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| Started by | c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> |
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| First post | 2026-08-18 01:44 -0400 |
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What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-18 01:44 -0400
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-18 01:59 -0400
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-18 06:05 +0000
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? vallor <vallor@vallor.earth> - 2026-08-18 08:10 +0000
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-08-18 11:33 +0100
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-18 22:16 -0400
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-19 03:32 +0000
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-18 22:07 -0400
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-19 03:42 +0000
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-19 02:14 -0400
| From | c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> |
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| Date | 2026-08-18 01:44 -0400 |
| Subject | What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? |
| Message-ID | <VKycndkZ29r7bB73nZ2dnZfqnPqdnZ2d@giganews.com> |
Tried FFox and Chromium the past few days. The site is ULTRA-slow, useless.
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| From | c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> |
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| Date | 2026-08-18 01:59 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <Ns6cnYYA9OnkaR73nZ2dnZfqn_GdnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #90034 |
On 8/18/26 01:44, c186282 wrote: > Tried FFox and Chromium the past few > days. The site is ULTRA-slow, useless. > Note : DID, finally, get it to work - but had to wait like 10 minutes for the download page to appear. No pixie girl - so downloaded.
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2026-08-18 06:05 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <neib22Fpk4lU48@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #90034 |
On Tue, 18 Aug 2026 01:44:51 -0400, c186282 wrote: > Tried FFox and Chromium the past few days. The site is ULTRA-slow, > useless. Brave browser. Went to the site, paged through the instructions, went to the Cinnamon download, selected the Clarkson mirror, and the download started immediately. Canceled the download. Like I've said before you have a lot more problems than the average bear.
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| From | vallor <vallor@vallor.earth> |
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| Date | 2026-08-18 08:10 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <1161423$1kgeu$3@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #90039 |
At 18 Aug 2026 06:05:55 GMT, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote: > On Tue, 18 Aug 2026 01:44:51 -0400, c186282 wrote: > > > Tried FFox and Chromium the past few days. The site is ULTRA-slow, > > useless. > > Brave browser. Went to the site, paged through the instructions, went to > the Cinnamon download, selected the Clarkson mirror, and the download > started immediately. Canceled the download. > > Like I've said before you have a lot more problems than the average bear. Well, his clock is off -- probably not enough to effect TLS, but figuring that out is above my current paygrade. Dear Mr. c-cipher, Please run: $ ntpdate -q time.nist.gov And post what you see. Mine says: 2026-08-18 01:06:57.105142 (-0700) +0.000209 +/- 0.016759 time.nist.gov 132.163.96.6 s1 no-leap -- -v ASUS TUF DASH F15 x86_64 Mem: 15.9G OS: Linux 7.0.0-28-generic D: Mint 22.3 DE: Xfce 4.18 (X11) NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060 Mobile (6G) 595.84 "Life is a series of very rude awakenings."
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| From | Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> |
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| Date | 2026-08-18 11:33 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <neiql6FbfkkU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #90045 |
vallor wrote: > Dear Mr. c-cipher Cipher? I assumed it was a velocity ...
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| From | c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> |
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| Date | 2026-08-18 22:16 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <_46cnQgXs593jBj3nZ2dnZfqn_SdnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #90045 |
On 8/18/26 04:10, vallor wrote: > At 18 Aug 2026 06:05:55 GMT, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote: > >> On Tue, 18 Aug 2026 01:44:51 -0400, c186282 wrote: >> >>> Tried FFox and Chromium the past few days. The site is ULTRA-slow, >>> useless. >> >> Brave browser. Went to the site, paged through the instructions, went to >> the Cinnamon download, selected the Clarkson mirror, and the download >> started immediately. Canceled the download. >> >> Like I've said before you have a lot more problems than the average bear. > > Well, his clock is off -- probably not enough to effect TLS, but > figuring that out is above my current paygrade. > > Dear Mr. c-cipher, > > Please run: > > $ ntpdate -q time.nist.gov > > And post what you see. Mine says: > > 2026-08-18 01:06:57.105142 (-0700) +0.000209 +/- 0.016759 time.nist.gov 132.163.96.6 s1 no-leap Checked, MY clock is dead on. Anyway, they took away my hardwire and gave me a 5G where the antenna is many miles away. Weak signal almost always, perhaps packet errors too. But why the Mint site so notably ??? Weirdness spanned DAYS too. Anyway, LONG wait, it did finally come up and got my XFCE Mint.
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2026-08-19 03:32 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <nekmejFe0jfU9@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #90085 |
On Tue, 18 Aug 2026 22:16:09 -0400, c186282 wrote: > Anyway, they took away my hardwire and gave me a 5G where the antenna > is many miles away. > Weak signal almost always, perhaps packet errors too. I had a Verizon MiFi for years and it served me well but I think the closest tower is 6 miles away. Youtube, streaming Netflix, and so forth wasn't a problem but I rarely saw 20 Mbis. StarLink is a reliable 100 Mbis and makes the world of difference for updates, downloading isos, and so forth. It's also $40 / month cheaper.
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| From | c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> |
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| Date | 2026-08-18 22:07 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <_46cnQkXs59Hkhj3nZ2dnZfqn_SdnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #90039 |
On 8/18/26 02:05, rbowman wrote: > On Tue, 18 Aug 2026 01:44:51 -0400, c186282 wrote: > >> Tried FFox and Chromium the past few days. The site is ULTRA-slow, >> useless. > > Brave browser. Went to the site, paged through the instructions, went to > the Cinnamon download, selected the Clarkson mirror, and the download > started immediately. Canceled the download. > > Like I've said before you have a lot more problems than the average bear. It's true. In PART it's because I'm stuck with a somewhat balky 5G net connection. At times the signal strength goes to about naught, other times weird delays in transmission - packet errors ? It's why I was wondering about StarLink a little while back. Alas seems you need a pretty clear northeast 'view' from where I am - and I don't HAVE one ... big trees most everywhere. I'd have to run a 100' cable out under the yard to get a good clear point. StarLink MAY still be a viable "backup" however. Even a half-assed signal is better than none at all. Anyway, after a LONG wait, finally did get the download page to come up. Grabbed the latest XFCE version. Good enough.
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2026-08-19 03:42 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <nekn1aFe0jfU10@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #90083 |
On Tue, 18 Aug 2026 22:07:20 -0400, c186282 wrote: > It's why I was wondering about StarLink a little while back. Alas > seems you need a pretty clear northeast 'view' from where I am - and > I don't HAVE one ... big trees most everywhere. I'd have to run a > 100' cable out under the yard to get a good clear point. I was concerned about the tree but it's to the west and the receiver is oriented to 5 degrees. You can download the app for free to evaluate the site. You point the phone at the sky and rotate through 360. I was skeptical about the services using geosynchronous sats, the footprint, and how many subscribers would be in the beam. The Leos, and there are a lot of them, solve that problem. I am a bit curious how it works. Back in the day the ham sats were store and forwards and the window was only a few minutes. Of course there was only the one and not over 1000.
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| From | c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> |
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| Date | 2026-08-19 02:14 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <KnydnRY2DeMh1Bj3nZ2dnZfqn_cAAAAA@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #90092 |
On 8/18/26 23:42, rbowman wrote: > On Tue, 18 Aug 2026 22:07:20 -0400, c186282 wrote: > >> It's why I was wondering about StarLink a little while back. Alas >> seems you need a pretty clear northeast 'view' from where I am - and >> I don't HAVE one ... big trees most everywhere. I'd have to run a >> 100' cable out under the yard to get a good clear point. > > I was concerned about the tree but it's to the west and the receiver is > oriented to 5 degrees. You can download the app for free to evaluate the > site. You point the phone at the sky and rotate through 360. I don't have the kind of phone that'll run "apps". > I was skeptical about the services using geosynchronous sats, the > footprint, and how many subscribers would be in the beam. The Leos, and > there are a lot of them, solve that problem. LONG back I put my office on geo-sync sat internet. It worked, and - sometimes - was faster than our old shotgunned dial-ups. Alas as web pages quickly became full of SHIT ... the signals bouncing 33,000 miles up and back and up and back REALLY dragged down the connection. Then the phone offered DSL and we used that for a long time. Sorry, even the speed of light is NOT nearly fast enough these days. StarLink kinda CHEATS - very low orbits and clever data-routing tricks. > I am a bit curious how it works. Back in the day the ham sats were store > and forwards and the window was only a few minutes. Of course there was > only the one and not over 1000. Well, StarLink is "in the works" even now. I think Musk still wants at least ten times as many sats, and the next-gen sats handle many more channels. A sort of extravagant system, but it's proven very useful and resistant to sabotage. ANYway, my geography is NOT so great for StarLink. It'd probably work but I'd never get the promised data speed. BIG trees everywhere. Also, their MOUNTING schemes ... searched Amazon and there was NOTHING really suitable for my house and likely weather conditions. I'd need to fab a hardwood frame and a 4-point mount to a concrete wall. Ordinary T-storm came through today ... gusts to maybe 60mph. It can get worse, much worse.
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