragorn =
  GNU/Linux user #223157 - http://www.linuxcounter.net

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#7868

FromKeith Keller <kkeller-usenet@wombat.san-francisco.ca.us>
Date2013-04-17 11:11 -0700
Message-ID<78534ax7eb.ln2@goaway.wombat.san-francisco.ca.us>
In reply to#7865
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On 2013-04-17, Aragorn <stryder@telenet.be.invalid> wrote:
>
> All I see is the end result, which is that Chris Glur is a dense, 
> ungrateful and at times very rude person who repeatedly changes his 
> posting identity via throwaway e-mail addresses because he knows he gets 
> killfiled.

This is a very astute summary of the OP's posting habits.  I hope that
all regular readers of all four newsgroups will take that into
consideration when posting a response to him.

--keith

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#7871

FromThe Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid>
Date2013-04-17 19:20 +0100
Message-ID<kkmp62$lv2$3@news.albasani.net>
In reply to#7864
On 17/04/13 16:52, J G Miller wrote:
> Op woensdag, 17 april, 2013, om 16:55:33u +0200, schreef Aragorn:
>
>> On Wednesday 17 April 2013 14:52, J G Miller conveyed the following to
>> comp.os.linux.hardware...
>>
>>> Mijnheer Glur,
>>    ^^^^^^^^
>>
>> That is Dutch, J.G., not Afrikaans. ;-)
> Eek, I have been rumbled!
>
> So what would one say/write in Afrikaans for "Mijnheer"?
Mynheer IIRC.

> According to Google Translate (which is obviously not perfect)
> translating from Dutch "Mijnheer" to Afrikaans gives the same word.
>
> Perhaps, as a mark of respect, he should be addressed as Baas Chris?
Durs Chirs.

>> Chris Glur regularly changes his sender address, presumably so as to
>> escape killfile entries.
> And can you blame him for doing that?  ;)
>
>> And he has been doing this repeatedly for several years already, each
>> time biting the hands that feed him and criticizing or whining about
>> things which he doesn't understand.
> The thing is though, if you look back at the postings from say 10 years
> ago in 2003, made under the name of Chris Glur, they were very straight
> forward and up front and not of the trolling variety.  And Chris Glur
> has made contributions to free software projects in the distant past.
>
> So I am not 100% convinced that Chris Glur is posting with an intent of
> trolling although it does *appear* to be of the order of 60%-70% that
> that is the case.
>
> But appearance are sometimes deceptive and as they say
> "the owls are not what they seem." (And just to avoid giving
> any wrong impression I have never watched that TV show except
> for the opening credits.)
>
> Of course there is always the possibility of identity theft and there
> is a malicious troll who has assumed the identity of Chris Glur for
> the purpose of denigrating his name?


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#7880

FromJ G Miller <miller@yoyo.ORG>
Date2013-04-17 19:35 +0000
Message-ID<kkmtis$b9g$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#7871
On Wednesday, April 17th, 2013, at 19:20:51h +0100,
The Natural Philosopher wrote:

> Mynheer IIRC.

It seems that Google Translate for Afrikaans is just not up to standard
because it does not recognize that spelling, but Google ZA search
finds lots of instances of that.

> Durs Chirs.

Erm?  I cannot find anything relevant with Google ZA for the word "durs".
The only meaning which seems to have some connection with "durs" is hard???

Can you explain the meaning then?

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#7882

FromThe Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid>
Date2013-04-17 20:57 +0100
Message-ID<kkmus1$3rs$1@news.albasani.net>
In reply to#7880
On 17/04/13 20:35, J G Miller wrote:
> On Wednesday, April 17th, 2013, at 19:20:51h +0100,
> The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>
>> Mynheer IIRC.
> It seems that Google Translate for Afrikaans is just not up to standard
> because it does not recognize that spelling, but Google ZA search
> finds lots of instances of that.
>
>> Durs Chirs.
> Erm?  I cannot find anything relevant with Google ZA for the word "durs".
> The only meaning which seems to have some connection with "durs" is hard???
>
> Can you explain the meaning then?
sorry. I know how the words sounds, but no one was rude enough to spell 
it out for me on my sojourn there.

Ah google has it. Doos,. Chris Doos.


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#7867

FromUnknown <dog@gmail.com>
Date2013-04-17 17:29 +0000
Message-ID<kkmm68$r7g$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#7860
On Wed, 17 Apr 2013 12:52:33 +0000, J G Miller wrote:

> Mijnheer Glur,
> 
> Is there a good reason why today you are posting under the identity of
> "Unknown <dog@gmail.com>" instead of the previous "Avoid9Pdf
> <Avoid9Pdf@gmail.com>"?
> 
> On Wednesday, April 17th, 2013, at 07:29:04h +0000, Chris Glur wrote:
> 
>> You are starting from the rPi and considering how far FORWARD you can
>> go; whereas I'm starting from a goal
> 
> Surely you must agree that common sense suggests that one first
> identifies the goal and its requirement and then buys the Ding Dong
> which is most suited to achieve that goal instead of just buying a Ding
> Dong from the medicine man and trying in vain to get it to do a job for
> which is not intended?
> 
>> and seeing how far I can simplify rPi's requirements to achieve the
>> goal.
> 
> No you are not seeing that at all.
> 
> You are pestering other people to provide an answer to a problem which
> you have artificially created and for a solution which you never intend
> to implement.

OK, see if you kiddies can follow this:
 rPi is a minimalist/credit-card-sized computer;
 if you were a racing-cycle enthusiast you'd be interested in some
    extreme criteria, which the normal obsese Californian would consider
    'you never intend to implement';
 AFAIK the need to login, is the bottleneck, which prevents the rpi from
  being used without a keyboard. Once I've logged in, I can design a setup
   to run via mouse only.
 Obviously there are MANY situations where some people would want to just
 have a rPi, mouse, mini-PSU in their pocket, and be just able to plug the
  RCA wire into the PAL-TV and fly.

BTW do you kiddies realise that going-in-foot-ball-herds, is what prevents
you from being able to think out of the box? Which is why the 
herd-mentality promoted by FB/twitter is going to give bad results for the
future.

And since, like pre-adolescent girlies, you are all obsesed with names,
and personalities, why don't you move to the celebrities and social fora
and leave this for the scientists & engineers.

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#7884

FromJ G Miller <miller@yoyo.ORG>
Date2013-04-17 20:34 +0000
Message-ID<kkn106$b9g$4@dont-email.me>
In reply to#7867
On Wednesday, April 17th, 2013, at 17:29:46h +0000,
Baas Chris Glur chided:

> OK, see if you kiddies can follow this:

Well we may have to think very hard and it might be quite tiring,
but here goes ...

>  rPi is a minimalist/credit-card-sized computer;

Well yes, any fule kno that.

>  if you were a racing-cycle enthusiast you'd be interested in some
>  extreme criteria

You mean like Lance Armstrong?

>  which the normal obsese Californian

Yes you are correct -- 61,4% of Californians are obese according to

   <http://www.belly-fat-health-news.com/obesity-in-California.html>

> would consider 'you never intend to implement';

How many obese Californians have bought a rPi?

>  AFAIK 

Are you here to continue in your "as far as I know" ignorance,
or do you want to learn?

> the need to login is the bottleneck

No it is not.

With most display managers it is very easy to configure them to use
an autologin mode to a predefined userid, so there is no need to
enter any password.

If you want autologin to a particular account on a virtual console
TTY, this is also simple to achieve by replacing the getty with mingetty
and configuring it for autologin.

See the details at

  <http://linux.koolsolutions.COM/2009/04/30/autologin-linux-console-mode/>


But in another thread on the same topic in comp.os.linux.misc and
comp.os.linux.hardware, John Hasler has provided you with an even
simpler rPi specific method way of doing this without having to
install a different getty, as explained at

    <http://elinux.ORG/RPi_Debian_Auto_Login>

But do you honestly want an answer to your question, or now having
been presented with an answer, are you going to resort to an
irrational outburst of having to get a new Ding Dong?

> which prevents the rpi from being used without a keyboard.

No it does not.

People have been using rPi as a media center with XBMC with autologin
and no keyboard and no mouse for some time now, details at

   <http://wiki.xbmc.org/index.php?title=Raspberry_Pi>

   <http://lifehacker.com/5929913/build-a-xbmc-media-center-with-a-35-raspberry-pi>

QUOTE

   A remote control:

   I you don't want to use a mouse and keyboard to control
   your media center once its set up, you'll need a remote. 

UNQUOTE

But now when faced with real life accomplishments of other people doing
what you claim you are trying to do, are you now going to ignore the
facts and repost the same questions again in a slightly different form
in other newsgroups in a few days to a week's time?

> BTW do you kiddies realise that going-in-foot-ball-herds, is what
> prevents you from being able to think out of the box?

Yes, but herds of warthogs and wildebeest are even worse though.

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